IRC log for #koha, 2018-05-07

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06:53 alex_ bonjour
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06:58 magnuse wouldn't it make sense to update borrower.lastseen on circ events too, not just logins? some patrons might login and never borrow anything, others might borrow lots and never log in
06:58 magnuse ....and hiya #koha
06:59 rangi i thought it did the opposite, updated it when circ events, not when logged in?
07:00 cait I think logged in was int e bug description
07:00 cait not sure without reading the code
07:00 cait hi magnuse and rangi
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07:01 rangi well i just had to do some work on the SIP code to get it to update lastseen when a user logged in, because it was only updating when a circ event happened
07:02 rangi because if someone is getting a book from overdrive, with auths via SIP, that was never updating the the lastseen
07:02 rangi (but if you issued to them in the staff client, or they took an item out via SIP, it did update)
07:02 rangi i havent looked at the bug report, but ive read the code ;) at least in 17.11
07:03 magnuse huh, that is the opposite of what i am seeing...
07:03 magnuse[…]a75d;hb=HEAD#l474 "sub track_login"
07:04 rangi yeah, the SIP code doesnt use that
07:06 magnuse lastseen is updated in a "patron info" sip2 request:[…]e89f;hb=HEAD#l939
07:07 magnuse as far as i can see that is the only place sip2 updates lastseen?
07:08 rangi yep
07:08 rangi thats why i had to add code
07:08 rangi to make it update when a user logs in
07:09 rangi so if you circ something in SIP
07:09 rangi it updates last seen
07:09 rangi if you just authenticate it doesn't
07:10 rangi (expect in the one library I have deployed it in)
07:10 cait both make sense - circ and auth
07:10 cait are you filing a bug?
07:10 rangi if i can be bothered
07:10 rangi with dealing with arguing for ages about it pointlessly
07:11 * magnuse will sign off on it without arguing
07:11 cait i'd agree too
07:11 rangi :)
07:12 cait so you got sign-off and qa.... well, if this qa can figure out how sip works again
07:12 rangi but yeah, every time you see (login, circ action) a borrower we should update that column, then its much easier for libraries to find inactive borrowers
07:14 magnuse yup
07:14 rangi ill try to get time to file the bug, and update the code for master
07:14 magnuse that is how i stumbled into it - a library wanting to delete inactive borrowers
07:14 magnuse rangi++
07:15 magnuse libraries will be looking for this in light of gdpr
07:15 magnuse but you also have to turn the syspref on...
07:17 rangi yep, it probably needs a full check to make sure its consistent in SIP and staff and OPAC
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08:31 severine_q Good morning #koha :)
08:43 magnuse trying to figure out how borrowers.lastseen is updated. so far i have not been able to figure out how it is updated by circ actions (but observing the db tells me it *is* updated in circ actions): https://wiki.koha-community.or[…]orrowers.lastseen
08:45 severine_q I always fail when I try to add a schedule task to a saed report, is there someone who could help me ?
08:51 rangi magnuse: i did track it down, but I can't remember where I saw it, I think its when you scan the card, not when you issue anything
08:53 magnuse ah, ok, i'll investigate in that direction then. thanks :-)
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08:55 rangi I might be dreaming :) i'll have a quick look
09:08 rangi so weird, because afaict it is updating on a circ operation
09:08 rangi but darned if i can find where/how
09:19 rangi maybe it doesn't now im totally confused :)
09:25 rangi ill have to look again in the morning
09:25 rangi maybe i was confused and its just SIP, and opac login that update it
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09:47 magnuse rangi: thanks for looking. from bug 16276 it looks like the original intent was only to track logins
09:47 magnuse Bug 16276 - When automatically deleting expired borrowers, make sure they didn't log in recently https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]_bug.cgi?id=16276
09:49 kidclamp_ magnuse, I believe it actually updates on every page load
09:49 magnuse that would explain the behaviour i saw
09:49 magnuse let me test that
09:52 magnuse yeah, when i do a checkout, my lastseen is updated, but not the lastseen of the patron
09:52 kidclamp the call is in C4/Auth::checkauth
09:53 kidclamp ah, yes, it tracks the logged in user, or the patron when they login - and then it is on every page load
10:05 rangi so it only tracks logins in staff and opac, and only circ events in SIP (currently)
10:06 * cait waves
10:06 rangi i have a patch to get it track logins in SIP too, we just need to add a bit to CanBookBeIssued
10:06 rangi to have it update on Circ too
10:06 rangi then we will actually have a valid lastseen
10:08 magnuse rangi: nah, in sip2 it currently updates lastseen on "patron information" requests. not circ
10:09 rangi yes, but that doesnt get called by a login
10:10 rangi it does as part of a circ transaction tho
10:10 magnuse it does, if there is a third party service like an ebooks service that authenticates patrons in koha via sip2
10:10 rangi nope it doesnt
10:10 rangi because thats exactly what I had to patch
10:11 magnuse oh?
