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@wunder Konstanz |
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huginn |
cait: Konstanz, Germany :: Mostly Cloudy :: 64F/18C | Wind Chill: 64F/18C | Tuesday: Increasing clouds with showers arriving this afternoon. High 76F. Winds WSW at 5 to 10 mph. Chance of rain 50%. Tuesday Night: Some clouds. Low 58F. Winds light and variable. |
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@wunder joensuu |
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paxed: Joensuu, Finland :: Mostly Cloudy :: 54F/12C | Tuesday: Mainly cloudy. High 58F. Winds NNW at 5 to 10 mph. Tuesday Night: Partly cloudy skies. Low 43F. Winds light and variable. |
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it's not summer anymore :/ |
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@wunder Stevenage, United Kingdom |
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ashimema: Stevenage, United Kingdom :: Partly Cloudy :: 57F/14C | Tuesday: A mix of clouds and sun during the morning will give way to cloudy skies this afternoon. High 77F. Winds W at 10 to 15 mph. Tuesday Night: Mainly clear. Low 58F. Winds WSW at 10 to 15 mph. |
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reiveune |
hello |
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andreashm |
hi #koha |
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tuxayo |
Hi, during the upgrade of a test instance to 17.11, the deletedbiblioitems wasn't filed deletedbiblio_metadata (insert failled due to constraints) Will this afect the usability of Koha? On this instance, we don't plan to manually interact with deletedbiblio_metadata or deletedbiblio_metadata |
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tuxayo |
And the production we will fix the duplicate data that led to the error. So the real upgrade won't have this issue. |
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tuxayo |
Se the question is whether we can ignore the issue in the test instance about this two tables? |
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andreashm |
tuxayo: we are upgrading our production server now and I can't see any issues with deletedbiblio_metadata, for whatever that is worth. so if you clean up the data that caused the issue on the testserver, I would _guess_ that the issue can be ignored. |
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andreashm |
we had an issue with a column in the borrowers table that wasn't created though |
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tuxayo |
andreashm: updatedatabase fail on the instruction populating deletedbiblio_metadata |
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tuxayo: working with VM's? Rollback to a backup, fix the issue and upgrade again? |
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tuxayo |
andreashm: We have a DB dump. But it's too avoid rerunning a 1h updatedatabase + other DB operations that were done after. |
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tuxayo |
*to avoid |
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tuxayo |
andreashm: it's only a test instance and after investigating, very few code use deletedbiblio_metadata |
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tuxayo |
Only Koha/OAI/Server/ListBase.pm |
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tuxayo |
So by change we can be ~lazy~ efficient here and just move on ^^ |
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tuxayo |
(while planning to fix the duplicates in deletedbiblioitems in production) |
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tuxayo |
At least now it's documented there :) |
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tuxayo |
https://wiki.koha-community.or[…]eletedbiblioitems |
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andreashm |
tuxayo: yay for documentation |
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tuxayo |
Hopefully such a page will be in the common namespace and be linked in the relevant places so people needing it will find it. |
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ashimema |
oleonerd++ # diligently working through bug 13618 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=13618 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Needs Signoff , Prevent XSS in the Staff Client and the OPAC |
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waves |
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cait |
oleonard++ indeed :) |
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cait |
ashimema: oleonErd? hadn't seen that one yet - also fitting ;) |
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ashimema |
lol |
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ashimema |
oops |
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oleonard |
Hi #koha |
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kidclamp |
hi oleonard |
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calire |
hi oleonard |
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oleonard |
What are we doin' today? |
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cait |
oleonard: why bug 17674 back to nso? |
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huginn` |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=17674 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, charles.farmer, Needs Signoff , Allow UI to delete serials issues in batch |
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ashimema |
singing off all the things of course oleonard |
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oleonard |
cait: I don't think the last patch ever got a signoff |
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oleonard |
cait: Or maybe dropped a signoff in rebasing? But it didn't look like it according to the history. |
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eythian |
ashimema: singing? |
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* ashimema |
can't type today :( |
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oleonard |
ashimema: But can you sing? |
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ashimema |
haha |
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calire |
oleonard: current status: https://twitter.com/elenacresc[…]28974240287141888 |
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oleonard |
calire: It's amazing to look at how other countries do things and know with such certainty that they're doing it better. |
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calire |
if the library thing doesn't work out I might move to Japan and become a mascot |
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cait |
oleonard: i just trust your follow-ups too much maybe :) |
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* kidclamp |
feels like this is the one chance to talk about catchingn three shiny evees on pokemon go community day |
| 12:44 |
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calire |
kidclamp++ |
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Joubu |
hi #koha |
| 12:46 |
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oleonard |
calire: You could do both! We just have to revive the old Koha mascot Blobby https://zivotdesign.com/p/view[…]?p=15342507495260 |
| 12:48 |
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calire |
aaaw |
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calire |
I can be purple blob |
| 12:49 |
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cait |
i always forget about it :) |
| 12:51 |
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huginn` |
News from kohagit: Bug 21121: DBRev 18.06.00.014 <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]67faaa92baf00e7aa> |
| 12:51 |
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huginn` |
News from kohagit: Bug 21185: Incorrect title tag on tags review page <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]1310892282f582988> |
| 12:51 |
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huginn` |
News from kohagit: Bug 21164: Fix alignment on new basket form in acquisitions <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]4319ca3bffc39b78a> |
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huginn` |
News from kohagit: Bug 21139: No table in toolbar <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]c3e6bbe52f2373e6c> |
| 12:51 |
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huginn` |
News from kohagit: Bug 21139: Floating toolbar - Resize toolbar on window resize <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]87d968e071ab46b93> |
| 12:51 |
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huginn` |
News from kohagit: Bug 21139: Floating toolbar - Remove horizontal scrollbar on resize <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]e0a13806f68a2f515> |
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huginn` |
News from kohagit: Bug 21139: Floating toolbars - Remove unecessary height <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]2e4ef5307c1834a71> |
| 12:51 |
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huginn` |
News from kohagit: Bug 20795: Inform the user about this change, add to pod <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]8dd4b876527bd67ba> |
| 12:51 |
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huginn` |
News from kohagit: Bug 21137: use logged_in_user from opac-user.pl <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]928a8e37c3486b91e> |
| 12:51 |
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huginn` |
News from kohagit: Bug 21121: Add the IGNORE clause <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]e5f528abb51871d82> |
| 12:51 |
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huginn` |
News from kohagit: Bug 21137: Replace BORROWER_INFO with logged_in_user <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]86b3bcca0e33ecc4a> |
