IRC log for #koha, 2017-02-15

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00:57 dcook This is interesting: Module::Pluggable was first released with perl v5.8.9, deprecated (will be CPAN-only) in v5.17.9 and removed from v5.19.0
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02:32 mtj hey #koha, what do people think about a patch to set the default plack workers to 1, not 2?
02:36 mtj Koha seems to perform better with 1 worker, on small 1 gig systems
02:36 wizzycray i'm amazed it works at all
02:37 mtj yeah
02:40 mtj well, seems to be happy enough really on a 1 gig VM
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02:43 mtj ..but with 2 workers, it seems to get the system swapping... unnecessarily :/
02:43 wizzycray me personally, I think the people running on that small of a machine will be fewer and fewer
02:43 wizzycray changing the default to accommodate a shrinking number of users I'm kind of ehhhhh about
02:44 wizzycray especially if it could be helped by documenting what to do
02:44 wizzycray i.e. if this swaps forever, try doing blah blah blah
02:44 wizzycray but that's just me
02:45 mtj i think people are still using small sized VMs... i know i am
02:45 mtj are
02:46 mtj weasel :p
02:46 wizzycray dunno, instead of changing the default I'd make it easily configurable at install time
02:46 wizzycray if it's really a thing you want to do
02:46 wizzycray leave the default, let people specify either when they enable plack or when they install koha
02:47 wizzycray I guess my point is, are we going to get more people wanting to tune it up, or tune it down
02:47 mtj i think you have persuaded me :)
02:48 wizzycray it's worth thinking about anyway
02:48 wizzycray we don't want to make it unnecessarily hard on any user :)
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03:11 mtj yes, agreed :)
03:12 mtj wiz, is there a crazy flu going around your office? .. i've got the worst head cold :/
03:13 wizzycray hm, we've had a few sickies... my kid is currently battling a cold of some kind
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05:18 mtj oh no, doesnt sound like much fun
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06:45 * magnuse waves
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06:52 josef_moravec cait: hi, are you around?
06:54 cait good morning josef_moravec
06:54 cait yes, for a bit longer
06:54 josef_moravec hi cait
06:55 josef_moravec regarding your comment 8 on bug  17988 - did you file a bug?
06:55 josef_moravec bug 17988
06:55 cait ah there is one
06:56 cait 17780
06:56 josef_moravec I would like to test bug 17780, but the broken javascript should be fixed firstr
06:56 cait i was answering oleg's comment before
06:56 josef_moravec oh, I see ;)
06:56 cait 17988 is in master and 16.11 now
06:56 josef_moravec sorry, don't look in the patch
06:56 cait but in master there is a problem with the follow-up
06:57 cait you need to revert that out possibly for testing - comment 8
06:57 cait i just skipped the follow-up then yesterday when pushing
06:57 cait if we can fix it within a week, 17780 could still make it into 16.11.04
06:58 josef_moravec these too bugs looks more like duplicates...
06:59 josef_moravec the right fix should be to change '#' to '//' as comment start in cataloguing.js
06:59 cait yep
06:59 cait i have left Joubu a later
07:00 cait hope he sees it
07:00 josef_moravec I could attach a counter patch, looks trivial
07:00 cait it is
07:01 * mtj waves to josef_moravec, cait :0)
07:01 cait hi mtj :)
07:01 josef_moravec hi mtj
07:01 mtj hey cait, i have a patch for you, for bug 18026
07:01 cait mtj: calling string freeze today or as soon as i hear back from bgkriegel
07:01 mtj just a heads up
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07:02 mtj cool, thanks
07:03 cait hm
07:03 cait i will push it onw
07:03 cait so it makes the string freeze - thx!
07:03 magnuse guten morgen BüchereiKlara und mtj
07:03 magnuse cait++
07:03 LibraryClaire hei magnuse
07:05 mtj god kveld magnuse
07:05 cait mtj: pushed!
07:05 cait magnuse: god morgen!
