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hi, I'm running koha 17.11 and fines wouldn't calculate |
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wozy |
I ran the script: /usr/share/koha/bin/cronjobs/fines.pl |
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I have a problem running fine.pl can someone pleaes help out? |
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i get this error after running /usr/share/koha/bin/cronjobs/fines.pl |
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unable to locate Koha configuration file koha-conf.xml at /usr/share/koha/lib/C4/Context.pm line 243. |
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hi #koha |
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tuxayo |
Ho I just found out that version 3 of Mailman stops storing the passwords in plain text! https://wiki.list.org/DOC/How%[…]s%20completely%3F |
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tuxayo |
Finally! Because that might not even be legal now with the GDPR right? |
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tuxayo |
Koha-Pink? What is that?! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ABtfre94Xj0 |
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andreashm |
tuxayo: haha |
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tuxayo |
I watched it 3 times and I still don't get it. |
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* tuxayo |
watches a fourth time |
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calire |
babymetal are better ;) |
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tuxayo |
calire: ? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WIKqgE4BwAY |
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tuxayo |
Indeed I prefer their music and choregraphy. |
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tuxayo |
Lacks pink and Koha though. |
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cait |
bye all |
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calire |
tuxayo yes |
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tuxayo |
Ho, we made cait run away with our "interesting videos" |
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andreashm |
=) |
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kidclamp |
hi wozy, do you have finesmode set to 'calcdulate and charge'? |
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kidclamp |
oops, i was scrolled bacl |
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ashimema |
oleonard around? |
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oleonard |
Hey gang |
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calire |
hi oleonard |
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huginn |
News from kohagit: Bug 21141: Handle non-existent itemnumbers in batch item modification/deletion <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]2f1df7445c6eeb4f9> |
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huginn |
News from kohagit: Bug 21154: Remove unused subs from C4::Serials <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]ee07b5120a5413ca5> |
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huginn |
News from kohagit: Bug 21148: Dropdowns styled by the Select2 plugin do not highlight missing required... <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]1963de1888d2ca05d> |
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huginn |
News from kohagit: Bug 21056: Add another flush later <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]81f735b8494d60f42> |
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huginn |
News from kohagit: Bug 21132: Highlight active filters on saved report page <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]9415057448496eb82> |
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huginn |
News from kohagit: Bug 21131: Remove the TinyMCE.isDirty() check that caused unexpected behaviour <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]ead37c92eac8179b2> |
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huginn |
News from kohagit: Bug 19291: Make breadcrumbs for OPAC search history consistent with other patron... <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]601666916287c8ec5> |
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huginn |
News from kohagit: Bug 20828: Step 4 of moremember is used for Housebound and additional attributes <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]62ffe3efe19ccc4f8> |
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huginn |
News from kohagit: Bug 21050: Fix datepickers on LabelItemSearch <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]cfde2e9be1cdcccef> |
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huginn |
News from kohagit: Bug 21056: Changing the logged in library can fail sporadically <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]cbdc2fb00f66f5485> |
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huginn |
News from kohagit: Bug 21035: Handle new lines when running reports <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]e329d72d065f4b1d9> |
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huginn |
News from kohagit: Bug 21033: Remove few warns in acqui/basket.pl <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]39146b59fa10c3ab3> |
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huginn |
News from kohagit: Bug 20660: Return date override affects debarments in AddReturn <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]36f8f4001157771b4> |
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huginn |
News from kohagit: Bug 20660: Test AddReturn with $return_date override <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]9ecbd9a3adba173fd> |
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huginn |
News from kohagit: Bug 20779: Style refresh for patron detail page <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]c2c3afe1b159ad5fa> |
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huginn |
News from kohagit: Bug 18586: Create module to mint RDF subject URIs <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]43545fba0803e6b99> |
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huginn |
News from kohagit: Bug 18635: Koha::Patron->guarantees() should return results alphabetically <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]9d88be23757df0ef5> |
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huginn |
News from kohagit: Bug 18635: Unit tests <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]7c508c32f75b09aa1> |
| 12:36 |
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andreashm |
oh, and I was just going to ask what was happening with bug 19469. |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=19469 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Passed QA , Add ability to split view of holds view on record by pickup library and/or itemtype |
