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LibraryClaire |
morning #koha |
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josef_moravec |
morning #koha |
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LibraryClaire |
hi josef_moravec |
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josef_moravec |
hi LibraryClaire |
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magnuse |
~~~ |
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LibraryClaire |
hi magnuse |
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wahanui |
kamelåså |
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cait |
josef_moravec++ early and already on qa :) |
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josef_moravec |
cait: hi, yes, i want to do something before toot many people come and want me to do something for them (typical day in work) ;) |
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josef_moravec |
in work => at work, of course ;) |
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josef_moravec |
I hope... ;) |
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reiveune |
hello |
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wahanui |
privet, reiveune |
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josef_moravec |
cait: poll filled |
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fridolin |
hie there |
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cait |
josef_moravec: know the feeling - had to get this done before work too :) |
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alex_a |
bonnour |
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alex_a |
bonjour |
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josef_moravec |
hi alex_a |
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alex_a |
hi josef_moravec |
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LibraryClaire |
hi alex_a |
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cait |
good morning #koha .) |
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gaetan_B |
hello |
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mtj |
hey folks, does anyone know of any nice koha-docker repos? |
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mtj |
something production ready(ish?) |
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magnuse |
mtj: i know oslo public uses docker |
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magnuse |
in production |
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magnuse |
https://github.com/digibib/koha-docker |
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magnuse |
https://hub.docker.com/r/digibib/koha/ |
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marcelr |
hi #koha |
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LibraryClaire |
hi marcelr |
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marcelr |
:) |
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cait |
hm no 17.11 demo installation? all I tested so far are still 17.11 |
| 09:03 |
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cait |
i mean 17.05 |
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cait |
Equinox++ |
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cait |
gmcharlt++ |
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cait |
found one on the wiki https://wiki.koha-community.or[…]emo_Installations |
| 09:07 |
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cait |
404 when turning on ILL.... is this to be expected? |
| 09:18 |
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cait |
biblibre++ too |
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josef_moravec |
cait: I don't think so... On Kohadevbox it is ok, so maybe some problem with packages...I guess |
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cait |
josef_moravec: or missing config? I will file a bug report |
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josef_moravec |
cait: maybe - configuration of ILL module is not so user friendly |
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josef_moravec |
will change I guess, there is bug for it |
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cait |
hm new bugzilla component for ILL? |
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josef_moravec |
bug 19605 |
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huginn` |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=19605 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , ILL backends should be pluggable through regular Koha plugins |
| 09:20 |
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cait |
yeah |
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josef_moravec |
cait: looks like good idea |
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cait |
but might be something devs don't notice |
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cait |
the error - will file and see, can always be closed:) |
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josef_moravec |
cait: true |
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cait |
@later tell Joubu coudl/shoudl we add a new component on bugzilla for the ILL module? |
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huginn` |
cait: The operation succeeded. |
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ashimema |
@later tell kidclamp ldap should be easy, saml not so much, no idea about CAS |
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huginn` |
ashimema: The operation succeeded. |
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ashimema |
@later kidclamp feel free to catch me this afternoon (moring your time) when you're online |
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huginn` |
ashimema: I suck |
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LibraryClaire |
lol |
| 10:01 |
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tuxayo |
cait: What have I done? there twice the 17.11 BibLibre's demo. Thanks for making me notice that. |
| 10:01 |
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cait |
hm? |
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tuxayo |
cait: It was a poorly worded realization that I duplicated by mistake a line in the demo wiki page ^^ |
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cait |
ah :) i didn't notie |
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eythian |
hi |
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magnuse |
kia ora eythian |
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* eythian |
only has two remaining days of work before heading to summer |
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* magnuse |
only has today left before heading to gran canaria :-) |
| 10:44 |
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eythian |
oh nice |
| 10:49 |
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janPasi |
can anyone tell me about plack with koha? |
| 10:49 |
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janPasi |
we're having huge performance problems with it |
| 10:51 |
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janPasi |
