IRC log for #koha, 2017-03-07

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00:37 reza Hi.. I am trying to upgrade schema to v16 and below line has been printed during the process:
00:37 reza Use of uninitialized value $indexes[0] in hash element at /usr/share/koha/intranet/cgi-bin/ins​taller/data/mysql/ line 11571.
00:38 reza is that gonna cause me an issue??
00:44 reza and another error on Bug 17135:
00:44 huginn` Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=17135 major, P5 - low, ---, abl, RESOLVED FIXED, Fine for the previous overdue may get overwritten by the next one
00:44 reza Attempting upgrade to (Bug 17135) ...
00:44 reza DBD::mysql::st execute failed: Unknown column 'me.no_auto_renewal_after' in 'field list' [for Statement "SELECT `me`.`categorycode`, `me`.`itemtype`, `me`.`restrictedtype`, `me`.`rentaldiscount`, `me`.`reservecharge`, `me`.`fine`, `me`.`finedays`, `me`.`maxsuspensiondays`, `me`.`firstremind`, `me`.`chargeperiod`, `me`.`chargeperiod_charge_at`, `me`.`accountsent`, `me`.`chargename`, `me`.`maxissueqty`, `me`.`maxonsiteissueqty`, `me`.`issuelength`, `me`.`lengthunit
00:44 reza `, `me`.`hardduedate`, `me`.`hardduedatecompare`, `me`.`renewalsallowed`, `me`.`renewalperiod`, `me`.`norenewalbefore`, `me`.`auto_renew`, `me`.`no_auto_renewal_after`, `me`.`reservesallowed`, `me`.`holds_per_record`, `me`.`branchcode`, `me`.`overduefinescap`, `me`.`cap_fine_to_replacement_price`, `me`.`onshelfholds`, `me`.`opacitemholds`, `me`.`article_requests` FROM `issuingrules` `me` WHERE ( ( `me`.`branchcode` = ? AND `me`.`categorycode` = ? AND `me`.`itemty
00:44 reza pe` = ? ) )" with ParamValues: 0='TPM', 1='STU-DEGR', 2='GC'] at /usr/share/perl5/DBIx/Class/Storage/ line 1834.
00:44 reza DBIx::Class::Storage::DBI::_dbh_execute(): Unknown column 'me.no_auto_renewal_after' in 'field list' at /usr/share/koha/lib/Koha/ line 83
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00:53 mtj reza:  you are upgrading with packages, to koha 16.11.x ?
00:53 reza yes, package
00:56 mtj hmm, 16.11 jenkins is passing ok - but i guess thats because it has no fines in its DB
00:56 mtj https://jenkins.koha-community[…]D8/24/consoleText
00:57 reza I do have fine records for about 10 users
01:03 mtj hmm, what version are you upgrading from reza?
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01:11 reza I am checking
01:11 reza how to see the current version on command line?
01:12 reza Koha version:
01:12 reza OS version ('uname -a'): Linux lib 3.19.0-71-generic #79~14.04.1-Ubuntu SMP Sat Oct 8 20:07:15 UTC 2016 x86_64
01:13 reza Perl version: 5.018002
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01:18 mtj reza: hmm, the problem column 'issuingrules.no_auto_renewal_after' exists in the latest 16.11 release
01:19 mtj reza,  try restarting memcache, then run the db update again
01:19 reza OK
01:20 mtj # sudo service memcached restart
01:20 mtj # sudo koha-upgrade-schema yourkoha
01:21 reza after restart I ran the upgrade again
01:21 reza and no error appeared
01:44 mtj cool, great news
01:46 reza I have a question on SIP 2
01:46 reza I have enabled SIP 2 and using it for self service machine
01:48 reza due to the lack of reliable infrastructure we were thinking to hosting koha on the cloud, however, is it safe to do so?