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andreashm |
thanks ashimema! |
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jenkins |
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ashimema |
thank kidclamp, he just brought it to my attention ;) |
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jenkins |
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andreashm |
kidclamp++ |
| 12:40 |
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andreashm |
ashimema++ |
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* andreashm |
would love to see that bug move along. |
| 12:42 |
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andreashm |
obviously. =) |
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jenkins |
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ashimema |
woopie.. ptfs sandboxes are finally working again |
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andreashm |
great! |
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* ashimema |
does one last test before amending the maintanence notice on the community wiki |
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kohaputti |
would having a search endpoint in the REST api make any sense? |
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kohaputti |
you could search with keyword, field, whatever and would get back json of biblionumbers where the search matched |
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kohaputti |
And I know there is SRU already, but it doesn't work with elasticsearch |
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ashimema |
can you not just open the ES search endpoints to the public? |
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kohaputti |
ashimema, I don't know if it is good idea security wise |
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kohaputti |
also the elasticsearch query language is different from what koha users use. |
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eythian |
exposing ES to the public is a bad idea, e.g. hidden items, and people perhaps putting other things in ES alongside the biblio data. |
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ashimema |
fair enough |
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ashimema |
so what exactly would be be suggesting with a search endpoint |
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kohaputti |
ashimema, I would like to have the same results as a patron would get when searching in OPAC |
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ashimema |
SRU is well defined, well known and supported and has a solid search syntax worked out.. I'd advocate working on a SRU module that used the ES backend |
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kohaputti |
that way I could build a separate client software for koha, search, login, reservations,... |
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tcohen |
morning |
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ashimema |
but I'm not keen to impliment yet another home grown api for it personally |
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kohaputti |
ashimema, SRU that uses ES as backend sounds nice |
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ashimema |
is there not a plan for doing that in the long term ES plan somewhere? |
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ashimema |
all it needs is for someone to work on it ;) |
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kohaputti |
ashimema, I have not seen on wiki, should we write it down somewhere over there? (suggestions on which page are welcome) |
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ashimema |
I must have just heard it in passing somewhere.. kidclamp may know if theres more of a plan or anything to do it |
| 13:32 |
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ashimema |
or if anyone else has expressed interest yet and may work with you on it? |
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kidclamp |
yeah, we need some sort of filter to allow ES from the outside - it provides no security if you just open it (all records deleted!!!!) I don't know of any SRU plans or search endpoint, but both are good options to me |
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Nemo_bis |
ES needs some precautions to avoid privilege escalation |
| 13:36 |
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kohaputti |
so somebody has to built it, and it doesn't even have to be Koha related if I'm thinking this right (but then it would mean having a standard way of doing mapping for elasticsearch). |
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kohaputti |
Nemo_bis, you could probably have read-only replication node for elasticsearch that could be used as public endpoint |
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caroline |
Hello #koha! |
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oleonard |
Hi caroline we are all here but working super-hard on so many things |
| 13:50 |
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oleonard |
There is steam rising off of #koha from all the working. |
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magnuse |
there was also talk about using es for searching patrons, i think |
| 14:00 |
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oleonard |
There was such talk. |
| 14:01 |
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eythian |
yeah, I remember suggesting that when first exploring ES |
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Joubu |
well, there were patches yes, bug 17500 |
| 14:02 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=17500 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, In Discussion , Use Elasticsearch to search for patrons |
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* cait |
waves |
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magnuse |
Joubu++ |
| 14:32 |
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magnuse |
tjänare mirkh |
| 14:33 |
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oleonard |
Has anyone here tested Bug 19532 before? |
| 14:33 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=19532 new feature, P3, ---, aleisha, Needs Signoff , Recalls for Koha |
| 14:33 |
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oleonard |
I can't figure out how to make something "available" for recall. |
| 14:34 |
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magnuse |
there is no (easy) way to get rid of automatic left truncation for patron searches, right? (except for when you go to patrons and click on the [+]) |
| 14:34 |
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* ashimema |
