IRC log for #koha, 2017-01-24

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00:03 tmcmahon I didn't see any reason to keep it open if it's fixed and pushed to stable.  Keep people from taking their time on it when there are other things to deal with.
00:04 rangi yep
00:05 tmcmahon Thanks rangi
00:07 tmcmahon CrispyBran: I just added my comment confirming that hold limits didn't work for me either.
00:09 tmcmahon But I got to the limit by placing multiple holds at once.  It seems to work if I add them one at a time.  I need to double-check that.
00:10 tmcmahon I need to re-edit my comment.  It works for one at a time.  At least for me.
00:11 tmcmahon I guess add a new comment.  I can't change what I already have there.
00:13 CrispyBran Hmmm...perhaps I am just missing something.  Would you have any time tomorrow to look over my setup with me?
00:14 CrispyBran "But I got to the limit by placing multiple holds at once.  It seems to work if I add them one at a time. "  I'm confused.  Did it only work with multiple holds at once, or did it work if you placed holds one at a time?
00:16 tmcmahon I had the limit set to 5 and already had one hold, so I just selected 5 more from a search and reserved all at once.  It let me do that.
00:17 tmcmahon Then I deleted two and added reserved one at a time.  It let me reserve the first (actually fifth), but not the next.
00:17 tmcmahon So it works for one at a time (for me at least), but seems to ignore the limit if I add multiple reserves.
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00:20 CrispyBran I have to run.  tmcmahon, thanks for the info.  I was doing 1 at at time, and it wasn't stopping it.  If you have a few minutes, would you mind looking at the #1 ByWater sandbox and see if you see something off about my rules?
00:20 CrispyBran If not, I will take a look again myself, tomorrow.
00:23 tmcmahon A quick look and I don't see what could be wrong.  I'll keep looking.
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00:24 CrispyBran Thanks.  Catch you later.
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02:11 dcook LibraryClaire is totally killing January sign offs :D
02:20 dcook Coworker with cait? That's cool :D
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04:05 mtompset Greetings, #koha.
04:21 dcook Oh wow... just found quite the bug
04:25 mtompset Do tell.
04:25 dcook Go to /cgi-bin/koha/cataloguing/
04:25 dcook and type "1st to die" into the Cataloging search
04:25 dcook You should get a SQL error
04:25 dcook Because of some... very interesting code
04:26 dcook I'm typing up the bug report now
04:26 mtompset Does it try to treat the 1 as a biblionumber or something?
04:27 dcook Even better
04:27 wahanui Even better is what oleopard said just after that
04:27 dcook It thinks it's an ISBN because the string is 10 characters long and it contains a number
04:27 mtompset Oh wow. That's awesomely awful.
04:27 dcook But when you try to normalize the ISBN, it turns the string into a blank, which means you don't get any where clause in your SQL select which causes the error
04:27 dcook Yeah!
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04:28 dcook Of course, if the SQL select was done better, you wouldn't see the error, and it would be harder to troubleshoot..
04:28 dcook The code is from 2009 but still..
04:28 mtompset true, but wow.
04:29 mtompset Anyone want an easy sign off? bug 17935
04:29 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=17935 trivial, P5 - low, ---,, Needs Signoff , Adjust some POD lines, fix a few typos
04:30 mtompset I could only sign half of it, because he missed some, and I put the rest up. :)
04:30 dcook That does look like an easy sign off
04:30 dcook I'll take a gander
04:30 dcook bug 17979
04:30 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=17979 minor, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , Fatal error when searching from due to ISBN flaw
04:38 dcook mtompset: that should be done now
04:39 mtompset dcook++ # thanks for the sign off. :)
04:41 dcook np one of those multitasking days
04:41 mtompset Well, tomorrow is going to be a long day.
04:41 mtompset Have a great day (24 hour period), #koha dcook
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06:52 drojf morning #koha
06:55 drojf @later tell rangi i think you filtered the security patches from the dashboard. is it possible to get the signoffs counted nonetheless?
06:55 huginn drojf: The operation succeeded.
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07:08 LibraryClaire morning #koha
07:09 drojf guten morgen BüchereiKlara
07:12 LibraryClaire moin drojf
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07:44 reiveune hello
07:48 LibraryClaire hey reiveune
07:48 wahanui reiveune is working for biblibre
07:48 LibraryClaire wahanui likes this fact :)
07:48 wahanui LibraryClaire: excuse me?