10:11 rangi they dont ask for patron information
10:11 magnuse ah, but there is Bug 18625 - Update borrower last seen from SIP https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]_bug.cgi?id=18625
10:11 kidclamp bug 18821
10:11 magnuse which is pushed to master for inclusion in 18.05
10:11 rangi ah cool
10:12 magnuse Bug 18821 - TrackLastPatronActivity is a performance killer https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]_bug.cgi?id=18821
10:12 kidclamp no huginn?
10:12 kidclamp https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]_bug.cgi?id=18821
10:13 magnuse rangi: did you say self check machines will always do "patron info" requests before they do checkout?
10:14 rangi I think so, lemme find the patch I did
10:16 rangi yes thats right
10:16 rangi i added an update to check_password
10:16 rangi because thats all that things like overdrive do
10:18 rangi in C4/SIP/ILS/
10:18 rangi so if it sees a valid user with a valid password, it updates lastseen
10:19 rangi selfcheck machines rarely require you to use a password, you scan the card and the machine does patron info
10:19 rangi and then you start scanning items
10:20 rangi hope that makes sense
10:20 magnuse yeah
10:21 magnuse i just tested via telnet, and i could check out a book via sip2 without lastseen getting updated
10:22 magnuse rangi does your patch do pretty much the same thing as "Bug 18625 - Update borrower last seen from SIP" then?
10:22 cait I think none of ours uses password on the selfcheck...
10:22 cait maybeone
10:23 rangi i think that patch is still only doing it in the patron info right magnuse ?
10:23 magnuse ah yes, that is true
10:24 rangi so nope, still won't catch users using overdrive, or any of the other ones that don't call patron info
10:25 magnuse your patch will be a nice addition, then
10:26 magnuse but it leaves us with a question of should we update lastseen on circ events, i think?
10:27 magnuse and updating lastseen from check_password would hopefully catch logins from third party services via REST API and ILS-DI too
10:29 * magnuse needs food
10:30 magnuse rangi: thanks for digging into this, hope i didn't keep you up too far into the night
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10:31 eythian hi rangi, magnuse, cait
10:31 rangi heya eythian
10:31 wahanui hmmm... eythian is Time's Person of the Year for 2006.
10:31 rangi magnuse: naw i gotta run some stuff on a clients machine anyway
10:32 eythian <-- the Amsterdam metro is going to become a confusing place for French tourists.
10:40 rangi heh
10:40 rangi eythian: has anyone mentioned there is a rogue brewbar on the campus of the uni that kohacon18 is at? :)
10:41 kidclamp rogue as in the brewery? or an underground/unofficial brewpub?
10:41 eythian rangi: heh neat. A friend was making noises recently about organising a trip to Portland, but I haven't heard from him in a while so I dunno what the current plan (if any) is.
10:43 rangi as in the brewery kidclamp
10:43 kidclamp :-)
10:45 rangi kidclamp:
10:45 rangi i reckon we should just move the hackfest to there :)
10:45 kidclamp nice, I am a fan of their beers
10:45 rangi yep me too
10:45 kidclamp I'll have to make a trip to alchemist before i head out and will bring what I can to share
10:46 kidclamp
10:48 rangi nice! I don't think we will have any issues finding good beer in portland too
10:49 rangi[…]oregonbrewerytour
10:51 rangi or the more ridiculous
10:52 rangi a 15 seater bike
10:52 eythian everyone local will probably hate you
10:52 eythian they've banned them from the inner city here
10:52 rangi hehe yeah fair enough, 15 drunk people on a big slow thing
10:52 eythian
10:53 eythian yeah exactly
10:53 rangi i think ill probably go for a walking tour
10:53 rangi theres a behind the scenes one that sounds fun
10:54 rangi breakside, unicorn and migration
10:54 * eythian likes a good walking tour
10:57 rangi[…]e-beer-and-donuts   <-- its my 3 fave things!!
