IRC log for #koha, 2018-01-16

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02:20 aleisha_ we have a few patches coming through from the academy now and would love some signoffs if anyone is around!
02:20 aleisha_ bug 19831 from charlotte
02:20 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=19831 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, Needs Signoff , Turn on EnhancedMessagingPreferences by default for new installations
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02:33 aleisha_ bug 18878 from grace_
02:33 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=18878 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, Needs Signoff , Improve item form display / labels too far from input fields
03:10 aleisha_ bug 19818 from zoebennett
03:10 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=19818 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, Needs Signoff , Add id into tag html from
03:23 aleisha_ bug 18083 from terauhina
03:23 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=18083 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Needs Signoff , Don't show 'library' selection on popular titles page for single-branch libraries
03:32 aleisha_ bug 17869 from grace_
03:32 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=17869 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Needs Signoff , Don't show pick-up library for holds in OPAC account when there is only one branch
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03:51 aleisha_ bug 19856 from jenny
03:51 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=19856 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, Needs Signoff , Improve styling of reports sidebar to match tools sidebar
03:51 aleisha_ bug 19839 from grace_
03:51 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=19839 minor, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, Needs Signoff , warns about bad variable scope
04:04 aleisha_ bug 17682 from charlotte
04:04 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=17682 minor, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, Needs Signoff , Change URL for Google Scholar in OPACSearchForTitleIn
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07:35 reiveune hello
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07:44 alex_a bonjour
07:44 wahanui que tal, alex_a
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07:50 magnuse ~~~
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08:19 fridolin hi there
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08:24 tuxayo hi #koha \o
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08:43 tuxayo Hi, I can't find in the coding guidelines the conventions for HTML ids. Is there at least a non-written one?
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09:23 * cait1 waves
09:29 andreashm hi cait1
10:26 cait1 magnuse: around?
10:26 magnuse yup
10:27 cait1 do you have a moment for talking ILL?
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12:17 saa we have a collection of books which is around 1 lakh 50 thousand we did stock verification and we were trying to upload inventory txt file in koha web interface but after some time the error we get is timed out. we had asked this query earlier is there any way to handle it
12:17 saa we will have to update our koha item status
12:19 kidclamp saa - you may need to increase the timeout on the server, I would also doulbe check items if you can, sometimes the job will continue and finish while just the results page is not returned
12:20 saa is there any way i can upload in small files
12:20 saa would that be fine
12:23 tcohen morning
12:26 kidclamp breaking the file should be fine, filtering to smaller sections when comparing to barcodes scanned should make things run faster.
12:30 saa gr8 tx
12:31 tcohen khall: do you think we could go a declarative way for RO K::O?
12:31 tcohen like explicitly mentioning somewhere
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12:32 tcohen the allowed methods
12:32 tcohen in RO context?
12:32 khall if you have an idea of how to accomplish that I'd love to see it!
12:33 khall I'd suggest we make this list of methods permissive, that is, disallow a specific list of methods. A blacklist instead of a whitelist
12:33 khall you could store it in a package var
12:33 khall is that what you are thinking?
12:34 tcohen yes
12:34 khall yeah, that sounds good. Would you then check it in a BEGIN block or something? I don't think BEGIN is appropriate but I bet there is something available
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12:35 tcohen the problem is the overhead
12:35 tcohen ah, no
12:35 tcohen that's why we want a RO flag
12:35 tcohen true => check
12:35 tcohen false => don't care
12:35 oleonard Hi all
12:36 tcohen hi oleonard!
12:36 wahanui hi olé onard
12:36 kidclamp morning oleonard
12:37 khall tcohen: that only issue I see is that the flag would need to 'cascade' to any related objects. If you have an idea for implementing that I'm all for it!
12:38 tcohen we could add ->find and ->search a RO param
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12:43 tcohen khall: add a ro attribute to Koha::Object
12:43 tcohen declare athe blacklist
12:44 tcohen and have ->find and ->search query accept the RO param (implicitly)
12:45 khall tcohen: that works for me! If you can submit a patch I'll test and sign!
12:45 tcohen my $patrons_set = Koha::Patrons->new({ ro => JSON::true });
12:45 tcohen $patrons_set->search({ blah })
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12:50 tcohen Joubu
12:50 tcohen ?
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13:01 Joubu RO?
13:03 kidclamp Read only
13:04 Joubu I do not have the context to understand what you are talking about then
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13:42 cait1 tcohen: kidclamp: are any of cou available to qa some academy patches?