it seems that as soon as we get more than a handful of users, everything gets really really slow |
| 10:51 |
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janPasi |
this wasn't a problem with older version of koha that we were using |
| 10:57 |
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tuxayo |
janPasi: which are the two versions you are talking about? |
| 10:57 |
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janPasi |
tuxayo: the old one was ancient 3.16 with LOTS of our own code |
| 10:58 |
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janPasi |
tuxayo: the new one is 17.06 (also with lots of our own code :D) |
| 10:58 |
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janPasi |
tuxayo: we're a fairly large public library, so there's all kinds of things that we needed Koha to do |
| 10:59 |
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tuxayo |
janPasi: wow that must have been a lot of work to perform such a version jump |
| 10:59 |
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janPasi |
tuxayo: ~2 million items / 200000 patrons and around 6 million yearly checkouts |
| 10:59 |
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janPasi |
tuxayo: yep :D |
| 11:00 |
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janPasi |
tuxayo: everything was fine in testing, but of course it all falls to pieces just before production |
| 11:00 |
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janPasi |
tuxayo: i'm pretty sure this is a problem with the amount of simultaneous users |
| 11:00 |
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tuxayo |
janPasi: I don't yet have enough experience to evaluate the size (well 200000 patrons seems "a lot" ^^) |
| 11:01 |
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tuxayo |
janPasi: so you don't have plack at all for now? |
| 11:01 |
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janPasi |
tuxayo: plack is up and running, but it doesn't seem to perform very well |
| 11:02 |
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tuxayo |
janPasi: oh this is sad. What are you value for "max_requests" and "workers" in the plack config? |
| 11:03 |
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janPasi |
tuxayo: at the moment 16 workers and 400 requests |
| 11:03 |
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janPasi |
tuxayo: the problem is i have no idea how those values should be :D |
| 11:03 |
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janPasi |
tuxayo: missing good pointers |
| 11:05 |
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tuxayo |
janPasi: 400 should be enough. As for the numbers of the workers, I don't know how to evaluate if the workers are overused or underused. |
| 11:05 |
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janPasi |
yep, that's a hard thing |
| 11:06 |
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tuxayo |
janPasi: The first is to find if Perl execution/compilation is the actual bottle neck. It could be the DB itself or having to access the DB over the network for intance |
| 11:07 |
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tuxayo |
*instance |
| 11:10 |
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janPasi |
db works perfectly, it's really well tried and tested :) |
| 11:11 |
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janPasi |
i think there is a fiber connection between the front-end server and db |
| 11:11 |
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janPasi |
so i'm pretty sure that's not the problem |
| 11:13 |
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janPasi |
i highly doubt that perl compilation/execution is a problem either, we have 32 cpu cores and 128GB memory :D |
| 11:14 |
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janPasi |
on two servers |
| 11:15 |
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tuxayo |
janPasi: then there is a network latency which is much higher than on localhost even with a very good network. |
| 11:15 |
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tuxayo |
Does anyone know how to check if the huge number of the DB queries having to go through a complete network stack is the bottleneck in this case? |
| 11:15 |
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tuxayo |
That a nice setup you got there :) |
| 11:15 |
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janPasi |
yeah, it's a fairly large system |
| 11:19 |
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janPasi |
area wise also, our library covers around 40.000 square kilometers |
| 11:19 |
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janPasi |
we have around 60 branches |
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tuxayo |
janPasi: I think you might be one the biggest instances on many metrics O_O https://hea.koha-community.org/ |
| 11:27 |
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janPasi |
tuxayo: yeah, we've been planning on enabling the reporting to hea |
| 11:28 |
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janPasi |
tuxayo: it would also be nice to get some of our code out to the community, but that's a bit complicated |
| 11:28 |
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janPasi |
tuxayo: mostly technically complicated, all our code is in github, so in theory it's there for anyone to use |
| 11:29 |
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janPasi |
tuxayo: we would definetely like to be able to participate the international koha development more |
| 11:29 |
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janPasi |
we have around 700 code changes of our own |
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janPasi |
that's far too much :D |
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oleonard |
Hi all |
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josef_moravec |
hi oleonard |
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wahanui |
hi oleopard |
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tuxayo |
janPasi: 700 patches? |
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cait |
can someone help me out with a quck question? looking for the piece of code in Koha that can convert marcxml/mrc |
| 13:03 |
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jenkins |
Project Koha_17.11_D8 build #16: SUCCESS in 35 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]Koha_17.11_D8/16/ |
| 13:03 |
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jenkins |
* david.bourgault: Bug 19683: Fix authority types in tools/export template |
| 13:03 |
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jenkins |
* fridolin.somers: Bug 19646: fix value_builder marc21_linking_section template |
| 13:03 |
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jenkins |
* m.de.rooy: Bug 19646: (QA follow-up) Fix tab character |
| 13:03 |
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jenkins |
* fridolin.somers: Bug 19640: fix OPAC IdRef webservice display |
| 13:03 |
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jenkins |
* josef.moravec: Bug 19456: Make patron-title ability to be generated with or without |