01:50 BobB hi reza, there are a number of providers who offer cloud services for Koha
01:50 BobB
01:50 BobB its depends where you are
01:51 BobB apart from reading generally about cloud services, a good approach is to ask clients of a provider whether they have had any issues
01:51 BobB nothing on the internet is completely safe of course
01:51 BobB but that includes the server under your desk, as much as someone else's server in the cloud
01:52 BobB so investigate a provider in terms of their infrastructure, policies and practices
02:02 mtj reza: SIP2 works pretty well over the internet/cloud, if you use something like stunnel
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03:39 reza Thank you BobB and mtj
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05:21 drojf morning #koha
05:43 drojf @wunder sxf
05:43 huginn` drojf: The current temperature in Berlin Schoenefeld, Germany is 3.0°C (6:20 AM CET on March 07, 2017). Conditions: Light Rain. Humidity: 93%. Dew Point: 2.0°C. Windchill: -2.0°C. Pressure: 29.71 in 1006 hPa (Steady).
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07:25 LibraryClaire morning #koha
07:43 * magnuse waves
07:43 magnuse @wunder enbo
07:43 huginn` magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is -1.0°C (8:20 AM CET on March 07, 2017). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 47%. Dew Point: -11.0°C. Windchill: -8.0°C. Pressure: 30.24 in 1024 hPa (Rising).
07:43 magnuse @wunder marseille, france
07:43 huginn` magnuse: The current temperature in Marseille, France is 9.0°C (8:30 AM CET on March 07, 2017). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 62%. Dew Point: 2.0°C. Pressure: 30.06 in 1018 hPa (Steady).
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07:45 reiveune hello
07:45 LibraryClaire hi magnuse and reiveune
07:49 LibraryClaire @wunder konstanz
07:49 huginn` LibraryClaire: The current temperature in Mainaustraße, Konstanz, Germany is 5.8°C (8:41 AM CET on March 07, 2017). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 83%. Dew Point: 3.0°C. Windchill: 6.0°C. Pressure: 29.95 in 1014 hPa (Rising).
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07:56 alex_a bonjour
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08:23 drojf @wunder sxf
08:23 huginn` drojf: The current temperature in Berlin Schoenefeld, Germany is 2.0°C (8:50 AM CET on March 07, 2017). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 87%. Dew Point: 0.0°C. Windchill: -2.0°C. Pressure: 29.80 in 1009 hPa (Rising).
08:23 drojf @wunder ber
08:23 huginn` drojf: Error: No such location could be found.
08:23 drojf @wunder txl
08:23 huginn` drojf: The current temperature in Rue du Capitaine Jean Maridor, Berlin, Germany is 2.2°C (9:16 AM CET on March 07, 2017). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 100%. Dew Point: 2.0°C. Windchill: 2.0°C. Pressure: 29.80 in 1009 hPa (Steady).
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10:21 eythian hi
10:21 eythian @wunder ams
10:21 huginn` eythian: The current temperature in Schiphol, Badhoevedorp, Netherlands is 7.6°C (11:21 AM CET on March 07, 2017). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 88%. Dew Point: 6.0°C. Windchill: 6.0°C. Pressure: 29.94 in 1014 hPa (Rising).
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11:30 kivilahtio Joubu: you might want to fast-track Bug 18222
11:30 huginn` Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=18222 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , Fix tests broken by Buug 18026
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11:32 A__A Hello.  I'm investigating Koha, to see if it is practical for a small shop in Whitby, to put our community library "online".  We already have our stock online, on a (3rd party) linux server.  (Pretty sure it's linux.)  Can we add Koha easily to this existing system?
11:33 A__A Whitby, North York Moors, England
11:36 drojf i think you asked the same a few days ago and the answer was you need root access to your server 8and verify it is linux)
11:38 drojf also what gnu/linux distribution it is is important. debian-based is easy, centos or redhat might be complicated
11:41 A__A drojf: root access to the server.  "Which distro".  Hmm.  So that sounds like hosting the thing on your own servers, not via a service provider.  So OpenBiblio looks more likely.  And easier to (con)figure, probably.
11:42 drojf A__A: i don't understand. there are service providers for koha, or you can do it yourself. it's your choice
11:44 drojf as you mentioned your server, i assumed you would want to use it to install koha
11:46 A__A I am a bear of simple brain.  "Service providers for Koha".  We don't have an actual real server, that's provided by a service provider.  We interface to it via the web.
