IRC log for #koha, 2017-07-19

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02:16 mtj ping rangi, are you about for a quick SAML chat this arvo?
02:18 mtj ..ive had some success with mod_mellon, but am missing a few clues too
02:42 BobB mtj rangi is prolly traveling back to Wellington today
02:47 ibeardslee he was in the office earlier
02:56 mtompset Greetings, mtj BobB ibeardslee :)
02:57 mtompset mtj: oh the fun that is SAML. :)
02:58 mtompset Glad I don't have to worry about that any more. Had a middle-ware PHP hack deal with it, and wrote encrypted negotiation service for ... but the Google OpenID stuff ... good enough for me now. :)
03:01 mtompset Have a great day (24 hour period), #koha mtj BobB ibeardslee (and probably wizzyrea hiding somewhere )
03:02 mtj i agree with openid...
03:13 wizzyrea :)
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05:22 * ashimema is interested to know what mtj is doing with SAML in this context?
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05:22 * ashimema has never used mod_mellon.. just googled it and it looks interesting..
05:24 mtj hi ashimema, i'm poking at a Koha+SAML setup
05:24 ashimema why not mod_shib then?
05:25 ashimema is mellon a drop in replacement for shibboleth service provider + mod_shib
05:25 * ashimema is still reading mellon docs
05:26 mtj 1/ client prefers SAML, 2/ rangi mentioned that mellon is an easy setup... and 'just works'?
05:26 * ashimema has shibboleth (saml2) working with koha sp + adfs, azure, shibboleth and simplesamlphp idp's so far
05:26 ashimema ok.
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05:27 ashimema mellon is right?
05:28 mtj ..its my vague hunch that mellon must work outside of Koha's internal auth stuff - how that would actually work is beyond me
05:28 mtj yep, that mellon :)
05:29 ashimema ooh.. is it by the Feide guys
05:29 ashimema cool.. they also wrote simplesamlphp I believe
05:29 ashimema and when I wrote the shibboleth stuff for koha their test IdP was extremely helpful
05:29 mtj this is interesting to me... ->[…]-perl-webapp.html
05:30 ashimema have you read https://wiki.koha-community.or[…]eth_Configuration
05:30 ashimema I should update it a bit..
05:30 ashimema but for me that was by far the simplest route to goal
05:31 ashimema there seems to be some confusion between SAML2 and Shibboleth.. they are basicalyl synonyms at this point in my understanding ;)
05:32 ashimema But.. I will be the first to admit the shibboleth service provider package is heavy
05:32 mtj yep ... ive read all that ^
05:33 mtj dobrica says 'I didn't need to modify Koha at all because it already has support for HTTP authorization.'
05:34 ashimema koha already has support for saml2 auth now
05:34 ashimema ;)
05:34 ashimema I never managed to get authmemcookie to work in dobrica's way
05:35 * ashimema has been round that loop a bunch of times a bunch of years ago
05:37 mtj i do intend to try a shib setup too - i just had a quick look at mellon :)
05:37 ashimema I'd be very interested to see what milage you get from mello.. looks very interesting
05:38 mtj ashimema: i also am a bit confused about the diff. btw SAML and shib
05:38 ashimema couple of points..
05:38 ashimema it looks like it passes attributes in the same way that shibboleth does by default..
05:38 ashimema using environment variables
05:38 ashimema if you're using plack that won't work
05:39 ashimema you'll need to convert those environment variables to headers during the proxy process
05:39 ashimema shibboleth == saml ;)
05:39 ashimema saml is the token 'shape'
05:39 ashimema shibboleth is an implementation
05:40 ashimema so shibboleth == saml but saml != shibboleth
05:40 ashimema however.. I'm yet to come accross a saml token that shibboleth can't handle
05:41 mtj great info, thanks :)
05:41 ashimema > The Shibboleth software implements widely used federated identity standards, principally the OASIS Security Assertion Markup Language (SAML), to provide a federated single sign-on and attribute exchange framework.