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07:54 alex_a bonjour
07:54 wahanui que tal, alex_a
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07:58 LibraryClaire hey alex_a
07:58 alex_a salut LibraryClaire
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08:06 fridolin hie ther
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08:16 * magnuse waves
08:17 LibraryClaire hi magnuse
08:17 LibraryClaire salut fridolin
08:17 magnuse guten morgen BüchereiKlara
08:17 fridolin salutations tout le monde
08:17 magnuse bonjour fridolin
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08:34 Joubu que tal, wahanui
08:34 wahanui bidet, Joubu
08:37 Joubu bidet, wahanui
08:37 wahanui Joubu: i'm not following you...
08:37 LibraryClaire are you teasing the bot?
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08:38 Joubu just confirming it was stupid
08:39 LibraryClaire poor wahanui
08:39 wahanui Will he ever win?
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09:09 eythian hi
09:17 drojf hi eythian
09:21 magnuse moin drojf eythian
09:21 drojf hei magnuse
09:23 eythian hi drojf, magnuse
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09:32 sunnie hi koha friends
09:32 sunnie hope u r all having a good day
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09:34 sunnie can the number of records in the items table differ from that in biblio table and biblioitems tables
09:35 eythian sunnie: yes, it's very normal for the items table count to be different.
09:36 sunnie is it because there are multiple items for the same record?
09:36 eythian yep
09:36 eythian (or, more rarely, zero items for a record.)
09:37 sunnie thanks bro
09:37 sunnie bye
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10:28 eythian It's sunny _and_ foggy outside. That's a weird looking mix.
10:28 eythian @wunder ams
10:28 huginn eythian: The current temperature in Amsterdam, Netherlands is 1.0°C (11:25 AM CET on January 24, 2017). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 100%. Dew Point: 1.0°C. Windchill: -1.0°C. Pressure: 30.36 in 1028 hPa (Steady).
10:29 eythian 100% humidity, that'll do it.
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10:53 tcohen morning
10:54 tcohen @wunder cordoba, argentina
10:54 huginn tcohen: The current temperature in Cordoba, Argentina is 18.0°C (7:00 AM ART on January 24, 2017). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 83%. Dew Point: 15.0°C. Pressure: 29.80 in 1009 hPa (Steady).
10:55 LibraryClaire hola tcohen
10:55 eythian oh, now the whole city out the window has vanished.
10:55 * kidclamp waves
10:56 tcohen hola LibraryClaire
10:57 LibraryClaire hey kidclamp
10:57 wahanui kidclamp is rockin the stache
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11:12 LibraryClaire gosh, the weather deities weren't happy with those requests
11:12 LibraryClaire @wunder konstanz
11:12 huginn LibraryClaire: The current temperature in Mainaustraße, Konstanz, Germany is -2.0°C (12:08 PM CET on January 24, 2017). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 80%. Dew Point: -5.0°C. Windchill: -2.0°C. Pressure: 30.27 in 1025 hPa (Falling).
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11:16 magnuse @wunder enbo
11:16 huginn magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 1.0°C (11:50 AM CET on January 24, 2017). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 65%. Dew Point: -5.0°C. Windchill: -6.0°C. Pressure: 29.92 in 1013 hPa (Steady).
11:29 kidclamp @wunder 05001
11:29 huginn kidclamp: The current temperature in Wilder Street, Hartford, Vermont is -0.7°C (6:29 AM EST on January 24, 2017). Conditions: Light Rain. Humidity: 93%. Dew Point: -2.0°C. Windchill: -1.0°C. Pressure: 29.67 in 1005 hPa (Falling). Winter Weather Advisory in effect until 10 PM EST this evening...
11:48 * tcohen unhides
11:49 tcohen Joubu: I don't understand comment 10
11:50 Joubu tcohen: Hi Tomas! What's the # again?
