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morning #koha |
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hello LibraryClaire |
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salut alex_a |
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waves |
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hei magnuse |
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@wunder enbo |
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moin drojf |
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@wunder txl |
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@wunder marseille, france |
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too early for weather |
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hi gaetan_B |
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bonjour gaetan_B |
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gaetan_B: we had skrei for dinner yesterday :-) |
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hmmm nice :) |
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gaetan_B |
homemade ? |
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moin drojf, gaetan_B, magnuse |
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magnuse |
guten morgen BüchereiKlara |
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hi LibraryClaire |
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hi fridolin |
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LibraryClaire: yop |
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magnuse |
http://www.indexdata.com/zebra[…]pps.html#koha-ils could do with a bit of an update |
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hi #koha |
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vfernandes |
i'm getting the following error on oai.pl |
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Can't call method "start_element" on an undefined value at /usr/share/perl5/HTTP/OAI/Response.pm line 114. |
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anyone knows whats happening? |
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i think it's the HTTP::OAI version |
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which version of libhttp-oai-perl are you using? |
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4 |
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vfernandes |
that's it |
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Joubu |
see bug 17704 |
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Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=17704 normal, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , OAI-PMH compatiblity with Ubuntu Xenial and Debian Stretch |
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vfernandes |
after downgrading to 3.28 the error no longer appears |
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but I think the XML is not being transformed |
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could be an apache configuration? |
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vfernandes |
problem solved ;) |
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druthb |
Good morning, #koha. |
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morning |
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@wunder cordoba, argentina |
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cait |
suggesting a new coding guideline for the meeting later today : don't allow use of html5 input type number |
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cait: why that? |
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Joubu: because it breaks paying when you use de-DE |
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it makes you enter the amount with decimal comma - but Koha doesn't understand |
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make koha understand that? |
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eythian |
it should be parsing numbers with correct localisations anyway. |
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cait |
that seems a lot harder to fix actually |
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cait |
it would be nice in general, but lots harder |
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cait |
maybe depending on how you do it, right now it just causes lots of trouble the way it is |
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I just imagined a quick solution would be to stop people use this thing for now until we have figured out how to do things properly |
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heh, you say that as though the quick solution doesn't always end up being the permanent solution. |
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Joubu |
cait: bug number? |
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Joubu++ |
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Thanks for all the help yesterday. |
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oha |
how long will be the meeting today? |
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oha |
just need a ballpark figure |
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cait |
https://wiki.koha-community.or[…]March_2017#Agenda |
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cait |
bt 17098 |
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cait |
bug 17098 |
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Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=17098 normal, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , Validation problems with form field type "number" (decimal separator) |
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magnuse |
dont use decimals in payments ;-) |
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not funny :) |
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Joubu:adding the <dev_install> to koha_conf.xml file seems to have solved the plack problem: I am able to restart plack, and the internal server error is gone. |
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tcohen |
kchris: why don't you just recreate the kohadevbox? |
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kchris |
Vagrant destroy and then recreate? |
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tcohen |
yeap |
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kchris |
That would give me the correct koha-conf.xml file? |
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kchris |
So I wouldn't need to edit it separately? |
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tcohen |
yeap |
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kchris |
I have been working with a repo on my host that I bring in each time I bring vagrant up. |
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tcohen |
so you can safely recreate de kohadevbox, and your cloned repo is taken from the host machine |
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tcohen |
so you don't loose data? |
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Okay. |
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kchris |
Yes. |
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kchris |
I want to be able to edit files on my host. |
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kchris |
For the convenience. |
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And keep my branches. |
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morning, everyone! |
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hi kholt |
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kholt |
Hi LibraryClaire! |
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LibraryClaire |
:) |
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hi! trying to use Koha::Patron::Modification object. is there some requirement or advantage in generating patron modification verification token outside Koha::Patron::Modification->new? for example here: https://github.com/Koha-Commun[…]mberentry.pl#L142 |
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indeed, I think that could be moved |
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lari |
i shall open a new Bug then :) |
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tcohen |
lari, please look at 13757 |
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tcohen |
which also touches it |