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huginn` |
News from kohagit: Bug 21137: Replace USER_INFO with logged_in_user <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]ba3840a54c9953419> |
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huginn` |
News from kohagit: Bug 21137: Standardize breadcrumbs for tags page <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]e38ebb7aa2a36ccd1> |
| 12:51 |
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huginn` |
News from kohagit: Bug 21112: Re-indent staff client cart template <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]19433ba3cacbde1fd> |
| 12:51 |
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huginn` |
News from kohagit: Bug 21121: Added new system preference to control hiding of personal patron informati... <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]e87ae9f2ae3b7ed40> |
| 12:51 |
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huginn` |
News from kohagit: Bug 20226: Centralize update child code (CATCODE_MULTI) <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]fb40400b17c868786> |
| 12:51 |
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huginn` |
News from kohagit: Bug 20795: Pass incrreased verbosity to zebra rebuild script <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]a86517ef40629fedc> |
| 12:51 |
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ashimema |
oh noes.. my queue just got filled up |
| 12:51 |
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huginn` |
News from kohagit: Bug 18236: MARC21 - Add classes to material type on intranet detail and results pages <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]b85b2b87cacd3ae40> |
| 12:51 |
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huginn` |
News from kohagit: Bug 19743: Unit Tests <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]2a7592097684b2220> |
| 12:51 |
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huginn` |
News from kohagit: Bug 19743: Update header and footer on each item for checkin / checkout / renewal... <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]d4f023d4aa54288a5> |
| 12:52 |
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cait |
that's life ;) |
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* oleonard |
cheers |
| 12:52 |
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cait |
hm I would like to bring 18723 back to attention |
| 12:56 |
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kidclamp |
bug 18273 |
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huginn` |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=18273 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , Bulkmarcimport inserts authority duplicates |
| 12:56 |
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kidclamp |
bug 18723 |
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huginn` |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=18723 critical, P5 - low, ---, victor.grousset, ASSIGNED , Dot not recognized as decimal separator |
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oleonard |
Joubu, QA: Is a "signed off" comment adequate for Bug 13618? I hereby grant it the title "Signed off." |
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huginn` |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=13618 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Needs Signoff , Prevent XSS in the Staff Client and the OPAC |
| 12:58 |
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ashimema |
oleonard++... oh noes.. now that means one of us has to QA it |
| 12:59 |
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caroline |
cait: did you get LeeJ's email? You want to chair? I can try my hand at it |
| 12:59 |
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caroline |
At least we know he wasn't abducted by aliens ;) |
| 12:59 |
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cait |
oh reading his emai lnow sec |
| 12:59 |
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caroline |
Also, good morning everyone! |
| 13:00 |
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calire |
hi caroline |
| 13:00 |
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cait |
ugh, poor one |
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cait |
please try your hand , i will be here but my concentration is not best today |
| 13:00 |
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cait |
still can help when needed |
| 13:00 |
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caroline |
ok! |
| 13:00 |
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cait |
in an hour, right? |
| 13:00 |
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caroline |
yup |
| 13:01 |
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cait |
struggling with acq.. |
| 13:01 |
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ashimema |
acq.. my favourite topic right now.. ;') |
| 13:03 |
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kidclamp |
what are you fighting cait? |
| 13:04 |
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cait |
when you set CurrencyFormat to EUR |
| 13:04 |
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cait |
you have to order with decimal dot, but you have to receive with decimal comma |
| 13:04 |
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cait |
isn't that fun? :( |
| 13:04 |
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cait |
if you enter 10.00 it will turn it into 1000 |
| 13:05 |
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cait |
we really need to make progress with the solution victor was working on... or, what i would prefer right now, fix the behaviour at least |
| 13:05 |
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cait |
to be consistent again - dot is good, enter alland everything using dot until further notice |
| 13:08 |
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Joubu |
oleonard: yes please, you can comment and change the status. Then I will add your SO-by lines on the remote branch |
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Joubu |
cait: meeting is in 1h |
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Joubu |
(I think) |
| 13:10 |
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caroline |
Joubu: yes at 14UTC |
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Freddy_Enrique |
Good morning people |
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Freddy_Enrique |
buenos dias caroline |
| 13:11 |
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caroline |
good morning Freddy_Enrique ! |
| 13:12 |
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Freddy_Enrique |
I should ask before the meeting. Is there any benefit using an IRC software than the IRC based on the web? |
| 13:13 |
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Joubu |
logs |
| 13:13 |
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caroline |
but we already have logs on the web no? |
| 13:14 |
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cait |
ping me if I forget plz :) |
| 13:14 |
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caroline |
cait: no prob |
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cait |
thx! |
| 13:14 |
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cait |
btw i voted - do i get a sticker now? :) |
| 13:15 |
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caroline |
hehehe! |
| 13:17 |
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caroline |
cait: https://gph.is/22L2mAv |
| 13:17 |
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Joubu |
caroline: no idea I have never used an IRC webchat actually :) |
| 13:18 |
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caroline |
Joubu: I meant, the channel is logged and the logs are available on the web |
| 13:18 |
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jenkins |
Project Koha_Master_D9 build #539: STILL UNSTABLE in 24 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]ha_Master_D9/539/ |
| 13:19 |
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cait |
caroline: <3 |
| 13:20 |
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cait |
and it's totally true |
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Joubu |
caroline: not pm |
| 13:21 |
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Joubu |
and grep is my friend |
| 13:21 |
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Freddy_Enrique |
Cant install Pidgin in my windows 10... |
| 13:22 |
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Freddy_Enrique |
gonna try another one+ |
| 13:22 |
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caroline |
Joubu: ah! you are right |
| 13:22 |
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jenkins |
Project Koha_Master_U18 build #27: UNSTABLE in 27 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]ha_Master_U18/27/ |
| 13:22 |
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Joubu |
and not all IRC channels have logs ;) |
| 13:23 |
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* oleonard |
is quite loyal to Chatzilla when using Windows |
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Freddy_Enrique |
Chatzilla... let see.... |
| 13:26 |
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Freddy_Enrique |
Ok... google chrome out of the question |
| 13:26 |
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oleonard |
Freddy_Enrique: If you're interested in Chatzilla, search for "standalone Chatzilla" |
| 13:27 |
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oleonard |
oleonard: I don't use the browser addon version because I don't want Chatzilla to crash when Firefox does |
| 13:27 |
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caroline |
Freddy_Enrique: I use smuxi and there seems to have one version for windows |
| 13:28 |
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cait |
fredericd: i am using pidgin - it supports more than IRC |