11:47 drojf koha does not care if it is under your desk or in some server farm
11:48 A__A But you need root access?
11:49 drojf yes
11:49 drojf you would ssh into your server and install stuff
11:49 drojf if it is only some webhosting thing with modules you can click to install in a web interface, it is probably not going to wotk
11:52 A__A Got it.  Ok drojf.  Where can I read about these basic starting-out Koha issues?  I finally hit on IRC.  Are there any videos anywhere that talk about requirements in a conversational, non techno-geek way?
11:54 drojf not that i am aware of. it's professional software, you won't get to install it without learning some tech stuff. installation is not too complicated with debian packages
11:55 drojf debian?
11:55 drojf hm the bot is gone
11:55 drojf
12:00 A__A Yup.  I agree, everything informatic requires technical knowledge, once you've decided it's a viable choice.  But right now I'm looking at the feasability of Koha for our situation.  Thank you for your help, again, from (for a change) sunny Whitby.
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12:36 tcohen morning
12:36 tcohen @wunder cordoba, argentina
12:36 huginn` tcohen: The current temperature in Barrio El Refugio, Córdoba, Argentina is 23.2°C (9:36 AM ART on March 07, 2017). Conditions: Mist. Humidity: 80%. Dew Point: 20.0°C. Pressure: 30.01 in 1016 hPa (Rising).
12:37 druthb @wunder 77098
12:37 huginn` druthb: The current temperature in Montrose, Houston, Texas is 22.1°C (6:36 AM CST on March 07, 2017). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 95%. Dew Point: 21.0°C. Pressure: 30.01 in 1016 hPa (Falling).
12:37 tcohen he, close
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12:46 marcelr hi #koha
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12:49 Joubu @wunder buenos aires, argentina
12:49 huginn` Joubu: The current temperature in Ezeiza Aerodrome, Argentina is 17.0°C (9:00 AM ART on March 07, 2017). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 60%. Dew Point: 11.0°C. Pressure: 30.11 in 1019 hPa (Rising).
12:49 Joubu :)
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12:52 tcohen YAY!
12:52 cait Joubu: yay!
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13:54 marcelr @later tell drojf please look at bug 16758
13:54 huginn` marcelr: The operation succeeded.
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14:13 cait Joubu: when did you arrive?
14:13 Joubu yesterday "morning"
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14:23 magnuse ¡hola Joubu!
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14:47 cait Joubu: did all your stuff arrive with you?
14:49 Joubu yes :)
14:52 * tcohen forgot he liked Bloc Party
14:52 LibraryClaire tcohen++
14:55 cait lucky 9
14:55 cait :)
14:55 cait the 9 shoudl have been a smiley...
14:58 gmcharlt @quote random
14:58 huginn` gmcharlt: Quote #156: "druthb: I would feed wahanui a botsnack of windows 8 engineers, but they're full of fluff and not very filling. trea: like marshmallow peeps, with clip on ties." (added by wizzyrea at 02:09 PM, September 22, 2011)
14:58 * druthb perks.
15:07 * druthb waves tiredly to gmcharlt.
15:11 tcohen hi druthb gmcharlt
15:12 druthb Hi, tcohen!  :D
15:13 kivilahtio I am trying to get all the Koha's tests to pass and I am finding problems with the Koha::Cache
15:13 kivilahtio mainly some tests set it and others suffer from it
15:13 kivilahtio mainly some tests set sysprefs and context it and others suffer from it
15:13 kivilahtio especially when the values set are random test data
15:14 kivilahtio the solution is to flush all caches when starting to run a new test file
15:14 tcohen kivilahtio: make sure you use t::lib::Mocks for setting sysprefs on tests
15:14 kivilahtio but how is this done elegantly?