10:57 rangi ok, this script has finished running, I should hit the hay
10:58 eythian rangi, if you've got an excuse to go to Manchester, I'm thinking of going to this
10:59 rangi oooh that sounds neat
11:00 rangi right, time for sleep, spotya later
11:00 eythian laters
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11:04 marcelr hi #koha
11:04 kidclamp him
11:04 kidclamp hi marcelr
11:04 marcelr hi kidclamp
11:04 marcelr kidclamp: did you see my later on the lists patch?
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11:05 kidclamp hmm..I don't think so, huginn is awol
11:05 eythian hi marcelr
11:05 marcelr hi eythian
11:06 marcelr kidclamp: yeah huginn did not cooperate..
11:06 kidclamp wahanui, where's huginn?
11:06 wahanui huginn is a bot, not a person.
11:06 marcelr let me find it again :)
11:06 marcelr kidclamp: here it is: @later tell kidclamp signed off on 20687, could you plz look at bug 11943
11:07 kidclamp yes, loooking now
11:07 marcelr ah great
11:25 kidclamp code looks good marcelr, but patch won't apply
11:25 marcelr really
11:25 marcelr they are from friday?
11:25 marcelr let me try again
11:26 kidclamp wait. lemme try again
11:26 marcelr they apply with me
11:27 kidclamp yes, helps if I apply to the correct repository
11:27 marcelr good point
11:30 kidclamp updated
11:30 marcelr kidclamp++
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11:32 oleonard Hi all
11:32 marcelr hi oleonard
11:32 wahanui hi olé onard
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11:44 * cait waves
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13:14 SoniaB Hello
13:14 wahanui bonjour, SoniaB
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13:15 marcelr thx khall
13:15 khall np!
13:18 SoniaB I'm trying to configure article requests and I have a look to the manual : the second step is "Set to Enable patrons to place article requests." but I can't find where I have to do that. Is someone know how to do ?
13:20 marcelr SoniaB: look at circulation rules at the right end
13:21 marcelr you can set it for patron types etc.
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13:24 SoniaB marcelr: thks, I've seen that but as it appeers few lines later in the manual and  I couldn't do a request even if I change this in the circulation rules, I thought that I have miss something else...
13:25 marcelr khall: btw was that an additional signoff or a qa ? you did not change status..
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13:34 LeeJ hi #koha
13:36 LeeJ Joubu: around?
13:37 Joubu Hi LeeJ, #koha
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13:37 LeeJ Joubu: just need confirmation..we're standardizing all kohadocs screenshots to be fully in English yes?
13:39 * cait waves
13:39 * LeeJ waves to cait
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13:41 LeeJ Joubu cait are these valid screenshots? Or should all text on it be in English?[…]equests/104/diffs
13:42 Joubu lol
13:43 Joubu No idea for the screenshots questions...
13:43 cait looking now
13:43 LeeJ thankss
13:43 cait hm good question
13:43 LeeJ didn't want to merge until I checked :)
13:43 cait i think library names and records can be non-english
13:43 cait bit more critical for patron category codes and item types
13:44 LeeJ right
13:45 LeeJ so I'll ask for screenshot updates before merge :)
13:48 cait i don't have a clear preference, might be nice to use sample data where possible, but for osme things like catalog enrichment it might be not possible easily
13:49 LeeJ cait: I just added a comment to the merge request to request English...if there's a problem with her doing them in English I can help with the screenshots..just waiting to see what's said :)
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14:01 cait :)
14:01 cait caroline++
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14:12 tcohen morning
14:17 cait morning tcohen
14:18 tcohen cait: what do you think of bug 20712
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14:31 oleonard gmcharlt: Could you check huginn's alarm clock?
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14:34 Shane-S So...I have an electronics and damages questions...does Koha have a way to store damage and repair history and patron assigment
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14:34 cait tcohen: dos the translate server work for you?
14:34 cait i will check the bug out while you check :)
14:36 Shane-S I ask as I use it to track student chromebooks, but I can't find a good solution out there to monitor damages and repairs and the patron to make a device A is having problems, patron John has had 6 repairs to devices checked out to him
14:36 cait tcohen: commented
14:36 cait Shane-S: patron notes
14:37 tcohen cait: thanks
14:37 cait looking for info
14:37 cait tcohen: your part of the deal?
14:37 Shane-S cait: But that isn't really something I can query, as it is just text right?