wonders why you'd want to get right of left truncation... |
| 14:35 |
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Joubu |
magnuse: use * |
| 14:37 |
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magnuse |
ashimema: because when you are looking for Öberg you don't want all the people called Sjöberg? |
| 14:37 |
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ashimema |
Oh.. I see |
| 14:38 |
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magnuse |
Joubu: how should i use * to not truncate? |
| 14:40 |
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ashimema |
I think my brain thought of truncation meaning something different there |
| 14:41 |
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ashimema |
I would say 'Öberg' should match 'Öberg', 'Öberg' would match 'Sjöberg' and 'Öberg' would match 'Öbergly' |
| 14:42 |
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magnuse |
ashimema: missing something in the last sentence? |
| 14:42 |
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ashimema |
i bet that's just me getting technical terms confused though right |
| 14:43 |
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ashimema |
your right.. |
| 14:43 |
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ashimema |
and 'Öberg' should read 'Öberg*' |
| 14:43 |
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ashimema |
but I presume from your correcting me you understood what I was getting at |
| 14:44 |
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magnuse |
huh, is there something special about the ö? |
| 14:44 |
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ashimema |
I suppose it's 'phrase', 'word' or 'part of word' matching I'm thinking |
| 14:44 |
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ashimema |
pass |
| 14:44 |
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ashimema |
I was surprised you said searching 'Öberg' would match 'Sjöberg' |
| 14:44 |
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ashimema |
I wouldn't have expected it to.. |
| 14:45 |
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cait |
i thin left truncation was needed for double names |
| 14:45 |
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magnuse |
"öberg" gives me sjöberg, but "fjord" does not give me alefjord? |
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cait |
and maybe spanish names too? |
| 14:45 |
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ashimema |
i'd have expected you to need to search '*Öberg' for it to end up including 'Sjöberg' in the results |
| 14:45 |
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Joubu |
sorry, read the reverse, I missed "get rid of" :) |
| 14:46 |
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magnuse |
ah |
| 14:46 |
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magnuse |
cait: have you seen this with german names? for ö or ä? |
| 14:47 |
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magnuse |
i have set the collation for borrowers.surname to utf8_swedish_ci btw |
| 14:58 |
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magnuse |
forget that, now searching for "fjord" gives me "alefjord" |
| 14:59 |
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* magnuse |
is confused |
| 15:00 |
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cait |
we had no complaines |
| 15:00 |
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cait |
complains |
| 15:00 |
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cait |
complaints? |
| 15:01 |
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tcohen |
hola magnuse y cait |
| 15:01 |
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cait |
so far about the search, i haven't investigated it more closely |
| 15:01 |
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magnuse |
yeah, noone mentioned it to me before either |
| 15:01 |
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magnuse |
¡hola tcohen! |
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huginn |
News from kohagit: Bug 20427: (RM follow-up) Add compiled CSS <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]bb397c5a1e89bcfe2> |
| 15:25 |
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huginn |
News from kohagit: Bug 19474: (RM follow-up) Compiled css <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]4f0affabe671993e6> |
| 15:25 |
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huginn |
News from kohagit: Bug 20427: (follow-up) Bring SCSS up to date with latest LESS changes <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]8a1702164d5a3bf02> |
| 15:25 |
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huginn |
News from kohagit: Bug 21188: Convert return_date to a DateTime object <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]760ac0e626f952be5> |
| 15:25 |
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huginn |
News from kohagit: Bug 19474: (follow-up) Bring scss up to date with latest CSS changes <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]8d3750ded3dc2a518> |
| 15:25 |
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huginn |
News from kohagit: Bug 20427: Convert OPAC LESS to SCSS <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]4139525d79d8c0af5> |
| 15:25 |
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huginn |
News from kohagit: Bug 19474: Convert staff client CSS to SCSS <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]1b70c12d1c1beb0a4> |
| 15:25 |
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huginn |
News from kohagit: Bug 19474: (QA follow-up) Fix sass lint yaml configuration <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]37c6686e9a04a7cfc> |
| 15:27 |
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tcohen |
wooooooo |
| 15:27 |
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* oleonard |
dies |
| 15:28 |
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ashimema |
huh |
| 15:28 |
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cait |
noooo |
| 15:30 |
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kidclamp |
noo? |
| 15:30 |
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ashimema |
we don't want oleonard to die.. |
| 15:30 |
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ashimema |
we have too much still for him to do ;) |
| 15:31 |
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kidclamp |
oh, I thought you meant about the patches |
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oleonard |
Okay, yeah, I gotta stay alive to clean up whatever mess I've just inadvertently made |
| 15:32 |
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* oleonard |
is ever the optimist |
| 15:38 |
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tcohen |