07:05 magnuse mtj: i wish :-)
07:05 bag aloha
07:05 magnuse guten morgen cait
07:05 magnuse bag: HI
07:05 cait hi bag
07:05 bag HI
07:05 wahanui privet, bag
07:05 LibraryClaire hi bag
07:05 LibraryClaire and #koha
07:07 * magnuse high fives bag wicked high
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07:09 bag wicked HIGH
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07:13 drojf hi #koha
07:14 LibraryClaire moin drojf
07:14 drojf hi LibraryClaire
07:20 LibraryClaire @wunder konstanz
07:21 drojf Das Wetter in Konstanz ist neblig.
07:21 * drojf plays bot
07:21 LibraryClaire huginn is awol
07:22 cait drojf: easy guess
07:22 cait hope i will find bsz
07:23 LibraryClaire one of those days when cycling across the river, if you look in any direction from the middle of the bridge all you see is white
07:36 Joubu hi
07:36 wahanui privet, Joubu
07:36 Joubu cait: sorry for the stupid follow-up
07:37 LibraryClaire bonjour Joubu
07:37 Joubu I do not think we need a new bug report for that, fix is trivial. Or just revert the follow-up
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07:37 Joubu cait: what do you prefer?
07:37 alex_a bonjour
07:37 wahanui que tal, alex_a
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07:51 reiveune hello
07:52 magnuse bonjour reiveune
07:52 reiveune salut magnuse
07:53 matts hi everyone
07:54 drojf hi matts
07:54 drojf hi magnuse and reiveune
07:56 magnuse hiya drojf and matts
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08:23 cait Joubu: around?
08:23 Joubu yep
08:24 cait about bug 17960
08:24 cait ah i think i see
08:24 cait forget it - i was thinking it's simple replace, but it can be or new... and is not as easy as I thought
08:26 Joubu yes it should be as simple as replace <<>> with <<opac_news.content>>, but we never know: table alias, etc.
08:26 Joubu ha no
08:27 * Joubu grabs more tea
08:27 Joubu cait: where can it be 'new' only?
08:29 cait maybe in a column description
08:29 cait as 'new'
08:29 Joubu yes but this is not possible in notice templates, right?
08:30 Joubu Actually I was thinking about reports...
08:30 cait ah right
08:30 cait yeah me to
08:30 Joubu So I think my comment does not make sense
08:30 cait heh
08:30 cait yeah, i think with SQL it's hard
08:30 cait but for the notice templates it should work
08:30 Joubu I do not remember why I did not want to replace it, maybe just laziness
08:30 cait because the placeholder can only be <<...>>
08:31 cait I think we shoudl try and avoid people having to do manual changes after update when we can
08:31 cait not always possible, but in this case we might
08:33 cait i have commented with some sql we used in one of our updates
08:33 cait well, adapted from something i used
08:36 cait @later tell khall can you please push 17780? :) Still collecting all the bugs for 16.11.04
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08:46 cait Joubu++
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09:55 eythian @wunder jordaan, ams
09:56 eythian huginn?
09:56 wahanui somebody said huginn was going sentient in order to help wahanui with the bot revolution
09:56 eythian huginn!
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10:04 magnuse eythian: The current temperature in Amsterdam, Netherlands is 3.0°C (8:55 PM CET on February 13, 2017). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 70%. Dew Point: -2.0°C. Windchill: -2.0°C. Pressure: 30.33 in 1027 hPa (Steady).
10:16 eythian magnuse!
10:16 wahanui rumour has it magnuse is afraid that we added another 10000 bugs while he was eating pizza
10:16 eythian It looks like it should be summer out there, except there are still patches of unmelted snow/ice around.
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11:48 magnuse eythian: why do you have patches of snow and ice lying around if you do not want them?
11:49 eythian magnuse: because I don't radiate enough heat to melt them all away in a reasonable time period
11:49 magnuse ah, gotcha
11:50 baptiste is that a feature that, by editing an existing circulation rule, if I only modify the patron category or the item type, a new rules is added, which not replaces the old one ?
