Time Nick Message 00:57 dcook This is interesting: Module::Pluggable was first released with perl v5.8.9, deprecated (will be CPAN-only) in v5.17.9 and removed from v5.19.0 02:32 mtj hey #koha, what do people think about a patch to set the default plack workers to 1, not 2? 02:36 mtj Koha seems to perform better with 1 worker, on small 1 gig systems 02:36 wizzycray i'm amazed it works at all 02:37 mtj yeah 02:40 mtj well, seems to be happy enough really on a 1 gig VM 02:43 mtj ..but with 2 workers, it seems to get the system swapping... unnecessarily :/ 02:43 wizzycray me personally, I think the people running on that small of a machine will be fewer and fewer 02:43 wizzycray changing the default to accommodate a shrinking number of users I'm kind of ehhhhh about 02:44 wizzycray especially if it could be helped by documenting what to do 02:44 wizzycray i.e. if this swaps forever, try doing blah blah blah 02:44 wizzycray but that's just me 02:45 mtj i think people are still using small sized VMs... i know i am 02:45 mtj are 02:46 mtj weasel :p 02:46 wizzycray dunno, instead of changing the default I'd make it easily configurable at install time 02:46 wizzycray if it's really a thing you want to do 02:46 wizzycray leave the default, let people specify either when they enable plack or when they install koha 02:47 wizzycray I guess my point is, are we going to get more people wanting to tune it up, or tune it down 02:47 mtj i think you have persuaded me :) 02:48 wizzycray it's worth thinking about anyway 02:48 wizzycray we don't want to make it unnecessarily hard on any user :) 03:11 mtj yes, agreed :) 03:12 mtj wiz, is there a crazy flu going around your office? .. i've got the worst head cold :/ 03:13 wizzycray hm, we've had a few sickies... my kid is currently battling a cold of some kind 05:18 mtj oh no, doesnt sound like much fun 06:45 * magnuse waves 06:52 josef_moravec cait: hi, are you around? 06:54 cait good morning josef_moravec 06:54 cait yes, for a bit longer 06:54 josef_moravec hi cait 06:55 josef_moravec regarding your comment 8 on bug 17988 - did you file a bug? 06:55 josef_moravec bug 17988 06:55 cait ah there is one 06:56 cait 17780 06:56 josef_moravec I would like to test bug 17780, but the broken javascript should be fixed firstr 06:56 cait i was answering oleg's comment before 06:56 josef_moravec oh, I see ;) 06:56 cait 17988 is in master and 16.11 now 06:56 josef_moravec sorry, don't look in the patch 06:56 cait but in master there is a problem with the follow-up 06:57 cait you need to revert that out possibly for testing - comment 8 06:57 cait i just skipped the follow-up then yesterday when pushing 06:57 cait if we can fix it within a week, 17780 could still make it into 16.11.04 06:58 josef_moravec these too bugs looks more like duplicates... 06:59 josef_moravec the right fix should be to change '#' to '//' as comment start in cataloguing.js 06:59 cait yep 06:59 cait i have left Joubu a later 07:00 cait hope he sees it 07:00 josef_moravec I could attach a counter patch, looks trivial 07:00 cait it is 07:01 * mtj waves to josef_moravec, cait :0) 07:01 cait hi mtj :) 07:01 josef_moravec hi mtj 07:01 mtj hey cait, i have a patch for you, for bug 18026 07:01 cait mtj: calling string freeze today or as soon as i hear back from bgkriegel 07:01 mtj just a heads up 07:02 mtj cool, thanks 07:03 cait hm 07:03 cait i will push it onw 07:03 cait so it makes the string freeze - thx! 07:03 magnuse guten morgen BüchereiKlara und mtj 07:03 magnuse cait++ 07:03 LibraryClaire hei magnuse 07:05 mtj god kveld magnuse 07:05 cait mtj: pushed! 07:05 cait magnuse: god morgen! 