do we need to add things to kohadevbox aliases for this? |
| 15:38 |
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tcohen |
we probably had this conversation already, but I'm getting old and forget things |
| 15:38 |
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tcohen |
:-P |
| 15:39 |
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oleonard |
tcohen: kohadevbox already installs node and npm, but now it needs yarn too |
| 15:39 |
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* ashimema |
dreads any bugfixes that fix CSS now.. backporting just got a whole lot more interesting |
| 15:39 |
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oleonard |
ashimema: I'd be happy to help |
| 15:40 |
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oleonard |
tcohen: LESS is gone now, so that alias and associated dependencies can go |
| 15:40 |
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ashimema |
hehe.. hopefully there won't be many that touch them.. but I will come knocking at your door should it not be obvious ;) |
| 15:41 |
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oleonard |
ashimema: Doubly okay if it's my actual door you're knocking on. Pop on by! |
| 15:41 |
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tcohen |
oleonard: point me to the wiki page explainin what is needeD? |
| 15:41 |
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kidclamp |
https://wiki.koha-community.or[…]staff_client_SCSS |
| 15:42 |
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ashimema |
hehe.. I'd like that |
| 15:42 |
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oleonard |
tcohen: I'll be updating that page to include information about the OPAC too |
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* tcohen |
adds to his always growing TODO list |
| 15:44 |
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ashimema |
todolists only ever grow tcohen.. didn't you know that.. they never shrink |
| 15:44 |
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ashimema |
;) |
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oleonard |
"I've really opened a can of worms," he thought, realizing with horror that the saying is probably horribly untranslatable. |
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reiveune |
bye |
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jenkins |
Project Koha_Master_D9 build #535: STILL UNSTABLE in 25 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]ha_Master_D9/535/ |
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jenkins |
Project Koha_Master_U18 build #25: STILL UNSTABLE in 24 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]ha_Master_U18/25/ |
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cait |
oleonard: pandora's box translates a little better |
| 15:57 |
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cait |
but what are we talking about? |
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oleonard |
Hoping that my SCSS patches don't create too many problems for tcohen and kohadevbox |
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tcohen |
hehe, I will only add yarn to the tool set |
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tcohen |
oleonard: https://gitlab.com/koha-commun[…]devbox/issues/265 |
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oleonard |
tcohen++ |
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cait |
oleonard++ tcohen++ |
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jenkins |
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oleonard |
https://wiki.koha-community.or[…]_and_staff_client |
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tcohen |
oleonard++ |
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Karen_ |
prevent other users from booking an item that is already booked, thanks. |
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Karen_ |
prevent other users from booking an item that is already booked, thanks |
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Karen_ |
prevent other users from booking if the registration is already booked by another, thanks |
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caroline |
Karen_: I don't think it's possible in Koha |
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oleonard |
Karen_: Prevent other users from placing a hold on an item which already has a hold on it? |
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caroline |
That's how I understood the question |
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oleonard |
If so, I agree with caroline. I don't know how you'd do that in Koha. |
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Karen_ |
Prevent other users from placing a hold on an item which already has a hold on it?Yes,Oleonard |
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caroline |
Other than prohibiting holds in the OPAC and controling each hold in the intranet to make sure there isn't another hold on it |
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caroline |
It can be labor intensive, but if there aren't that many holds, it could work |
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jenkins |
Project Koha_18.05_D8 build #39: SUCCESS in 21 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]Koha_18.05_D8/39/ |
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jenkins |
Project Koha_18.05_D9 build #40: SUCCESS in 23 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]Koha_18.05_D9/40/ |
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Shane-S |
So...I went from 17.05 to 18.05 and I have a plain HTML view...any clues.. http://library.npelem.com |
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caroline |
Shane-S: Oh, yeah I had that too. Let me try to remember how I fixed it |
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caroline |
It was somthing in the conf files I think |
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oleonard |
It's the new Apache rewrite rules isn't it? |
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caroline |
yes that's it |
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cait |
i think it is |
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cait |
we agree :) |
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cait |
who is lookign for the bug? |
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cait |
https://koha-community.org/koha-18-05-released/ > lok here for 'apache' |
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cait |
it's bug 12904 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=12904 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, kyle, RESOLVED FIXED, Force browser to load new JavaScript and CSS files after upgrade |
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Shane-S |