| 13:28 |
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cait |
so i got xmpp and some others and it's all just one app |
| 13:28 |
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jenkins |
Project Koha_Master_D8 build #27: UNSTABLE in 35 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]oha_Master_D8/27/ |
| 13:37 |
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Joubu |
oleonard: quick reminder (I forgot so you may have too): bug 20226 is now pushed, with the str/stuffs.inc to storethe strings |
| 13:37 |
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huginn` |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=20226 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Master , Get rid of CATCODE_MULTI param decision in patron perl scripts |
| 13:43 |
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tcohen |
morning |
| 13:43 |
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caroline |
Good morning! |
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Joubu |
xisbn.worldcat.org is down, anybody knows why? |
| 13:51 |
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kohaputti |
If anybody is interested about the Elasticsearch based SRU server: https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]_bug.cgi?id=21210 – there's a patch now |
| 13:51 |
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huginn` |
Bug 21210: new feature, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , Elasticsearch based SRU server |
| 13:51 |
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ashimema |
well they've been promising to kill it off for years Joubu |
| 13:51 |
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ashimema |
perhaps they finally got around to doing so |
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Joubu |
k |
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ashimema |
more likely it's just an intermitten failure.. I think allot of people got upset when they claimed they were discontinueing it |
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caroline |
Everybody ready for the meeting? |
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cait |
no?:) |
| 14:02 |
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Joubu |
kidclamp: so, 3 failures on last run: 1. Reserves.t is random (I will provide a diag patch for this one), 2. XISBN - their webservice returns 500, 3 - selenium test is failing, now idea what (do not recreate here, do you?) |
| 14:02 |
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cait |
i am here |
| 14:02 |
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Joubu |
kidclamp: let's see that later ;) |
| 14:02 |
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caroline |
ok, here we go (chairing baptism here, please be patient) |
| 14:02 |
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caroline |
#startmeeting Documentation IRC meeting 14 August 2018 |
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huginn` |
Meeting started Tue Aug 14 14:02:55 2018 UTC. The chair is caroline. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. |
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huginn` |
Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. |
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Topic for #koha is now (Meeting topic: Documentation IRC meeting 14 August 2018) |
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huginn` |
The meeting name has been set to 'documentation_irc_meeting_14_august_2018' |
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caroline |
#topic Introductions |
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Topic for #koha is now Introductions (Meeting topic: Documentation IRC meeting 14 August 2018) |
| 14:03 |
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caroline |
(please use "#info" in front of your introduction to have it show up in the automatic minutes) |
| 14:03 |
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caroline |
Oh right, wahanui is not here |
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Joubu |
#info Jonathan Druart |
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caroline |
#info Caroline Cyr La Rose, inLibro |
| 14:04 |
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caroline |
cait? |
| 14:04 |
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ashimema |
#info Martin Renvoize, PTFS Europe |
| 14:04 |
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cait |
#info Katrin Fischer, BSZ, Germany |
| 14:04 |
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cait |
sorry, too easily distracted today |
| 14:05 |
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caroline |
#topic What's been done so far |
| 14:05 |
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Topic for #koha is now What's been done so far (Meeting topic: Documentation IRC meeting 14 August 2018) |
| 14:06 |
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caroline |
So LeeJ is not here, I guess he would be more up to date as to what has been done |
| 14:06 |
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cait |
i think we have some patches waiting to be merged right now |
| 14:06 |
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cait |
like your work on homebound? |
| 14:06 |
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caroline |
I've seen that there are a couple of merge requests on gitlab |
| 14:06 |
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lucyvh |
#info Lucy Vaux-Harvey, PTFS Europe |
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georgew |
#info George Williams, NEKLS |
| 14:07 |
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caroline |
Yes, about homebound, maybe you've seen my rant on Taiga |
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* ashimema |
reminds himself whats on the taiga |
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cait |
ah, not got the email, maybe i shoudl check! |
| 14:07 |
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cait |
caroline: can you share a link maybe? |
| 14:07 |
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cait |
you can use #link for the logs |
| 14:07 |
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caroline |
one sec |
| 14:08 |
|
cait |
#link https://wiki.koha-community.or[…]ng_14_August_2018 Agenda |
| 14:08 |
|
cait |
logs = minutes |
| 14:08 |
|
* ashimema |
finds taiga hard to navigate |
| 14:09 |
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caroline |
#link https://tree.taiga.io/project/[…]ocs-1805/task/561 |
| 14:09 |
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cait |
ii ttakes a little getting used to, but i like it |
| 14:09 |
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caroline |
I was thinking we could get someone who's using the module to maybe write a use case? |
| 14:10 |
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caroline |
Sorry, context: |
| 14:10 |
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ashimema |
this one: https://tree.taiga.io/project/[…]ocs-1805/task/561 |
| 14:10 |
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caroline |
I wrote the housebound section, but I'm having a hard time getting an idea how this would be used in real life |
| 14:10 |
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ashimema |
lucyvh: do we have any internal docs regarding housebound we can share to help caroline |
| 14:10 |
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cait |
ashimema: you have some using it i think? |
| 14:11 |
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cait |
i think the functionality in Koha is not the issue... but as she states, how to you actually use the features for organizing the workflow |
| 14:11 |
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cait |
i think maybe reports? |
| 14:11 |
|
cait |
and caroline++ :) |
| 14:11 |
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caroline |
:) |
| 14:12 |
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cait |
i am totally with you on explaining how to use things real life |
| 14:12 |
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ashimema |
I just asked one of our trainers above ^ if we have some internal docs we can share.. it's been a while since we've trained it though.. customers use it.. but not large numbers of them |
| 14:12 |
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| 14:13 |
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caroline |
do they have like procedures that they use? I could include that in the section maybe? |
| 14:13 |
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cait |
#action ashimea to see about sharing internal docs for homebound/real use case info |
| 14:13 |
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cait |
hm not sure i can action, but like that :) |
| 14:13 |
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ashimema |
yeah.. she typo'd that.. can't be me ;) |
| 14:13 |
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lucyvh |
We've probably got a training powerpoint, not any scenarios though |
| 14:13 |
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caroline |
thank you cait, I keep forgetting :) |
| 14:14 |
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ashimema |
thanks lucyvh |
| 14:14 |
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caroline |
lucyvh: can you send the ppt to me? I'll see if I can get more info out of it |
| 14:15 |
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lucyvh |
Caroline, will do |
| 14:15 |
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caroline |
thanks! |
| 14:15 |
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caroline |
#action lucyvh will send training ppt to caroline |
| 14:16 |
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cait |
:) |
| 14:16 |
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caroline |
anybody else want to share what they've done? |
| 14:16 |