11:50 tcohen https://bugs.koha-community.or[…].cgi?id=16749#c10
11:50 huginn Bug 16749: enhancement, P5 - low, ---,, Needs Signoff , Follow-up for bug 16733: changes for koha-translate
11:52 Joubu marcelr was suggesting to add a new entry to koha-conf, to know if the install was a dev install or not
11:52 Joubu so he added a <dev_install> tag with the path of the (gitified) install
11:53 Joubu but it seems that dev_install will always be == to intranetdir (if filled)
11:53 Joubu so I suggested to move it to a boolean (I know you love boolean ;)) instead of repeating the same path
11:54 Joubu unless there is a case where dev_install could be != intranetdir
11:54 Joubu (but I do not think so)
12:02 tcohen Joubu: I prefer the boolean
12:02 Joubu so please comment ;)
12:02 tcohen and if needed, nested options
12:02 tcohen like special path or whatever
12:02 tcohen ok i will
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12:14 marcelr hi #koha
12:19 eythian marcelr: what's happening, Amsterdam isn't rendering more than a few 10s of metres away. Is this normal?
12:19 eythian I think the video card needs to be upgraded.
12:20 marcelr not sure if i understand you
12:20 marcelr mistig
12:20 Joubu The audio card as well :)
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12:47 oleonard Hi all
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12:52 LibraryClaire hi oleonard
12:52 wahanui hi olé onard
12:52 LibraryClaire :(
12:52 * LibraryClaire pokes wahanui
12:52 wahanui I'm reporting you to HR!
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13:06 tcohen hi marcelr
13:06 marcelr hi tcohen
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13:40 * LibraryClaire falls asleep
13:41 * oleonard draws the Koha logo on LibraryClaire's forehead
13:41 eythian could be worse.
13:41 LibraryClaire aaw man
13:41 LibraryClaire yeah eythian I was thinking that
13:42 eythian could have been the SirsiDynix logo.
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13:51 * ashimema giggles
13:52 edveal Hello
13:52 wahanui salut, edveal
13:52 tcohen1 hi ashimema
13:53 * LibraryClaire waves at ashimema
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13:57 ashimema h
13:57 ashimema :)
13:58 * ashimema goes to make :tea:
13:58 * ashimema realises this isn't slack and so emoji like that don't work
13:58 ashimema ☕works though :)
13:59 * tcohen was trying to find them
13:59 ashimema find what... a tea emoji ;)
14:01 tcohen a way to tell my irc client to render emojis better
14:01 kidclamp ☕
14:02 ashimema hehe
14:02 ashimema what client do you use tcohen?
14:04 tcohen ashimema: i guess bugzilla spammed you about bug https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]_bug.cgi?id=17932
14:04 tcohen if you have the chance to take a look, I would appreciate it
14:04 huginn Bug 17932: enhancement, P5 - low, ---, tomascohen, Needs Signoff , Koha::Object should provide a TO_JSON method
14:04 LibraryClaire I just get a bunch of squares with dots in :(
14:04 tcohen adium
14:05 tcohen I see the cup of coffee
14:05 tcohen but I think I need to choose a better font
14:07 oleonard I like that a search for ☕ in DuckDuckGo returns results for "coffee" and Google just returns results for ☕
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14:08 ashimema tcohen.. patch looks good to me
14:08 oleonard ...although I guess that doesn't make any sense if by "☕" you mean hot chocolate, tea, or generic hot beverage.
14:08 oleonard Mmmm.... generic hot beverage.
14:09 LibraryClaire mmm, dice
14:09 ashimema indeed.. in theory thay emoji is classified as 'hot beverage'.. though I always use it for tea..
14:09 ashimema there is actually an emoji for coffee too
14:09 LibraryClaire does it look... the same...?
14:09 ashimema nope
14:09 oleonard It looks the same but it tastes very different
14:10 ashimema 🍵
14:10 ashimema coffee :)
14:10 LibraryClaire square with dots in
14:10 ashimema lol
14:10 LibraryClaire looks the same to me
14:10 ashimema[…]ar/2615/index.htm tea
14:10 ashimema[…]r/1f375/index.htm coffee
14:11 ashimema though actually.. the difference there in terms of classificaiton is far from clear ;)
14:11 LibraryClaire but it says teacup without handle
14:12 ashimema yeah.. I was sure there was one which was actually defined as 'coffee'
14:12 ashimema mwah
14:13 oleonard What's your IRC client LibraryClaire ?