ty |
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jenkins |
Project Koha_18.05_U18 build #36: SUCCESS in 40 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]oha_18.05_U18/36/ |
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cait |
@wunder Konstanz |
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huginn |
cait: Error: Failed to load Wunderground API. Check the logs for more information. |
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cait |
oh no.... |
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Shane-S |
is bug 12904 not pushed yet and I have to manually edit the configs...and I can't find the list of what apache configs needs the rewite rules |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=12904 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, kyle, RESOLVED FIXED, Force browser to load new JavaScript and CSS files after upgrade |
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cait |
it has been pushed |
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Shane-S |
I literally just did the upgrade today, so might I just need to restart apache? |
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Shane-S |
I am installed from packages |
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cait |
i am not sure |
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cait |
tcohen: Joubu maybe? |
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Shane-S |
okay can't hurt to restart, so I will try that and see. |
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cait |
ok |
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cait |
keeping fingers crossed |
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cait |
if oyu haven't yet.. always also restart plack and memcache on updates, to be sure |
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Shane-S |
I am doing full server reboot |
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cait |
hi khall and JesseM |
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JesseM |
Hi cait |
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kidclamp |
bunch a slackers |
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khall |
hi cait! tomas just let me know I've been missing from IRC ;) |
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cait |
you have been |
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khall |
my bad |
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cait |
glad to have you back :) |
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Shane-S |
*sigh* Internal Server Error...was hoping upgrade would fix this...I can find a log entry for it anywhere... |
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Shane-S |
Whenever I try and adjust a patron card size... ibstaff.npelem.com/cgi-bin/koha/patroncards/edit-template.pl |
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cait |
did you update to the latest 18.05? |
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Shane-S |
I am just trying to adjust a card template's margin and it just saying Internal Error, yeah 18.05.02 now |
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cait |
ah labels |
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Shane-S |
was doing it on 17.05 |
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cait |
internal server errors go into the plack-error-log |
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Shane-S |
ah I was looking in apache's |
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cait |
we've had some problems with a borked printer profile |
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Shane-S |
ty |
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cait |
if there is one linked, maybe try to remove it for a test |
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Shane-S |
I can't find a 500 error, aren't internal server errors logged as 500? |
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Shane-S |
best I can find is a 404.pl in the plack.log |
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cait |
are you looking at th eplack log? |
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cait |
plack-error-log i mean? |
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cait |
there are no html error codes, perl errors |
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cait |
look at it with tail and then trigger the error in the gui |
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cait |
@later tell could you maybe take a look at my patch on bug 20504? |
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huginn |
cait: The operation succeeded. |
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oleonard |
cait: Did you just tell huginn to give that message to someone named "could" ? |
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tcohen |
Shane-S: are you running plack? |
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cait |
oleonard: i guess so... |
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cait |
thx for telling me :) |
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cait |
@later tell Joubu could you maybe take a look at my patch on bug 20504? |
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huginn |
cait: The operation succeeded. |
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could |
Hello I'm could how do you do? |
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cait |
:P |
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oleonard |
cait: I got your message, thanks! ;) |
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Joubu |
cait: add me to the cc list please |
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cait |
DONE THX |
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cait |
done thx even |
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cait |
seems my typing is a bit off tonight |
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oleonard |
See y'all tomorrow |
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caroline |
What would you guys suggest for an organization that needs to have authorities for publishers? Add CORPO_NAME contraint to 264$b or put the publisher in 710$a? I'm afraid if it's in 710 it will get mixed up with secondary authors |
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caroline |
Or maybe create a 790 field that would be used just for publishers? |
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tcohen |
710 + $ePublisher? |
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caroline |
Would that be searchable though? |
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caroline |
there is a publisher index I think |
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tcohen |
caroline: making it searchable using the Publisher index would require touching some files |