| 13:03 |
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jenkins |
* fridolin.somers: Bug 18833: Plugin unimarc_field_210c pagination error |
| 13:03 |
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huginn` |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=19683 normal, P5 - low, ---, david.bourgault, Pushed to Stable , Export.pl does not populate the Authority Types dropdown correctly |
| 13:03 |
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jenkins |
* kyle: Bug 19533: Hold pulldown for itemtype is empty if hold placement needs |
| 13:03 |
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jenkins |
* simon.pouchol: Bug 19692: fix unclosed div in opac-shelves.tt |
| 13:03 |
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huginn` |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=19646 major, P5 - low, ---, fridolin.somers, Pushed to Stable , value_builder marc21_linking_section template is broken |
| 13:03 |
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jenkins |
* david.bourgault: Bug 19681: Correct result count formatting |
| 13:03 |
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jenkins |
* oleonard: Bug 19643: Pagination buttons on staged marc management are stacking |
| 13:03 |
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jenkins |
* Nick Clemens: Bug 18990: Overdue Notices are not sending through SMS correctly |
| 13:04 |
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jenkins |
* cnighswonger: Bug 10222: Error when saving Demco label templates |
| 13:04 |
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jenkins |
* mtompset: Bug 10222: Correct and expand to other languages |
| 13:04 |
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huginn` |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=19640 normal, P5 - low, ---, fridolin.somers, Pushed to Stable , IdRef webservice display is broken |
| 13:04 |
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huginn` |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=19456 normal, P5 - low, ---, josef.moravec, Pushed to Stable , Some pages title tag contains html |
| 13:04 |
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jenkins |
* Jonathan Druart: Bug 7143: Update about page for new dev - Simon Pouchol |
| 13:04 |
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jenkins |
* Jonathan Druart: Bug 19638: Remove false positive obsolete reports (auth_header.marcxml) |
| 13:04 |
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jenkins |
* Nick Clemens: Bug 19724: Add timestamp to biblio_metadata and deletedbiblio_metadata |
| 13:04 |
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jenkins |
* Nick Clemens: Bug 19724: DBRev 17.11.00.001 |
| 13:04 |
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huginn` |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=18833 minor, P5 - low, ---, fridolin.somers, Pushed to Stable , plugin unimarc_field_210c pagination error |
| 13:04 |
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jenkins |
* Nick Clemens: Bug 19551: Fix wrong order of operations in cash register report |
| 13:04 |
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jenkins |
* oleonard: Bug 19595: Clicking plugin link does not fill item's date acquired field |
| 13:04 |
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huginn` |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=19533 minor, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Pushed to Stable , Hold pulldown for itemtype is empty if hold placement needs override |
| 13:04 |
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jenkins |
* oleonard: Bug 19602: Add usage statistics link to administration sidebar menu |
| 13:04 |
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jenkins |
* oleonard: Bug 19674: Broken indicators of changed fields in manage staged MARC |
| 13:04 |
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jenkins |
* victor.grousset: Bug 12497: Fix search history non-accessible when OPAC was private |
| 13:04 |
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jenkins |
* victor.grousset: Bug 12497: Fix OPAC search history reachable by URL even when disabled |
| 13:04 |
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jenkins |
* mtompset: Bug 18907: Build has deprecating message |
| 13:04 |
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jenkins |
* Jonathan Druart: Bug 19724: DBIC Schema changes |
| 13:04 |
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huginn` |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=19692 trivial, P5 - low, ---, simon.pouchol, Pushed to Stable , Unclosed div in opac-shelves.tt |
| 13:04 |
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huginn` |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=19681 trivial, P5 - low, ---, david.bourgault, Pushed to Stable , label-item-search.pl result count formatting error when there is only one page |
| 13:04 |
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huginn` |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=19643 normal, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Stable , Pagination buttons on staged marc management are stacking instead of inline |
| 13:04 |
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huginn` |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=18990 normal, P5 - low, ---, nick, Pushed to Stable , Overdue Notices are not sending through SMS correctly |
| 13:04 |
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huginn` |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=10222 normal, P5 - low, ---, mtompset, Pushed to Stable , Error when saving Demco label templates |
| 13:04 |
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huginn` |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7143 trivial, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, Pushed to Stable , Bug for tracking changes to the about page |
| 13:04 |
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huginn` |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=19638 normal, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Stable , False positives for 'Update SQL' button |
| 13:04 |
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huginn` |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=19724 normal, P5 - low, ---, julian.maurice, Pushed to Stable , Add timestamp to biblio_metadata and deletedbiblio_metadata |
| 13:04 |
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huginn` |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=19551 normal, P5 - low, ---, nick, Pushed to Stable , Cash register report has bad erroneous results from wrong order of operations |
| 13:04 |
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huginn` |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=19595 normal, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Stable , Clicking plugin link does not fill item's date acquired field |
| 13:04 |
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huginn` |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=19602 normal, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Stable , Add usage statistics link to administration sidebar menu |
