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@seen dcook |
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huginn` |
mtompset: dcook was last seen in #koha 20 weeks, 1 day, 20 hours, 32 minutes, and 38 seconds ago: <dcook> Oh also if someone wants a super easy pretty trivial sign off: https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]_bug.cgi?id=20592 |
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mtompset |
Wow. 20 weeks. Okay, if anyone wishes to sign off bug 20592, that would be nice. :) |
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Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=20592 minor, P5 - low, ---, mtompset, Needs Signoff , updateitem.pl causes database errors when empty non-public item notes updated |
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mtompset |
Have a great day (24 hour period), #koha. |
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marcelr |
hi #koha |
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alex_a |
bonjour |
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wahanui |
bidet, alex_a |
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waves |
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tuxayo |
Hi #koha |
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* cait |
waves |
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tuxayo |
So, Fridolin, Matts and Paul are on their way to the KohaCon! |
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tuxayo |
o/ cait |
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tuxayo |
o/ andreashm |
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calire |
o/ |
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tuxayo |
\o |
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magnuse |
lucky Fridolin, Matts and Paul :-) |
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andreashm |
oh, leaving early! |
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leaves very early on Saturday |
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ashimema |
what timezone is caroline in? |
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cait |
hm not sure, but she is in canada |
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ashimema |
thanks cait |
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jenkins |
Project Koha_18.05_D8 build #57: SUCCESS in 21 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]Koha_18.05_D8/57/ |
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jenkins |
Project Koha_18.05_U18 build #55: SUCCESS in 25 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]oha_18.05_U18/55/ |
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jenkins |
Project Koha_18.05_D9 build #57: SUCCESS in 40 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]Koha_18.05_D9/57/ |
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oleonard |
Hi all |
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AndrewIsh |
Hi oleonard |
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wahanui |
hi oleopard |
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oleonard: Just an FYI, that question I was asking yesterday about the strange use of api() in KohaTable. As I mentioned, I rebased Bug 20600, that I needed to use it with, but seems that the rebase was bad, despite it appearing to work. Anyway, I've rebased it properly this time! What's on BZ should now work :) |
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huginn` |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=20600 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, andrew.isherwood, Needs Signoff , Provide the ability for users to filter ILL requests |
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calire |
hi oleonard |
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wahanui |
hi oleopard |
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magnuse |
easy peasy signoff: bug 21322 |
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huginn` |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=21322 normal, P5 - low, ---, magnus, Needs Signoff , process_message_queue.pl --type should take an argument |
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marcelr |
kidclamp: will have alook soon for 17530; thx |
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ashimema |
bug 17530 |
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huginn` |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=17530 normal, P5 - low, ---, m.de.rooy, Failed QA , Don't show 'article request' link when no article requests are permitted |
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paxed |
cait: /win 19 |
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paxed |
oops. |
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cait |
hm? |
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Wow our irma count has dropped by 83% today. |
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* oleonard |
is away: I'm busy |
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huginn` |
News from kohagit: Bug 7534: DBRev 18.06.00.024 <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]86ed3a923b7c11bdb> |
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huginn` |
News from kohagit: Bug 7534: (QA follow-up) Don't do pickup branch checking for determining holdability... <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]767b1bfe30d3d82de> |
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huginn` |
News from kohagit: Bug 7534: (RM follow-up) Fix tests and adjust after bug 15524 <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]04618bb560d471586> |
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huginn` |
News from kohagit: Bug 19817: Remove numbering from chapter file names <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]6ecdff0893d35b9df> |
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huginn` |
News from kohagit: Bug 7534: Disambiguate branchcode parameter, make it match between subroutines <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]1d745fb77c7f305e3> |
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huginn` |
News from kohagit: Bug 7534: Fix number of tests for Holds.t <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]899a09723709e11de> |
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huginn` |
News from kohagit: Bug 19817: (QA follow-up) Add German manual and fix system preference help files <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]25b3aa7146e19c866> |
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huginn` |
News from kohagit: Bug 19817: use https instead of http <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]9277ccfb150a5095c> |
| 17:39 |
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huginn` |
News from kohagit: Bug 19817: Use the language from the interface if valid <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]63c58cea8b4fe668f> |
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huginn` |
News from kohagit: Bug 19817: Open the manual in a new window, not a popup <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]40ce67facdcd43685> |
| 17:39 |
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huginn` |
News from kohagit: Bug 19817: Add pref KohaManualLanguage <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]e970e95ed0f283b55> |