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tcohen |
gimme a sec |
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tcohen |
the Publisher index gets filled with 260$b |
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caroline |
That's why I'm wondering if it would just be easier for everybody to add an authority constraint to 264$b (my Publisher index is mapped to 260$b and 264$b) |
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caroline |
Would there be downsides to that? |
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caroline |
(they are not librarians, just a small not for profit, and I told them the library police is not going to arrest them if they don't catalog *exactly* the way librarian do it :P) |
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cait |
i think 264 would mak esense |
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cait |
but don' tknow if you will get the right display, the xslt doesn't expect authorities htere |
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cait |
probably onl ygenerates a link on the text |
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caroline |
ok, I guess I can ask my team to tweak the xslt as if it was an authority |
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caroline |
cait: do you think C4/Heading/MARC21.pm would hinder my efforts since 264 is not in there? |
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cait |
it might only be used when importing |
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cait |
hm |
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cait |
let's se |
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cait |
e |
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cait |
i am not sure |
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cait |
seems to be used for the linker |
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cait |
the autmatic one |
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caroline |
I don't see why we would have the possibility to choose a thesaurus in marc frameworks if it's not possible to use authorities elsewhere other than in 1XX, 6XX, 7XX and 8XX |
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caroline |
And also why we could create new authority types if they are hardcoded |
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cait |
yeah i think it was definitely thought to allow it |
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cait |
we might have 'broken' it a little, that I can't outrule |
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* caroline |
is definitely NOT being chased by the library police for misusing authority records |
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cait |
hehe |
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Joubu |
cait: did you find where $lang from preferences.pl was passed to the template? |
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cait |
hm? |
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cait |
i deleted the line wher eit was passed |
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cait |
i didn't see it in the template |
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Joubu |
-$lang = $template->param( 'lang' ); |
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Joubu |
this one? |
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cait |
yeah |
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cait |
that's what i spotted first an dnoticed it fixed the html tag |
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cait |
because we have a global one called lang |
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Joubu |
it's not passed, it's set from the url params |
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cait |
it's a bit confusing to figure this out... the one in preferences.pl appeared to never be initialized? |
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cait |
and it showed as empty in the templates |
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cait |
systempreferences.pl does set it |
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cait |
i think |
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Joubu |
whaou |
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Joubu |
that's terribly buggy |
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cait |
that bad? |
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Joubu |
I do not think so |
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Joubu |
actually: |
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cait |
i got quite confused... that's why i wondered if you could take a look :) |
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Joubu |
$lang = $template->param( 'lang' ); |
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Joubu |
should be: $lang = $input->param( 'lang' ); |
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Joubu |
I guess |
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cait |
ah |
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cait |
an dthen it would actually be set right |
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cait |
? |
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cait |
should i try? |
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Joubu |
if you replace template with input it works |
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cait |
hah |
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cait |
i will do a new patch in a bit |
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cait |
just working on something else first that's almost finished |
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Joubu |
but all that code dealing with the language in admin/*pref*.pl seems useless |
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cait |
it is a bit odd |
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cait |
i think part of the code pulls the right pref files? |
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cait |
as we use yaml there... not the usual way |
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cait |
and another mayybe to build the languages list |
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Joubu |
I think your patch is ok |
| 21:13 |
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Joubu |
but I do not understand why it fixes the issue :) |
| 21:13 |
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Adel |
Hello, I hope this is the right place to ask. I'm going to start an internship and I need to implement a library system so I'm looking this way, but are there any time estimates for setting up Koha? |
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caroline |
Adel wow that is a mighty project for an internship! |