14:13 LibraryClaire pidgin when at the office
14:13 LibraryClaire hexchat at home
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14:14 magnuse LibraryClaire: you might want to have a look at your settings
14:14 magnuse i had to do some trickery in xchat to make unicode work properly
14:15 * ashimema uses smuxi but is getting more and more tempted to move irc to the cloud and either get irccloud or host convos somewhere
14:15 LibraryClaire i think my desktop at home has smuxi still
14:15 * LibraryClaire is trying everything
14:15 ashimema looks nice
14:15 ashimema but it's web based and you'll need to host it somewhere
14:15 * magnuse saw irssi on tv the other day
14:16 ashimema hehe
14:16 * oleonard still likes standalone Chatzilla
14:17 * tcohen likes smuxi
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14:18 * LibraryClaire thinks they are all teh same and likes pretty things
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14:18 LibraryClaire actually that's not strictly true but I have yet to discover an advantage of one over another
14:19 oleonard LibraryClaire: Pretty things like squares with dots?
14:19 magnuse
14:20 ashimema :D
14:20 * ashimema only anoyance with smuxi is I've never been able to work out how to get it to run headless and then connect to it from multiple front ends..
14:21 ashimema and thus.. I loose track when I switch from desktop to laptop or mobile
14:21 ashimema and my logs fall out of sync.. hense why I'm tempted by a hosted solution
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14:26 LibraryClaire oleonard: I also like variety
14:29 oleonard Bug 17979 is amusing to me.
14:29 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=17979 minor, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , Fatal error when searching from due to ISBN flaw
14:29 oleonard '"1st to die"  is 10 characters long and contains a digit, so
14:29 oleonard Koha thinks it's an ISBN.'
14:33 Joubu oleonard: I guess the regex should be m|^[\d-]*$|;
14:34 Joubu 0-9 + -
14:34 Joubu instead of "at least 1 \d"
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14:50 tcohen liw: is there any known restriction on the use of /var/cache/ for debian packages?
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15:25 liw tcohen1, only what it says in the FHS
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15:30 oleonard Bye LibraryClaire
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15:38 Joubu oleonard: I'd like to get your opinions on this idea: bug 17981
15:38 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=17981 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Needs Signoff , Add the ability to preview generated notice templates
15:38 Joubu I am not sure about the use of the modal window
15:39 oleonard Okay I'll take a look
15:39 Joubu and how display things correctly to make the comparaison easier
15:40 Joubu Thanks oleonard! As I said on the last comment, checkout the remote branch, the tree of deps is huge..
15:40 Joubu khall: ^ for you as well ;)
15:40 khall I will too
15:47 khall Joubu: what bugs does this acutally depend on? Do you have a branch pushed out to anywhere?
15:48 Joubu khall: yes, see last comment of the bug
15:48 khall ah, thanks!
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15:50 oleonard Joubu: When I test it with the checkin template, the modal shows me "Converted version" and "Rendered message" but the rendered message box is empty, and I get a "generated notices are different!" warning.
15:50 oleonard I'm confused.
15:51 Joubu oleonard: did you execute the updateDB + restart plack?
15:52 oleonard Yes
15:52 Joubu ha yes, same for me
15:53 Joubu oleonard: I finished with HOLD_SLIP and did not retest CHECKIN/CHECKOUT at the end
15:53 Joubu so I guess I broke something
15:53 Joubu you can test HOLD_SLIP
15:53 oleonard Okay
15:55 Joubu oleonard: Ha no actually CHECKIN work, you need to fill the "data for preview" with the barcode of an item that is currently checked out
15:56 Joubu (the error is not correctly handled in case the item is not checked out)
15:57 khall Joubu: I love it!
15:57 khall this is exactly the kind of preview we've needed for years, I love the way it uses real data
15:58 Joubu the problem is that we cannot generate data that does not exist.
15:58 khall it might be tricky for html notices though, are iframes still a thing?
15:58 khall Joubu: true, but I think that's a worthwhile tradeoff
15:58 Joubu For instance for CHECKIN, we will not checkin the item to get a correct "issues" entry in the DB
15:59 khall Joubu: you do have a point, I hadn't thought of such a limitation
15:59 Joubu khall: html notices are displayed with the html tags
15:59 khall Joubu: ah, makes sense
15:59 oleonard Joubu: Initial comments: I think the modal window works well for this purpose but I didn't notice the "data for preview" field. Could we incorporate the add data step into the modal?
16:00 Joubu oleonard: ha yes indeed, that would make sense
16:00 Joubu unless we want to test the different "transports"
16:00 Joubu we will have to fill the data N times
16:00 bag love it
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16:01 oleonard Joubu: What if the "data for preview" entry in the modal updates hidden form fields in the body of the page?