05:41 ashimema direct quote from the shibboleth homepage.. shibboleth is a software that implients saml ;)
05:41 ashimema took me ages to understand that..
05:42 ashimema shibboleth isn't a protocol or scheme.. it's just pair of software products (IdP and SP) that implements SAML..
05:43 ashimema so it's more akin to say shibboleth is like adfs or azure or simplesamlphp or mod_auth_mellon than to say it's SAML.. those all support SAML
05:43 mtj too easy :p
05:43 ashimema :)
05:43 ashimema hope that helps anyways
05:43 * ashimema best go get the girls ready for school
05:44 mtj indeed :)
05:44 ashimema there are a bunch of additional koha patches in bugzilla adding additional handling for saml attributes btw.. I'm happy to rebase them when someone looks at them.. most of them I have running in production in various places
05:49 mtj ok thanks, ill try to take a look at them
05:53 cait @later tell fridolin can you take a look at bug 16711 please?
05:53 huginn cait: The operation succeeded.
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06:32 zefanja I have a problem with rebuilding the zebra index. I'm using Koha on Ubuntu 16.04 in a LXC container. I always get the following error:
06:32 zefanja error retrieving biblio 7267 at /usr/share/koha/bin/migrat​ion_tools/ line 683, <DATA> line 755.
06:33 zefanja I worked before but since I undo some imports, it stop working
06:35 zefanja It looks like that there is an error with my records I like to import. Is there a way to get a more detailed error message where zebra failed to parse the raw marc21 data?
06:38 zefanja the import itself is fine. Just the indexer seems to the problem.
06:39 BobB zefanja have you had a look at biblio 7267? It might be corrupt?
06:40 zefanja this was just an example. I get this error for all of my imported records.
06:40 BobB oops
06:42 BobB what happens if you go to this page:
06:43 BobB https://YOUR_KOHA_STAFF_CLIENT/https:/cgi-bin/koha​/catalogue/
06:44 BobB ?
06:44 BobB (substitute you own address of course
06:44 BobB there's an error there
06:45 BobB https://YOUR_KOHA_STAFF_CLIENT/cgi-bin/koha/cat​alogue/
06:45 BobB that's better
06:46 BobB If that displays a good record, you have a zebra problem, otherwise you probably have a problem with your biblio records
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06:49 zefanja BobB: no error, I can view the record just fine.
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06:49 BobB ok, how did you install Koha, from Debian packages or from a tarball?
06:49 fridolin hie tehre
06:50 BobB hi fridolin
06:50 zefanja BobB: Debian packages
06:50 wahanui Debian packages is, like, a good way
06:51 zefanja it worked fine (also with my imported records). But then I undo some imports, because I had duplicate entries. Than it stop working when I tried to add new records (maybe it stop before, but I noticed it when I've tried to reimport some records)
06:52 zefanja BobB: could it be a cache problem?
06:52 BobB Is this the documentation you are using?
06:52 BobB https://wiki.koha-community.or[…]ges#Zebra-related
06:53 BobB yes, it could definitely be a cache problem
06:53 zefanja BobB: yes, I did  sudo koha-rebuild-zebra -f -v  instancename
06:53 zefanja BobB: How do I clean the cache?
06:53 BobB do you plack enabled?
06:54 zefanja BobB: hmm...I don't know. I haven't enabled it.
06:55 BobB ok, it sounds like its more than a browser cache prolbem though
06:58 BobB zefanja, I would suggest that you stop zebra, restart it and try again to run Koha-rebuild-zebra
06:58 BobB if that does not work, you need someone with more knowledge than me to help you (:
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07:01 zefanja BobB: Thank you for your ideas. Stopping and restarting zebra didn't help :(
07:01 BobB (: sorry
07:01 zefanja maybe I should write to the mailing list
07:04 BobB yeah, no-one else here is jumping in, so that might be the best way now
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07:12 fridolin zefanja: your catalog is MARC21 ?