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Joubu |
hello Adel, yes it's the place to ask, welcome :) |
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Joubu |
Are you dev or librarian? |
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Adel |
I'm a dev, they wanted me to build one but no way in hell I'm going to finish that in an internship |
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Adel |
It's a single library, not very large, they have all their records on Excel and want to modernize |
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Joubu |
cait: ok silly me, it fixes it because $template->param('lang') unset the value sent from C4::Auth, so your patch is perfect as it |
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cait |
yeah, creating a new one is not what i would recommend |
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cait |
Joubu: that's what i reckoned |
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cait |
Joubu: and it never seemed to pass the language to GetTranslatesLanguages |
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cait |
becuase it never really got the lang... but it didn't seem to break htings... because it's not using the return? |
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cait |
quite... odd |
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caroline |
Adel with my colleagues here who are devs (I'm a librarian) the minimum I've seen is 3 months, but they have been doing it for 10 years |
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cait |
it depends on the library, the data... what functionality they want to use |
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caroline |
so all the tools to convert excel files for example are already coded |
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cait |
and probably a bit on your background for the time needed to migrate date and set up the production system - lots of variables |
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cait |
Joubu: so you'd leave it as is? |
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Joubu |
cait: the bug is that call: $template->param('lang'); the other changes your patch made are just removing useless code, so it's fine to have them |
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Joubu |
yes |
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cait |
cool thx :) |
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cait |
Joubu: using a bit of vacation time for practicing problem solving... |
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Adel |
Oh snap, that's longer than I thought, the worst thing is that they want a project plan before approving the funds |
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cait |
how long is your internship? |
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caroline |
Adel: although we don't work on one project full time, so it might take you a lot less time (expecially if the team is smaller... more ppl = more time) |
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Adel |
Officially 4 months, I wouldn't be working full time either, but I'd be the only intern, although I was told I could be given more time outside the internship |
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cait |
Using Koha will require you to convert the excel data into Marc21 |
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cait |
which is a library stnadard format for bibliographic data - that can be a bit tricky |
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cait |
but maybe try out one of the demos to get an idea of Koha and give it a few days to set up a installation and see how it goes for a start? |
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caroline |
cait: the conversion would be the biggest chunk no? |
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caroline |
installation is pretty quick? |
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cait |
caroline: i guess... well if it's only a few fields maybe it could be ok |
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cait |
but with no library background marc21 has a bit of a steep learning curve i guess |
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cait |
:) |
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cait |
Adel: if you try, make sure you use the packages |
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cait |
packages? |
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cait |
ah still no wahanu |
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cait |
i |
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caroline |
he's still on the beach... |
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cait |
wizzyrea: can you restart wahanui? |
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Adel |
If entering data takes up the most of the time maybe I could get some help from the librarian. |
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cait |
how many do they have? |
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Adel |
Probably just one, it's a small library |
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cait |
ah, i meant items/books |
| 21:26 |
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cait |
:) |
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cait |
sometimes it's easier to just enter them again instead of migrating, but depends on how many and if you got the time etc |
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cait |
koha can pull data from external catalogs, so if you have isbn etc you can get nice records |
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Adel |
Oh, not sure, I actually told them I'd send them a few questions and I'd make the project plan based on that feedback, I don't want to spend too much time gathering information without getting paid for it. |
| 21:27 |
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caroline |
true |
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cait |
i'd ask them for a data sample maybe and some numbers |
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Adel |
Sounds great, could there be anything else I need to consider? :) |
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cait |
what do they want to do with the system? |
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caroline |
let me check the questions we ask our clients |
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cait |
circulation? cataloguing? OPAC? acquisitions? subscrpition management... |
| 21:30 |
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caroline |
what data they have, the format, etc. Also the patron data and how it is stored (excel/csv or other format) |
