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BobB |
hi folks |
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BobB |
bug 7317 is about ILL |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7317 new feature, P5 - low, ---, alex.sassmannshausen, NEW , Add an Interlibrary Loan Module to Circulation and OPAC |
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BobB |
but hasn't been updated since march 2015 |
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BobB |
does anyone know if there is work gonig on? |
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cait |
hm definietely was after 2015 |
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cait |
I think magnuse was testing it |
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BobB |
hi cait |
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cait |
did you see the URL in the bug? https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/ILL_Module |
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cait |
hm |
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cait |
probably best to wait fo ran answer on the bug |
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cait |
g |
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BobB |
yep, and I'll check with magnuse when he comes into the channel |
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BobB |
it must be the middle of the night where you are cait? :) |
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cait |
yep - def should be sleeping :) |
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BobB |
ok, leave you to it :) |
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cait |
have a nice day :) |
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cait |
@wunder Konstanz |
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Hey, I’ve got a question about installing koha on ubuntu where the www and mysql are on different servers, the documentation isn’t entirely clear |
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waves to BobB and #koha |
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BobB |
hi magnuse |
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* BobB |
waves from down under |
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magnuse |
yay! |
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magnuse |
ptfse have been working on the ill module |
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BobB |
yay! |
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magnuse |
atheia or ashimema should be able to give you the details |
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magnuse |
but i think they are getting close to submitting it |
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BobB |
very cool |
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magnuse |
the goal has been to create a generic ill module that can be configured to support different workflows |
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magnuse |
atheia demoed it in marseille, and it looked pretty neat |
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BobB |
we have a prospective client who's interested |
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BobB |
I'd reckon its a big piece of work |
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BobB |
I guess ptfs havae a client they are doing it for? |
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BobB |
it almost fills in the last big gap in koha as far as traditional LMSs go |
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BobB |
very cool |
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BobB |
ashimema +1 |
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BobB |
magnuse how is Oslo PL going? they went live I think? |
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magnuse |
yeah, i'd also say ill is the last big missing piece |
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magnuse |
i think they have customers using it already |
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magnuse |
yeah, OPL went live while we were in marseille last time |
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magnuse |
i think they are doing ok, i have not heard a whole lot from them |
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BobB |
no noise is good noise :) |
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magnuse |
:-) |
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magnuse |
BobB: you can see their stuff here: https://sok.deichman.no/search?query=hamsun |
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magnuse |
everything the borrowers see they made themselves |
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magnuse |
koha is only used internally |
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BobB |
yep |
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BobB |
I can't read much of that :) |
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morning #koha |
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bonjour |
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hie |
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reiveune |
hello |
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wahanui |
privet, reiveune |
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hi #koha |
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cait |
good morning #koha |
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marcelr |
hi cait |
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hi marcelr |
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waves |
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magnuse |
@wunder enbo |
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huginn |
magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 4.0°C (10:20 AM CET on January 23, 2017). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 93%. Dew Point: 3.0°C. Windchill: 1.0°C. Pressure: 29.56 in 1001 hPa (Steady). |
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forecast says we will have +10 on wednesday or thursday |
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eythian |
@wunder ams |
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eythian: The current temperature in Amsterdam, Netherlands is 0.0°C (10:25 AM CET on January 23, 2017). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 93%. Dew Point: -1.0°C. Pressure: 30.33 in 1027 hPa (Steady). |
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eythian |
also, hi |
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magnuse |
hiya eythian |
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cait |
Joubu++ |
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cait |
just beat me to answer on the bug |
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cait |
@wunder Konstanz |
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cait: The current temperature in Mainaustraße, Konstanz, Germany is -2.8°C (10:59 AM CET on January 23, 2017). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 82%. Dew Point: -5.0°C. Windchill: -3.0°C. Pressure: 30.24 in 1024 hPa (Steady). |
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cait |
colder than norway *grump* |
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cait |
marcelr++ - very brave takingon all those authority bugs :) |