07:12 fridolin my 2c
07:14 zefanja fridolin: yes
07:15 fridolin oki then, its the default MARC flavour at install
07:16 zefanja fridolin: I've imported the records in a custom framework (but tried the default one, too)
07:19 fridolin ah oki
07:19 * fridolin no idea
07:19 zefanja fridolin: no problem. I'm using the german version of the default flavour. Could that be a problem?
07:24 fridolin whouuuu
07:25 fridolin zefanja: which MARC ?
07:25 fridolin this flavour is configured inside zebra engine also
07:26 fridolin but i bet it is compatible with MARC21, you just have to keep important fields in the same place
07:26 fridolin keep the links : cgi-bin/koha/admin/
07:27 fridolin is biblionumber on 999$c ?
07:27 zefanja fridolin: yes, I haven't changed things in the koha to marc mapping
07:27 zefanja yes
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07:30 fridolin ah
07:31 fridolin this could break the indexing
07:32 fridolin check all mappings exists like in MARC21 default framework I'd say
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07:33 gaetan_B hello
07:33 wahanui salut, gaetan_B
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07:54 * fridolin created Bug 18955
07:54 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=18955 major, P5 - low, ---, fridolin.somers, Needs Signoff , autocomplete is on in OPAC password recovery
07:55 fridolin dirty privacy bug in my opinion
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08:51 eythian hi
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09:11 jenkins Project Koha_17.05.x_D8 build #4: STILL UNSTABLE in 1 hr 54 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]oha_17.05.x_D8/4/
09:11 jenkins fridolin.somers: Bug 16711: OPAC Password recovery: Handling if multiple accounts have
09:11 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=16711 normal, P5 - low, ---, veron, Pushed to Stable , OPAC Password recovery: Handling if multiple accounts have the same mail address
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10:15 cait fridolin: commented on bug 16711
10:15 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=16711 normal, P5 - low, ---, veron, Pushed to Stable , OPAC Password recovery: Handling if multiple accounts have the same mail address
10:17 fridolin cait: yep oki
10:17 fridolin help text should be corrected then
10:18 fridolin it says enter loggin "and" email
10:18 fridolin but in my opinion cardnumber or login should be mandatory
10:19 fridolin whithout it, one could use a bot to check random email adresses to SPAM
10:19 cait yeah i can agree with that
10:19 cait having one of them makes sense to me
10:19 cait i am just worried that the feature as is is not really useful for a lot of libraries now
10:19 cait at least wouldn#t be for a lot of ours
10:19 cait they have their cardnumber, but no idea about userid
10:20 cait and the userid gets rid of accents, umlauts etc. so it's not always easy to explain how they can enter the right thing
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10:49 fridolin cait: new comment on Bug 18616
10:49 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=18616 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , The "Add forgot password link to OPAC" should allow patrons to use their library card number in addition to username
10:49 cait :)
10:50 fridolin i found a privacy pb I thinks
10:50 cait hm
10:50 fridolin passw recovery form is always a bit difficult on websites, it should not be that easy on our OPAC
10:50 cait so the form asks for login cardnumber and then shows you the email?
10:50 fridolin yep
10:50 cait so you could guess to find out people's emails
10:51 fridolin so one can take the card from someone else and post twice to know email
10:51 cait commented too
10:51 cait thx for checking!
10:51 fridolin there is no capcha so a bot could use this to SPAM all users
10:51 cait @later tell Joubu can you take a look at discussion on bug 18616 plz?
10:51 huginn cait: The operation succeeded.
10:52 fridolin by cardnumber brut force
10:52 cait yeah also privacy
10:53 fridolin even whitouth sequential, simply brutforce 1 to 1 billion form post on OPAC
10:54 fridolin i"m not an expert on web crawling but i think it makes it easy
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11:21 marcelr hi #koha
11:25 cait hi marcelr
11:25 marcelr o/
11:26 JesseM Good morning
11:26 wahanui well, it's morning somewhere, yes
11:26 marcelr hi JesseM
11:26 JesseM hi marcelr
11:28 JesseM Is there a way to see if bug 18435 is in 16.11.07 ?