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cait |
I've rewritten patron import a bit and updated it - i think it needs to be merged still |
| 14:17 |
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cait |
and i've split up another chapter on LeeJ's request |
| 14:17 |
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caroline |
yes, I'm looking at the merge requests right now |
| 14:17 |
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caroline |
#link https://gitlab.com/koha-commun[…]al/merge_requests |
| 14:17 |
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caroline |
I see ashimema has been active too |
| 14:17 |
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cait |
https://tree.taiga.io/project/[…]ocs-1805/task/440 |
| 14:18 |
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ashimema |
not all that recently.. but I am trying to set an example by submitting a docs patch along with any developments we submit of late |
| 14:18 |
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cait |
ashimema++ |
| 14:18 |
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caroline |
cool! ashimema++ |
| 14:19 |
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caroline |
Joubu has also been adding issues to gitlab |
| 14:20 |
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caroline |
maybe we can talk about this in the next topic |
| 14:20 |
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caroline |
#topic Workflows |
| 14:20 |
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|
Topic for #koha is now Workflows (Meeting topic: Documentation IRC meeting 14 August 2018) |
| 14:21 |
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caroline |
Who added the https://wiki.koha-community.or[…]g_the_Koha_Manual to the section? |
| 14:21 |
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cait |
hm? |
| 14:21 |
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cait |
sorry, to which section? |
| 14:21 |
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cait |
I wrote some of the page |
| 14:21 |
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caroline |
There is a bullet point in the Workflow topic about Editing the manual |
| 14:21 |
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cait |
aah |
| 14:22 |
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caroline |
I'm guessing someone wanted to talk about it |
| 14:22 |
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cait |
i think it might have carried over |
| 14:22 |
|
cait |
from last meetings |
| 14:22 |
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ashimema |
davidnind by the looks |
| 14:23 |
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cait |
i think it was just there when he added the page from the last one |
| 14:23 |
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cait |
but maybe a workflow question would be where to encourage people to add new issues |
| 14:23 |
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cait |
not all people have taiga accoutns |
| 14:23 |
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caroline |
I don't know if I did that since the last meeting or before, but I added a section to that wiki page about working in a local repository |
| 14:23 |
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cait |
shoudl we encourage using the issues on gitlab too or better not? we also have a keyword in bugzilla |
| 14:23 |
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cait |
and a module |
| 14:23 |
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cait |
caroline++ again for that :) |
| 14:24 |
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caroline |
I don't know if I'm being too anal, but I have a feeling we are dispersing the tasks |
| 14:25 |
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caroline |
We have a framapad too, in addition to gitlab issues and taiga |
| 14:25 |
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cait |
disperse? |
| 14:25 |
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ashimema |
mmm.. |
| 14:25 |
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ashimema |
I felt that.. there's too many places this stuff lives.. |
| 14:25 |
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cait |
ah yes, sorry, had to look up the word :) |
| 14:25 |
|
cait |
that's my feeling too, too many entry points |
| 14:25 |
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ashimema |
It's really hard to know where to look |
| 14:25 |
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cait |
i think maybe we could kill the framapad |
| 14:26 |
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cait |
i used that before taiga was introduced |
| 14:26 |
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caroline |
Could we maybe add a footer in the manual saying that if readers see errors or something that is missing they should file a bug in bugzilla? |
| 14:27 |
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ashimema |
do you guys use the WIP flag in your merge requests |
| 14:27 |
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cait |
not sure how the footer works, but we could definitely put something in the beginning of the manual |
| 14:27 |
|
georgew |
If we got rid of the framapad, I'd be in favor of caroline's suggestion about filing a bug in bugzilla |
| 14:27 |
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cait |
yes, i think that makes most sense |
| 14:27 |
|
cait |
encouraging people to use bugzilla is good and registration is easy |
| 14:28 |
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georgew |
I come to these meetings mostly so I can tell the people in koh-US what's going on and one of the things I like about the Framapad is that it's easy |
| 14:28 |
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ashimema |
to date I've used it to highlight that my submission is awaiting the bug being pushed from bugzilla before it makes sense to go into the manual (adding WIP at the beggining of the merge request name prevent an early merge) |
| 14:28 |
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caroline |
on the other hand, the framapad is easy and no registration is needed |
| 14:28 |
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georgew |
But, I've never seen anyone that I've encouraged to use it actually use it. |
| 14:28 |
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caroline |
georgew: lol! |
| 14:29 |
|
caroline |
do we have an email address where people who don't have bugzilla account could just send us a quick email? |
| 14:29 |
|
cait |
looking at it.... we should at least clean it up |
| 14:29 |
|
cait |
there is a list |
| 14:29 |
|
cait |
koha-docs i think, sec |
| 14:30 |
|
cait |
i didn't have power of that in the beginning, but sent LeeJ the password when handing over |
| 14:30 |
|
cait |
http://lists.koha-community.or[…]istinfo/koha-docs |
| 14:30 |
|
cait |
so we have admin there and it should now work as the other lists (I hope) |
| 14:30 |
|
cait |
but no public archives it appears hm |
| 14:31 |
|
cait |
maybe requires someone to look over the config |
| 14:31 |
|
cait |
so we got: framapad, bugzilla, gitlab-issues, taiga and mailing list... |
| 14:31 |
|
caroline |
Is there a default assignee for documentation bugs on bugzilla? |
| 14:31 |
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georgew |
that's too many |
| 14:32 |
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cait |
if we keep the framapad I suggest cleaning - and maybe discourage use of gitlab-issues? |
| 14:32 |
|
georgew |
is there a way to connect gitlab issues and taiga? |
| 14:32 |
|
cait |
i am not sure |
| 14:33 |
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caroline |
There is an integration with gitlab |
| 14:33 |
|
* ashimema |
likes gtlab issues + bugzilla.. no idea what going on in taiga or framapad |
| 14:33 |
|
ashimema |
https://tree.taiga.io/support/[…]tlab-integration/ |
| 14:34 |
|
caroline |
I like taiga more than bugzilla because I find it easier to use, but maybe that's just because I use it more |
| 14:34 |
|
caroline |
and also, it's prettier! :) |
| 14:35 |
|
caroline |
I know you devs don't worry about pretty, but it's important! ;) |
| 14:35 |
|
cait |
hehe |
| 14:35 |
|
cait |
i think it could still be useful as an internal tool for core docs team |
| 14:35 |
|
* ashimema |
isn't a fan of bugzilla.. but it's what the community have been using for dev for ever |
| 14:36 |
|
caroline |
so we keep bugzilla for sure since it's core to koha |
| 14:36 |
|
* ashimema |
likes pretty.. and functional |
| 14:36 |
|
bag |
bug 14697 |
| 14:36 |
|
cait |
we also have the release notes there and need to refer to it, so i think it makes sense |
| 14:36 |
|
huginn` |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=14697 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, kyle.m.hall, NEW , Extend and enhance "Claims returned" lost status |
| 14:36 |
|
caroline |
we still have taiga, framapad, gitlab issues and mailing list |
| 14:37 |
|
bag |
bug 20210 |
| 14:37 |
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huginn` |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=20210 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jesse, NEW , Claimed Return |
| 14:37 |
|
cait |
I advertised the mailing list, but if I didn't miss anything, it's not really been used |
| 14:37 |
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georgew |
I'm reading the gitlab integration and it looks like if we integrate the two, gitlab issues will get pushed to taiga |
| 14:37 |
|
cait |
so maybe we can just ignore it for now |
| 14:37 |
|
caroline |
I haven't seen anything in the mailing list for a while |
| 14:37 |
|
cait |
or we could have it killed |
| 14:37 |
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georgew |
so if we do that, discouraging gitlab issues stops being a problem |
| 14:38 |
|