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Adel |
They said they wanted it locally but chances are they'll want OPAC for convenience. |
| 21:31 |
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caroline |
what equipment they already have vs what they will need to buy (servers, scanners, depending on what they want to do) |
| 21:32 |
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cait |
what kind of a library is it? |
| 21:32 |
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cait |
public library, company library... |
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Adel |
private library, private school, it's a single room, although I haven't entered to guesstimate the amount of books. |
| 21:33 |
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cait |
ah a school |
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cait |
cool |
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Adel |
caroline: that's really helpful, thanks :D |
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caroline |
also, for your planning, make sure you include personnalisation time |
| 21:33 |
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caroline |
they may want you to change to look of the opac of somthing like that |
| 21:35 |
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Joubu |
Adel: https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/KohaDevBox if you want a local install easily and hack |
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caroline |
I can't help you with computer stuff, but if you need help converting to marc or other library-specific question, don't hesitate to come looking for me here! ;) |
| 21:36 |
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cait |
Adel: where are you located? |
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caroline |
Oh yeah, also, if they have other software they want/need to be connected to koha (like a student database or something like that) |
| 21:37 |
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Adel |
I'm in Mexico, so I'd need to install Koha in spanish |
| 21:37 |
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cait |
spanish is no problem |
| 21:38 |
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cait |
make sure you install the language before you run the web installer |
| 21:38 |
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cait |
because then you get the sample data installed in spanish too |
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cait |
package commands for htis are here: https://wiki.koha-community.or[…]ANET_staff_client |
| 21:39 |
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Adel |
caroline: I doubt it, they said they had zero systems in place, they'll probably want to log the who borrows the books at least, without user management. |
| 21:41 |
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caroline |
They might have to manage users with koha even if its just to log issues and returns, but it can be kept at a minimum. |
| 21:42 |
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Adel |
You mean staff? |
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caroline |
staff and students (if they want to issue and return books through koha, students have to have a user file) |
| 21:43 |
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caroline |
But it can be only their name and an id |
| 21:44 |
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caroline |
I guess they could lend all the books to the same user if they REALLY don't want to manage patron files |
| 21:45 |
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caroline |
At least just to know which books are borrowed and which are not |
| 21:46 |
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Adel |
Got it |
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caroline |
cait: I think I found the problem with linking an authority to 264$b... I can't specify to copy the authority info in the b subfield... It goes directly to 264$a -_- |
| 21:49 |
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caroline |
unless maybe if I only write in my b subfield in my authority... seems so counter intuitive |
| 21:50 |
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Adel |
I think that's all I needed to know, thanks to everyone for the help, I'll forward my questions to the school and check on what cait suggested while I wait for the feedback. (: |
| 21:50 |
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caroline |
Good luck Adel ! |
| 21:51 |
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cait |
good luck :) |
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cait |
caroline: hmpf |
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cait |
about the authority |
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cait |
found an older thread on the mailing list - maybe there is something useful in there https://lists.katipo.co.nz/pub[…]March/047450.html |
| 21:55 |
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cait |
hm the same problem, but no solution |
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caroline |
hm, i tried filling in only the $b in my authority record and it worked, it copied in the 264$b field. BUT, if I search for my authority (in Authorities module) I have to search the entire record since there is no $a |
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caroline |
I guess it's not the end of the world... I'll have to test more to see if it causes other problems |
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cait |
hm yeah, i see no way to change hte mapping for the copy action :( |
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cait |
like copy a to b |
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cait: re: the mailing list, yeah I'm thinking maybe of putting a 710 or 71X field for the publisher, I just want it to be easy for them since they're not librarians |
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cait |
yep |
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caroline |
they are sooooo excited to have their collection in koha though! It is fun to watch the star in their eyes when they see ll the possibilities :D |
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cait |
:) |
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interesting how things start to work once you start editing the correct files... |
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caroline |
Argh Zebra... You're the worst... |
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cait |
in this case editing template files in the wrong koha repo :) |
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I think I better go, see y'all tomorrow! |
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