07:05 magnuse mtj: i wish :-) 07:05 bag aloha 07:05 magnuse guten morgen cait 07:05 magnuse bag: HI 07:05 cait hi bag 07:05 bag HI 07:05 wahanui privet, bag 07:05 LibraryClaire hi bag 07:05 LibraryClaire and #koha 07:07 * magnuse high fives bag wicked high 07:09 bag wicked HIGH 07:13 drojf hi #koha 07:14 LibraryClaire moin drojf 07:14 drojf hi LibraryClaire 07:20 LibraryClaire @wunder konstanz 07:21 drojf Das Wetter in Konstanz ist neblig. 07:21 * drojf plays bot 07:21 LibraryClaire huginn is awol 07:22 cait drojf: easy guess 07:22 cait hope i will find bsz 07:23 LibraryClaire one of those days when cycling across the river, if you look in any direction from the middle of the bridge all you see is white 07:36 Joubu hi 07:36 wahanui privet, Joubu 07:36 Joubu cait: sorry for the stupid follow-up 07:37 LibraryClaire bonjour Joubu 07:37 Joubu I do not think we need a new bug report for that, fix is trivial. Or just revert the follow-up 07:37 Joubu cait: what do you prefer? 07:37 alex_a bonjour 07:37 wahanui que tal, alex_a 07:51 reiveune hello 07:52 magnuse bonjour reiveune 07:52 reiveune salut magnuse 07:53 matts hi everyone 07:54 drojf hi matts 07:54 drojf hi magnuse and reiveune 07:56 magnuse hiya drojf and matts 08:23 cait Joubu: around? 08:23 Joubu yep 08:24 cait about bug 17960 08:24 cait ah i think i see 08:24 cait forget it - i was thinking it's simple replace, but it can be opac_news.new or new... and is not as easy as I thought 08:26 Joubu yes it should be as simple as replace <<opac_news.new>> with <<opac_news.content>>, but we never know: table alias, etc. 08:26 Joubu ha no 08:27 * Joubu grabs more tea 08:27 Joubu cait: where can it be 'new' only? 08:29 cait maybe in a column description 08:29 cait as 'new' 08:29 Joubu yes but this is not possible in notice templates, right? 08:30 Joubu Actually I was thinking about reports... 08:30 cait ah right 08:30 cait yeah me to 08:30 Joubu So I think my comment does not make sense 08:30 cait heh 08:30 cait yeah, i think with SQL it's hard 08:30 cait but for the notice templates it should work 08:30 Joubu I do not remember why I did not want to replace it, maybe just laziness 08:30 cait because the placeholder can only be <<...>> 08:31 cait I think we shoudl try and avoid people having to do manual changes after update when we can 08:31 cait not always possible, but in this case we might 08:33 cait i have commented with some sql we used in one of our updates 08:33 cait well, adapted from something i used 08:36 cait @later tell khall can you please push 17780? :) Still collecting all the bugs for 16.11.04 08:46 cait Joubu++ 09:55 eythian @wunder jordaan, ams 09:56 eythian huginn? 09:56 wahanui somebody said huginn was going sentient in order to help wahanui with the bot revolution 09:56 eythian huginn! 10:04 magnuse eythian: The current temperature in Amsterdam, Netherlands is 3.0°C (8:55 PM CET on February 13, 2017). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 70%. Dew Point: -2.0°C. Windchill: -2.0°C. Pressure: 30.33 in 1027 hPa (Steady). 10:16 eythian magnuse! 10:16 wahanui rumour has it magnuse is afraid that we added another 10000 bugs while he was eating pizza 10:16 eythian It looks like it should be summer out there, except there are still patches of unmelted snow/ice around. 11:48 magnuse eythian: why do you have patches of snow and ice lying around if you do not want them? 11:49 eythian magnuse: because I don't radiate enough heat to melt them all away in a reasonable time period 11:49 magnuse ah, gotcha 11:50 baptiste is that a feature that, by editing an existing circulation rule, if I only modify the patron category or the item type, a new rules is added, which not replaces the old one ? 