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marcelr |
cait: just halfway |
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tcohen |
morning |
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marcelr |
hi tcohen |
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Joubu |
khall: around? |
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khall |
what's up? |
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Joubu |
hi! |
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khall |
mornin! |
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Joubu |
I have a wording question :) |
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khall |
sure! |
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Joubu |
I am create a Koha::Object[s] based class for the message_queue table |
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Joubu |
but |
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Joubu |
Koha::MessageQueue and Koha::MessageQueues do not make sense |
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Joubu |
as we do not have several queues |
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Joubu |
so I have Koha::MessageQueue and Koha::MessagesQueue |
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* cait |
waves |
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Joubu |
or Koha::QueuedMessage and Koha::QueuedMessages |
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Joubu |
in mind |
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Joubu |
but I do not manage to decide, and maybe you will have a third suggestion :) |
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marcelr |
Joubu: Koha::MessagesQueue is confusing |
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cait |
Koha:MessageQueueEntries? |
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kidclamp_away |
I like QueuedMessage(s) |
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Joubu |
kidclamp_away: yep, me too |
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cait |
or that yep |
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khall |
yeah, I'm of that mind |
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khall |
al, Koha::Queue:Messages and Koha::Queue::Message perhaps? |
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khall |
nah, that makes no sense |
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khall |
how about just Koha::Messages and Koha::Message |
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marcelr |
QueuedMessage(s)++ |
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cait |
if i ask now why it is message and not notice i will be in trouble right? :) |
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marcelr |
sure |
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* cait |
doesn't ask |
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cait |
just wondering, because there is also a messages table |
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khall |
cait: good point, if we always call them notices in the interface, we should move to notices in the code ; ) |
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cait |
an they are not related, it's the notes from patron account that go in there |
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khall |
but if they aren't all notices, we should just say a notices is a type of message |
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Joubu |
Koha::Message sounds too generic |
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cait |
yeah, maybe fix when we get there |
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cait |
Koha::Patron::Message? |
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Joubu |
I have 20 patches on top of it, but should be easy to rename |
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cait |
notes would make more sense probably, as it's more of apassive thing that just displays |
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Joubu |
so yes, if you want me to rename it, it's better now than later: ) |
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cait |
you already did the messsages one too? |
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cait |
sorry if i confused things by bringing that one up |
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Joubu |
Koha::Patron::Message already exists, yet |
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khall |
cait: yeah I like Koha::Patron::Message(s) |
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cait |
ah ok |
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khall |
dang ; ) |
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cait |
sorry! |
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Joubu |
So is QueuedNotice[s] the conclusion? |
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khall |
Joubu: that sounds good, I don't even think you need the Queued part, could just be Koha::Patron::Notice(s) |
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marcelr |
sounds not bad |
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cait |
hm |
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marcelr |
i would leave queue |
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cait |
i wouldn't put it in patron |
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cait |
because things in there that don't go to the patrons |
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marcelr |
cait: |
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khall |
ok, then I say QueuedNotice(s) sounds good |
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cait |
claims, list invites, the overdus email to the library etc |
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marcelr |
wrong window |
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khall |
or just Koha::Notice(s) |
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cait |
how would we name the one for editing/managing notices then? |
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cait |
ah at the moment that's letters i think |
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cait |
oh all the confusion in terminology |
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khall |
cait: yep, it's complicated ; ) |
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Joubu |
but we will have Koha::Letter and Koha::Notice |
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khall |
I would call those notice templates |
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marcelr |
notice template ++ |
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Joubu |
(what cait was saying..) |
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cait |
it should not be so hard to get this sorted... but it is |
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Joubu |
yes to me Koha::Letter is a template |
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Joubu |
bug 17958 |
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cait |
would letter in english also refer to email? |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=17958 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Needs Signoff , Add the Koha::Letter[s] packages |
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Joubu |