| 13:04 |
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huginn` |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=19674 minor, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Stable , Broken indicators of changed fields in manage staged MARC records template |
| 13:04 |
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huginn` |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=12497 minor, P5 - low, ---, victor.grousset, Pushed to Stable , Make OPAC search history feature accessible when it should |
| 13:04 |
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huginn` |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=18907 trivial, P5 - low, ---, mtompset, Pushed to Stable , Warning "dpkg-source: warning: relation < is deprecated: use << or <=" |
| 13:06 |
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kidclamp |
convert to what cait? |
| 13:06 |
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janPasi |
tuxayo: 700 commits, yeah, around that |
| 13:06 |
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cait |
xml marc to non xml marc |
| 13:06 |
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cait |
question from a coworker |
| 13:06 |
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cait |
i think Koha can probably do it with the tools we use, but not sure where to start looking |
| 13:06 |
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janPasi |
tuxayo: we got rid of about a hundred on upgrade from 3.16 to 17.06 |
| 13:07 |
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cait |
as we work on marc records all the time and store xml |
| 13:07 |
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josef_moravec |
cait: maybe MARC::Record perl module? |
| 13:07 |
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cait |
looking at the documentation, got a bit lot maybe, rechecking :) |
| 13:08 |
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cait |
hm not spooting the right way to do it |
| 13:10 |
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| 13:10 |
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cait |
MARC::Record::new_from_xml maybe |
| 13:10 |
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cait |
ok,must be missing something, not seeing that in the MARC record documentation |
| 13:11 |
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cait |
*confused* |
| 13:12 |
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cait |
i think i found it |
| 13:12 |
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cait |
it's in MARC::File::XML |
| 13:13 |
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jcamins |
cait: that's not part of MARC::Record. You want MARC::File::MARCXML |
| 13:13 |
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jcamins |
Sorry, MARC::File::XML. |
| 13:13 |
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jcamins |
And you already figured that out. |
| 13:13 |
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jcamins |
:) |
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cait |
am I right that the MARC object can then be written out as a marc file somehow? :) |
| 13:14 |
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cait |
and hi jcamins :) |
| 13:15 |
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jcamins |
MARC::File::USMARC. :) |
| 13:15 |
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cait |
maybe as_formatted? |
| 13:16 |
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cait |
i guess there is some schema there :) |
| 13:16 |
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jcamins |
No, as_formatted is just pretty-printed text. |
| 13:16 |
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jcamins |
You want MARC::File::USMARC::encode() |
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cait |
thx a lot |
| 13:17 |
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cait |
jcamins++ |
| 13:27 |
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tuxayo |
janPasi: did those hundred get rid due to the new version having fulfilled the same need? Or was it because it they were too hard to maintain? |
| 13:29 |
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janPasi |
tuxayo: mostly because either the "official" community version of koha had same or similar functionality, or they had become otherwise obsolete |
| 13:29 |
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janPasi |
tuxayo: there are still a few changes made here that we would like to discard, but it all takes time :) |
| 13:30 |
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janPasi |
i think i got that sluggishness in control by tuning up plack variables in koha-conf.xml |
| 13:30 |
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tuxayo |
janPasi: good, no loss due to the upgrade if I understand correctly? :) |
| 13:30 |
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janPasi |
tuxayo: nope, it's all good in that sense :) |
| 13:31 |
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tuxayo |
janPasi: plack: nice, just the workers and max_requests? |
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tuxayo: yep, 32/800, sounds insane to me, but hey, it works |
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tuxayo: well see if we need to adjust them later on |
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janPasi |
*we'll |
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tuxayo |
janPasi: 1 request over 400 having to recompile shouldn't be a problem. Then it was the number of workers? Were all the 16 previous workers active (CPU 100% or waiting for IO (DB)) when Koha was slow. |
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janPasi |
nope, we had about 10% load then :D |
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janPasi |
the library is closed for the upgrade, so not much use at all |
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janPasi |
no i/o waits either |
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janPasi |
we normally run somewere between 40-60% load during opening hours |
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janPasi |
with practically no i/o delay, we have a SAN system that automatically optimizes itself |
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janPasi |
it's an array of SSD's and rotating disks |
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janPasi |
plut the index is kept in ram all the time |
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janPasi |
*plus |
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janPasi |
tuxayo: why do i still only see two starman processes in process list? |
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* tuxayo |
sent a long message: tuxayo_2017-12-14_13:45:27.txt <https://matrix.org/_matrix/med[…]CjWgLohUBgqwvfbVW> |
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tuxayo |
janPasi: you should see 1 master and N workers. (maybe they are started on demand to not have 32 processes starting at the same time starman/plack is started) |
