Time Nick Message 23:57 rangi that can be closed then if you like 23:57 huginn 04Bug 17978: major, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , Circ rules will not limit holds 23:57 CrispyBran tmcmahon, I filed the bug at https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=17978. Feel free to make note that you have confirmed this issue. 23:56 tmcmahon Status says "Pushed to Stable" 23:54 tmcmahon It's in 16.11.02 23:54 rangi nope all good 23:53 tmcmahon Yes. I just didn't want to mess with things if it was meant for someone higher up on the dev chain. 23:52 rangi does that make sense? 23:52 rangi if it has been released (ie pushed to master before november 22, or to a stable branch that has been released) you can mark it closed 23:51 rangi normally the release managers/maintainers do it, but i's fine to do it yourself 23:51 tmcmahon My first patch. Don't know the proper procedures. 23:51 rangi if not, you can mark it resolved fixed 23:51 rangi has it been pushed to a stable release? 23:50 tmcmahon Bugzilla says I have an open bug assigned to me. Does anyone know if that means I have to be the one to close it? It's already been pushed to master. 23:49 CrispyBran I did an initial seach, but didn't see anything. 23:48 tmcmahon Have you searched the bugs yet? 23:48 CrispyBran I appreciate you trying. Thanks for confirming. 23:48 CrispyBran Hmmm...seems something is broken. 23:47 tmcmahon I went over my hold level without any warnings too. 23:47 CrispyBran It appears that it will block if I set the limit to 0, but if I set it to 1, it lets me place more than one hold. 23:41 CrispyBran :) 23:41 CrispyBran doesn't work in the rules. 23:40 CrispyBran I can limit them with the maxreserves setting, but it does want to work in the rules. 23:40 CrispyBran I'm using a ByWater sandbox with the tiny dataset and on MASTER. I can't seem to limit the number of holds on an item type in the circ rules. 23:38 tmcmahon I'm here CrispyBran, but I'm not sure what kind of help I'd be. What's the bug? 23:33 CrispyBran Anyone available to confirm a bug for me? 16:33 huginn 04Bug 17942: enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, In Discussion , Update style of the web installer with Bootstrap 3 16:33 oleonard I still don't understand the 2nd and 3rd parts of this comment. https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=17942#c2 16:32 cait i still remember times when bugs had 4 digits... 16:31 cait scary 16:18 oleonard Only 28 more bugs to 18000 16:00 reiveune bye 15:50 cait oleonard: nice! 15:41 LibraryClaire oleonard++ 15:40 oleonard cait: http://zivotdesign.com/p/#1/14851860069021 15:25 * oleonard will think about it 15:25 oleonard Actually I think that might work 15:22 cait hm not sure about that either :) 15:22 cait maybe it would be nice to have a design similar to tools? 15:22 huginn eythian: The current temperature in Schiphol, Badhoevedorp, Netherlands is 2.8°C (4:20 PM CET on January 23, 2017). Conditions: Rain. Humidity: 92%. Dew Point: 2.0°C. Windchill: 3.0°C. Pressure: 30.30 in 1026 hPa (Falling). 15:22 eythian @wunder ams 15:21 oleonard I agree 15:21 cait not sure what is best, but i think breadcrumbs won't work 15:21 cait oleonard: yep 15:19 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=17940 major, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , Holds not going to waiting state after having been transferred 15:19 magnuse hm bug 17940 15:05 oleonard cait: Do you mean changing acquisitions-menu.inc? 15:04 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5784 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, In Discussion , link to acq from budgets & funds 15:04 oleonard cait: On Bug 5784 you suggest dividing the side navigation into Administration and Acquisitions sections. Can you explain what you mean? 14:57 cait hi edveal 14:56 cait good morning rsantellan 14:51 rsantellan good morning #koha 13:59 LibraryClaire hi edveal 13:56 edveal Hello #koha 13:43 oleonard FTFY xkcd: http://zivotdesign.com/p/#0/14851790081399 13:38 magnuse at least the Lofoten islands just had some nice sun on them 13:35 LibraryClaire oh to run in the