caroline |
maybe ppl use the main mailing list for questions relating to the manual |
| 14:38 |
|
cait |
it's low maint for us right now... so it hink keeping it is not an issue |
| 14:38 |
|
caroline |
ok |
| 14:39 |
|
caroline |
framapad? |
| 14:39 |
|
cait |
the framapad needs someone to look at it regularly |
| 14:39 |
|
cait |
that's more an issue i think |
| 14:39 |
|
cait |
mail pushes into your inbox, no need to think about it (mailing list) |
| 14:39 |
|
caroline |
do we know if there are any changes to framapad recently? |
| 14:39 |
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cait |
georgew: do you think registration for bugzilla would be too much of a hurdle if there was no framapad? |
| 14:39 |
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cait |
i think it has a time line |
| 14:39 |
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georgew |
no, I don't think that's a problem at all |
| 14:39 |
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cait |
we could always save a last version too |
| 14:40 |
|
caroline |
I see that a lot has been added to taiga already |
| 14:41 |
|
caroline |
I could go through and add the rest and then delete it |
| 14:41 |
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georgew |
the biggest barrier for end users is, when they have a problem, they don't know what to do to solve the problem - they don't know who to contact or how to contact them |
| 14:41 |
|
cait |
+1 |
| 14:41 |
|
cait |
if you can't delete - put a big note to use bugzilla |
| 14:41 |
|
cait |
:) |
| 14:41 |
|
cait |
and delete from wiki |
| 14:41 |
|
caroline |
that's what I think too that's why I was proposing to add a note to the manuel |
| 14:41 |
|
caroline |
*manual |
| 14:41 |
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georgew |
that's why having too many avenues for contact is a bigger problem than having too few |
| 14:42 |
|
cait |
so maybe just tell them: manual - make a new bug with module "Documentation" |
| 14:42 |
|
caroline |
#action caroline will go through the framapad and add what needs to be added to taiga and then either close it or send ppl over to bugzilla |
| 14:42 |
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georgew |
yes. that's simple enough |
| 14:43 |
|
georgew |
for my own libraries, I just tell them to tell me |
| 14:43 |
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caroline |
we could add a section to the manual on how to file a bug for the manual XD |
| 14:43 |
|
georgew |
and some of them actually do that |
| 14:43 |
|
cait |
so we agree recommended point of entry is bugzilla? then we could add it as #agreed |
| 14:43 |
|
cait |
caroline: +1 |
| 14:44 |
|
caroline |
#agreed the recommended point of entry for documentation issues is bugzilla (module Documentation) |
| 14:44 |
|
cait |
#idea Add a section to the manual on how to file a bug for the manual |
| 14:44 |
|
georgew |
cait: +1 |
| 14:44 |
|
caroline |
it was a joke but ok! :) |
| 14:44 |
|
cait |
no, i like it :) |
| 14:45 |
|
caroline |
gitlab issues? Joubu seems to use it more? |
| 14:46 |
|
caroline |
Joubu what are the advantages of this vs the other methods? |
| 14:46 |
|
caroline |
(is he still here?) |
| 14:46 |
|
Joubu |
as we moved our sideprojects to gitlab it would make sense to use gitlab |
| 14:46 |
|
Joubu |
given the numbers of contributors it should not be a problem anyway |
| 14:47 |
|
cait |
Joubu: the contribs here are librarians |
| 14:47 |
|
cait |
for filing issues |
| 14:47 |
|
cait |
i think gitlab might be too scary |
| 14:47 |
|
cait |
also then they need to differentiate - manual goes to gitlab, others go to bugzilla |
| 14:48 |
|
Joubu |
I would just say "use whichever it better for you" :) |
| 14:48 |
|
cait |
maybe as gitlab is not so much used, postpone and see? |
| 14:48 |
|
caroline |
I think we agreed that bugzilla is for librarians/end users |
| 14:48 |
|
cait |
yep |
| 14:48 |
|
georgew |
yes |
| 14:48 |
|
caroline |
the rest is more of a workflow question |
| 14:48 |
|
caroline |
for us |
| 14:49 |
|
cait |
i took careof the only content issueon gitlab |
| 14:49 |
|
cait |
the others are for how the manual works/is generated |
| 14:49 |
|
caroline |
ok good to know |
| 14:50 |
|
cait |
#link https://gitlab.com/koha-commun[…]oha-manual/issues |
| 14:50 |
|
caroline |
so we keep bugzilla for end users, taiga for us, gitlab issues for manual generation |
| 14:50 |
|
caroline |
would that make sense? |
| 14:51 |
|
cait |
we can try it out :) |
| 14:51 |
|
caroline |
kill framapad and status quo on the mailing list |
| 14:51 |
|
caroline |
#info we keep bugzilla for end users, taiga for us, gitlab issues for manual generation |
| 14:51 |
|
caroline |
#info kill framapad and status quo on the mailing list |
| 14:51 |
|
georgew |
sounds awesome |
| 14:51 |
|
caroline |
right, anything else on this topic? |
| 14:52 |
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cait |
nope, just that i need to leave soon |
| 14:52 |
|
caroline |
#topic Next steps |
| 14:52 |
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|
Topic for #koha is now Next steps (Meeting topic: Documentation IRC meeting 14 August 2018) |
| 14:52 |
|
caroline |
We'll go faster |
| 14:52 |
|
caroline |
There was a discussion point about Translation? |
| 14:52 |
|
caroline |
anybody want to comment? |
| 14:53 |
|
caroline |
we can also keep it for next time when LeeJ and/or davidnind are here |
| 14:54 |
|
cait |
i think also a standing topic |
| 14:54 |
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ashimema |
was it translation that was holding back bug 19817 in part? |
| 14:54 |
|
cait |
could postpone to next meeting |
| 14:54 |
|
huginn` |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=19817 new feature, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Needs Signoff , Merge local and online documentations |
| 14:54 |
|
cait |
ashimema: it's solved |
| 14:54 |
|
cait |
translations work now |
| 14:54 |
|
caroline |
#info Translation discussion is postponed to next meeting |
| 14:54 |
|
caroline |
#topic Set time of next meeting |
| 14:54 |
|
|
Topic for #koha is now Set time of next meeting (Meeting topic: Documentation IRC meeting 14 August 2018) |
| 14:54 |
|
cait |
#link https://koha-community.org/documentation/ Translated 18.05 manuals from Sphinx |
| 14:55 |
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cait |
just don't look at the German one - we didn't get very far yet |
| 14:55 |
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caroline |
There is already a general meeting on Sept 5 |
| 14:55 |
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ashimema |
we need a signoff and qa on that bug.. I'm overloading myself with bugs at the minute already.. but I do feel that one should go into master sooner rather than later again |
| 14:55 |
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cait |
very true |
| 14:56 |
|
cait |
bit the same for me right now :( |
| 14:56 |
|
cait |
i could try and do QA |
| 14:56 |
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caroline |
#info bug 19817 need signoff and qa |
| 14:57 |
|
cait |
move on? |
| 14:57 |
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caroline |
is everyone ok for a meeting sept 4? or after kohacon? |
| 14:57 |
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cait |
sept 4 would work for me |
| 14:58 |
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georgew |
september 4 is good here |
| 14:58 |
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caroline |
what time are we at in the rotation? |
| 14:58 |
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| 14:59 |
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caroline |
14UTC is Europe and America only |
| 14:59 |
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* Joubu |
did not pay ashimema to bring attention on 19817 |
| 14:59 |
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cait |
meeting before this was 21 utc |
| 14:59 |
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caroline |
we should do one where NZ is present |
| 14:59 |
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cait |
i thnk that's 7 am there |
| 14:59 |
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* ashimema |
may have had to probe Joubu to remind him of the bug number though ;) |
| 14:59 |
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cait |
but my calc might be totall yof |
| 14:59 |
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cait |
off |
| 15:00 |
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cait |
oh yes it is |
| 15:00 |
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cait |
21 shoudlwork for nz |
| 15:00 |
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cait |
late in europe - 11pc |
| 15:00 |
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cait |
pm |
| 15:00 |
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caroline |
ok so 21UTC on sept 4? |
| 15:00 |
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ashimema |
:+1: |
| 15:00 |
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cait |
+1 |
| 15:00 |
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georgew |
+1 |
| 15:01 |
|
caroline |
#info Next meeting: 4 september 2019, 21 UTC |
| 15:01 |
|
caroline |
#endmeeting |
| 15:01 |
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Topic for #koha is now Welcome to #koha this channel is for discussion of the Koha project and software http://koha-community.org |
| 15:01 |
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huginn` |
Meeting ended Tue Aug 14 15:01:21 2018 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) |
| 15:01 |
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huginn` |
Minutes: http://meetings.koha-community[…]-08-14-14.02.html |
| 15:01 |
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huginn` |
Minutes (text): http://meetings.koha-community[…]8-08-14-14.02.txt |
| 15:01 |