11:28 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=18435 major, P5 - low, ---, nick, Pushed to Stable , Message about Materials specified does not display when items are checked out and checked in
11:28 marcelr use git log
11:30 JesseM Thank you
11:30 JesseM doesn't look like it is
11:31 marcelr the report says: will be in 16.11.08
11:31 JesseM yes and there is it. :)
11:32 JesseM Thx
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12:06 * LeeJ waves
12:07 * LibraryClaire waves
12:07 LeeJ morning #koha
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12:10 cait morning LeeJ
12:11 * LeeJ waves to cait and LibraryClaire
12:24 marcelr hi LeeJ
12:24 marcelr anyone in for a 5 minute signoff ?
12:24 marcelr bug 18951 needs you
12:24 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=18951 normal, P5 - low, ---,, Needs Signoff , Some t/Biblio tests are database dependent
12:24 marcelr and i need it for bug 10306
12:24 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=10306 major, P5 - low, ---,, ASSIGNED , Allow duplicate Koha to Marc mappings (say publication info in MARC21 260 or RDA 264)
12:25 marcelr which is of some importance :)
12:25 LeeJ hi marcelr! Give me about 3 minutes to boot up my laptop and I'll take a look at them :)
12:26 marcelr i should have 3 mins :) thanks
12:32 LeeJ marcelr: just waiting for master to update...haven't worked on this laptop in a week :)
12:33 marcelr dev are always waiting ;)
12:33 marcelr devs
12:33 marcelr press any key to continue
12:35 * LeeJ facerolls keyboard
12:38 LeeJ marcelr: especially when you're 121 commits behind :P
12:38 marcelr ahhh
12:40 eythian fridolin: all those entry points ought to have rate limiting to prevent brute force attacks.
12:41 eythian (not that they do, but they _should_)
12:42 fridolin indeed
12:43 fridolin that is the force of human validation ;)
12:43 LeeJ marcelr: there you go!
12:44 marcelr cool
12:50 LeeJ I swear..if this problem that's been plaguing me with devbox testing on Windows turns out to be this read-only folder permission I'm going to flip a table
12:52 marcelr thx LeeJ++ for signing off
12:52 LeeJ marcelr: any time!
12:54 marcelr wish i had a DND suffix :)
12:57 eythian marcelr: you can play Dungeons and Dragons whenever you like.
12:58 marcelr your assumption might be "on gespannen voet met de waarheid"
12:58 marcelr just around 50%
12:58 marcelr you should get that one already
12:58 marcelr on=op
12:59 eythian heh
12:59 eythian I thought op=op
12:59 marcelr so true
12:59 LeeJ @roll
12:59 huginn LeeJ: I'll give you the answer as soon as RDA is ready
12:59 marcelr good Dutch expression
12:59 LeeJ hmm..I thought there was a dice command? lol
12:59 marcelr RDA will never be ready
12:59 LeeJ xD
12:59 LeeJ @rolldice
12:59 huginn LeeJ: I'll give you the answer just as soon as RDA is ready
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13:00 LeeJ :(
13:00 LeeJ ah!
13:00 LeeJ @dice 1d20
13:00 huginn LeeJ: 10
13:00 LeeJ :D
13:01 marcelr @dice
13:01 huginn marcelr: (dice <dice>d<sides>) -- Rolls a die with <sides> number of sides <dice> times. For example, 2d6 will roll 2 six-sided dice; 10d10 will roll 10 ten-sided dice.
13:01 marcelr ok
13:01 LeeJ :D
13:02 marcelr @dice 200d200
13:02 huginn marcelr: Error: You can't roll more than 6 dice.