13:42 cait1 should be fast work
13:43 cait1 bug 17682, bug 18878
13:43 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=17682 minor, P5 - low, ---, charlotte.cordwell123, Signed Off , Change URL for Google Scholar in OPACSearchForTitleIn
13:43 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=18878 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, gracesmythh, Signed Off , Improve item form display / labels too far from input fields
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13:44 kidclamp taking a look cait1
13:44 cait1 thx :)
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13:59 kidclamp oleonard, can you look at bug 18878 - I jind of prefer the alignment of the subfield codes right now - if they move over I would think we should change to "Description of field - {code} " so that those are still aligned
13:59 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=18878 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, gracesmythh, Signed Off , Improve item form display / labels too far from input fields
13:59 oleonard I will look
14:00 cait1 don't hit me if you don't like the idea :)
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14:02 kidclamp heh, cait1, my opinions are often odd. Maybe implies somehting about me...
14:04 cait1 i don't think they are odd :) but the students implemented a suggestion from me, so feeling slightly guilty you don't like it
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14:05 kidclamp I just can't decide which is better, I defer to Owen, he has a better sense of 'correct'
14:05 oleonard I'm ambivalent.
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14:05 cait1 he understands the problem but doesn't like the solution ;)
14:06 cait1 for what it's worth... ours never seemt o notice the subfield codes
14:06 cait1 they don't relate to them really
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14:08 oleonard I think the decision should be based on existing interface patterns, which means that right alignment is more consistent.
14:08 oleonard (as cait1 points out in the bug report)
14:08 cait1 could we move text and field closer together without the change? word lengths vary with translations
14:08 oleonard kidclamp: Let me experiment a little before you move on this one
14:09 kidclamp kk
14:09 cait1 i think there are some more bugs from the students with changed date today in the queue
14:10 cait1 woudl be cool if they got back our tonight to see some progress
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14:12 jenkins Project Koha_17.05_D8 build #64: STILL UNSTABLE in 36 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]Koha_17.05_D8/64/
14:12 jenkins * Jonathan Druart: Bug 19830: Add the Koha::Patron->old_checkouts method
14:12 jenkins * Jonathan Druart: Bug 19599: Speed anonymise_issue_history up
14:12 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=19830 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, RESOLVED FIXED, Add the Koha::Patron->old_checkout method
14:12 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=19599 major, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, RESOLVED FIXED, anonymise_issue_history can be very slow on large systems
14:15 Joubu fridolin: seen that? ^
14:15 wahanui I haven't seen 'that', Joubu
14:15 fridolin Joubu: arf
14:15 Joubu I asked fridolin, not you wahanui
14:15 fridolin i had tested Patron.t is worked
14:16 fridolin xt_author_valid_templates_t ah
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14:26 fridolin Joubu: thanks for the warning, I revert Bug 19514
14:26 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=19514 major, P3, ---, alexbuckley, RESOLVED FIXED, No Password restrictions in onboarding tool patron creation
14:26 fridolin it depends on a new 17.11 feature
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14:34 Joubu thank the tests :)
14:35 oleonard kidclamp: I don't think there's a better way to handle that form without maybe doing a more drastic overhaul. I'd go ahead with the patch as-is
14:35 kidclamp kk
14:35 kidclamp oleonard++
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14:55 * LeeJ wave
14:55 * LeeJ waves
14:56 LeeJ hi #koha
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15:07 jenkins Yippee, build fixed!
15:07 wahanui o/ '`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`
15:07 jenkins Project Koha_17.05_D8 build #65: FIXED in 36 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]Koha_17.05_D8/65/
15:07 jenkins * fridolin.somers: Revert "Bug 19514: Implement password restrictions into onboarding tool"
15:07 jenkins * fridolin.somers: Revert "Bug 19514: Add client-side check"
15:07 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=19514 major, P3, ---, alexbuckley, RESOLVED FIXED, No Password restrictions in onboarding tool patron creation
15:08 fridolin saved piouf
15:08 fridolin wahanui: no comment ?
15:08 wahanui i don't know, fridolin
15:08 fridolin then go to sleep ;)
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15:22 * oleonard whispers Bug 19474
15:22 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=19474 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Needs Signoff , Convert staff client CSS to SCSS
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16:25 oleonard I am a template patch dependency monster. Stop me before I entangle again.
16:26 oleonard P.S. Stop me by signing off on patches, or shooting me with lasers.
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16:51 cait1 oleonard: hmmm
16:51 cait1 :)
16:51 cait1 oleonard: don't forget to mark them academy if it is a good one for them
16:51 cait1 it's this week
16:51 oleonard They're doing signoffs?