15:14 marcelr kivilahtio: they should mock preferences
15:14 eythian surely setting the sysprefs should invalidated the cache for them
15:14 tcohen I mean, t::lib::Mocksmock_preference
15:15 tcohen t::lib::Mocks::mock_preference
15:15 Joubu indeed
15:15 kivilahtio Wow, my question got ganged
15:15 kivilahtio thanks :)
15:15 kivilahtio looking at t/Logger.t leaking configs
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15:38 kivilahtio tcohen: Any idea why t::lib::Mock::mock_dbh uses DBI:Mock
15:38 kivilahtio tcohen: and how is DBI::Mock installable?
15:38 kivilahtio tcohen: using an in-memory SQLite DB works great
15:39 kivilahtio I am getting some nasty errors in the test runs
15:40 kivilahtio *I am getting some nasty warnings in the test runs*
15:42 tcohen kivilahtio: fix Prices.t and I owe you a beer :-D
15:42 tcohen he
15:42 kivilahtio haha
15:42 kivilahtio tcohen: is Prices.t the only test using DBI:Mock ?
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15:44 Joubu prove t/Prices.t => "All tests successful."
15:44 * Joubu is waiting for the beer he deserves
15:47 tcohen Joubu: why is it failing in Jenkins?
15:47 marcelr kivilahtio: Remove DBI::Mock; you can do it
15:47 marcelr no exceptions
15:51 kivilahtio marcelr: is it possible to install DBI::Mock?
15:51 kivilahtio should I rephrase, can you get it installed?
15:51 marcelr if we can do it, you can do it :)
15:52 marcelr not sure how i did it, probably cpanning
15:52 marcelr just get rid of it !
15:52 kivilahtio marcelr: the module might have regression
15:52 kivilahtio marcelr: you don't like it much ?
15:52 marcelr why this exception?
15:52 marcelr we chose Test::DBIx::Class
15:53 marcelr and that is horrible enough
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15:53 marcelr also hard to install
15:54 kivilahtio atleast it is up to date here :)
15:54 kivilahtio marcelr: shoudln't t/lib/Mock::mock_dbh be replaced with Test::DBIx::Class
15:54 marcelr kivilahtio: which test is it ?
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15:54 stozza hello
15:55 kivilahtio marcelr: several tests
15:55 marcelr ok via mock_dbh
15:56 marcelr we also still have DBD::Mock in perl deps
15:57 kivilahtio marcelr: I can install it, but I guess DBI::Mock is needed as well
15:57 kivilahtio since the complaints
15:57 marcelr yeah they are related somehow
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16:00 marcelr kivilahtio: i have sometimes the idea that some t tests should just be db_dependent
16:00 kivilahtio marcelr: why do we even have tests which are not?
16:01 marcelr there should be a visible advantage of having these tests
16:01 marcelr if there is not, ...
16:04 marcelr have to go
16:22 Joubu packages do not build if non DB dependent tests do no pass, that makes some errors to be caught earlier
16:23 Joubu sounds like a reasonable advantage
16:23 reiveune bye
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17:12 Joubu kivilahtio: bug 18226: is it expected to add etc/
17:12 huginn` Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=18226 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, Needs Signoff , Remove "use Test::DBIx::Class" instantiations' dangerous code duplication
17:12 Joubu t/etc/
17:12 kivilahtio it does?
17:13 kivilahtio it should
17:13 kivilahtio it does :)
17:13 kivilahtio Joubu: I am providing a followup where mock_dbh is removed and replaced with Test::DBIx::Class
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17:15 Joubu yes would make sense
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18:35 CrispyBran cait, are you there?
18:35 tcohen hi
18:36 CrispyBran hello
18:36 CrispyBran tcohen, do you write patches?
18:37 CrispyBran Anyone online that writes patches?
18:38 tcohen CrispyBran: I do
18:38 CrispyBran tcohen, do you use the kohadevbox?
18:39 tcohen yes
18:39 tcohen all the time
18:39 CrispyBran When I edit a file, isn't only supposed to edit it under the branch I am in?
18:40 tcohen of course
18:41 CrispyBran when I go back to master, it shows the edited file there as well.
18:41 tcohen can u elaborate a bit?
