IRC log for #koha, 2018-10-04

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00:03 mtompset YAY! It's signed off now, alexbuckley
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03:20 alexbuckley awesome mtompset
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03:54 mtompset Have a great day (24 hour period), #koha alexbuckley. :)
03:54 alexbuckley you too mtompet :)
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06:11 gveranis hi koha
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06:37 reiveune hello
06:37 wahanui que tal, reiveune
06:40 gveranis just to mention that I test the patch for bug 19687 and it works , on koha 18.05.04
06:40 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=19687 normal, P3, ---, koha-bugs, Needs Signoff , Recent upgrade to bulkmarcimport started to fail
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06:48 alex_a bonjour
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07:09 * andreashm waves
07:10 * cait waves
07:21 cait does someone remember the table name for news?
07:22 cait found it - opac news
07:22 cait opac_news
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08:35 fridolin hi
08:35 wahanui what's up, fridolin
08:35 fridolin nothing new under the sun wahanui
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09:04 paxed FFS. pasting into text fields should be forbidden
09:05 paxed i just weird error due to tab chars in text fields in the database
09:05 paxed just love weird errors*
09:06 * andreashm loves to paste into text fields. =P
09:06 andreashm *runs and hides*
09:06 paxed or rather, koha needs better input validation.
09:18 andreashm that would make sense
09:33 ashimema too early for oleonard isn't it
09:33 ashimema cait about?
09:34 ashimema bug 20554 - doesn't look like the screenshots when applied for me at the moment.. wondering if it's something I've done or not done.. or if it's a rebasing error crept in
09:34 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=20554 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, claire_gravely, Passed QA , New OPAC CSS
09:43 cait hm don't knwo and calire is not here this week
09:43 cait maybe oleonard can help
09:44 ashimema he rebased it for me yesterday as it didn't apply
09:44 ashimema i'll try catching him later when he comes online
09:44 cait did yourun the yarn bulid?
09:44 ashimema yup
09:44 cait with the opac flag?
09:44 ashimema yup
09:44 ashimema and the display did change.. but it looked really odd.. noth like the screenshots
09:45 ashimema a bit of a mess in fact
09:45 cait most likely a rebase issue
09:45 cait maybe comment on the bug too?
09:45 ashimema okies
09:45 ashimema will do
09:47 cait thx for working on it!
09:47 cait ashimema++
09:47 ashimema no worries.. well it's already passed qa.. just not in master yet ;)
09:48 ashimema I just wanted to show it off a bit to collegues.. I like it :)
09:48 cait it's an improvement for sure :)
09:50 cait but we hadn't touched the templates/css in a while now
09:50 ashimema indeed
09:51 ashimema I like subtle continual improvement.. to me this fits that bill perfectly.. it's certainly a nice improvement and has sparked interest in further improvements to come :)
10:45 cait @wunder Konstanz
10:45 huginn cait: Konstanz, Germany :: Clear :: 61F/16C | Wind Chill: 61F/16C | Thursday: Sunny. High 67F. Winds ENE at 5 to 10 mph. Thursday Night: A clear sky. Low 44F. Winds NNE at 5 to 10 mph.
10:45 * cait ran out of wool for her current project :(
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11:37 marcelr hi #koha
11:38 josef_moravec1 hi marcelr
11:38 marcelr thx josef_moravec1++ # QA
11:38 oleonard Hi #koha
11:39 kidclamp Hi oleonard
11:39 wahanui hi oleopard
11:39 marcelr hi oleonard kidclamp
11:39 josef_moravec1 marcelr: not at all;)
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11:40 cait severine++ # all the different strange behaviours :)
11:41 severine :D cait
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11:45 kidclamp hi marcelr
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11:48 twod Hi guys!
11:48 cait hi ere and twod
11:49 cait ere: i really regret that burger instead of cafe yumm.... still thinking about the edamame bowl
11:49 twod hi i had a question regarding Koha
11:49 ere Hi cait!
11:49 cait just ask, people read here, but sometimes it takes a bit as most are working
11:50 ere cait: Oh :/ Had I known I would have taken a bowl for you.. I thought the burger might have been a decent option.