14:37 cait Shane-S: maybe it's checkot notes, lookign for some info on it
14:37 cait it's text they can put on the checkoutsin their account
14:37 cait and the library gets an email
14:38 cait i think bywater has a tutorial, but haven't found it yet
14:39 gmcharlt @quote random
14:39 huginn gmcharlt: Quote #203: "francharb: oh god… it's complicated" (added by wizzyrea at 03:48 PM, May 08, 2012)
14:39 tcohen cait: what do you want? :-D
14:39 gmcharlt oleonard++
14:39 cait you need to read back :P
14:39 cait or checko your pm
14:39 oleonard gmcharlt++
14:40 cait gmcharlt++
14:40 cait kidclamp_away: possible yourwebsite search doesn't like me? :(
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14:44 Shane-S hmm...would you find a "records" of damages more relevant and reportable then just a notes field? Example cait break her MacBook Pro, I enter it as "damaged" and must fill in a note field and optional costs. Record is made with date/time/patronID/itemID/staffID/note field/costs(maybe have a repaired entry for this). Not sure how relevant that is, I just know I repairs lots of keyboard and screens multiple times.
14:44 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 20685: Escape letter template content in textarea <[…]57ed769c25b12eb73>
14:44 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 20663: Add some POD, so koha test tools don't complain <[…]fb5da7c98a251aeb5>
14:44 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 20663: Remove dead code related to compound reports <[…]54416df3202057a5e>
14:44 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 19171: Attempt to make "no holds possible" messages less confusing <[…]4c4a21b324626528b>
14:44 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 20620: Remove warnings in <[…]667ed23878bdc208d>
14:45 Shane-S bot lag or just a commit that triggered mass messages?
14:45 cait hm maybe not checkout notes then, that would be more for reporting damage
14:46 cait the other maybe a custom payment type?
14:46 Shane-S I just didn't a "records" of damages, just the item status
14:48 Shane-S I mean books see to be damaged and replaced, not repaired. But electronics can be repairs. Just asking weather it is something that "fits" Koha, or I should look at more specialized software
14:48 Shane-S didn't see a
14:49 tuxayo hi #koha o/
14:51 Shane-S I am sure you all might like to know my toddler broke Kindle Fire...but wouldn't the history been more Shane's kid broke 4 Kindles across 5 Libraries..."DENIED!" If you just saw broke a kindle in an email...and my cute toddler gave you that innocent look and I promised it wouldn't happen might just override it :)
14:51 Shane-S and...Kindle number 5...destroyed
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14:54 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 11317: (QA follow-up) Fix merge error and punctuation <[…]b3e491d03bf7e013f>
14:55 tuxayo Shane-S: wow that's a terrible serial broker story
14:57 Shane-S Just an example...if you substitute my toddler with student and kindle with chromebook you have my daily life (no cuteness needed)...its like a pencil...they have to have one
14:58 Joubu huginn is not feeling well
14:58 huginn Joubu: I'll give you the answer just as soon as RDA is ready
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15:05 kidclamp hmm cait?
15:05 wahanui cait is probably the best friend you could ever have.
15:07 tuxayo awwww so cute wahanui
15:07 oleonard Bug 20654... 181 of 201 templates changed
15:07 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=20654 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, ASSIGNED , Omnibus: Update two-column templates to use Bootstrap grid
15:07 oleonard (but only a few patches submitted)
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15:08 tuxayo Shane-S: so much waste :( Especially considering the environmental and social cost of making these things.
15:09 Guest1726 Project Koha_Master_D8 build #465: STILL UNSTABLE in 32 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]ha_Master_D8/465/
15:15 Shane-S tuxayo: Well...if the parents cared maybe the kids would too...but they just expect it fixed and given back...and then the parents argue it isn't their kids fault. No one is at fault or responsible these days it seems.