16:52 cait1 did some last night :)
16:52 cait1 well... during their day
16:52 cait1
16:52 oleonard Cool. I thought I heard someone doing signoffs last night. The racket was keeping me awake.
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17:00 vfernandes hi #koha
17:06 oleonard Hi vfernandes
17:11 vfernandes i'm using Koha with ElasticSearch but i'm getting one strange behaviour
17:12 vfernandes when I use koha database user for one record/authority change, the change automatically shows on search results (immediate reindex)
17:13 vfernandes when using another users the change isn't immediate
17:13 vfernandes ElasticSearch needs a cronjob for this cases?
17:14 cait1 hm you shoul dnever use the db user
17:14 cait1 but it shoudl not make a difference, that's a bit confusing, i'd expect problems with the db user not the other way around
17:14 cait1 kidclamp: ?
17:16 kidclamp shouldn't matter the user, changes should be instantaneous either way - ModZebra just does them right awya with ES i htink
17:16 vfernandes cait1: I know that I shouldn't use the db user, it was only for debugging
17:18 Joubu even for debugging :)
17:21 vfernandes wait... I found the problem
17:21 vfernandes this bug is already corrected on Koha GIT code
17:22 vfernandes ModZebra on is incorrectly invoked in my Koha version
17:22 cait1 hm staff can see search history in opac, but patron can not... preferences are both turned on... any ideas?
17:24 cait1 hm and it's true... can't access the search history even if it's turend on (
17:25 cait1 flagsrequired => {borrowers => 1}, ?? or
17:25 * cait1 looks at joubu
17:25 cait1 Joubu
17:28 Joubu bug 12497
17:28 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=12497 minor, P5 - low, ---, victor.grousset, Pushed to Stable , Make OPAC search history feature accessible when it should
17:28 Joubu cait1: ^
17:28 cait1 sorry, just found it
17:28 cait1 seems chris didn't pick it
17:28 cait1 for 16.11.x
17:29 cait1 i will comment
17:30 cait1 Joubu++ #making up
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17:34 reiveune bye
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18:35 kidclamp bug 19985
18:35 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=19985 normal, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , TestBuilder.t fails if default circ rule exists
18:44 Joubu kidclamp: prove t/db_dependent/TestBuilder.t returns green here
18:44 Joubu and select categorycode, itemtype, branchcode from issuingrules; return *, *, *
18:45 Joubu ha sorry
18:45 Joubu ok got it :)
19:03 LeeJ if I were trying to query patron firstname/surname and I already have my $member = Koha::Patrons->find($borrowernumber); would I use my $surname = $member->{'surname'}? Sorry, first time really using find for queries
19:04 Joubu my $patron = Koha::Patrons->find(42); say "Hello " . $patron->surname
19:04 Joubu s/member/patron/g
19:05 LeeJ ooooh
19:05 LeeJ that's easy enough
19:06 LeeJ haven't quite figured out how that new inheritance from Koha::Objects works yet
19:06 LeeJ thanks Joubu
19:09 Joubu columns of the table are considered as attributes of the object
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19:20 mtompset Greetings, #koha.
19:21 mtompset @seen marcelr
19:21 huginn mtompset: marcelr was last seen in #koha 1 day, 4 hours, 55 minutes, and 5 seconds ago: <marcelr> maybe you can find it on the wiki
19:21 mtompset @seen Joubu
19:21 huginn mtompset: Joubu was last seen in #koha 12 minutes and 10 seconds ago: <Joubu> columns of the table are considered as attributes of the object
19:22 mtompset Are you still here, Joubu?
19:22 Joubu yes
19:23 mtompset I was tinkering with bug 19938 further
19:23 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=19938 minor, P5 - low, ---, mtompset, In Discussion , Refactor C4::Overdues::checkoverdues
19:23 mtompset And discovered some ugliness...
19:23 mtompset search_utf8.t is language dependent.
19:23 mtompset Have you encountered cases where you have French installed, and then the test breaks if you have it visible in the staff or opac?
19:26 Joubu tests are still data dependent
19:27 mtompset Data dependent isn't as bad as language dependent.
19:27 mtompset Publisher: foobar
19:27 mtompset If you can't find the word Publisher, because your language isn't English... the test fails.
19:28 Joubu yes, the tests are data dependent
19:28 Joubu they depend on the value of the pref "language"
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19:54 Joubu mtompset: it does not make it not necessary, it avoids useless calls to Koha::Holds->search and GetMemberAccountRecords
19:56 mtompset re-reading code... You're right. Sorry.
19:56 mtompset Yours is an optimization.