11:50 cait it was good, but not nearly as memorable :)
11:50 twod i've installed dev koha on ubuntu via git and everything went fine untill the web installation part. I've selected wrong region (i needed Europe but selected for USA) is there any way to "reset" the web installaiton?
11:51 ere cait: that's probably because the bowl was so yummy
11:51 cait have you worked with your konsta installation yet?
11:51 cait konsta= koha
11:51 cait my fingers have some strange ideas today
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11:52 twod i mean i installed it, now i can connect to my localhost and use it
11:55 cait yes, but you havend entered any data yet apart from the web isntaller?
11:57 cait i have a meeting in 4 minutes, but i woudl suggest to drop the database and start over in this case... maybe you could also remove the instance and set it up again
11:57 cait someone else might be able to help, but dropping the db and recreating it will trigger the web installer again
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12:01 twod no, no i havent, since, for some reason, it started to run super slowly (it might be becouse i selected every single parameter wrong)
12:02 twod hmm is this a 100% solution?
12:02 twod i have to stop all proceses, drop database, create new database with the ame name
12:02 twod ?
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12:26 oleonard twod: Yes, dropping and re-creating the database will allow you to run through the web installer again.
12:26 oleonard twod: Although I'm not sure what you mean by selecting the wrong region. Do you mean the MARC version?
12:26 twod yes excatly
12:26 ashimema oleonard
12:26 wahanui i think oleonard is seeing some buggy stuff though
12:26 twod thank  you i will try :)
12:27 ashimema you poked your head above he parapice ;)
12:27 ashimema any chance you could take another look at the opac css bug.. i might be applying it wrong.. but it doesn't look right to me for some reason
12:27 oleonard ashimema: I wondered if you were around... I don't think I'm reproducing your problem with the new opac CSS. It looks like the screenshots to me.
12:28 ashimema interesting
12:28 ashimema let me re-apply it now
12:28 ashimema it should just be.. apply the patch, run the yarn build, refresh the page right?
12:29 oleonard Yes
12:30 ashimema i see this when running the yarn build now:   autoprefixer: /home/martin/kohaclone/koha​-tmpl/opac-tmpl/bootstrap/css/src/opac.css:1046:3: Gradient has outdated direction syntax. New syntax is like `to left` instead of `right`.
12:30 ashimema sure I didn't see that earlier
12:30 ashimema http://mrdev-elastic.koha-ptfs[…]koha/
12:30 oleonard Yeah you did :)
12:30 ashimema does that look correct for you?
12:31 oleonard Definitely not
12:31 ashimema it's odd
12:31 ashimema I can't see what I've done wrong
12:32 oleonard ashimema: That page doesn't even have any of Koha's CSS in the page source
12:32 oleonard No link to opac.css
12:33 ashimema without the patch it looks as I expect
12:33 ashimema oh..
12:33 ashimema does it need opac.css in a syspref somewher?
12:34 oleonard I'm not sure if another CSS syspref could make that link disappear?
12:35 ashimema it's ` OpacAdditionalStylesheet `
12:35 ashimema it has to contain opac.css
12:36 ashimema for the patch to work
12:36 oleonard It shouldn't
12:36 ashimema I had it removed (it's there by default on install) becuase this is a copy of a customer system to get some good test data ;)
12:37 ashimema normal bootstrap opac doesn't look bad without opac.css though in that field
12:37 ashimema yeah.. so have I inadvertantly uncovered a bug 😉 ?
12:38 oleonard ashimema: I simply don't understand how to reproduce the problem you're seeing.
12:39 oleonard I have nothing in  OpacAdditionalStylesheet and it works correctly.
12:39 ashimema try blanking the ` OpacAdditionalStylesheet ` systempref and then refreshing
12:39 ashimema really
12:39 ashimema thats odd
12:41 oleonard Ah wait...
12:41 oleonard I had opac.css in  opaclayoutstylesheet
12:41 oleonard ...which shouldn't be required according to the system pref description
12:42 oleonard ...although it looks like it's a default
12:42 ashimema interesting.
12:42 ashimema I didnt blank that one deliberately either..