warm... 13:34 oleonard It's forecast to be 17C here on Wednesday, then a high of 7 the next day. 13:33 druthb brrrrrrr 13:32 huginn magnuse: Quote #287: "Pianohacker: the only sounds I've ever heard come out of Auth.pm are a nasty, wet splorch" (added by wizzyrea at 11:48 PM, January 09, 2014) 13:32 magnuse @quote random 13:32 magnuse oleonard, druthb: forecast says we will have +9C on thursday :-) 13:32 huginn oleonard: I'll give you the answer just as soon as RDA is ready 13:32 oleonard huginn you need to compile more quotes 13:31 huginn LibraryClaire: I've exhausted my database of quotes 13:31 LibraryClaire huginn is sassy 13:31 huginn oleonard: I'll give you the answer just as soon as RDA is ready 13:31 oleonard huginn how many fingers am I holding up? 13:31 LibraryClaire :D 13:31 huginn oleonard: downloading the Perl source 13:31 oleonard huginn please recalibrate your sensors. 13:30 LibraryClaire I think huginn underestimates. I think it's colder than that! 13:30 oleonard Hi LibraryClaire and everyone 13:29 huginn LibraryClaire: The current temperature in Mainaustraße, Konstanz, Germany is -1.4°C (2:22 PM CET on January 23, 2017). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 77%. Dew Point: -5.0°C. Windchill: -1.0°C. Pressure: 30.18 in 1022 hPa (Steady). 13:29 LibraryClaire @wunder konstanz 13:29 wahanui hi oleopard 13:29 LibraryClaire hi oleonard 13:22 druthb #LifeInTheTropics 13:22 druthb Chilly morning, here. 13:22 huginn druthb: The current temperature in Montrose, Houston, Texas is 10.6°C (7:16 AM CST on January 23, 2017). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 63%. Dew Point: 4.0°C. Pressure: 29.94 in 1014 hPa (Rising). 13:22 druthb @wunder 77098 13:22 oleonard Yay, warmer than Norway for once. 13:21 huginn oleonard: The current temperature in Longview Hts, Athens, Ohio is 10.3°C (8:21 AM EST on January 23, 2017). Conditions: Light Rain. Humidity: 86%. Dew Point: 8.0°C. Pressure: 29.40 in 996 hPa (Steady). 13:21 oleonard @wunder 45701 13:16 huginn magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 3.0°C (1:50 PM CET on January 23, 2017). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 81%. Dew Point: 0.0°C. Windchill: -1.0°C. Pressure: 29.68 in 1005 hPa (Rising). 13:16 magnuse @wunder enbo 13:16 magnuse cait++ for all the reasons 13:12 * cait runs off 13:12 tcohen </south_park_quote> 13:11 tcohen :-D 13:11 tcohen exactly 13:10 druthb Indeed, tcohen; she's been a busy girl as long as I've known her. :) 13:10 tcohen druthb: she's a busy girl now, and she found the time to be rmaint! 13:10 druthb cait++ # for imposing "reason" on the Karma system. 13:09 cait yes, you do 13:09 druthb cait++ # wait, we need *reasons* now? 13:08 tcohen cait++ # new point release! 13:07 cait hi tcohen :) 13:07 tcohen1 hi cait 12:56 cait Joubu++ 12:47 LibraryClaire hi #koha 12:04 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=17959 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, ASSIGNED , Add the Koha::Notice::Message[s] packages (message_queue table) 12:04 Joubu bug 17959 12:04 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=17958 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Needs Signoff , Add the Koha::Notice::Template[s] packages (letter table) 12:04 Joubu bug 17958 12:02 Joubu and we will rename things later if needed 12:02 Joubu ok thanks, I will go first with that 12:01 kidclamp_away now I am really away for a bit 12:01 kidclamp_away Joubu++ 12:01 khall Joubu: I think you are on the right track with Koha::Notice::Template/Message 12:01 kidclamp_away hmm...Koha::Notice::Message makes sense to me, and Koha::Notice::Template 12:00 cait i like notice::template or similar tho 12:00 khall cait: notice letter and message are all basically synonyms with slightly different connotations 12:00 cait bbiab 11:59 cait kidclamp_away: khall - native speakers? 