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bye |
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Hello |
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Does the koha-common service have to be restarted for koha-rebuild-zebra indexing updates to take effect? |
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tcohen |
hi everyone |
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alexbuckley |
Hi |
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tcohen |
#startmeeting Development IRC meeting 8 March 2017 |
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huginn` |
Meeting started Wed Mar 8 19:01:09 2017 UTC. The chair is tcohen. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. |
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Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. |
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Topic for #koha is now (Meeting topic: Development IRC meeting 8 March 2017) |
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huginn` |
The meeting name has been set to 'development_irc_meeting_8_march_2017' |
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tcohen |
#topic Introductions |
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Topic for #koha is now Introductions (Meeting topic: Development IRC meeting 8 March 2017) |
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tcohen |
please introduce yourselves using #info Name |
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tcohen |
#info Tomas Cohen Arazi |
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alexbuckley |
#info Alex Buckley |
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Joubu |
#info Jonathan Druart |
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druthb |
#info D Ruth Holloway |
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cait |
#info Katrin Fischer, BSZ, Germany |
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cait |
druthb: you need a new nick :) |
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khall |
#info Kyle M Hall, ByWater Solutions |
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* druthb |
is aware |
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* tcohen |
is not expecting people to flood the channel with stuff for the meeting |
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tcohen |
moving on? |
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cait |
yep |
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tcohen |
#topic Announcements |
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Topic for #koha is now Announcements (Meeting topic: Development IRC meeting 8 March 2017) |
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tcohen |
any announcements? |
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tcohen |
ok, moving on |
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tcohen |
#topic Update from the Release Managers (17.05) |
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Topic for #koha is now Update from the Release Managers (17.05) (Meeting topic: Development IRC meeting 8 March 2017) |
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thd |
#info Thomas Dukleth, Agogme, New York City |
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tcohen |
hi thd |
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thd |
hello |
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tcohen |
bag is attending Code4Lib, so I think it is your turn, khall |
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khall |
sorry, distracted ; ) |
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khall |
So far nothing noteworthy to report |
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bag |
push all the things |
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bag |
fix all the bugs! |
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bag |
</report> |
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bag |
;) |
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khall |
yep! |
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tcohen |
ha |
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tcohen |
sneaky bag |
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tcohen |
focus on the presentation, bag |
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tcohen |
:-P |
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bag |
coffee break :) |
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tcohen |
#topic Updates from the Release Maintainers |
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Topic for #koha is now Updates from the Release Maintainers (Meeting topic: Development IRC meeting 8 March 2017) |
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tcohen |
cait |
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cait |
same as always |
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cait |
i will be pushing patches early next week |
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cait |
string freeze will be 15th |
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cait |
release 22nd |
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cait |
:) |
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tcohen |
#info Katrin is sticking to the regular release schedule for 16.11.x |
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cait |
i feel we got a lot fixed in 16.11.04 - it seems to slow down a bit |
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tcohen |
mtj? |
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tcohen |
cait: do you mean Koha got slower? |
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Joubu |
no less bugs |
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tcohen |
jajm? |
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cait |
yep |
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cait |
Joubu got it :) |
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tcohen |
awesome, I actually updated a library to 16.11.04 |
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Joubu |
less *known* bugs |
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cait |
shush :) |
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tcohen |
#info bug count for 16.11.x got lower with 16.11.04 |
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tcohen |
jajm? mtj? |
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tcohen |
ok, we can come back to them if they show up |
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tcohen |
#topic Updates from Jonathan |
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Topic for #koha is now Updates from Jonathan (Meeting topic: Development IRC meeting 8 March 2017) |
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josef_moravec |
#info Josef Moravec, Municipal Library Usti nad Orlici, Czech Republic |
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tcohen |
:-P |
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Joubu |
nothing today :) |
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Joubu |
was off the last few days |
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Joubu |
I should send an email soon |
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Joubu |
and just posted bug 18235 |
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Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=18235 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Needs Signoff , Elastic search - Configurable facets |
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cait |
ooh nice |
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tcohen |
#info Jonathan introduced bug 18235, which will gather lots of attention |
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Joubu |
it's a bit ugly but seems to work |
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tcohen |
kidclamp: we are on the 'updates from the QA team' topic, if you have something to add? |
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tcohen |
ashimema: ? |
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Joubu |
nothing else, unless my refactoring did not get lot of attention |
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Joubu |
TT syntax for notices and Hea neither |
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cait |
I tihnk rangi signed off on hea |