12:42 ashimema hmm
12:45 matts hey cait, I just ran a standard Coral installer and had no problems at all. :\
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13:03 twod ok so i removed the database
13:04 twod and added it again via mysql. then i restarted apache server and when i go to localohost everything is at was before (no web install)
13:06 oleonard twod: You might need to restart plack and memcached too
13:06 oleonard sudo service memcached restart
13:07 tcohen morning
13:07 marcelr hi tcohen
13:07 twod YAY. so i restarted apache/memcashe/mysql an looks like it works
13:07 twod thank you oleonard! ;)
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13:08 caroline Hello everyone!
13:09 oleonard Good morning caroline
13:09 ashimema hi guys and gals
13:09 cait matts: typical - which OS?
13:09 oleonard twod: Are you testing Koha for use? For development?
13:09 twod for development
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13:11 oleonard Cool
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13:12 cait twod: about the marc flavour - that's nt strictly european vs. US
13:12 cait you might want to check what libraries are use in your country
13:12 cait are using...
13:12 cait where are you from?
13:13 cait and back from the meeting :)
13:13 cait caroline: hi! we also talked about your serials pattern page :)
13:13 caroline cait: what about it?
13:14 twod I'm from Latvia
13:14 twod i'm not sure what marc we are using here, this all is fairly new to me ;D
13:15 cait we just had our koha meeting and someone was asking for pattern examples/collection :)
13:15 cait hm
13:15 caroline Cool!
13:15 caroline Hopefully, with Mana, it will help a lot
13:15 cait twod: maybe check what the national library does
13:16 cait more libraries are using marc21 than unimarc in my experience
13:17 cait there have been dialects like normarc in norway, but it#s closer to marc21 than unimarc
13:17 cait with unimarc afaik mostly used in france and maybe spain
13:17 * oleonard 's random Latvian library Google search leads me to believe MARC21
13:17 cait same here
13:18 cait and RDA
13:18 cait example slook like MARC21 too
13:18 * caroline 's search for "cats" in latvia's national library catalogue returns canadian content :D
13:18 cait heh
13:19 caroline Looks like MARC21[…]000001&format=001
13:19 oleonard 😺
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13:20 cait I've added some notes to the 2020 proposal page btw - hope it's ok https://wiki.koha-community.or[…]haCon20_Proposals
13:20 cait just to avoid further problems
13:20 caroline +1
13:20 oleonard cait++
13:21 cait twod: the #koha librarian hive mind says marc21 ;)
13:22 twod oh sweet :D
13:22 twod thank you
13:23 oleonard Do you work for a library twod, if you don't mind me asking?
13:23 twod nope
13:24 twod just a project manager for a private company
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13:27 tuxayo twod: yay! more people working partly at least in installing/supporting Koha :D
13:27 twod another question. does the DEV koha supposed to be ... how should i say... CSS-less?
13:28 kohaputti twod, your installation is plain html? Maybe you got apache config wrong?
13:31 twod oh don't even start me on the god damn apachi! The configuration of 2.4 was some sort of nightmare
13:31 oleonard I wonder if we're missing steps in the instructions for doing a git installation
13:33 tuxayo twod: ouch, that sound like painfull memories ><
13:33 tuxayo You used the conf that comes with Koha right?
13:33 twod yes i got them from git as it is in koha community instruction
13:33 tuxayo Isn't 2.6 easier to configure?
13:36 oleonard twod: I highly recommend kohadevbox
13:40 cait seconds that
13:41 matts cait, Ubuntu 16.04.5 LTS, 10.0.36-MariaDB, PHP 7.0.32-0ubuntu0.16.04.1, Apache/2.4.18
13:41 cait twod: you might see bug 12904
13:41 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=12904 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, kyle, RESOLVED FIXED, Force browser to load new JavaScript and CSS files after upgrade
13:42 cait you shoudl have something like that in your apache conf file:
13:42 cait RewriteRule ^(.*)_[0-9][0-9]\.[0-9][0-9][​0-9][0-9][0-9][0-9][0-9].js$ $1.js [L] RewriteRule ^(.*)_[0-9][0-9]\.[0-9][0-9​][0-9][0-9][0-9][0-9][0-9].css$ $1.css [L]
13:42 tuxayo yep, if this isn't a production instance then KohaDevBox++ twod
13:42 cait but yeah, kohadevbox would totally avoid these issues and comes with all our shiny tools set up
13:42 twod :D well where were you guys week ago
13:43 cait hereß
13:43 cait ?