13:02 marcelr stupid dice
13:02 LeeJ I find it funny you can't roll more than 6 but the instructions have 10d10 as an example
13:02 LeeJ @dice 10d10
13:02 huginn LeeJ: Error: You can't roll more than 6 dice.
13:02 marcelr you found a bug !
13:02 LeeJ I did!
13:02 marcelr documentation bug
13:03 LeeJ who handles huginn so I can let them know?
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13:06 tcohen hola #koha
13:16 LeeJ morning tcohen!
13:17 marcelr hola tcohen
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13:17 tcohen hi LeeJ marcelr
13:17 marcelr tcohen: bug 18951 is ready for your QA approval :)
13:17 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=18951 normal, P5 - low, ---,, Signed Off , Some t/Biblio tests are database dependent
13:17 marcelr its tests !
13:17 tcohen marcelr: awesome
13:18 marcelr i need it for something more complicated
13:18 marcelr duplicate koha to marc mappings
13:18 tcohen I'm about to re-test bug 18137, because it's been ready for push for a while, and we really need it
13:18 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=18137 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, lari.taskula, Passed QA , REST API: Migrate from Mojolicious::Plugin::Swagger2 to Mojolicious::Plugin::OpenAPI
13:19 marcelr why did it stay in the queue ?
13:19 marcelr another one too for rest api
13:19 tcohen all work on the REST api needs to be based on that bug, because it moves from the old Swagger2 plugin to the new one
13:20 marcelr if you need to jump, you might as well do it one day
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13:36 tcohen @seen drojf
13:36 huginn tcohen: drojf was last seen in #koha 2 weeks, 5 days, 5 hours, 3 minutes, and 8 seconds ago: <drojf> of the ausnahmezustand?
13:36 cait tcohen: might be better to email him
13:36 tcohen cait: already did
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14:30 Joubu cait, fridolin: I think we should remove the private flag on bug 18616, the patches are only in master
14:30 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=18616 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , The "Add forgot password link to OPAC" should allow patrons to use their library card number in addition to username
14:30 Joubu so we can get opinions from authors
14:31 fridolin Joubu: yes but we are speaking about a security issue existing in stable branches
14:32 fridolin meaning 18956
14:32 Joubu not in stable
14:32 fridolin Joubu: yes but with loggin
14:32 fridolin this enh makes it worst by adding cardnumber
14:33 fridolin i found the security issue while working on this bug but it is not directly dependant
14:33 fridolin you repriduce ?
14:33 Joubu that does not sound so critical to me
14:36 Joubu fridolin: are you going to submit a patch?
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15:13 Joubu Please QA bug 18851 ASAP
15:13 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=18851 major, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Signed Off , use Test::DBIx::Class in tests breaks packaging
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15:31 everyday curious if anyone knows a way to help automate a project I have. We have many poorly done marc records from our old system that got imported. Maybe a couple thousand. Where things like the authors name will have "Grisham, John" and below that "Grisham, John." and below that "Grisham, John," can I reconcile all these into ONE version of that authors name? I am preparing to have to do it individually if need be, but don't really wanna have to
15:31 everyday go that route
15:34 cait are you using authorities?
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16:14 LeeJ cait: good job scaring them away! ;)
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16:59 Flusskiesel Hello!
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17:27 paulofrancisco_antonio Hi everybody
17:27 wahanui Hi, Doctor Nick!
17:27 paulofrancisco_antonio I installed koha 17.05 version o ubuntu server and created a koha instance name bdigital
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17:31 paulofrancisco_antonio after i changed the koha hosts file in etc with the following: (for opac), (for intranet, staff interface)
17:34 paulofrancisco_antonio Then i edited the koha-sites.conf with the following DOMAIN='''',INTRAPORT=''8080'​',INTRASUFFIX=''-intra'',OPACPORT=''80'' and others option are as default
17:36 paulofrancisco_antonio Also changed koha ports config in /etc/apache2/ports.conf with the following: Listen 80, Listen 8080
17:43 paulofrancisco_antonio and in the /etc/apache2/sites-enabled/000-default.conf i put: ServerName
17:43 paulofrancisco_antonio ServerAlias
17:43 paulofrancisco_antonio DocumentRoot  /var/www/html (What directory must be put here)
17:44 paulofrancisco_antonio When i put in browser it does not show anything
17:44 paulofrancisco_antonio i i put the server address with the port i mean it show the apache default message
17:45 paulofrancisco_antonio I want to start the koha web install by the browser
17:45 paulofrancisco_antonio Please help me
17:51 oleonard paulofrancisco_antonio: I've found in the past that disabling the default site in Apache solves this problem.