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12:27 marcelr hi #koha
12:27 marcelr aleisha++ # working on lists
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12:52 oleonard Hi all
12:53 jenkins Project Koha_Master_D8 build #109: STILL UNSTABLE in 1 hr 40 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]ha_Master_D8/109/
12:53 jenkins * kyle: Bug 17780 - When choose an author in authority results new window shows
12:53 jenkins * kyle: Bug 17780: Add a comment to explain the line
12:53 LibraryClaire hi oleonard
12:53 wahanui hi dear loon
12:53 oleonard Hi
13:07 francharb Morning #koha
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13:15 oleonard Hi francharb
13:15 LibraryClaire hi francharb
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13:17 oleonard Hey QA team you all are doing a great job and are great!
13:18 oleonard Just wanted to say so.
13:18 eythian hi oleopard
13:19 Shane-S Since I am so far behind 3.20.02....would doing a backup export and then import into a new install be the best option? My server is virtualized anyway so spinning up and making a new ubuntu server isn't going to cost me anything
13:20 Shane-S and yes I installed from packages back at like 3.09
13:21 oleonard Shane-S: Yes, generally speaking that is the right procedure for that kind of upgrade
13:24 eythian of course, if it's all virtualised, I'd snapshot and try the upgrade.
13:24 eythian if it works, it'll be easier, and if it doesn't, nothing lost.
13:29 Shane-S yeah, but its live in use, so i figure I can just work on a new server, then export / import tonight
13:29 Shane-S plus its had a few little glitches you guys helped me work through last summer
13:30 Shane-S but they seemed to be from me upgrading in large gaps already
13:30 Shane-S I think I did 3.07 ->3.09 then 3.12 or 3.14 and then all the way to 3.20
13:31 Shane-S I mean its really a compliment to the efforts...and bad on my account....but its just works so I leave it alone
13:32 eythian oh right, if you want to keep it live then there's nothing wrong with loading the db into a new server. At the least it'll mean you get updated config files, and can do some test runs before doing the production cutover.
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13:46 oleonard Y'all are going to be so mad when I demand that everyone starts linting their CSS.
13:49 marcelr demand?
13:50 LibraryClaire hehe
13:52 * oleonard is here to chew gum and make enemies over CSS style guides and is all out of chewing gum
13:56 drojf @wunder berlin, germany
13:56 drojf ah, right
13:58 oleonard Weather no longer exists
13:58 LibraryClaire huginn is holidaying
13:59 * LibraryClaire thinks huginn is smart
13:59 oleonard Every time gmcharlt's cats feel they're getting too little attention they sabotage huginn
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14:01 eythian @wunder jordaan, ams
14:01 huginn eythian: The current temperature in Geuzenbuurt Amsterdam, Amsterdam, Netherlands is 12.8°C (3:00 PM CET on February 15, 2017). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 73%. Dew Point: 8.0°C. Pressure: 30.42 in 1030 hPa (Steady).
14:01 eythian works for me drojf :)
14:01 eythian also holy shit 13°
14:02 oleonard Weather again? Why did I throw away my umbrella...
14:03 gmcharlt @quote add <oleonard> Every time gmcharlt's cats feel they're getting too little attention they sabotage huginn
14:03 huginn gmcharlt: The operation succeeded.  Quote #327 added.
14:03 oleonard gmcharlt I think you're the only one who remembers how to add quotes anymore
14:04 LibraryClaire @wunder konstanz
14:04 huginn LibraryClaire: The current temperature in Jungerhalde, Konstanz, Germany is 4.0°C (2:27 PM CET on February 15, 2017). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 89%. Dew Point: 2.0°C. Windchill: 3.0°C. Pressure: 30.57 in 1035 hPa (Steady).
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14:07 oleonard @wunder 45701
14:07 huginn oleonard: The current temperature in Longview Hts, Athens, Ohio is 2.6°C (9:07 AM EST on February 15, 2017). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 47%. Dew Point: -8.0°C. Windchill: 1.0°C. Pressure: 29.69 in 1005 hPa (Steady).
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14:25 magnuse add quote?
14:25 magnuse quote add?
14:26 magnuse quotes?