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huginn` |
News from kohagit: Bug 19817: Move code to Koha::Manual to make it testable and reusable <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]ad38f75ae283b4a5c> |
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huginn` |
News from kohagit: Bug 19817: Make the location of the manual configurable - KohaManualBaseURL <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]f7f90f00a7ca15676> |
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huginn` |
News from kohagit: Bug 19817: Remove local help files + edit help feature <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]d65bd3f3b0ef8bbde> |
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huginn` |
News from kohagit: Bug 19817: Redirect to the online manual <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]8969e749bd13dff1a> |
| 17:39 |
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huginn` |
News from kohagit: Bug 7534: (QA follow-up) Default pickup location to Yes when adding a new library <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]328209f373d57e1bf> |
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huginn` |
News from kohagit: Bug 7534: Display pickup locations instead of all libraries in request.pl <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]fc550b7bad1609e8f> |
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huginn` |
News from kohagit: Bug 7534: Display pickup locations instead of all libraries in opac-reserve.pl <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]746010648de3ed007> |
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huginn` |
News from kohagit: Bug 7534: Check hold availability to desired pickup location in opac-reserve.pl <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]19475f41baf08f6b6> |
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huginn` |
News from kohagit: Bug 7534: Validate pickup location in CanBook/ItemBeReserved <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]5b86283522cc7bfd3> |
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kidclamp |
and now I run away so jenkins has no one to yell at |
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is back (gone 00:31:47) |
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ashimema |
What's an Irma count |
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oleonard |
ashimema: The number of irmas who were logged in at one time. |
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oleonard |
The number was 6. |
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ashimema |
Lol |
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jenkins |
Project Koha_Master_D9 build #551: STILL UNSTABLE in 25 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]ha_Master_D9/551/ |
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oleonard |
Nice try jenkins kidclamp is long gone |
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jenkins |
Project Koha_Master_U18 build #39: UNSTABLE in 30 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]ha_Master_U18/39/ |
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ashimema |
Oh noes .. UNSTABLE |
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jenkins |
Project Koha_Master_D8 build #45: UNSTABLE in 35 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]oha_Master_D8/45/ |
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andreashm |
hi #koha |
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caroline_ |
Anybody know anything about LSPs? (Library Services Platform) |
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caroline_ |
Library tech. students asked me about it this morning. It is apparently the future of ILSs (?) |
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rangi |
caroline_: its a marketing term |
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rangi |
like cloud = someone elses computers |
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rangi |
LSP = whatever whoever is selling it at the time decides it is |
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caroline_ |
hehehe! |
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rangi |
you'll hear EBSCO for example talk about FOLIO as an LSP in one breath, and as an ILS in another |
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rangi |
bascially it kinda boils down to a hosted multitenant system that provides library services |
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caroline_ |
Does it have to do with discovery platforms? |
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rangi |
it could |
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caroline_ |
hosted multitenant system? In english? |
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rangi |
think of a hosted koha, on a cluster of servers |
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rangi |
that serves 5 different libraries, each separate |
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rangi |
they dont even need to know the others are there |
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caroline_ |
but just one koha? |
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rangi |
one code base |
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rangi |
multiple databases in the back (or siloed data in another way in the case of FOLIO) |
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caroline_ |
Because that's pretty much what we have here. We have maybe 4-5 servers each with 6-9 kohas running on them |
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rangi |
exactly |
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rangi |
now say you offered vufind, or eds with that |
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rangi |
you could say, its a platform |
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rangi |
but like I say, its not a real term, its a marketing one |
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caroline_ |
ok so like a solution incorporating more than one software working in concert |
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rangi |
thats one definition yep |
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rangi |
but really you can say it is whatever you feel like :) |
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rangi |
cos you know the proprietary vendors will, an LSP will be whatever they have :) |
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caroline_ |
I think this is one of the things they were referring to this morning : https://www.mcgill.ca/library/[…]services-platform |
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rangi |
yeah |
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rangi |
you could subsitute library system |
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rangi |
for library services platform |
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caroline_ |
ILS is too old school ;) |
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rangi |
and it would be equally valid |
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rangi |
yep |
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rangi |
often we say Library Management System |
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rangi |