12:27 marcelr hi #koha 12:27 marcelr aleisha++ # working on lists 12:52 oleonard Hi all 12:53 jenkins Project Koha_Master_D8 build #109: STILL UNSTABLE in 1 hr 40 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_D8/109/ 12:53 jenkins * kyle: Bug 17780 - When choose an author in authority results new window shows 12:53 jenkins * kyle: Bug 17780: Add a comment to explain the line 12:53 LibraryClaire hi oleonard 12:53 wahanui hi dear loon 12:53 oleonard Hi 13:07 francharb Morning #koha 13:15 oleonard Hi francharb 13:15 LibraryClaire hi francharb 13:17 oleonard Hey QA team you all are doing a great job and are great! 13:18 oleonard Just wanted to say so. 13:18 eythian hi oleopard 13:19 Shane-S Since I am so far behind 3.20.02....would doing a backup export and then import into a new install be the best option? My server is virtualized anyway so spinning up and making a new ubuntu server isn't going to cost me anything 13:20 Shane-S and yes I installed from packages back at like 3.09 13:21 oleonard Shane-S: Yes, generally speaking that is the right procedure for that kind of upgrade 13:24 eythian of course, if it's all virtualised, I'd snapshot and try the upgrade. 13:24 eythian if it works, it'll be easier, and if it doesn't, nothing lost. 13:29 Shane-S yeah, but its live in use, so i figure I can just work on a new server, then export / import tonight 13:29 Shane-S plus its had a few little glitches you guys helped me work through last summer 13:30 Shane-S but they seemed to be from me upgrading in large gaps already 13:30 Shane-S I think I did 3.07 ->3.09 then 3.12 or 3.14 and then all the way to 3.20 13:31 Shane-S I mean its really a compliment to the efforts...and bad on my account....but its just works so I leave it alone 13:32 eythian oh right, if you want to keep it live then there's nothing wrong with loading the db into a new server. At the least it'll mean you get updated config files, and can do some test runs before doing the production cutover. 13:46 oleonard Y'all are going to be so mad when I demand that everyone starts linting their CSS. 13:49 marcelr demand? 13:50 LibraryClaire hehe 13:52 * oleonard is here to chew gum and make enemies over CSS style guides and is all out of chewing gum 13:56 drojf @wunder berlin, germany 13:56 drojf ah, right 13:58 oleonard Weather no longer exists 13:58 LibraryClaire huginn is holidaying 13:59 * LibraryClaire thinks huginn is smart 13:59 oleonard Every time gmcharlt's cats feel they're getting too little attention they sabotage huginn 14:01 eythian @wunder jordaan, ams 14:01 huginn eythian: The current temperature in Geuzenbuurt Amsterdam, Amsterdam, Netherlands is 12.8°C (3:00 PM CET on February 15, 2017). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 73%. Dew Point: 8.0°C. Pressure: 30.42 in 1030 hPa (Steady). 14:01 eythian works for me drojf :) 14:01 eythian also holy shit 13° 14:02 oleonard Weather again? Why did I throw away my umbrella... 14:03 gmcharlt @quote add <oleonard> Every time gmcharlt's cats feel they're getting too little attention they sabotage huginn 14:03 huginn gmcharlt: The operation succeeded. Quote #327 added. 14:03 oleonard gmcharlt I think you're the only one who remembers how to add quotes anymore 14:04 LibraryClaire @wunder konstanz 14:04 huginn LibraryClaire: The current temperature in Jungerhalde, Konstanz, Germany is 4.0°C (2:27 PM CET on February 15, 2017). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 89%. Dew Point: 2.0°C. Windchill: 3.0°C. Pressure: 30.57 in 1035 hPa (Steady). 14:07 oleonard @wunder 45701 14:07 huginn oleonard: The current temperature in Longview Hts, Athens, Ohio is 2.6°C (9:07 AM EST on February 15, 2017). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 47%. Dew Point: -8.0°C. Windchill: 1.0°C. Pressure: 29.69 in 1005 hPa (Steady). 14:25 magnuse add quote? 14:25 magnuse quote add? 14:26 magnuse quotes? 