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janPasi |
tuxayo: i'm using nmon because it gives me a nice graph, there is no i/o delay there, it would show up |
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tuxayo |
janPasi: I didn't know nmon, looks nice :) |
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janPasi |
it's pretty nice, it can do logging also, so you get long term statistics with it fairly easily |
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janPasi |
well it doesn't actually follow koha-conf.xml :D |
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janPasi |
the plack config that is |
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janPasi |
you have to change it in the initscript |
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* LeeJ |
waves |
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LeeJ |
hi #koha |
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kidclamp |
Joubu around? |
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kidclamp |
hmmm...not yet |
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LeeJ |
kidclamp: thanks for helping me get that code fix of mine added so quickly the other day :) |
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kidclamp |
np LeeJ |
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marcelr |
pvs |
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marcelr |
oops |
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kidclamp |
hi marcelr |
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marcelr |
hi kidclamp |
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marcelr |
lvs |
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LeeJ |
hi marcelr |
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marcelr |
hi LeeJ |
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janPasi |
turns out the plack-initscript is one of ours too, so there... :D |
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janPasi |
have to fix it tomorrow |
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kidclamp |
@later tell Joubu pingme about 19776 |
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kidclamp: The operation succeeded. |
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clrh_ |
oh nice, I see sandbox.bywatersolutions.com does the code published somewhere kidclamp khall ? |
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kidclamp |
LibraryClaire++ |
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kidclamp |
clrh++ |
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kidclamp |
increment all the claires |
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LibraryClaire |
claires++ |
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clrh |
it's just a bws++ me,I did nothing =D |
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so can someone elaborate on C4::Debug? To use it is it basically just "$debug and warn 'Debug message'"? |
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tuxayo |
Cheap automated testing idea: have a bot that clicks on random links and see if there is a 500 error. |
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tuxayo |
That way it could be ran on the demos DBs and find regressions with existing data. See BZ 19808 for 3 examples of regressions (one or two are critical) that could have been found this way. |
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oleonard |
tuxayo: I think that's what selenium tests are? |
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tuxayo |
oleonard: oh, they are random? |
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oleonard |
No, not random |
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tuxayo |
oleonard: The idea is to have basic exploratory testing that could be ran on multiple DBs. Does that seem useful? |
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cait |
tcohen++ |
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tcohen |
thanks |
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cait |
tuxayo: I think randomwon't get you so far with koha, because you need to input things here and there or search |
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oleonard |
tuxayo: I think most problems surface when testing multiple steps with user input rather than just links. |
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cait |
alexbuckley has done a lot of work on selenium tests - if you look for sleenium in bugzilla |
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Joubu |
hi #koha |
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tuxayo |
\o Joubu |
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tuxayo |
cait: Thanks, there are a lot of scenarios indeed. |
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tuxayo |
Wouldn't randomess find enough basic issues? (like whole 500 error pages) |
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tuxayo |
oleonard: Filling inputs could be also done, that would test error handling ^^ |
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oleonard |
tuxayo: If you build something useful it will be useful :) |
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tuxayo |
oleonard_: of course ^^ The idea is to estimate the ROI of such a thing. |
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Joubu |
cait: ILL component created |
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tuxayo |
Joubu: I confirm that I can work on BZ 19808. For now I have a scenario that doesn't depend on some test DB. I can't finally go into the code to fix the issue. |
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Joubu |
tuxayo: I did not get it, you can work on it but cannot fix the issue? |
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cait |
Joubu: thx :) |
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tuxayo |
Joubu: s/For now/Now |
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tuxayo |
Sorry for the confusion, I can work and reproduce it. And it seems rather simple to fix. |
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barton |
@later tell larryb cindy has an attachement that needs to be removed from an rt ticket; I've been pounding my head against the rt-shredder documentation and could use a second pair of eyes. Thanks! |
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huginn` |
barton: The operation succeeded. |
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barton |
ack, wrong channel. |
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* cait |
hands barton the cookie jar |
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* barton |
deposits a mackeroon. |
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cait |
was more to take one .) |
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Joubu |
cait, kidclamp, josef_moravec: just created https://tree.taiga.io/project/[…]ha-rm-1711/us/138 hope that makes sense |
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tuxayo |
Coding guidelines question: Which of the two following? (Or is there another better option?) |