not ILS |
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rangi |
its just whoever your audience is, and what they want to hear :) |
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caroline_ |
hehe! |
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caroline_ |
But if it's the new buzzword, it's good to know it |
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rangi |
yup |
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andreashm |
I would say that LSP is a broader definition than ILS |
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rangi |
andreashm: i'd say that nothing in that broader definition actually exists yet ;) |
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rangi |
but yeah it can be whatever you want it to be, in maybe 3 more years there will be an accepted definition |
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andreashm |
pff. semantics. =) |
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rangi |
but now ive heard people say LSP when they are talking about ALMA |
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rangi |
which is fully an ILS |
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rangi |
but also LSP talking about FOLIO, which potentially could be more than an ILS |
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andreashm |
LMS I've hards used for Alma |
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andreashm |
heard |
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rangi |
once EBSCO started using LSP, Proquest started too |
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rangi |
thats how those 2 roll :) |
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andreashm |
yup |
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rangi |
but it is a good one to be aware of |
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caroline_ |
From what I'm reading here http://www.sirsidynix.com/prod[…]services-platform it seems to refer to web-based ILS |
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rangi |
yeah which koha has been since 1999 |
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caroline_ |
"The BLUEcloud LSP is the future of library software. It brings the power of contemporary cloud computing to Horizon and Symphony and avoids the costs of a system migration" |
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caroline_ |
I know! We should totally market it as an LSP |
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rangi |
but thats cos thats what sirsidynix have to offer, so thats an LSP |
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rangi |
EBSCO have FOLIO, so now thats an LSP |
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rangi |
:) |
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rangi |
marketing is fun |
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caroline_ |
Sirsi are not marketing Symphony as an LSP though |
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rangi |
afaict its symphony hosted with some other stuff |
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andreashm |
I would think you need to offer something like SaaS to make claims of a LSP. Something "in the cloud" as rangi says |
| 20:05 |
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rangi |
sirsi also say this too |
| 20:05 |
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rangi |
The BLUEcloud LSP is a truly open system, powered by Web Services that can extend almost anywhere. With this flexible architecture, vendors and customers alike can develop integrations and solutions quickly, giving you the most options for your library system. |
| 20:06 |
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rangi |
so yeah they will even co opt open to refer to proprietary software |
| 20:06 |
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andreashm |
with some other systems/modules added probably. Sirsi has Coral as the ERM for Blue cloud I think? |
| 20:06 |
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rangi |
words actually have no meaning in marketing hehehe |
| 20:06 |
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rangi |
andreashm: thats right |
| 20:07 |
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rangi |
to their credit they even funded some dev on Coral |
| 20:07 |
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* andreashm |
should put some marketing buzz-words into my presentation. claim we have an LSP perhaps? |
| 20:07 |
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rangi |
which we should hear about next week in one of the talks I think |
| 20:07 |
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rangi |
andreashm: if you have koha + something else hosted then yeah you could totally call it an LSP i reckon |
| 20:07 |
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andreashm |
rangi: yeah, Sirsi does some good stuff here and there. after all. =) |
| 20:08 |
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rangi |
now that stephen abrams is gone |
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andreashm |
rangi: we do. and even built a service layer to handle the api calls. so def an lsp. or so I'll claim! =) |
| 20:08 |
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rangi |
yup :) |
| 20:08 |
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caroline_ |
Ah! It's all this guy Marshall Breeding's fault : "I coined the term library services platform in 2011 |
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caroline_ |
to describe a new set of products that were being developed that promised to take a much different approach to library resource management than the incumbent integrated library systems." |
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andreashm |
rangi: was that the dude who dissed open source? |
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andreashm |
(stephen abrams) |
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rangi |
andreashm: thats right was the VP at SirsiDynix, wrote that big whitepaper on how it was indirectly funding terrorism and other ridiculous claims |
| 20:10 |
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rangi |
was aimed more at OLE than Koha but still |
| 20:10 |
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andreashm |
yeah, that was a crazy piece of writing |
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* andreashm |
remembers it fondly |
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rangi |
heh |
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rangi |
ok, i gotta go teach a class on SQL |
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rangi |
see you in the USA in a few days |
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andreashm |
best of luck! |
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andreashm |
yup, look forward to meeting irl |
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cait |
cya in Portland, rangi |
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andreashm |
hi cait! |
| 20:14 |
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andreashm |
sent you an e-mail earlier. |
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cait |
yep, thx!! |
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