13:45 * cait is always here.. almost .)
13:45 caroline cait is here almost 24 hours a day hehe!
13:46 cait *hides*
13:47 ashimema cait is indeed the personified heart and soul of Koha
13:47 caroline cait++
13:47 ashimema koha even... it's not meant to be capitalised silly mobile auto-complete
13:48 twod ye my mistake of not coming here faster
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14:03 oleonard Every little thing I do with Bug 20935 seems to lead to more trouble...
14:03 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=20935 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, ASSIGNED , Redesign system preferences interface
14:04 oleonard oleonard is seeing some buggy stuff though
14:04 wahanui i already had it that way, oleonard.
14:04 oleonard 👍
14:06 oleonard Nice to have you back wahanui
14:07 oleonard wahanui botsnack poutine
14:07 wahanui :)
14:12 Freddy_Enrique wahanui is back??!!!
14:12 Freddy_Enrique Gotta be carful
14:12 Freddy_Enrique careful*
14:13 Freddy_Enrique Good morning oleonard
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14:32 fridolin New easy bug 21487
14:32 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=21487 minor, P5 - low, ---, fridolin.somers, Needs Signoff , Disable CataloguingLog syspref in
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14:42 * ashimema wishes he lived in a world where train WiFi was reliable enough to work from
14:46 alex_a In france, wifi is reliable. But not train...
14:47 tuxayo ashimema: In france it's decent enough so that my coleagues can often work in trains. So there is hope! :)
14:47 ashimema Haha
14:47 ashimema Perhaps I'll try it in my next trip to Marseille
14:47 * oleonard wishes he lived in a world with trains
14:47 tuxayo :D
14:48 alex_a Because wifi is never on strike
14:48 ashimema It wasn't great last time and I did that by train
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15:07 oleonard davidnind around?
15:08 davidnind i am
15:09 cait oleonard: i want poutine too!
15:09 caroline Is bug 11285 the ongoing bug for vocabulary translation problems?
15:09 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=11285 normal, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , Vocabulary disambiguation
15:10 cait kind of
15:10 cait i'd make new separate linked bugs if you want to patch something
15:10 oleonard davidnind: Bug 21479 shouldn't get both patches applied
15:10 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=21479 major, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Needs Signoff , Removing from cart removes 2 items
15:10 caroline Ok
15:12 oleonard davidnind: It's either one or the other, so you have to use the "interactive" option when applying
15:14 davidnind oleonard: still new to applying patches, what is the right way to apply? (using koha-testing-docker)
15:14 oleonard You are using git-bz on the command line?
15:15 davidnind oleonard: sorry, didn't look before hitting the enter button!  Will try interactive option now..
15:16 oleonard Add a # at the start of the line of the patch you don't want to apply
15:17 * caroline is taking notes
15:19 davidnind so for this one I only want 79903 to apply?
15:20 oleonard If you want to test my patch, yes :)
15:24 davidnind the patch fails :-(
15:26 reiveune bye
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15:27 oleonard davidnind: Are you sure your branch is "clean?" You might want to do 'git reset --hard origin' to make sure.
15:27 oleonard Or check out a new branch based on master
15:28 oleonard Sometimes a failed patch will leave garbage behind and make it impossible to try again.
15:29 davidnind I'm sure it's probably something I've done - master is up-to-date, will create a branch for the bug and try again.. Will try the hard reset as well..
15:32 davidnind yeah, patch now applied, now to test...
15:33 oleonard davidnind++
15:34 * ashimema loves the community for this example of helpful chatter.. so good to see how people always help each other out
15:35 caroline #koha++
15:41 davidnind oleonard: looks good, the number of items in the cart are correct and everything behaves as it should!
15:43 oleonard Great
15:44 caroline So for vocabulary disambiguation, is the solution to change the English words? Or is there a way in the templates to mark them as different?
15:47 cait right now... you can only change the words
15:47 cait like add a word
15:47 cait cancel hold (instead of just cancel)
15:47 cait or something like that
15:47 cait there are patches from julian around waiting for qa that promise something like 'context' but I don't understand yet how this will work
15:48 cait and it's been hard to find someone to qa....
15:48 caroline So I have to change the words in the .tt
15:48 caroline ?