16:01 oleonard we'd need to add a way to update the data for preview
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16:02 Joubu oleonard: yes, but.. I am really bad at JS things and it takes me hours for that kind of stuffs :p
16:03 Joubu but I can try
16:03 oleonard Let me know if I can help
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16:04 Joubu oleonard: ha yes, one thing
16:04 Joubu with CHECKIN, a message is displayed
16:05 Joubu something like "do not forget that the item is not checked in yet"
16:05 Joubu it must be displayed at the top of the modal
16:05 * LibraryClaire waves
16:05 Joubu if you look at tools/, you will see the loop on the messages (to display the "div dialog alert")
16:05 Joubu but they actually displayes at the bottom of the modal
16:06 Joubu it seems to happen to any div element
16:06 Joubu it's very weird
16:06 * Joubu did not read the bootstrap3 doc for modals...
16:07 Joubu oleonard: I also thing we should display the screen in 2: one block per syntax
16:07 Joubu and having the 2 versions side-by-side would help to find the changes
16:09 magnuse bag: HI
16:09 wahanui niihau, magnuse
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16:14 Joubu oleonard: just pushed a "better error handling" patch that should display better warning message in case the data field not correctly filled
16:14 Joubu is*
16:15 oleonard About this line Joubu: $("#preview_template .modal-body").load(page + " div");
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16:17 oleonard Wait, maybe I'm misunderstanding what's going on...
16:17 Joubu I c/p all the modal stuffs from bug 17898
16:17 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=17898 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Needs Signoff , Add a way to automatically convert SQL reports
16:17 Joubu with Josef's followup
16:18 Joubu and I think I already copy/pasted from somewhere else
16:18 Joubu oleonard: page is the url, so I guess it's the place the ajax request is done
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16:19 oleonard It's not incorrect, I'm just looking at the message being displayed at the bottom rather than the top
16:20 oleonard Okay, yeah. The + " div" part of that is loading the contents of all <div> tags in in the order that they appear
16:21 oleonard Oh sorry it's not that simple.
16:21 oleonard maybe it's because the did is nested...
16:22 Joubu it works if I remove it
16:23 Joubu and I think I should move the "exactly the same" div to the top as well
16:25 oleonard I don't think there are negative consequences of taking out the + "<div>" in this case.
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16:56 oleonard Joubu: I'm tinkering with that modal template
16:57 Joubu oleonard: I have pushed another patch few minutes ago about the + " div" thing
16:57 Joubu feel free to submit follow-up :)
16:59 oleonard That's my plan
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17:09 tmcmahon CrispyBran: I checked the sandbox you mentioned yesterday and hold limits worked fine for me.
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18:28 oleonard Joubu: Is this the kind of layout you were thinking of?
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18:33 Joubu oleonard: awesome, it is exactly what I had in mind indeed :)
18:33 bag awesome
18:33 wahanui That'll be $1 for the awesome jar, bag
18:33 Joubu well, it was more left and right instead of up and down
18:33 cait Joubu++ oleonard++
18:34 Joubu I don't think it matters a lot
18:34 oleonard Oh I see, comparing the template, then comparing the output
18:34 Joubu yep
18:36 Joubu I was thinking about highlighting the lines that differ between the 2 versions, so that would make more sense to have them side-by-side
18:36 Joubu if side-by-side means "left-right only" :p
18:37 bag @wunder pdx
18:37 huginn bag: The current temperature in Portland, Oregon is 1.0°C (9:53 AM PST on January 24, 2017). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 96%. Dew Point: 0.0°C. Pressure: 30.17 in 1022 hPa (Rising). Winter Weather Advisory in effect until 1 PM PST Wednesday...
18:37 oleonard Uh oh. Does anyone know how to drive in winter weather in Portland bag?
18:37 bag nobody does :)
18:38 bag stay home :)
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19:07 nuentoter hello koha world!
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21:54 magnuse @wunder enbo
21:54 huginn magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 6.0°C (10:20 PM CET on January 24, 2017). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 70%. Dew Point: 1.0°C. Windchill: 1.0°C. Pressure: 29.71 in 1006 hPa (Steady).
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22:03 martian523 hi! kinda need some urgent help. using koha 16.05.07.  this error came up when i tried to look up vendors in acquisitions: Can't use an undefined value as an ARRAY reference at /usr/lib/perl5/ line 2054
22:03 cait are you logged in with a normal staff user?