15:16 Shane-S Had a student throw once across the room...they got detention..and I asked if I am to repair it..and I was told give them a spare and order a screen. Personally I would have been like here is notebook and pencil...hand write all homework and do all math by hand
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15:26 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 20531: (follow-up) Set the timestamps to the same value to get a correct order <[…]31363bc9cb0d74b73>
15:26 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 20284: Fix minor compilation errors <[…]7fa29e32c5efe39b9>
15:26 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 20284: (QA follow-up) superlibrarian has ill permissions <[…]707bdc1e2ded9a637>
15:26 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 20687: (follow-up) Look for invitekey in show_accept and fix error codes <[…]e3904e6b087b5a9ca>
15:26 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 20687: Check all share keys for a given list <[…]b747807d231d09024>
15:26 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 20686: OPAC shows 'Login to OverDrive account' with 'OverDriveCirculation' syspre... <[…]452a892823eed39e0>
15:26 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 20284: (follow-up) Added missing 'exit's <[…]5c3b1c28e5baa8199>
15:26 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 20284: ILLModuleCopyrightClearance text breaks <[…]2a083202bf8b5d43c>
15:26 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 20305: Remove warnings from tools scripts <[…]1ec8f72089b4e8626>
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15:40 LeeJ caroline++
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15:55 caroline Is it normal that I get a 503 Unavailable service when I try to go to Are the strings being updated for 18.05?
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15:59 Joubu caroline: I hope it's not normal, you should email Bernardo
15:59 caroline ok!
15:59 caroline Thanks Joubu
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16:00 * LeeJ waves to caroline
16:01 Guest1726 Project Koha_Master_D8 build #466: STILL UNSTABLE in 33 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]ha_Master_D8/466/
16:01 Guest1726 * andrew.isherwood: Bug 20284: ILLModuleCopyrightClearance text breaks
16:01 Guest1726 * andrew.isherwood: Bug 20284: (follow-up) Added missing 'exit's
16:01 Guest1726 * Tomás Cohen Arazi: Bug 20284: (QA follow-up) superlibrarian has ill permissions
16:01 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=20284 major, P5 - low, ---, andrew.isherwood, Pushed to Master , ILL: Adding a 'new request' from OPAC fails with template error if text exists in ILLModuleCopyrightClearance
16:01 Guest1726 * Tomás Cohen Arazi: Bug 20284: Fix minor compilation errors
16:01 Guest1726 * Nick Clemens: Bug 20687: Check all share keys for a given list
16:01 Guest1726 * Bug 20687: (follow-up) Look for invitekey in show_accept and fix error
16:01 Guest1726 * Jonathan Druart: Bug 20305: Remove warnings from tools scripts
16:01 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=20687 major, P5 - low, ---, nick, Pushed to Master , Multiple invitations to share lists prevents some users from accepting
16:01 Guest1726 * mtj: Bug 20686: OPAC shows 'Login to OverDrive account' with
16:01 Guest1726 * Jonathan Druart: Bug 20531: (follow-up) Set the timestamps to the same value to get a
16:01 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=20305 normal, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Master , Warnings in tools scripts need to be removed
16:01 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=20686 normal, P5 - low, ---, mtj, Pushed to Master , OPAC shows 'Login to OverDrive account' with 'OverDriveCirculation' syspref disabled
16:01 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=20531 minor, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Master , IssueSlip is failing randomly
16:01 Joubu pfffffffff
16:02 Joubu :s/pfffffffff/happy monday!
16:02 caroline Hi LeeJ !
16:02 LeeJ caroline: you're a documentation superstar :)
16:03 caroline Ok, so while I was writing my email to Bernardo, Pootle came back. phew!
16:03 caroline LeeJ: thanks! :D I finally had some time to do community work last week yay!
16:03 tuxayo caroline: is seems to work now. And it seems there was an operation 20 min ago
16:04 caroline Normally the whole team does community work (the devs do mostly bugs or sign offs, and I do translation or doc), but I'd been soooo swamped lately I hadn't had time
16:04 tuxayo actually the operation is still in progress. We can see that "things" are happening witht last activity column. http://translate.koha-communit[…]g/projects/18.05/
16:04 caroline the whole team does community work *on friday afternons
16:05 LeeJ caroline: I'm very grateful! I'm flailing just trying to keep up with release notes changes as they get added to make sure nothing is missed
16:05 cait tcohen: translate seems alive again - even without email :)
16:06 cait caroline: same for me :) i had just started writing it
16:06 cait caroline++ docs work
16:07 caroline LeeJ: I can imagine, I see all the "Pushed to master" (which is good but still a lot of work)
16:08 LeeJ caroline: thankfully Joubu taught me the trick of just watching the Release Notes gitlab page and just skimming off the top commit each time :)
16:08 cait caroline: say thx to your coworkers/company - I've noticed and it's great :)
16:09 LeeJ I second cait's comment!
16:10 LeeJ caroline: merci beaucoup à vous tous!