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tcohen |
#info important stuff like TT syntax for notices and the new HEA need signoffs and QA people to take care |
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Joubu |
cait: yes, but I would have expected several SO on this one |
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cait |
ok |
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Joubu |
I got a server setup to test |
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Joubu |
it is very very easy to test... |
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tcohen |
TT syntax requires real users to test it |
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Joubu |
must be fun, easy and quick |
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tcohen |
Joubu: talking about HEA? |
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Joubu |
yes |
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tcohen |
ok |
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tcohen |
#topic General development discussion |
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Topic for #koha is now General development discussion (Meeting topic: Development IRC meeting 8 March 2017) |
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alexbuckley |
I am looking to try to push the onboarding tool project ahead, so we can get this useful feature out to Koha users in the May release. bug 17855, 18039 and 17942 |
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Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=17855 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, alexbuckley, Signed Off , Updated Koha web installer and new onboarding tool feature to guide users through setting up Koha |
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alexbuckley |
Ifeel it has got a bit bogged down in trying to developand test it for all languages in one go, any thoughts about splitting it up? |
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Joubu |
bug 18039 |
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Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=18039 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Needs Signoff , Move the mandatory and optional files for non-english languages into 'default' directory so bug 17855 permits use of other languages |
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Joubu |
bug 17942 |
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Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=17942 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Signed Off , Update style of the web installer with Bootstrap 3 |
19:16 |
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cait |
tcohen: you can action me for testing german, russian and ukrainian if you want - but next week |
19:17 |
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tcohen |
#info Alex Buckley needs feedback and signoffs for the new onboarding tool and web installer update |
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tcohen |
#actions Katrin offers to test German, Russian and Ukranian for the onboarding tool |
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tcohen |
irc://irc.oftc.net:6667/#actions Katrin offers to test German, Russian and Ukranian for the onboarding tool |
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Joubu |
alexbuckley: I am not againt it personally, but I think we will adapt some part not to make it breaks languages that are not supported yet, right? |
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tcohen |
#action Katrin offers to test German, Russian and Ukranian for the onboarding tool |
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Joubu |
erk, did not mean anything |
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* tcohen |
will learn to chair at some point |
19:18 |
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cait |
tcohen: i didn't in years ;) |
19:19 |
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tcohen |
moving on? |
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Joubu |
need a rephrase? |
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alexbuckley |
Joubu, yup so which patch do you think will need to be adapted? |
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Joubu |
nope |
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Joubu |
tcohen: alexbuckley is waiting for an answer :) |
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tcohen |
ok! |
19:20 |
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Joubu |
if we go first with english only, do the other languages will still work as before? |
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cait |
i think it would be good to have this plan in place - but i stlil hope we can resolve the issues pre release |
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cait |
it would be sad to add sucha nice feature english only |
19:22 |
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Joubu |
nobody is willing to test.. |
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cait |
i will work on the languages i signed up for - just have to survive this week first :) |
19:22 |
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Joubu |
I can write patches, sign them off and QA + push if you like |
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tcohen |
I think we need to make a QA team meeting |
19:23 |
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Joubu |
so es, fr-FR, fr-FR are missing |
19:23 |
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Joubu |
nb-NO |
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Joubu |
pl-PL |
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Joubu |
(uk-UA ?) |
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tcohen |
why is it so language-specific? |
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tcohen |
is it outside our translation system? |
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cait |
yes |
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tcohen |
why? |
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cait |
i think the main problem is that people have not stuck to the same structure as en? |
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Joubu |
yes |
19:25 |
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cait |
they translated directoy names for example |
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cait |
because it shows in the installer |
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tcohen |
ah, yes, I always thought it should be translated |
19:25 |
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cait |
working out those glitched in the web installer is probably due |
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tcohen |
shipped |
19:25 |
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tcohen |
can't we copy&paste the en one? |
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cait |
nope |
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cait |
well we can resort to have the same structure |
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cait |
and rename the files |
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tcohen |
stop reading me about this subject, I'd better take a look before |
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cait |
but the contents are specific of course |
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Joubu |
I think "rewrite the whole installer code" is out of the scope of the discussion :D |
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cait |
hehe yes |
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cait |
one step at a time |
19:26 |
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cait |
getting all the translations 'in line' again might be a first step :) |
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alexbuckley |
As I am still learning about the different language translations, so I am trying to think how I can help move it forward |
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tcohen |
I don't understand how having a translated list of templates for each language is related to directory structures |
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cait |
? |
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cait |