22:04 cait nto the db one?
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22:08 martian523 <cait> logged in as superuser
22:08 cait superuser or superlibrarian?
22:09 cait you shouldn't work in Koha with the db user
22:09 martian523 superlibrarian
22:09 wahanui superlibrarian is one of the permissions
22:09 martian523 sorry
22:09 cait ok, just wanted to be clear :)
22:09 martian523 has no trouble before upgrade
22:09 cait I haven't seen an error like this in 16.11 or on 3.22 - haven't used 16.05 much
22:09 cait maybe try on th emailing list - bit quiet here this time of day
22:10 martian523 upgraded from 3.18
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22:20 * liz repeats that the onboarding tool avoids this "i logged in with the superuser" problem
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22:26 dcook liz: I wonder if there's ever a time when a person should be able to log in as the superuser... I suppose in the case of lockouts..
22:26 liz of course there is
22:26 liz but there is never a reason for a first time user to.
22:31 eythian @later tell drojf[…]t/~3/kBZG9OfB3EM/
22:31 huginn eythian: The operation succeeded.
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22:39 mtj hi #koha
22:39 mtj martian523, i cant reproduce your error on 16.5.7 :(
22:40 mtj ..curious, whats your search string?
22:42 bag hey mtj
22:42 mtj hiya bag
22:43 mtj great to hear the about superuser issue, getting fixed(er)
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22:46 mtj martian523: do you get that error searching a blank string, or  '%' ?
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22:55 dcook Hey, cait. Are you still there?
22:57 dcook Damn. Oh wll.
22:57 dcook Sticky e key >_>
23:03 dcook rangi: Are you around?
23:03 dcook Or anyone who has been a RM or QA person?
23:03 dcook wizzyrea?
23:03 wahanui wizzyrea is probably here to help. And sometimes hinder. But mostly help.
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23:10 bag what’s up dcook
23:10 dcook bag: My fix for bug 17880 actually created a new bug >_>
23:10 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=17880 normal, P5 - low, ---, dcook, Pushed to Stable , C4::Installer::PerlModules lexicographical comparison is incorrect
23:10 dcook I have a new patch which I've uploaded to that bug report
23:10 dcook But not sure of the protocol of what to do now
23:11 dcook Should I open a new bug report, or...?
23:11 dcook It's in 16.11.02 and master :/
23:11 dcook Silly copy/paste error on my part. One line fix.
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23:11 bag hmm good question - I’d open a new bug and mark it critical
23:12 bag it’s a 1 line patch that should get in pretty quickly
23:13 bag as for 16.11.02 it maybe too late to revert that - so we’ll just apply the patch and have it fixed for .03
23:13 bag but anyways nice catch dcook
23:15 dcook Sounds like a plan. I'll do that.
23:16 dcook I thought that I'd chcked that script before uploading but oh well. Embarassing. People with packages shouldn't notice it much i think
23:18 dcook unless they go to /cgi-bin/koha/
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23:23 CrispyBran @bag: who do I talk to about the ByWater sandboxes?
23:23 huginn CrispyBran: I'll give you the answer just as soon as RDA is ready
23:24 CrispyBran bag: who do I talk to about the ByWater sandboxes?
23:27 dcook bag: Patch posted on bug 17986
23:27 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=17986 critical, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, Needs Signoff , Perl dependency evaluation incorrect
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23:36 dcook I was looking this morning if Business::ISBN was a required module and then wondered why Koha said I should upgrade all my modules...
23:55 bag ah sorry CrispyBran I went to the store to get some icecream - it’s my dogs birthday tonight
23:55 bag he gets it once a year ;)
23:55 CrispyBran its okay.  I got my answer
23:55 CrispyBran thanks.
23:55 bag but for the sandboxes - khall set them up
23:56 CrispyBran Maybe you can answer this....isn't there a setting that prevents a patron from placing a hold on items if it is available and on the shelf?  I can't seem to find it.
23:57 bag there is a setting
23:57 bag it’s called onshelfholds iirc
23:58 liz it's in the circ rules now
23:59 jac bag I sent the ticket to khall for CrispyBran :-)
23:59 liz you can do it per itype/patron category
23:59 bag ah
23:59 bag sweet
23:59 CrispyBran got it. Darn these upgrades.
23:59 CrispyBran :)
23:59 liz it's the column "on shelf holds allowed"
23:59 liz it has several options

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