18:41 tcohen ah
18:41 tcohen maybe you forgot to commit your work
18:41 tcohen when you are in the branch
18:41 tcohen you need to
18:41 CrispyBran I haven't gotten that far
18:41 tcohen $ git add files_you_changed_or_added
18:41 tcohen then
18:41 tcohen $ git commit
18:42 tcohen it is not automatic
18:42 tcohen you need to tell git to store those changes, assign them an id (commit hash) and it will ask you for a subject and description
18:42 CrispyBran Would you mind walking through something with me?  This is my first patch.
18:42 tcohen progit is a good book about Git
18:43 tcohen "x-mojo-controller": "Koha::REST::V1::Items::Messages",
18:43 tcohen nope
18:43 tcohen not that paste
18:43 tcohen he
18:43 tcohen
18:43 tcohen it is better for you to read the intro before trying to use git
18:43 tcohen i promise
18:43 CrispyBran ok
18:44 tcohen it is not that long, but it will save you from lots of trial error wasted time
18:46 kidclamp_code4lib you can also stash your changes before changing branches
18:51 CrispyBran :)
18:52 CrispyBran So, I could hash or stash, but can I mash?
18:52 CrispyBran :)
18:52 CrispyBran I could trash.
18:52 kchris_away #koha, I am troubleshooting a plack error on kohadevbox.
18:53 kchris_away How can I verify that plack restarts successfully after a restart_all command?
18:54 Joubu check plack logs
18:54 kchris koha-plack-log?
18:58 kchris koha-plack-err shows the server closing, then starting.
18:58 kchris and then a get a template process failed error
19:00 Joubu if you see the stop-start lines, that means it restarted :)
19:00 kchris Yes :)
19:00 kchris So, the problem lies elsewhere...
19:01 Joubu kchris: it's about 7534 I guess?
19:01 kchris Yes.
19:01 kchris I have applied the db update..
19:02 kchris and when I log into mysql, I see the new column in the branches table.
19:04 Joubu kchris: can you paste `git log --oneline origin/master..HEAD` please
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19:09 kchris Joubu:
19:11 kchris I'm using kohadevbox with repo on my host.
19:11 Joubu when do you get the error?
19:12 Joubu just by hitting admin/
19:12 kchris Yes
19:12 kchris And I don't get the error on master.
19:12 kchris Just when I am on the branch with the patch.
19:13 Joubu kchris: as vagrant user: ` sudo service memcached restart; sudo koha-plack --restart kohadev `
19:16 kchris Okay. I ran those commands. Still getting the internal server error.
19:19 Joubu kchris: edit Koha/, l. 304, add pickup_location to the list of known methods
19:19 Joubu then restart plack again
19:19 Joubu you should get a more verbose error
19:20 Joubu well actually no, it should be almost the same, but raised by DBIC
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19:21 Joubu kchris: git repo is up-to-date, right?
19:22 kchris Well. I dit a git pull just this morning into master
19:22 tcohen kchris have you ran restart_all ?
19:22 kchris and then recreated my branch
19:22 tcohen after running the upgrade?
19:22 kchris yes.
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19:23 kchris I am using the one time "SYNC_REPO" command to bring my repo into the virtualbox
19:24 kchris I have been using git on the guest for updating my repo, using bz, etc.
19:26 Joubu tried my change request?
19:26 kchris yes. let me run koha-plack-err
19:33 kchris Joubu: I added pickup_location to the arguments passed to the list of known methods.
19:34 kchris and I restarted plack again.
19:34 kchris I then ran koha-plack-err
19:34 kchris and then hit admin/
19:35 Joubu suspense!
19:35 kchris each time I still just get the template process failed error message.
19:36 kchris one more line of the same error message.
19:36 Joubu the error should be different
19:36 kchris so far, it looks the same.
19:36 Joubu paste it here please
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19:37 Joubu and Koha/ as well
19:38 kchris
19:39 kchris
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19:39 Joubu ok so you are not using the right lib path
19:40 kchris where do you see that?
19:40 Joubu because the error should not be the same :)
19:40 Joubu and the error comes from /usr/share/koha/lib
19:40 Joubu should be /home/vagrant/kohaclone
19:41 Joubu I do not know what you are doing from the host, but you are not exporting the repo you are modiying
19:41 kchris yuck
19:41 Joubu ha yes you do
19:41 Joubu wait, bit tired
19:42 kchris my branches that I create on my guest also appear on my host ...