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huginn` |
Log: http://meetings.koha-community[…]14-14.02.log.html |
| 15:01 |
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caroline |
phew! thanks everyone! |
| 15:01 |
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cait |
caroline++ thx for chairing! |
| 15:01 |
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* cait |
runs off |
| 15:01 |
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caroline |
that was not stressful at all |
| 15:02 |
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lucyvh |
thx caroline |
| 15:02 |
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oleonard |
ashimema: I'm curious, have you used another open source bug tracker that you prefer over Bugzilla? |
| 15:02 |
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Joubu |
oleonard: you forget the keyword "easy to use" |
| 15:03 |
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ashimema |
it's not so much the bugtracker I don't like.. it's how unintegrated it is.. |
| 15:03 |
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ashimema |
I like the review processes that are available in gitlab and github |
| 15:03 |
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ashimema |
and it could be prettier ;) |
| 15:03 |
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caroline |
:D |
| 15:03 |
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ashimema |
I'm open to suggestions.. but I think getting community to move off bugzilla would be a big battle ;) |
| 15:03 |
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caroline |
definitely! |
| 15:09 |
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caroline |
ok, I just realized that I set the next meeting to september 2019... |
| 15:10 |
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caroline |
I guess I can change it directly on the wiki? |
| 15:11 |
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oleonard |
I don't think the wiki can be changed?? Just have to wait until 2019 I guess!! |
| 15:12 |
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cait |
we could just have another then :) |
| 15:12 |
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cait |
or you can move ti, ubt not delete it i think |
| 15:12 |
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reiveune |
bye |
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| 15:15 |
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caroline |
Do you think I can start the 2019 meeting, set a next meeting for sept 2018 and end it again? |
| 15:18 |
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ashimema |
pass |
| 15:20 |
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Joubu |
caroline: I will deal with it |
| 15:21 |
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caroline |
Joubu: merci! |
| 15:22 |
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Joubu |
oleonard: Is bug 13618 signed-off finally? |
| 15:22 |
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huginn` |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=13618 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Needs Signoff , Prevent XSS in the Staff Client and the OPAC |
| 15:22 |
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oleonard |
Oh yeah I forgot to add a comment |
| 15:27 |
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cait |
nice comment .) |
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tuxayo |
ashimema: I wouldn't mind moving to GitLab for example ;) |
| 15:27 |
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tuxayo |
(for merge requests, editing comments, better review UI, one character patches doable in the web UI, tells if the merge request non longer applies) |
| 15:29 |
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ashimema |
totally agree with pretty much every point you said there tuxayo ;) |
| 15:40 |
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Joubu |
199 files changed, 1 insertion(+), 7624 deletions(-) |
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Joubu |
^ best patch ever |
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Joubu |
791 files changed, 11455 insertions(+), 11113 deletions(-) |
| 15:41 |
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Joubu |
^ worst patch ever |
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* ashimema |
guesses those are two patches that aim the achieve the same thing too? |
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* Freddy_Enrique |
starts getting white eyes |
| 15:43 |
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Joubu |
nope, first is 19817 (remove /help/*.tt), second is 13618 (add html filters to all variables in .tt) |
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ashimema |
haha.. fair enough |
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* ashimema |
grabs a stiff drink before embarking on qa'ing 13618 |
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* tuxayo |
sent a long message: < https://matrix.org/_matrix/med[…]scrtMxzQZqOhxscur > |
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ashimema |
haha |
| 15:46 |
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ashimema |
gitlab still has some growing pains in my opinion.. but it certainly seems to be a really good contender |
| 15:46 |
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Joubu |
tuxayo: you can vote for issues on bugzilla |
| 15:46 |
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ashimema |
biblibre have switched from gitlab to gitea if i'm remembering correctly.. I've not looked at that as an alternative myself yet |
| 15:47 |
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tuxayo |
Interesting that the whole Gnome project did the same switch two month ago. Anyway, I noted some stuff here: https://wiki.koha-community.or[…]ugzilla_vs_GitLab |
| 15:48 |
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tuxayo |
Joubu: really? That's a good news. Where is it in the UI? |
| 15:48 |
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Joubu |
tuxayo: for the notif you can modify it in your preferences, there is a "Ignore Bugs" input (yeah that's weird I agree) |
| 15:49 |
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Joubu |
tuxayo: Importance: |
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Joubu |
(vote) |
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tuxayo |
"Ignore Bugs" Thanks!!! <3 |
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tuxayo |
Joubu++ |
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tuxayo |
ashimema: we had an old version. (still have, switch is this week ^^) We are not using much of the features that makes the difference between GitLab and Gitea. |
| 15:51 |
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tuxayo |
Issue tracking and reviews aren't done there |
| 15:51 |
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ashimema |
interesting |
| 15:52 |
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ashimema |
awesome work adding a wiki page to document the comparison |
| 15:55 |
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tuxayo |
Joubu: aside that it's not much visible, the voting system in Bugzilla is interesting. Thanks again :) |
| 15:58 |
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Joubu |
tuxayo: well the problem is that nobody uses it :) |
| 15:58 |
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ashimema |
hmm.. related issues is a gitlab paid for option only |
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tuxayo |
Joubu: hi hi, that's what I more or less wrote in my notes ^^ https://wiki.koha-community.or[…]21741&oldid=21740 |
| 16:01 |
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Joubu |
ashimema: hum, sure? https://gitlab.com/help/user/p[…]es/related_issues |
| 16:01 |
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Joubu |
ashimema: https://gitlab.com/koha-commun[…]devbox/issues/257 there is a "Related issues" entry |
| 16:02 |
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ashimema |
so there is |
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tuxayo |
Joubu: GitLab starter is non-libre right? |
| 16:02 |
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ashimema |
hmm |
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ashimema |
feels that way |
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ashimema |
gitlab-ce is what I was looking for |
| 16:03 |
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ashimema |
https://about.gitlab.com/pricing/ |
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tuxayo |
ashimema: oh this is bad. Well if it's was in the libre version, if on needs to pay on the GitLab.com instance, that would be fine |
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tuxayo |
(reply about related issues) |
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ashimema |
Bronze gitlab SaaS by the looks |
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Joubu |
indeed |
| 16:07 |
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ashimema |
these companies have to make money somehow.. but it is a tad annoying when something you want is missing |
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tuxayo |
If at least GitLab were trying to crowfund the migration of features to the libre version. |
| 16:07 |
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tuxayo |
With a bounty system for example. Or just setup a recurring donation system with the goal of making less and less non-libre features. |
| 16:07 |
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tuxayo |
It seems that can be attributed to the fact that they are VC funded. |
| 16:07 |
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tuxayo |
Because huge return on investment aren't compatible with the above business models :( |
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tuxayo |