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tuxayo |
A: if ( not defined $patrons ) { next; } |
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tuxayo |
B: next if ( not defined $patrons ); |
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* barton |
is tempted to expound on the origins of browser cookies, but is afriad that he will go down a several hour rabbit hole. Do a google search for Dan O'Niel / Odd Bodkins, if you've got a couple of hours to kill, it's a trip worth taking. |
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Joubu |
tuxayo: definitely it's: "next unless defined $patrons;" |
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tuxayo |
Joubu: thanks :) |
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cait |
thx :) |
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LeeJ |
barton++ |
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LeeJ |
:) |
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cait |
LeeJ: I cleaned up the general kanban a bit - i assigned you some tasks I had befor to do with documentation, not sure if youwant to continue/close them |
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reiveune |
bye |
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Joubu |
@later tell rangi from help.pl we have "See the full documentation for Koha in the manual (online)." the link is https://koha-community.org/manual/17.11/html/ which returns a 404, could you add a redirect to https://koha-community.org/manual/17.11/en/html/ ? |
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huginn` |
Joubu: The operation succeeded. |
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Joubu |
@later tell rangi well, there are all the others as well :-/ https://koha-community.org/man[…]acquisitions.html |
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huginn` |
Joubu: The operation succeeded. |
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LeeJ |
cait: okay! I'll take a look at them. Thanks! |
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jenkins |
Project Koha_17.11_D8 build #17: SUCCESS in 29 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]Koha_17.11_D8/17/ |
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jenkins |
* aleishaamohia: Bug 19496: Fixing to_address for patron notes |
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jenkins |
* Jonathan Druart: Bug 19496: ReplytoDefault is a pref, not a C4::Context method |
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jenkins |
* Jonathan Druart: Bug 7143: Update about page for new dev - Victor Grousset |
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huginn` |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=19496 major, P5 - low, ---, aleisha, Pushed to Stable , Patron notes about item does not get emailed as indicated |
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jenkins |
* Jonathan Druart: Bug 19775: Try & prevent Search/History.t to fail randomly |
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jenkins |
* oleonard: Bug 19751: Holds awaiting pickup report should not be fixed-width |
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jenkins |
* josef.moravec: Bug 19292: Add MARC code column on libraries list |
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jenkins |
* m.de.rooy: Bug 19439: Remove eval with exit statements from opac/unapi |
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jenkins |
* m.de.rooy: Bug 19439: (follow-up) Remove four spaces from lines 133-149 |
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huginn` |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7143 trivial, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, Pushed to Stable , Bug for tracking changes to the about page |
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huginn` |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=19775 normal, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Stable , Search/History.t is failing randomly |
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huginn` |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=19751 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , Holds awaiting pickup report should not be fixed-width |
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huginn` |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=19292 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, josef.moravec, Pushed to Stable , Add MARC code column on libraries list |
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huginn` |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=19439 major, P5 - low, ---, m.de.rooy, Pushed to Stable , Some error responses from opac/unapi get lost in eval |
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magnuse |
have fun #koha - see y'all after xmas! |
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huginn` |
New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 19776: (follow-up) remove dup category_type keys <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]38dddc6090c1b541f> |
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rangi |
@later tell Joubu I can but wouldn't it be better to let people pick the language of the manual they want to see? |
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huginn` |
rangi: The operation succeeded. |
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rangi |
I'll do the redirect for now, but it would be good to get it hooked to the language the staff client is in, to choose the right link |
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LeeJ |
can anyone shed some light on how to make output print to the log files? Can't seem to get it to work for debugging purposes |
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rangi |
which log file? |
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rangi |
and which process? |
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LeeJ |
any really..just trying to get some sort of log output |
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rangi |
well then the answer is it depends |
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rangi |
:) |
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rangi |
you really need to know which log you are trying to get output to, and from what process |
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Joubu |
rangi: yes definitely but we need to fix existing links asap |
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rangi |
ie if you're talking SIP, thats gonna be syslog |
| 19:18 |
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LeeJ |
I'm working on improving my booking plugin but some data isn't printing out and I was trying to log the output somehow to see what was going on |
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rangi |
plack is going to be plack-error.log |
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rangi |
Joubu: its being rewritten now |
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rangi |
so the links will work |
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Joubu |
perfect, thanks! |