bug 17959 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=17959 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, ASSIGNED , Add the Koha::MessageQueue[s] packages |
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cait |
or text message? makes me more think of mail |
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Joubu |
Koha::Notice::Template and Koha::Notice::Message ? |
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Joubu |
or just Koha::Template and Koha::Notice |
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cait |
hm thinking |
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cait |
we also have gui templates and marc modification templates |
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cait |
might be confusing |
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Joubu |
yes and the interface uses "notices" for both "letters" and "messages" |
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Joubu |
that why I suggested to group them into the same namespace with Koha::Notice::Template and Koha::Notice::Message |
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cait |
sorry, what would message be then? |
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Joubu |
an entry of message_queue |
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cait |
i kind of get confused by message |
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cait |
kidclamp_away: khall - native speakers? |
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cait |
bbiab |
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khall |
cait: notice letter and message are all basically synonyms with slightly different connotations |
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cait |
i like notice::template or similar tho |
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kidclamp_away |
hmm...Koha::Notice::Message makes sense to me, and Koha::Notice::Template |
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khall |
Joubu: I think you are on the right track with Koha::Notice::Template/Message |
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kidclamp_away |
Joubu++ |
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kidclamp_away |
now I am really away for a bit |
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Joubu |
ok thanks, I will go first with that |
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Joubu |
and we will rename things later if needed |
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Joubu |
bug 17958 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=17958 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Needs Signoff , Add the Koha::Notice::Template[s] packages (letter table) |
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Joubu |
bug 17959 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=17959 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, ASSIGNED , Add the Koha::Notice::Message[s] packages (message_queue table) |
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hi #koha |
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Joubu++ |
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tcohen1 |
hi cait |
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cait |
hi tcohen :) |
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tcohen |
cait++ # new point release! |
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druthb |
cait++ # wait, we need *reasons* now? |
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cait |
yes, you do |
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druthb |
cait++ # for imposing "reason" on the Karma system. |
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tcohen |
druthb: she's a busy girl now, and she found the time to be rmaint! |
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druthb |
Indeed, tcohen; she's been a busy girl as long as I've known her. :) |
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tcohen |
exactly |
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tcohen |
:-D |
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tcohen |
</south_park_quote> |
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magnuse |
cait++ for all the reasons |
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magnuse |
@wunder enbo |
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huginn |
magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 3.0°C (1:50 PM CET on January 23, 2017). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 81%. Dew Point: 0.0°C. Windchill: -1.0°C. Pressure: 29.68 in 1005 hPa (Rising). |
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oleonard |
@wunder 45701 |
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huginn |
oleonard: The current temperature in Longview Hts, Athens, Ohio is 10.3°C (8:21 AM EST on January 23, 2017). Conditions: Light Rain. Humidity: 86%. Dew Point: 8.0°C. Pressure: 29.40 in 996 hPa (Steady). |
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oleonard |
Yay, warmer than Norway for once. |
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druthb |
@wunder 77098 |
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huginn |
druthb: The current temperature in Montrose, Houston, Texas is 10.6°C (7:16 AM CST on January 23, 2017). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 63%. Dew Point: 4.0°C. Pressure: 29.94 in 1014 hPa (Rising). |
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druthb |
Chilly morning, here. |
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druthb |
#LifeInTheTropics |
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LibraryClaire |
hi oleonard |
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wahanui |
hi oleopard |
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LibraryClaire |
@wunder konstanz |
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huginn |
LibraryClaire: The current temperature in Mainaustraße, Konstanz, Germany is -1.4°C (2:22 PM CET on January 23, 2017). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 77%. Dew Point: -5.0°C. Windchill: -1.0°C. Pressure: 30.18 in 1022 hPa (Steady). |
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oleonard |
Hi LibraryClaire and everyone |
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LibraryClaire |
I think huginn underestimates. I think it's colder than that! |
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oleonard |
huginn please recalibrate your sensors. |
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huginn |
oleonard: downloading the Perl source |
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LibraryClaire |
:D |
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oleonard |
huginn how many fingers am I holding up? |
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huginn |
oleonard: I'll give you the answer just as soon as RDA is ready |
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LibraryClaire |
huginn is sassy |
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huginn |
LibraryClaire: I've exhausted my database of quotes |
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oleonard |
huginn you need to compile more quotes |
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huginn |
oleonard: I'll give you the answer just as soon as RDA is ready |