14:26 drojf you need a bot for that
14:26 gmcharlt @quote add <drojf> you need a bot for that
14:26 huginn gmcharlt: The operation succeeded.  Quote #328 added.
14:26 drojf oh hi there huginn and gmcharlt
14:26 magnuse i thought i added a tip for it
14:27 LibraryClaire wahanui?
14:27 wahanui yes, LibraryClaire?
14:27 * LibraryClaire pokes wahanui
14:27 wahanui I'm reporting you to HR!
14:27 magnuse adding quotes?
14:27 magnuse bleurgh
14:27 LibraryClaire quote?
14:27 magnuse @quote random
14:27 huginn magnuse: Quote #166: "jcamins: this is IRC. There's a several decade long tradition of lurking." (added by wizzyrea at 03:06 PM, November 17, 2011)
14:27 wahanui i already had it that way, huginn.
14:28 LibraryClaire bot wars
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14:33 jenkins Project Koha_Master_D8 build #110: STILL UNSTABLE in 1 hr 40 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]ha_Master_D8/110/
14:33 jenkins kyle: Bug 18119: Fix comment in cataloguing.js
14:33 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=18119 trivial, P5 - low, ---, josef.moravec, Pushed to Master , Bug 17988 broke cataloging javascript functionality
14:38 drojf @wunder berlin, germany
14:38 huginn drojf: The current temperature in Berlin, Berlin, Germany is 9.3°C (3:09 PM CET on February 15, 2017). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 64%. Dew Point: 3.0°C. Windchill: 8.0°C. Pressure: 30.51 in 1033 hPa (Steady).
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15:28 Joubu cait: see bug 18111 for the next release
15:28 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=18111 major, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Needs Signoff , Import default framework is broken
15:31 cait hm has nos trings
15:32 cait i can still push it duing the next days if it makes it in before 22nd
15:32 cait Joubu
15:32 cait :)
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15:39 tcohen morning
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15:50 oleonard I'm just saying... Putting a sass-lint plugin into Sublime Text has been revelatory.
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15:59 LibraryClaire laters #koha
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16:28 reiveune bye
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16:39 oleonard Hadn't heard of this until today:
16:46 eythian oleonard: a closed source browser? Sounds like a bad start.
16:52 oleonard Based on Firefox it seems, and they have /some/ code on github anyway.
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17:13 oleonard Bye all
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17:20 tcohen oleonard: using Sublime?
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18:03 tcohen @seen mtj
18:03 huginn tcohen: mtj was last seen in #koha 6 days, 6 hours, 56 minutes, and 8 seconds ago: * mtj not sure if it runs on mysql 5.5
18:04 tcohen @later tell mtj users are reporting that their label batches are not showing after upgrade (16.05..04 > 16.05.09)
18:04 huginn tcohen: The operation succeeded.
18:07 mtj hiya tcohen, thanks ^
18:07 mtj i'll take a look
18:07 mtj tcohen: is there a bug about for it?
18:11 tcohen i just got it reported
18:11 tcohen and confirmed it on their Koha
18:12 tcohen haven't even tried on master or 16.11
18:12 mtj bug 18044?
18:12 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=18044 critical, P2, ---, cnighswonger, Pushed to Stable , Label Batches not displaying
18:12 tcohen sounds like that's the one :-D
18:12 cait yep
18:12 cait sorry for that
18:13 cait ah, not my verrsion, but I got that bug too
18:15 tcohen mtj: you can safely mark it resolver-fixed once you apply it i think
18:26 mtj thanks, will do
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21:15 tt i have given koha-rebuild-zebra command is it possible for me to know whether how much data is indexed
21:15 tt and can i test it from terminal
21:15 tt i am trying to search from website but for more than an hour no records still searched
21:15 tt and can i know if any error
21:17 wizzycray tt if you ps ax |grep zebra
21:17 wizzycray do you have any zebras running?
21:17 tt yes
21:17 tt i can see processes
21:18 tt but i am not able to get any results yet in opac
21:19 tt is there any way i can know how much is indexed and how much remained
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