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rangi |
LeeJ: if you are running just cgi, it will be one of the apache error logs (using a warn) |
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rangi |
hopefully that helps the annoying thing with plack-error.log is it has staff and public interface stuff in it, same with plack.log |
| 19:21 |
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rangi |
would be good to separate that out |
| 19:23 |
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LeeJ |
thanks rangi...I added in some warns so I should find it somewhere. Just have to figure out which log file :P |
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rangi |
are you running plack? it should be in plack-error.log under /var/log/koha/instancename/ |
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wahanui |
Hmm. No matches for that, rangi. |
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LeeJ |
yes I'm running plack |
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LeeJ |
for some reason warns hadn't been printing there but I'm going to try again |
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rangi |
you do need to restart plack each time |
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rangi |
(just in case) |
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LeeJ |
okay I'll give it a try :) |
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LeeJ |
gahhh |
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LeeJ |
rangi: if I write "warn 'Testing logging!';" that should still log in plack-error.log? Because it's not :( |
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LeeJ |
ah! it didn't write it to plack-error.log..it wrote it to intranet-error.log |
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rangi |
it should yes, as long as the script you are writing it in is the one being executed :) |
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rangi |
ahh hmm then it isnt running under plack |
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rangi |
worth noting that |
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LeeJ |
that's strange...plack is running |
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LeeJ |
wonder if this is in any way related to the plugin error with plack from a while ago |
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rangi |
it might be that plugins aren't in the path that plack executes |
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rangi |
might have to check the apache config |
| 19:47 |
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LeeJ |
but oddly enough the logging wasn't working with plack not running |
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LeeJ |
ugh...RIP Net Neutrality :( |
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rangi |
weird |
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rangi |
and yeah, thats a mess |
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LeeJ |
it is weird..I'm trying to run a SELECT query method and return the results for display..the query via method doesn't return anything but it DOES return results using koha-mysql with the same identical query |
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jenkins |
Project Koha_Master_D8 build #311: SUCCESS in 43 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]ha_Master_D8/311/ |
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jenkins |
Jonathan Druart: Bug 19776: (follow-up) remove dup category_type keys |
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huginn` |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=19776 normal, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Master , Test failing randomly - fix categorycode vs category_type |
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* LeeJ |
smashes head off desk |
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huginn` |
New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 19767: Remove unused serial-issues.pl script <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]9bd92b1ffc10036d7> / Bug 18330: (follow-up) Adapt holds.t to match the new datetime format <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]e3671f6119ad56357> / Bug 18330: Handle date-time in Koha::Object->TO_JSON <http://git.koha-community.org/gitwe |
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* cait |
waves |
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* LeeJ |
waves to cait |
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cait |
:) |
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pastebot |
"LeeJ" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "Is anything in this written wrong?" (29 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/113 |
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LeeJ |
what did I write wrong that would cause this method to always return nothing? |
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Joubu |
you should use $dbh->selectall_arrayref($query, {Slice => {}}) |
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Joubu |
but it will not fix your problem |
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Joubu |
I guess the query returns 0 row :) |
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LeeJ |
Joubu: the weird thing is the same query actually returns 2 results (as it should) via koha-mysql |
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rangi |
can anyone remember, what value you need to set the LOST authorised value to, so that when you mark something lost it returns it off a borrowers card? |
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LeeJ |
rangi: I believe it's 3 (Lost and Paid For) |
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rangi |
thanks |
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cait |
it all does |
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cait |
doesn't matter |
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rangi |
even negative? |
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cait |
but you need to return it from the items tab not the edit item form |
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cait |
all the default values we have are positive, never tried negative |
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cait |
but if you return from the item form = remians on the account, if you return from detai page, items tab = gets returend |
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rangi |
thanks cait |
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cait |
http://bywatersolutions.com/2015/02/23/lost-koha/ |
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LeeJ |
cait++ |
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cait |
and with the longoverdues script you can choose i think (but i remember there was some bug there) |
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rangi |
right, this is just for my kids chool |
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rangi |
school even |
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rangi |
marking books lost from the interface at the end of the year |