14:26 drojf you need a bot for that 14:26 gmcharlt @quote add <drojf> you need a bot for that 14:26 huginn gmcharlt: The operation succeeded. Quote #328 added. 14:26 drojf oh hi there huginn and gmcharlt 14:26 magnuse i thought i added a tip for it 14:27 LibraryClaire wahanui? 14:27 wahanui yes, LibraryClaire? 14:27 * LibraryClaire pokes wahanui 14:27 wahanui I'm reporting you to HR! 14:27 magnuse adding quotes? 14:27 magnuse bleurgh 14:27 LibraryClaire quote? 14:27 magnuse @quote random 14:27 huginn magnuse: Quote #166: "jcamins: this is IRC. There's a several decade long tradition of lurking." (added by wizzyrea at 03:06 PM, November 17, 2011) 14:27 wahanui i already had it that way, huginn. 14:28 LibraryClaire bot wars 14:33 jenkins Project Koha_Master_D8 build #110: STILL UNSTABLE in 1 hr 40 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_D8/110/ 14:33 jenkins kyle: Bug 18119: Fix comment in cataloguing.js 14:33 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=18119 trivial, P5 - low, ---, josef.moravec, Pushed to Master , Bug 17988 broke cataloging javascript functionality 14:38 drojf @wunder berlin, germany 14:38 huginn drojf: The current temperature in Berlin, Berlin, Germany is 9.3°C (3:09 PM CET on February 15, 2017). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 64%. Dew Point: 3.0°C. Windchill: 8.0°C. Pressure: 30.51 in 1033 hPa (Steady). 15:28 Joubu cait: see bug 18111 for the next release 15:28 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=18111 major, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Needs Signoff , Import default framework is broken 15:31 cait hm has nos trings 15:32 cait i can still push it duing the next days if it makes it in before 22nd 15:32 cait Joubu 15:32 cait :) 15:39 tcohen morning 15:50 oleonard I'm just saying... Putting a sass-lint plugin into Sublime Text has been revelatory. 15:59 LibraryClaire laters #koha 16:28 reiveune bye 16:39 oleonard Hadn't heard of this until today: https://cliqz.com/ 16:46 eythian oleonard: a closed source browser? Sounds like a bad start. 16:52 oleonard Based on Firefox it seems, and they have /some/ code on github anyway. 17:13 oleonard Bye all 17:20 tcohen oleonard: using Sublime? 18:03 tcohen @seen mtj 18:03 huginn tcohen: mtj was last seen in #koha 6 days, 6 hours, 56 minutes, and 8 seconds ago: * mtj not sure if it runs on mysql 5.5 18:04 tcohen @later tell mtj users are reporting that their label batches are not showing after upgrade (16.05..04 > 16.05.09) 18:04 huginn tcohen: The operation succeeded. 18:07 mtj hiya tcohen, thanks ^ 18:07 mtj i'll take a look 18:07 mtj tcohen: is there a bug about for it? 18:11 tcohen i just got it reported 18:11 tcohen and confirmed it on their Koha 18:12 tcohen haven't even tried on master or 16.11 18:12 mtj bug 18044? 18:12 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=18044 critical, P2, ---, cnighswonger, Pushed to Stable , Label Batches not displaying 18:12 tcohen sounds like that's the one :-D 18:12 cait yep 18:12 cait sorry for that 18:13 cait ah, not my verrsion, but I got that bug too 18:15 tcohen mtj: you can safely mark it resolver-fixed once you apply it i think 18:26 mtj thanks, will do 21:15 tt i have given koha-rebuild-zebra command is it possible for me to know whether how much data is indexed 21:15 tt and can i test it from terminal 21:15 tt i am trying to search from website but for more than an hour no records still searched 21:15 tt and can i know if any error 21:17 wizzycray tt if you ps ax |grep zebra 21:17 wizzycray do you have any zebras running? 21:17 tt yes 21:17 tt i can see processes 21:18 tt but i am not able to get any results yet in opac 21:19 tt is there any way i can know how much is indexed and how much remained