ashimema: «these companies have to make money somehow» Indeed libre software should be professionalized as much as possible. (as well as other respectable stuff that too often are done has nonpaid jobs) That's what pay our rents ^^ while not having an abusable power over users. |
| 16:13 |
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tuxayo |
It feels wrong that they are not trying to parallely have more "sane" business models. |
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ashimema |
https://about.gitlab.com/open-source/ |
| 16:13 |
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ashimema |
is interesting though |
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* ashimema |
has to go cook tea for the family |
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tuxayo |
ashimema: Indeed, though that's switching to non-free software and locking oneselves to on instance of that software |
| 16:15 |
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tuxayo |
Similar to GitHub. |
| 16:16 |
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tuxayo |
cook tea? |
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tcohen |
what's the problem with gitlab? |
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tuxayo |
ashimema: anyway, you are english, that just my french nonknowing about tea ^^ |
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tuxayo |
tcohen: Their open core business model without perpectives of improvements of the said model. (linking issues not in the libre version e.g.) |
| 16:19 |
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tuxayo |
And ending up using the non-libre version could be a problem in inself. |
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ashimema |
Haha, no worries |
| 16:20 |
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ashimema |
Indeed.. all the reasons we didn't go GitHub apply at that point |
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ashimema |
Right.. I'll keep watching this conversation in the background |
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tuxayo |
It's still likely that it's be the best toolset out there, so not prohibitive I my current opinion. |
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tuxayo |
(though frustrating) |
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Joubu |
ashimema: both gitlab/k-c/koha gitlab/joubu/koha say "updating" both don't... |
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Joubu |
but* |
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ashimema |
😑 |
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oleonard |
What controls whether an item is removed from a patron's account when it is marked lost? |
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caroline |
I thought marking it as lost (manually) removed it? |
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oleonard |
I have a report from a librarian that it isn't happening here. I'll have to dirty up my account some more to confirm I guess. |
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caroline |
oh noes! |
| 16:41 |
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oleonard |
Oh I guess the librarian was doing something else wrong, who knows what. |
| 16:41 |
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oleonard |
It works as expected. |
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Joubu |
MarkLostItemsAsReturned |
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cait |
oleonard: also there is a difference still - marking from item form vs. marking from item tab |
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cait |
if you mark in cataloguing it's not removed |
| 16:44 |
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cait |
will be fixed |
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cait |
with the pref |
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Freddy_Enrique |
:caroline you there? |
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Freddy_Enrique |
caroline: you there? |
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tuxayo |
bug 20136 |
| 17:22 |
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huginn` |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=20136 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, kyle, In Discussion , Test Bug |
| 17:24 |
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tuxayo |
Ho, I just got two 504 Gateway Time-out on bugzilla. And it seems that I'm not the only one. (bot didn't work) |
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tuxayo |
ok, it workd now |
| 17:26 |
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tuxayo |
bug 20136 |
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caroline |
Freddy_Enrique: I'm back |
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caroline |
Sorry I was out to lunch |
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Freddy_Enrique |
:) nice! |
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Freddy_Enrique |
uhm, I've managed to install Pidgin |
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Freddy_Enrique |
but I'm no quite sure how to use it |
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Freddy_Enrique |
I just wanna have this conversation using this irc client |
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cait |
have you added an account already for irc? |
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cait |
username: your user name, server: irc.oftc.net add that |
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cait |
then go to buddies > join a hcat |
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cait |
chat |
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cait |
hm or better add chat |
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cait |
select your irc account on top |
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cait |
channel #koha |
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cait |
save |
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cait |
then double click it |
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cait |
you can also check the automatically join when account connects |
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cait |
that would always catapult you right into #koha when you open pidgin |
| 17:48 |
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Freddy_Enrique |
let see... |
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Freddy_Enrique |
https://snag.gy/eWHCX1.jpg |
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cait |
you got the wrong server |
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cait |
we are no longer at freenode :) |
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cait |
irc.oftc.net |
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Freddy_Enrique |
uhmm.... you are right. Cause this is waht I got : https://snag.gy/ZvCRDq.jpg |
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cait |
yeah the channel still exists :) |
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cait |
just edit your account again |
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cait |
and change the server setting |
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cait |
hello :) |
| 17:52 |
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Freddy_Enrique1 |
Can I make the plus simbol much bigger for you? Thanks!!! |
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Freddy_Enrique1 |
cait++ |
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cait |
hehe helping is fun :) |
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cait |
you can turn off/on sounds and the logging, if you look at the settings |
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cait |
not sure if logs are turned on by default |
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Freddy_Enrique1 |
Great, gonna take my time to play with this tool :) |
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cait |
if you've used add chat it will now always show koha in your buddy list |
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oleonard-away |
If anyone is still around... |
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oleonard |
I keep getting this error, but sporadically: |
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oleonard |
Undefined subroutine &C4::Circulation::getnextacctno called at /home/vagrant/kohaclone/C4/Circulation.pm line 3191. |
| 18:00 |
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cait |
hm interesting |
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cait |
tcohen maybe? |
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tcohen |
? |
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tcohen |
ah |
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tcohen |
oleonard: bug khall about bug 15732 |
| 18:04 |
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huginn` |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=15732 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , Remove accountno column from accountlines |
| 18:09 |
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Joubu |
oleonard: do you have steps to recreate? It sounds like an export problem |
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oleonard |
Well it's not as sporadic as I thought... I can't seem to check out without getting it |
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oleonard |
I can't help but suspect that my db is messed up somehow from the cruft of testing |
| 18:15 |
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Joubu |
fuck |
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Joubu |
they did the screenshots, in Arabic... |
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oleonard |
Shouldn't they be? |
| 18:17 |
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Joubu |
oleonard: reading the code I'd say you renew an item with a rental charge |