those are ont the templates |
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cait |
we are talking about the sql files |
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cait |
but maybe shoudl discusss on the bugs? |
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Joubu |
alexbuckley: what you can do is: 1. provide a followup to make sure other languages are not broken if we push the patches without the changes to the sql files of other languages |
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Joubu |
2. open a bug report by languages, to enable them 1 by 1 |
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thd |
Why would directory names be translated? |
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Joubu |
per |
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alexbuckley |
Joubu: Do you mean check that other languages for web installer still work when bugs 17855, 18039 and 17942 are applied? |
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Joubu |
3. Then wait for people to signoff, and if nobody care for a given language, they will not have the onboarding tool in 17.05 |
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Joubu |
alexbuckley: nope, if you do that, you can sign off everything and a QA team member can QA everything in one go |
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Joubu |
that would be ideal |
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Joubu |
but nobody test the different languages |
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cait |
thd: because it showed up as a heading in the installer - bad design |
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Joubu |
so we need 17855 without the lang files (18039) |
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Joubu |
and confirm it works as before for translated interfaces |
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cait |
i like your suggestoin Joubu |
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cait |
but i am not sure what activating would work like |
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cait |
hopefully easy |
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alexbuckley |
So just to clarify we need to get 17855 through without worrying about the patches for 18039? Sorry just trying to understand |
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Joubu |
yes |
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cait |
bug 18039 |
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Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=18039 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Needs Signoff , Move the mandatory and optional files for non-english languages into 'default' directory so bug 17855 permits use of other languages |
19:32 |
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Joubu |
but with a followup, not to break other languages |
19:32 |
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alexbuckley |
And those languages are for the installer not the translations in staff interface itself, correct? |
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cait |
hm yes |
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cait |
the files it selects |
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cait |
the sql files |
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cait |
translations for the .tt files should just work i tihnk |
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alexbuckley |
Ok I think I understand I will work on a followup patch to attach to bug 17855 this week :) |
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Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=17855 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, alexbuckley, Signed Off , Updated Koha web installer and new onboarding tool feature to guide users through setting up Koha |
19:35 |
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alexbuckley |
thanks |
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cait |
move on? |
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tcohen |
#info Jonathan and Buckley will coordinate on what's prioritary for the onboarding tool to be seamlessly integrated for the next release |
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tcohen |
#topic Review of coding guidelines |
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Topic for #koha is now Review of coding guidelines (Meeting topic: Development IRC meeting 8 March 2017) |
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tcohen |
cait? |
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cait |
I have put a suggestion for a new coding guideline on the agenda |
19:37 |
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cait |
i will copy it here sec |
19:37 |
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cait |
Forbid use of HTML5 input type="number" as it causes problems with I18N. |
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cait |
so now trying to explain why: |
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cait |
Example: The behaviour of the input field will change with the language you have selected for the GUI. When English is selected, you can enter the amount as 0.00, but if German is selected, you are enforced to enter as 0,00 - which causes trouble as Koha doesn't understand this. |
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cait |
One possible solution is to use a pattern match instead (<input type="text" pattern="\d+(\.\d{2})?"...). The number type is currently used for entering manual invoices and credits and should be removed. |
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cait |
this has been filed as bug 17098 a while ago |
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Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=17098 normal, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , Validation problems with form field type "number" (decimal separator) |
19:38 |
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tcohen |
so browsers represent numbers differently depending on the locale? |
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cait |
yes |
19:38 |
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cait |
if you switch to english gui, decimal dot, if you switch to swiss, both work, de-de comma |
19:38 |
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cait |
our code doesn't handle this |
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cait |
and the effect for the german users at th emoment is, that 'payments are broken' |
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tcohen |
english is the universal language, you know. switch |
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cait |
you try to pay something like 1.50 and it won't let you, you enter 1,50 and it pays 1 i think only |
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cait |
it's rather.. bad |
19:39 |
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tcohen |
what is the proposal? |
19:40 |
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cait |
the ideal solution would be to make Koha understand other monetary formats |
19:40 |
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cait |
but for the stable releases... i think avoiding/removing the type=number for now would be good |
19:41 |
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cait |
a pattern match works similarly, but it won't let you increase/decreate the amount using the arrow keys then |
19:41 |
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tcohen |
can't you use step='0.01'? |
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cait |
still , |
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cait |
ok, i haven't tried it, but I think it will still outsmart you |
19:42 |
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cait |
i took the pattern match from a website after some googling |
19:42 |
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cait |
i think it's not only us running into this |
19:43 |
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tcohen |
is someone working on the bug? |
19:43 |
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tcohen |
because it seems that some research on how to handle this should be done |