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LeeJ |
that makes sense |
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LeeJ |
ugh...I've given up on figuring out that problem for today. It gave me a migraine |
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* cait |
hands LeeJ the cookie jar |
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cait |
ginger bread cookies with lemon icing |
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Joubu |
bug 12363 |
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Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=12363 major, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Master , Marking an item as lost in koha always returns it, but longoverdue.pl may not |
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LeeJ |
oooooh |
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LeeJ |
those sound delicious |
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cait |
and sprinkles! |
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LeeJ |
:D |
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Joubu |
('always' is wrong) |
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Joubu |
gmcharlt_: Hi, Are you admin of https://gitlab.com/koha-community? |
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Joubu |
someone else here? |
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Joubu |
mtj: ^? |
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wahanui |
^ is what I think too |
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cait |
not me |
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cait |
:) |
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gmcharlt_ |
Joubu: not me either |
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Joubu |
ok, certainly mtj then :) |
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* cait |
thinks that's a good guess |
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LeeJ |
well I'm gonna head out for some R & R to get rid of this headache |
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LeeJ |
have a good night all |
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cait |
LeeJ: goodnight, get better |
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LeeJ |
cait: thanks! :) |
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* Jonathan Druart: Bug 19560: Correctly escape branchcode in admin/branches.pl |
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* alexbuckley: Bug 19514: Implement password restrictions into onboarding tool |
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* Jonathan Druart: Bug 19514: Add client-side check |
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* oleonard: Bug 19758: Move template JavaScript to the footer: Serials, part 1 |
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* oleonard: Bug 19761: Move template JavaScript to the footer: Serials, part 2 |
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* oleonard: Bug 19777: Move template JavaScript to the footer: Serials, part 3 |
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Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=19560 normal, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Master , Unable to delete library when branchcode contains special characters |
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* oleonard: Bug 19778: Move template JavaScript to the footer: Serials, part 4 |
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* oleonard: Bug 19607: Move admin templates JavaScript to the footer: Basic |
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Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=19514 major, P3, ---, alexbuckley, Pushed to Master , No Password restrictions in onboarding tool patron creation |
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* oleonard: Bug 19627: Move patron clubs templates JS to the footer |
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* oleonard: Bug 19627: (follow-up) Include tools-menu.js on required templates |
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* oleonard: Bug 19663: Move JS to the footer: Reports |
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* lari.taskula: Bug 18330: Add RFC3339 to Koha::DateUtils |
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Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=19758 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , Move template JavaScript to the footer: Serials, part 1 |
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* lari.taskula: Bug 18330: Handle date-time in Koha::Object->TO_JSON |
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* Tomás Cohen Arazi: Bug 18330: (follow-up) Adapt holds.t to match the new datetime format |
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Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=19761 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , Move template JavaScript to the footer: Serials, part 2 |
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* oleonard: Bug 19767: Remove unused serial-issues.pl script |
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Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=19777 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , Move template JavaScript to the footer: Serials, part 3 |
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Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=19778 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , Move template JavaScript to the footer: Serials, part 4 |
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Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=19607 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , Move admin templates JavaScript to the footer: Basic parameters |
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Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=19627 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , Move patron clubs templates JS to the footer |
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Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=19663 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , Move JS to the footer: Reports |
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Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=18330 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, lari.taskula, Pushed to Master , REST API: Date-time handling |
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Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=19767 minor, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , serial-issues.pl is unused and should be removed |
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Jonathan Druart: Bug 19655: Use ->build instead of build_object in 16.11.x |
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Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=19655 critical, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Pushed to Stable , To.json doesn't escape newlines which can create invalid JSON |
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