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magnuse |
oleonard, druthb: forecast says we will have +9C on thursday :-) |
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magnuse |
@quote random |
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huginn |
magnuse: Quote #287: "Pianohacker: the only sounds I've ever heard come out of Auth.pm are a nasty, wet splorch" (added by wizzyrea at 11:48 PM, January 09, 2014) |
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druthb |
brrrrrrr |
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oleonard |
It's forecast to be 17C here on Wednesday, then a high of 7 the next day. |
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LibraryClaire |
oh to run in the warm... |
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magnuse |
at least the Lofoten islands just had some nice sun on them |
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oleonard |
FTFY xkcd: http://zivotdesign.com/p/#0/14851790081399 |
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Hello #koha |
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hi edveal |
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good morning #koha |
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good morning rsantellan |
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hi edveal |
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cait: On Bug 5784 you suggest dividing the side navigation into Administration and Acquisitions sections. Can you explain what you mean? |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5784 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, In Discussion , link to acq from budgets & funds |
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oleonard |
cait: Do you mean changing acquisitions-menu.inc? |
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magnuse |
hm bug 17940 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=17940 major, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , Holds not going to waiting state after having been transferred |
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cait |
oleonard: yep |
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cait |
not sure what is best, but i think breadcrumbs won't work |
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oleonard |
I agree |
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eythian |
@wunder ams |
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huginn |
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cait |
maybe it would be nice to have a design similar to tools? |
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cait |
hm not sure about that either :) |
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oleonard |
Actually I think that might work |
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* oleonard |
will think about it |
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oleonard |
cait: http://zivotdesign.com/p/#1/14851860069021 |
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LibraryClaire |
oleonard++ |
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cait |
oleonard: nice! |
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reiveune |
bye |
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oleonard |
Only 28 more bugs to 18000 |
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cait |
scary |
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cait |
i still remember times when bugs had 4 digits... |
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oleonard |
I still don't understand the 2nd and 3rd parts of this comment. https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]g.cgi?id=17942#c2 |
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huginn |
Bug 17942: enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, In Discussion , Update style of the web installer with Bootstrap 3 |
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CrispyBran |
Anyone available to confirm a bug for me? |
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tmcmahon |
I'm here CrispyBran, but I'm not sure what kind of help I'd be. What's the bug? |
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CrispyBran |
I'm using a ByWater sandbox with the tiny dataset and on MASTER. I can't seem to limit the number of holds on an item type in the circ rules. |
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CrispyBran |
I can limit them with the maxreserves setting, but it does want to work in the rules. |
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CrispyBran |
doesn't work in the rules. |
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CrispyBran |
:) |
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CrispyBran |
It appears that it will block if I set the limit to 0, but if I set it to 1, it lets me place more than one hold. |
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tmcmahon |
I went over my hold level without any warnings too. |
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CrispyBran |
Hmmm...seems something is broken. |
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CrispyBran |
I appreciate you trying. Thanks for confirming. |
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tmcmahon |
Have you searched the bugs yet? |
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CrispyBran |
I did an initial seach, but didn't see anything. |
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tmcmahon |
Bugzilla says I have an open bug assigned to me. Does anyone know if that means I have to be the one to close it? It's already been pushed to master. |
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rangi |
has it been pushed to a stable release? |
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rangi |
if not, you can mark it resolved fixed |
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tmcmahon |
My first patch. Don't know the proper procedures. |
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rangi |
normally the release managers/maintainers do it, but i's fine to do it yourself |
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rangi |
if it has been released (ie pushed to master before november 22, or to a stable branch that has been released) you can mark it closed |
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rangi |
does that make sense? |
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tmcmahon |
Yes. I just didn't want to mess with things if it was meant for someone higher up on the dev chain. |
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rangi |
nope all good |
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tmcmahon |
It's in 16.11.02 |
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tmcmahon |
Status says "Pushed to Stable" |
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CrispyBran |
tmcmahon, I filed the bug at https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]_bug.cgi?id=17978. Feel free to make note that you have confirmed this issue. |
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huginn |
Bug 17978: major, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , Circ rules will not limit holds |
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rangi |
that can be closed then if you like |