11:59 cait i kind of get confused by message 11:57 Joubu an entry of message_queue 11:57 cait sorry, what would message be then? 11:57 Joubu that why I suggested to group them into the same namespace with Koha::Notice::Template and Koha::Notice::Message 11:56 Joubu yes and the interface uses "notices" for both "letters" and "messages" 11:56 cait might be confusing 11:55 cait we also have gui templates and marc modification templates 11:55 cait hm thinking 11:55 Joubu or just Koha::Template and Koha::Notice 11:54 Joubu Koha::Notice::Template and Koha::Notice::Message ? 11:54 cait or text message? makes me more think of mail 11:54 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=17959 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, ASSIGNED , Add the Koha::MessageQueue[s] packages 11:54 Joubu bug 17959 11:54 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=17958 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Needs Signoff , Add the Koha::Letter[s] packages 11:54 cait would letter in english also refer to email? 11:54 Joubu bug 17958 11:53 Joubu yes to me Koha::Letter is a template 11:53 cait it should not be so hard to get this sorted... but it is 11:53 Joubu (what cait was saying..) 11:53 marcelr notice template ++ 11:53 khall I would call those notice templates 11:53 Joubu but we will have Koha::Letter and Koha::Notice 11:53 khall cait: yep, it's complicated ; ) 11:52 cait oh all the confusion in terminology 11:52 cait ah at the moment that's letters i think 11:52 cait how would we name the one for editing/managing notices then? 11:52 khall or just Koha::Notice(s) 11:52 marcelr wrong window 11:52 cait claims, list invites, the overdus email to the library etc 11:51 khall ok, then I say QueuedNotice(s) sounds good 11:51 marcelr cait: 11:51 cait because things in there that don't go to the patrons 11:51 cait i wouldn't put it in patron 11:51 marcelr i would leave queue 11:51 cait hm 11:51 marcelr sounds not bad 11:51 khall Joubu: that sounds good, I don't even think you need the Queued part, could just be Koha::Patron::Notice(s) 11:50 Joubu So is QueuedNotice[s] the conclusion? 11:49 cait sorry! 11:49 khall dang ; ) 11:49 cait ah ok 11:49 khall cait: yeah I like Koha::Patron::Message(s) 11:48 Joubu Koha::Patron::Message already exists, yet 11:48 cait sorry if i confused things by bringing that one up 11:48 cait you already did the messsages one too? 11:48 Joubu so yes, if you want me to rename it, it's better now than later: ) 11:48 cait notes would make more sense probably, as it's more of apassive thing that just displays 11:48 Joubu I have 20 patches on top of it, but should be easy to rename 11:47 cait Koha::Patron::Message? 11:47 cait yeah, maybe fix when we get there 11:47 Joubu Koha::Message sounds too generic 11:47 khall but if they aren't all notices, we should just say a notices is a type of message 11:47 cait an they are not related, it's the notes from patron account that go in there 11:47 khall cait: good point, if we always call them notices in the interface, we should move to notices in the code ; ) 11:47 cait just wondering, because there is also a messages table 11:46 * cait doesn't ask 11:46 marcelr sure 11:46 cait if i ask now why it is message and not notice i will be in trouble right? :) 11:46 marcelr QueuedMessage(s)++ 11:46 khall how about just Koha::Messages and Koha::Message 11:46 khall nah, that makes no sense 11:45 khall al, Koha::Queue:Messages and Koha::Queue::Message perhaps? 11:45 khall yeah, I'm of that mind 11:45 cait or that yep 11:45 Joubu kidclamp_away: yep, me too 11:45 kidclamp_away I like QueuedMessage(s) 11:45 cait Koha:MessageQueueEntries? 11:45 marcelr Joubu: Koha::MessagesQueue is confusing 11:45 Joubu but I do not manage to decide, and maybe you will have a third suggestion :) 11:44 Joubu in mind 11:44 Joubu or Koha::QueuedMessage and Koha::QueuedMessages 11:44 * cait waves 11:44 Joubu so I have Koha::MessageQueue and Koha::MessagesQueue 11:44 Joubu as we do not have several queues 11:44 Joubu Koha::MessageQueue and Koha::MessageQueues do not make sense 11:44 Joubu but 11:44 Joubu I am create a Koha::Object[s] based class for the message_queue table 11:44 khall sure! 11:43 Joubu I have a wording question :) 11:43 khall mornin! 11:43 Joubu hi! 11:43 khall what's up? 11:43 Joubu khall: around? 