19:43 |
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tcohen |
before imposing a guideline |
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* tcohen |
cannot volunteer this time |
19:44 |
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Joubu |
seems like we only have 2 occurrences |
19:44 |
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cait |
yeah |
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cait |
but those are central |
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cait |
and i don't want it to spread |
19:44 |
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Joubu |
so let's kick them |
19:44 |
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cait |
if I get the ok to do this |
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cait |
iw ill |
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Joubu |
bug 2542 |
19:44 |
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cait |
i just thought it will need discussion first - because it will behave a little less nice |
19:45 |
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Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=2542 normal, P3, ---, jonathan.druart, CLOSED FIXED, Manual fine/credit fail on superfluous characters ( e.g. '$' ) |
19:45 |
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cait |
the arrow key stuff not working |
19:45 |
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cait |
i cannot figure out how to make Koha accept comma decimals |
19:45 |
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cait |
but i can certainly remove the input=number |
19:45 |
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cait |
and would like us not to add more of those until we have a good solution |
19:46 |
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tcohen |
try the step="0.1" |
19:46 |
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cait |
that's why I proposed a coding guideline |
19:46 |
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cait |
i will try it first to make you happy |
19:46 |
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cait |
but internet suggests it won't work |
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tcohen |
ok, I need to leave |
19:47 |
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tcohen |
picking manuel |
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cait |
so can we make this a temporary qa guideline at least? |
19:48 |
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cait |
no more input=number? |
19:48 |
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tcohen |
no strong opinion from me |
19:48 |
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tcohen |
I think a bug should remove it, and once someone figures how it should be used |
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tcohen |
then set it as a guideline |
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tcohen |
#chair cait |
19:49 |
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Current chairs: cait tcohen |
19:49 |
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cait |
just don't use it |
19:49 |
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cait |
for now |
19:49 |
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Joubu |
will take a look tomorrow |
19:49 |
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tcohen |
later #koha |
19:49 |
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cait |
thx Joubu |
19:50 |
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cait |
there is also a problem with plack doing weird stuff to numbera ccording to locale |
19:50 |
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Joubu |
splitter told me there is only 1 occurrence, on bug 17855 (bugzilla is small...) |
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Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=17855 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, alexbuckley, Signed Off , Updated Koha web installer and new onboarding tool feature to guide users through setting up Koha |
19:50 |
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Joubu |
but it's for "max number of holds" or something, so should not hurt |
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cait |
probably eah |
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cait |
but then we should step=1 |
19:51 |
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cait |
to actively prevent people adding decimal |
19:51 |
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cait |
bug 18186 |
19:51 |
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Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=18186 major, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , Amounts with decimal comma instead of decimal dot breaking payments |
19:51 |
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cait |
#info Please don't use input type=number for now as it causes headaches for some languages using decimal commas |
19:51 |
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cait |
i can at elast ask nicely |
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cait |
actually, all hta tis left is set the time of the next meeting |
19:53 |
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thd |
Can we not force plack to ignore locale for numeric data types? |
19:53 |
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cait |
i am not sure if it's something we can set in Koha |
19:53 |
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cait |
i just wnated to alert people for now that we have run into this |
19:54 |
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cait |
the effect is that it prefills input fields with comma amounts and that again... won't work and is really hard to track down |
19:54 |
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cait |
it#s an odd thing |
19:54 |
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cait |
#topic Set date and time of next meeting |
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Topic for #koha is now Set date and time of next meeting (Meeting topic: Development IRC meeting 8 March 2017) |
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thd |
Yet we have instructions for how to set up MySQL to avoid a host of character encoding problems. |
19:54 |
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cait |
are we on a biweekly schedule right now? |
19:55 |
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cait |
yeah, we wrote it up for it to be documented - but i am nto the person who fixed, some plack people might want to have a look |
19:56 |
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cait |
#chair kidclamp |
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Current chairs: cait kidclamp tcohen |
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kidclamp |
So 2 weeks would be the 22nd |
19:58 |
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kidclamp |
and next time would be 13UTC? |
19:58 |
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kidclamp |
next meeting Wednesday March 22 at 13 UTC unless objections or suggestions |
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kidclamp |
#info next meeting: Wednesday March 22, 13UTC |
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kidclamp |
tcohen++ |
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kidclamp |
cait++ |
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kidclamp |
apologies of rmissing the meeting :-) |
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kidclamp |
last call for any comments? |
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kidclamp |
#endmeeting |
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cait |
@later tell tcohen I tested it with step="0.01" - it will still only accept and offer you decimal comma values |
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cait: The operation succeeded. |
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cait |
@later tell Joubu I tested it with step="0.01" - it will still only accept and offer you decimal comma values |
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cait: The operation succeeded. |
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hi |
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