16:11 LeeJ (who knew 8 years of French would have the occasional usefulness?)
16:13 caroline LeeJ: lol! pretty good! ;)
16:13 LeeJ not bad for being a bit rusty..been away from it for a few years ;)
16:14 caroline cait: just passed on the message, thanks so much! :D
16:15 cait role model :)
16:18 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 20721: (bug 19403 follow-up) Prevent Circulation.t to fail randomly <[…]4617b47acb076970e>
16:18 LeeJ well I'm heading out for to a study session for my final exam tomorrow!
16:21 cait @later tell LeeJ good luck!!
16:21 huginn cait: The operation succeeded.
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16:51 Guest1726 Yippee, build fixed!
16:51 wahanui o/ '`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`
16:51 Guest1726 Project Koha_Master_D8 build #467: FIXED in 33 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]ha_Master_D8/467/
16:51 Guest1726 Jonathan Druart: Bug 20721: (bug 19403 follow-up) Prevent Circulation.t to fail randomly
16:51 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=20721 normal, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Master , Circulation.t keeps failing randomly
16:51 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=19403 normal, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Stable , Again and again, Circulation.t is failing randomly
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17:07 tuxayo Oh, there is a regression (16.11 ok, 17.11&master KO) on  ReservesNeedReturns , is anyone using it?
17:07 tuxayo The hold ends up without a expiration date which cause to crash.
17:08 Joubu tuxayo: bug 20423
17:08 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=20423 normal, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , ReservesNeedReturns allows multiple patrons to have the same item set to 'waiting'
17:08 Joubu maybe?
17:08 wahanui maybe is a momentaneous error
17:11 tuxayo Joubu: thanks I will check if it reproducible in 17.11 and not in 16.11
17:11 tuxayo Then the cause should (hopefully!) be the same.
17:11 tuxayo And the fix could be common.
17:17 tuxayo Does anyone know what should be the expected behavior for bug 20423 ?
17:17 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=20423 normal, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , ReservesNeedReturns allows multiple patrons to have the same item set to 'waiting'
17:17 tuxayo Two patrons place a hold on the same item with ReservesNeedReturns set to "Automatically"
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18:50 tuxayo Any idea Joubu ?
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21:12 wizzyrea tuxayo: it should probably deny the 2nd attempt to mark the same item waiting
21:13 wizzyrea and/or select the next available item for waiting
21:25 tuxayo wizzyrea: there is something about rank. So maybe is should not deny. There is also a "waiting" state
21:25 wizzyrea yeah the rank is what order the holds should be filled in
21:25 wizzyrea waiting is "it's sitting on the shelf for someone to come get"
21:25 wizzyrea waiting is not a status that can be used to fill a hold
21:26 wizzyrea it absolutely should deny putting a hold on the same item twice
21:26 wizzyrea it should pick the next reserve in line, and advance the queue for those items.
21:27 wizzyrea deny filling a hold with the same item, I mean.
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21:29 rangi morning
21:31 tuxayo hi rangi
21:32 caroline_ hello!
21:32 caroline_ Is it a good morning where you are?
21:32 cait how is tuesday? :)
21:33 caroline_ hehehe!
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21:37 rangi caroline_ and cait sunny so far
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21:57 mtompset @seen magnuse
21:57 huginn mtompset: magnuse was last seen in #koha 4 days, 8 hours, 9 minutes, and 46 seconds ago: * magnuse gotta run
21:57 mtompset Greetings, #koha.
21:58 mtompset Anyone seen a Norwegian? :)
21:58 mtompset I'd like to understand those Norwegian system preferences.
21:58 mtompset Because I patched something related to them, and I need someone to test it. :)
21:59 tuxayo mtompset: Norwegians should be sleeping by now ^^
22:03 wizzyrea they should definitely be on their way to bed :P
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22:05 tuxayo and me too! Bye o/
22:19 mtompset I guess I'll just have to koha-devel mailing list it then. :(
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23:19 tcohen mtompset: ping benjamin
23:20 mtompset ping who?
23:20 wahanui Using deft allegory, the authors have provided an insightful and intuitive explanation of one of Unix's most venerable networking utilities.
23:25 mtompset tcohen, are you suggesting the benjamin on bug 16330?
23:25 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=16330 new feature, P5 - low, ---, benjamin.rokseth, Pushed to Master , Add routes to add, update and delete patrons
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