11:19 marcelr hi tcohen 11:19 tcohen morning 10:38 marcelr cait: just halfway 10:07 cait marcelr++ - very brave takingon all those authority bugs :) 10:04 cait colder than norway *grump* 10:04 huginn cait: The current temperature in Mainaustraße, Konstanz, Germany is -2.8°C (10:59 AM CET on January 23, 2017). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 82%. Dew Point: -5.0°C. Windchill: -3.0°C. Pressure: 30.24 in 1024 hPa (Steady). 10:04 cait @wunder Konstanz 10:04 cait just beat me to answer on the bug 10:04 cait Joubu++ 09:54 magnuse hiya eythian 09:52 eythian also, hi 09:52 huginn eythian: The current temperature in Amsterdam, Netherlands is 0.0°C (10:25 AM CET on January 23, 2017). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 93%. Dew Point: -1.0°C. Pressure: 30.33 in 1027 hPa (Steady). 09:52 eythian @wunder ams 09:34 magnuse forecast says we will have +10 on wednesday or thursday 09:33 huginn magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 4.0°C (10:20 AM CET on January 23, 2017). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 93%. Dew Point: 3.0°C. Windchill: 1.0°C. Pressure: 29.56 in 1001 hPa (Steady). 09:33 magnuse @wunder enbo 09:33 * magnuse waves 08:57 cait hi marcelr 08:56 marcelr hi cait 08:55 cait good morning #koha 08:14 gaetan_B hello 07:58 marcelr hi #koha 07:45 wahanui privet, reiveune 07:45 reiveune hello 07:41 fridolin hie 07:32 alex_a bonjour 07:06 LibraryClaire morning #koha 06:59 BobB I can't read much of that :) 06:59 BobB yep 06:58 magnuse koha is only used internally 06:57 magnuse everything the borrowers see they made themselves 06:57 magnuse BobB: you can see their stuff here: https://sok.deichman.no/search?query=hamsun 06:56 magnuse :-) 06:56 BobB no noise is good noise :) 06:56 magnuse i think they are doing ok, i have not heard a whole lot from them 06:55 magnuse yeah, OPL went live while we were in marseille last time 06:55 magnuse i think they have customers using it already 06:55 magnuse yeah, i'd also say ill is the last big missing piece 06:53 BobB magnuse how is Oslo PL going? they went live I think? 06:52 BobB ashimema +1 06:52 BobB very cool 06:51 BobB it almost fills in the last big gap in koha as far as traditional LMSs go 06:50 BobB I guess ptfs havae a client they are doing it for? 06:50 BobB I'd reckon its a big piece of work 06:49 BobB we have a prospective client who's interested 06:49 magnuse atheia demoed it in marseille, and it looked pretty neat 06:48 magnuse the goal has been to create a generic ill module that can be configured to support different workflows 06:48 BobB very cool 06:47 magnuse but i think they are getting close to submitting it 06:47 magnuse atheia or ashimema should be able to give you the details 06:47 BobB yay! 06:47 magnuse ptfse have been working on the ill module 06:47 magnuse yay! 06:46 * BobB waves from down under 06:46 BobB hi magnuse 06:46 * magnuse waves to BobB and #koha 01:35 martinmorris Hey, I’ve got a question about installing koha on ubuntu where the www and mysql are on different servers, the documentation isn’t entirely clear 01:11 huginn cait: The current temperature in Mainaustraße, Konstanz, Germany is -2.6°C (2:07 AM CET on January 23, 2017). Conditions: Unknown. Humidity: 84%. Dew Point: -5.0°C. Windchill: -3.0°C. Pressure: 30.24 in 1024 hPa (Steady). 01:11 cait @wunder Konstanz 01:11 cait have a nice day :) 01:11 BobB ok, leave you to it :) 01:11 cait yep - def should be sleeping :) 01:11 BobB it must be the middle of the night where you are cait? :) 01:10 BobB yep, and I'll check with magnuse when he comes into the channel 01:10 cait g 01:10 cait probably best to wait fo ran answer on the bug 01:09 cait hm 01:07 cait did you see the URL in the bug? https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/ILL_Module 01:07 BobB hi cait 01:06 cait I think magnuse was testing it 01:06 cait hm definietely was after 2015 01:03 BobB does anyone know if there is work gonig on? 01:03 BobB but hasn't been updated since march 2015 01:02 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7317 new feature, P5 - low, ---, alex.sassmannshausen, NEW , Add an Interlibrary Loan Module to Circulation and OPAC 01:02 BobB bug 7317 is about ILL 01:02 BobB hi folks