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20:30 wizzyrea kia ora
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21:08 aleisha_ hello
21:08 aleisha_ more academy patches that we'd love signoffs on
21:09 aleisha_ bug 18661
21:09 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=18661 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, Needs Signoff , Make "Replace only included patron attributes" default on patron import
21:09 aleisha_ bug 18236
21:09 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=18236 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Needs Signoff , Add classes to material type icons on result lists and detail pages
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21:19 wizzyrea *heart eyes*
21:20 * wizzyrea waves to the students
21:50 grace_ waves back :)
21:51 wizzyrea hi grace_ :D
21:52 grace_ hi liz :)
22:00 aleisha_ bug 19221
22:00 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=19221 trivial, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, Needs Signoff , Onboarding tool says user needs to be made superlibrarian
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22:13 wizzyrea A+ I approve of that wording
22:14 gmcharlt @wunder 30096
22:14 huginn gmcharlt: Duluth, GA :: Overcast :: 47F/8C | Tuesday: Chance of snow showers early. Lows overnight in the upper teens. Tuesday Night: Mainly cloudy with snow showers around this evening. Low 17F. Winds WNW at 10 to 15 mph. Chance of snow 50%.
22:14 gmcharlt DOOM
22:15 gmcharlt or, at least, a 50% chance of... DOOM
22:15 wizzyrea heh you better stay off the roads if it snows
22:15 wizzyrea georgians probably go all kinds of silly
22:16 gmcharlt yeah, it can be pretty... interesting on the roads
22:16 gmcharlt oddly, there have been enough snow storms in Atlanta the past few years that I think folks are actually starting to get the hang of it
22:16 gmcharlt climate change is weird
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22:17 gmcharlt as a heads up, huginn may be temporarily knocked offline overnight Eastern Time due to a mandatory reboot of its VM
22:17 gmcharlt I'll make sure it gets back up to its appointed duties by the morning
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22:24 aleisha_ bug 19188
22:24 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=19188 trivial, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, Needs Signoff , Self checkout: missing space if fine amount is blocking renewal
22:33 wizzyrea so many kittens
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22:50 mtompset kittens? Where? I prefer puppies. :P
22:50 aleisha_ catalyst loves kittens
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22:52 wizzyrea always have to be contrary don't you
22:52 wizzyrea last year we were saving narwhals or something
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22:55 mtompset Ooo... narwhals would be cool.
22:56 mtompset No... I just really don't like cats period. I'll tolerate them. Admit that kittens are cute. But I rather not be near kittens.
23:07 wizzyrea ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
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23:11 terauhina Hi, does anyone know where to find the magnifying glass icon that linked to the authority record on the OPAC? I am working on Bug 16427 and do not know where to find the magnifying glass the bug report is talking about
23:11 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=16427 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , Direct link to authority records missing in staff detail view
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23:24 wizzyrea terauhina: yep, you'd need to have a record linked to an authority
23:24 wizzyrea so two things
23:25 wizzyrea you'll need to create an authority - More -> authorities -> Create new
23:25 wizzyrea (yep I can help you put in what you need ^.^)
23:25 wizzyrea and 2. edit one of your records to use that authority, in  cataloguing
23:26 terauhina I've already created an authority and edited one of my records to use the authority but I still can't seem to find the magnifying glass
23:27 wizzyrea hmm.
23:28 wizzyrea oh,
23:28 wizzyrea did you look at it in localhost:8080?
23:28 wizzyrea cuz it won't turn up in the staff client, that's the bug
23:29 wizzyrea it'd be on the detail view of the record, just below the title, in that block of stuff.
23:31 terauhina yeah can see that the authority is there but there is no magnifying glass icon
23:32 terauhina *I can see
23:33 wizzyrea hmm
23:33 wizzyrea https://library.plantandfood.c[…]iblionumber=48609 for example
23:33 wizzyrea see where it says subjects?
23:34 wizzyrea and Cooking has a lil magnifying glass?
23:34 wizzyrea I wonder if it's because of the type of authority you added?
23:35 wizzyrea i.e. a topical term not say, a personal name
23:35 terauhina yup I see the magnifying glass with the cooking. I added a Genre/Form type of authority and named it science
23:35 wizzyrea right, try with a topical term
23:35 terauhina okay
23:36 wizzyrea possible that the genre doesn't
23:36 wizzyrea display the magnifying glass
23:37 terauhina okay thanks I'll try it out
23:38 wizzyrea i mean, sing out if you get stuck and I'll mosey down :)
23:39 aleisha_ also, if anyone has some terminology bugs they've always wanted fixed, please tag them with academy or pass them on to me!
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