15:49 caroline Is there somewhere else this will be affected? (I don't want to break everything)
15:49 caroline Bug 21490
15:49 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=21490 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , Disambiguation of "Order"
15:56 davidnind oleonard: so to sign off it is 1) git so 1 and 2) git bz attach -e 21479 HEAD  ? (just want to make sure I do it right, last time Fridolin was showing me what to do!)
15:56 oleonard Correct
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16:06 corilynn oleonard qq about kohadevbox
16:07 oleonard I'm not an expert, just a fan, but go ahead
16:07 corilynn i encountered an error (DBD::mysql::st execute failed: Cannot delete or update a parent row: a foreign key constraint fails at /usr/share/perl5/DBIx/ line 273.) thinking it was an issue with my quirky install i did a vagrant destroy / up
16:08 corilynn but I'm now right back at the same error
16:08 corilynn have you seen this?
16:08 oleonard At what stage in the process did you see that?
16:08 corilynn when i do a destroy, everying is gone, right?
16:09 corilynn after install I got to http://localhost:8081/ and do all the steps through the interface
16:09 corilynn this worked fine on monday...
16:10 oleonard corilynn: So the web installer works, but you get the error when you try to log in to the staff interface?
16:11 corilynn word
16:11 corilynn well, i'm walking through the web interface, right?
16:11 corilynn http://localhost:8081/cgi-bin/[…]taller/
16:13 oleonard If you're starting with an empty database, you could try dropping it, recreating it, and doing the restart_all command.
16:14 oleonard Then try the web installer again.
16:14 corilynn I *think* I'm starting with an empty database... isn't it empty if I do a "vagrant destroy" ?
16:15 oleonard Yes
16:15 corilynn then something b broken...?
16:15 corilynn anyone done a fresh kohadevbox lately?
16:15 oleonard ...assuming you haven't configured it to use a remote database I suppose...
16:15 corilynn I don't even have a remote database for it to use
16:20 corilynn hm... so I went to http://localhost:8081/cgi-bin/[…]taller/ again and it seems to be going along its merry way *shrug*
16:21 cait bye all!
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16:32 davidnind oleonard: bug 21479 now signed off (that took a while, had a problem with my so alias in global git config which caused an error - now fixed!), hope I did that right!
16:32 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=21479 major, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Signed Off , Removing from cart removes 2 items
16:40 oleonard Testing Bug 17047 requires an authentication token? From where?
16:40 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=17047 new feature, P5 - low, ---, alex.arnaud, Needs Signoff , Mana Knowledge Base : share data
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17:50 kidclamp is it via the syspref ManaToken oleonard?
17:51 oleonard kidclamp: reading in the test plan, "To get an Authentication token, you have to fill a form and validate your e-mail address"
17:52 kidclamp step 4  Search the syspref ManaToken and follow the instructions
17:52 oleonard Oh okay, I didn't read ahead because I thought I was stymied before I started.
17:53 kidclamp always read to the end - or you get a crumpled sheet of paper wuth lots of erasing
17:53 kidclamp (if anyone else had that ditto in shcool)
17:54 oleonard Yeah but I'm still mad about that exercise so I refuse to obey
18:06 oleonard (that's why a hush falls over the saloon when I saunter in)
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18:49 oleonard Hi cait and alexbuckley
18:49 * cait waves
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20:00 cait Margaret_++
20:00 cait Margaret++ too
20:00 cait bug 21351
20:00 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=21351 minor, P5 - low, ---, margaret, Needs Signoff , Traditional Chinese Language pack should have file name "zh-Hant-TW" not "zh-Hans-TW"
20:01 bag heya cait
20:01 Margaret_ thanks cait, you have no idea how protracted a process that was.
20:01 cait pro...?
20:01 Margaret_ long and stretched out process
20:01 rangi if you sign off ill qa cait
20:02 cait ... which is what i just asked him in pm lol
20:02 rangi hehe
20:02 cait just finishing reading bug mail first
20:09 cait @later tell khall can you please check sandboxes? It seems to happen often that it adds 2 sign-off lines (bug 21082 for an example)
20:09 huginn cait: The operation succeeded.
20:12 kidclamp have a nice night y'all
20:17 cait night kidclamp!
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20:47 caroline bye #koha!
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