17:51 oleonard paulofrancisco_antonio: That's assuming you don't need the default site as well as Koha.
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19:32 tcohen later
19:52 kidclamp_DND @later tell tcohen reset_all is too close to restart_all - I was not prepared for that :-D
19:52 huginn kidclamp_DND: The operation succeeded.
19:57 * francharb waves @cait
19:57 cait :)
19:57 francharb sorry, I haven't answered you back
19:57 francharb on bugzilla
19:58 francharb hopefully, I'll find time soon
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20:01 jenkins Project Koha_Master_D8 build #224: UNSTABLE in 2 hr 1 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]ha_Master_D8/224/
20:06 cait kidclamp_DND: maybe a security question? :)
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20:34 Joubu @later tell tcohen I have installed Text::CSV::Unicode and xmllint on jenkins, do we have a doc where I can put that?
20:34 huginn Joubu: The operation succeeded.
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21:04 tcohen hi
21:07 * cait waves
21:07 tcohen hi cait
21:07 cait tcohen: I wanted to buy mantecol for my brother - but can't find it anywhere here or online :(
21:12 tcohen cait: oh noes!
21:13 cait it's very addictive :)
21:13 * cait blames bgkriegel
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21:18 Joubu I know that from Greece, they call it halva, very good indeed :)
21:21 cait i didn't want to share wit him... now i feel even more guilty :)
21:49 cait hm some native speaker around?
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21:58 * wizzyrea looks around tentatively
21:58 wizzyrea what ya need :)
21:59 wizzyrea cait^
21:59 cait was wondering about a grammar question, but it's resolved :)
21:59 wizzyrea sorry I didn't see your message straight away
21:59 cait thx!
21:59 wizzyrea oh yay
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22:30 cait just commented on bug 18651 with some worrying test results. https://bugs.koha-community.or[…].cgi?id=18651#c66
22:30 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=18651 blocker, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Stable , Move of checkouts is still not correctly handled
22:30 huginn Bug 18651: blocker, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Stable , Move of checkouts is still not correctly handled
22:30 cait woudl be happy if someone could check on master/verify in 16.11.x, whatever to make this move forward
22:31 cait might delay release of 16.11.10 - we really need those fixes asap
22:33 jenkins Yippee, build fixed!
22:33 wahanui o/ '`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`
22:33 jenkins Project Koha_Master_D8 build #225: FIXED in 1 hr 58 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]ha_Master_D8/225/
22:41 wizzyrea hmm
22:43 tcohen cait: I agree you should delay the release until that is fixed
22:44 tcohen I will try to test tomorrow, but have a big queue to take care of!
22:44 cait woudl be glad to have some help there
22:44 cait i think patches are in 17.05 too and master - but slightly different because of the changes to the API
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22:46 pianohacker shalom
22:46 cait hey pianohacker
22:46 wahanui regexes are AWESOME
22:46 cait :)
22:46 cait are you back?
22:46 pianohacker hi cait!
22:46 cait i am still waiting for the waffle photo ;)
22:46 pianohacker working on contract with bag on bug 15522
22:46 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=15522 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jweaver, ASSIGNED , New interface for revamped circulation rules
22:47 cait already got bored? :)
22:47 pianohacker well, that's a long story... but I did miss this crazy place
22:47 cait :)
22:47 cait we missed you too
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