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Joubu |
oleonard: yes sure, but doing it for everybody (all languages) keeping them up-to-date for every versions could have been much better ;) |
| 18:19 |
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caroline |
hm... We didn't talk about workflow with bugzilla concerning the manual... I made a merge request with changes for bug 16189 but now what do I do with the bug in bugzilla? |
| 18:19 |
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huginn` |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=16189 minor, P5 - low, ---, chris, NEW , Add an exception to SMS via email documentation in the Koha manual |
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oleonard |
Joubu: Indeed I was checking out an item with a rental charge. |
| 18:21 |
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oleonard |
That must be what made it sporadic, different item types |
| 18:21 |
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ccpla |
Not sure if here's a good place to ask, but... anyone happen to know if there's a straightforward-ish way to filter a catalog search based on a patron's circulation history? Trying to filter for stuff they've already checked out before. |
| 18:21 |
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ashimema |
Hehe, who did screenshots in arabic |
| 18:24 |
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Joubu |
ashimema: see ML |
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oleonard |
ashimema: Someone who made a manual in Arabic ;) |
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Joubu |
ccpla: nope, but there is a "Circulation history" tab when viewing a patron's card |
| 18:27 |
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ccpla |
Ah, was afraid of that, heh. Manual checking's much more time intensive :P Thanks, though. Confirmation saves effort looking. |
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Joubu |
ccpla: note that could be implemented quite easily, adding a link to the search script with the list of biblionumbers |
| 18:31 |
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cait |
caroline: maybe just but a link to the merge request.... and resolved Moved |
| 18:31 |
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cait |
? |
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Joubu |
oleonard: fyi I do not recreate, but let me know if you have a step by step plan to recreate the problem |
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ccpla |
Joubu: Huh. Is that something that could be done on our end? I'm just a branch worker and pretty close to code illiterate to boot, so not entirely sure if I'd have access to anything necessary to manage it. |
| 18:35 |
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oleonard |
ccpla: Never trust a developer who says something could be implemented "quite easily" ;) |
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Joubu |
nope you would need to hack the code |
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cait |
ccpla: maybe a report could fit your needs? |
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cait |
ah... sorry misread |
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cait |
not for statistics, but to recommend something they didn't already have? |
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ccpla |
Aye, that. And ah, yeah, never mind if I'm capable of it trying to mess with the code would probably cause our IT folks to skin me :P |
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ccpla |
Could try a report, though. It'd be a nice feature at some point. |
| 18:39 |
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ccpla |
Thanks for the help, folks! |
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Joubu |
ccpla: maybe the pref CheckPrevCheckout could fit your needs |
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Joubu |
ashimema: I have added 2 new patches to 13618, we have tests now |
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ccpla |
Will check, thanks |
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cait |
bye all |
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ashimema |
Awesome Joubu |
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Freddy_Enrique1 |
Bye cait |
| 18:49 |
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* ashimema |
is now done on family duties... Time to chill in front of TV .. or time to get back to QA this crazy massive bug... Hmmmm |
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* ashimema |
has ðŸº.. |
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bag |
beer! |
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Joubu |
bag: too early for you! |
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bag |
9 minutes!!! |
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Joubu |
9 minutes before 11am :) |
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oleonard |
ðŸ¸ðŸ¸ðŸ¸ lunch? |
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Freddy_Enrique1 |
what the.... what time is it over there Joubu? |
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Joubu |
here, 4pm :) |
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oleonard |
Everyone knows Joubu lives in Alaska! UTC -8 |
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Joubu |
well yes, temperature feels like I am in Alaska |
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oleonard |
@wunder Anchorage |
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huginn` |
oleonard: Anchorage, AK :: Overcast :: 57F/14C | Tuesday: Cloudy skies with periods of rain this afternoon. High near 60F. Winds SSW at 10 to 15 mph. Chance of rain 60%. Tuesday Night: Mainly cloudy. Low 51F. Winds S at 5 to 10 mph. |
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oleonard |
@wunder Joubu |
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huginn` |
oleonard: Error: I could not find a valid location for: Joubu |
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Joubu |
@wunder Buenos Aires, Argentina |
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huginn` |
Joubu: Buenos Aires, Argentina :: Clear :: 63F/17C | Tuesday: Mainly clear. Lows overnight in the mid 40s. Tuesday Night: Clear skies. Low 44F. Winds SSW at 5 to 10 mph. |
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Joubu |
really? |
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Joubu |
I should go for a walk then! |
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Freddy_Enrique1 |
my alt + 64 doesnt work in pidgit XD |
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Joubu |
oleonard: seen that already? https://screenshots.firefox.co[…]G/pro.kohadev.org |
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oleonard |
No, but I have seen some other minor CSS issues which I assume are caused by the SCSS switch |
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oleonard |
Bye all |
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Joubu |
bug 21222 |
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huginn` |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=21222 critical, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Needs Signoff , Patron's creation is broken |
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Freddy_Enrique1 |
Well guys, see ya tomorrow :) |
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Joubu |
@later tell oleonard see bug 21223 - any ideas how it could have happened? How can we fix other issues? (I am sure there are more) |
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huginn` |
Joubu: The operation succeeded. |
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Joubu |
@later tell oleopard see bug 21223 - any ideas how it could have happened? How can we fix other issues? (I am sure there are more) |
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huginn` |
Joubu: The operation succeeded. |
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Joubu |
just in case |
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Joubu |
wahanui: whatsup? |
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wahanui |
joubu: bugger all, i dunno |
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Joubu |
:-/ |
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caroline |
wahanui: had fun on your vacation? |
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wahanui |
caroline: i haven't a clue |
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caroline |
poor thing |
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caroline |
that must have been some vacation if you can't remember ;) |
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ashimema |
indeed |
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caroline |
bye y'all! |
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Veronica |
help I do not work the reservation alerts ami mail and configure all emailLibrarianWhenHoldIsPlaced I have it in allow, thanks |
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Veronica |
help I do not work the reservation alerts ami mail and configure all emailLibrarianWhenHoldIsPlaced I have it in allow, thanks |
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dj |
hey guys im having a bit of trouble with the rest api |
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dj |
im able to use it with no issues on my devbox which is at master but not on a koha 18.05.02 box with debian packages |
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dj |
its acting like it doesnt exist and returns 404 errors when i try to hit the endpoints |
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dj |
@tcohen you come highly recommended from @BobB for this kind of thing |
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huginn` |
dj: I'll give you the answer just as soon as RDA is ready |
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dj |
cheers @huginn` |