19:42 Joubu yes yes, sorry it was wrong
19:42 kchris that's a relief.
19:43 Joubu the thing is that PERL5LIB env (the one perl use to pick the libraries to use) is not correctly set
19:44 Joubu kchris: is it a fresh devbox?
19:44 kchris Yes.
19:44 kchris I didn't think I needed to set PERL5LIB on a kohadevbox...
19:45 Joubu edit /etc/koha/sites/kohadev/plack.psgi
19:45 Joubu first lines say "use lib /path/to/lib"
19:46 Joubu guess it's not  /home/vagrant/kohaclone
19:46 Joubu but /usr/share/koha/lib
19:52 kchris Ok...still working on this.
19:53 Joubu kchris: it takes you too much time to edit a file, not sure what your workflow is, but that should be easier :)
19:53 kchris you're right.
19:54 kchris on my guest, I'm just using nano.
19:54 kchris on my host it's easier: i use gui editor.
19:54 kchris can I edit this on my host?
19:56 Joubu nope
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19:57 Joubu "No idea if this list is still active" hum?
19:58 kchris in the psgi file, i don't see the lib entry
19:59 Joubu what do you see?
20:00 kchris
20:01 kchris
20:02 Joubu ha, 16733 removed them
20:02 Joubu kchris_afk: grep dev_install $KOHA_CONF
20:03 CrispyBran tcohen: is there anything specific I need to do with the commit?
20:03 tcohen you need to git bz attach bug_number HEAD
20:04 tcohen to attach it to the specific bug you wrote it for
20:04 CrispyBran What I mean is, do I need to edit the commit, or just commit it without changing the message?
20:06 CrispyBran tcohen ^
20:07 tcohen if you are trying to submit a patch for Koha, there are several guidelines you need to follow
20:08 tcohen but you need at least a subject (the first line) including "Bug XXX: Description of what the patch does" (replace XXX for the bug number)
20:08 tcohen and also a test plan an a verbose description  of the problem you are trying to solve
20:09 tcohen if the bug report is good enough, you can paste it
20:13 kchris Joubu: I don't see "use lib /path/to/lib" in the plack.psgi file
20:13 Joubu @later tell kchris edit /etc/koha/sites/kohadev/koha-conf.xml, you should see a dev_install tag with "1"
20:13 huginn` Joubu: The operation succeeded.
20:13 Joubu kchris: yes you told me already
20:14 kchris okay. thanks.
20:20 kchris Joubu: I don't see a dev_install tag.
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20:24 Joubu kchris: add it, inside the config one
20:24 Joubu <dev_install>1</dev_install>
20:25 Joubu restart memcached, then plack
20:25 kchris ok.
20:25 Joubu looks like it was not a fresh devbox
20:25 * wizzyrea waves
20:27 CrispyBran Be nice to me.  This is my first attempt at a patch.  https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]_bug.cgi?id=18219
20:27 huginn` Bug 18219: minor, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, Needs Signoff , "Not checked out." problem message displays twice on local use.
20:27 * CrispyBran waves back
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20:40 wizzyrea CrispyBran_lunch, we aim to always be ncie.
20:40 wizzyrea nice even.
20:40 wizzyrea if it's your 1st patch or your 1000th
20:40 * Francesca waves
20:40 wizzyrea hi francesca!
20:40 wizzyrea how's school?
20:40 Francesca busy busy busy
20:41 Francesca say hi to the gang for me!
20:41 wizzyrea :D will do
20:41 Francesca :)
20:46 kchris Joubu: I added the <dev_install> tag inside the <config> tag.
20:47 kchris restarted memcached and plack
20:47 kchris and checked the plack errors while hiting the page.
20:47 kchris I am still getting the same error.
20:47 kchris Maybe its time i just do another fresh install.
20:48 kchris I installed about 2 weeks ago.
20:48 kchris maybe a bit longer
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