IRC log for #koha, 2016-12-27

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01:57 rangi well that was pleasant
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05:34 ronniie hi all
05:35 ronniie gudmorining
05:35 ronniie im doing koha migration
05:36 ronniie i am looking for the marc21 tag to specify whther the book is reference or not
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05:38 ronniie hi
05:38 ronniie anyone ???
05:38 wahanui anyone is free to organize one at any time :-)
05:38 ronniie !!
05:41 ronniie tag for ref?
05:42 ronniie anyone please
05:42 wahanui well, anyone is free to organize one at any time :-)
05:45 ronniie you mean no tag for this?
05:50 cait ronniie: wahanui is a bot
05:50 cait :)
05:50 cait he doesn't always make sense
05:52 ronniie i will better join someother channel
05:52 ronniie :(
05:56 ronniie i think cait will help
05:56 ronniie he probably is not a bot :)
05:56 cait she is not a bot no :)
05:56 cait but have to be afk for a bit
05:57 cait what do you have a problem with? maybe i can help out later
05:58 ronniie i am migrating data from a spreadsheet to koha
06:00 ronniie the spreadsheet data has a column to specify whether book is reference or not
06:00 ronniie i am using a tool marcedit to migrate
06:00 ronniie it asks to specify the marc12 tag of each column
06:01 ronniie i found out most
06:02 ronniie Did not get the exact marc21 tag specifying whether the book is reference or otherwise
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06:24 cait ronniie: you miht want to map this to an itemtype in koha that is set up as 'not for loan'
06:24 cait this would go into 952$y then
06:25 ronniie thankyou cait
06:36 cait ronniie: 942$c is on the record level the defualt item type, that's good to do, but you will also need items for circulation - items are defined in 952
06:38 ronniie thanks good nice cait....
06:56 rangi s
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07:14 fridolin hie tehere
07:20 ronniie what's the marc21 Tag to set for missing pages in the book, pals.
07:27 cait i think you want to look for damaged in items
07:29 cait ronniie: http://manual.koha-community.o[…]html#itemcatguide this might help
07:30 cait @wunder Konstanz
07:30 huginn cait: The current temperature in Mainaustraße, Konstanz, Germany is 1.6°C (8:29 AM CET on December 27, 2016). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 88%. Dew Point: -0.0°C. Windchill: 2.0°C. Pressure: 30.71 in 1040 hPa (Steady).
07:34 Francesca @wunder wlg
07:34 huginn Francesca: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 18.0°C (8:00 PM NZDT on December 27, 2016). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 73%. Dew Point: 13.0°C. Pressure: 29.77 in 1008 hPa (Steady).
07:43 eythian @wunder Jordaan, ams
07:43 huginn eythian: The current temperature in Ten Kateplein, Amsterdam, Netherlands is 8.5°C (8:29 AM CET on December 27, 2016). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 78%. Dew Point: 5.0°C. Windchill: 8.0°C. Pressure: 30.66 in 1038 hPa (Steady).
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08:00 pablito Hi Everyone
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08:00 pablito I need some help with zebra-indexer
08:00 alex_a bonjour
08:00 wahanui que tal, alex_a
08:02 pablito It seems every week, my zebra-indexer shuts down by itself, which prevents any result on catalog search in opac
08:03 Joubu @later tell khall I have written all of these patches. I am not sure I am the right guy to push them
08:03 huginn Joubu: The operation succeeded.
08:05 pablito Can someone help with this issue?
08:08 Joubu pablito: Koha version? Debian, Ubuntu? which versions? do you have an error in the logs?
08:09 pablito I am running the latest Koha 16.11.01 on Debian 8
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08:12 Joubu pablito: do you use anacron?
08:12 * cait waves
08:12 cait hi Joubu - hope you had nice holidays?
08:13 pablito Joubu: I believe so
08:13 Joubu cait: short but good yes :) What about yours?
08:13 cait same :)
08:14 Joubu pablito: have a look at this thread:[…]ember/046892.html
08:14 pablito Joubu: this is the zebra-error.log
08:14 Joubu it's a known issue
08:17 pablito Joubu: ok thanks.  So of I stop anacron would it affect anything else in koha?
08:21 Joubu If anacron is in used because you explicitely used it. It's not part of the Koha install process to setup anacron
08:25 pablito Ok great! Thanks!
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08:43 * magnuse waves
08:44 cait hi magnuse :)
09:28 magnuse hey cait!
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10:10 done hi
10:11 done need help about marc21 tag info
10:11 done which is the marc21 tag for volume information
10:12 cait done: in the title? or for like a serial issue in the item?
10:16 done ive got spreadsheet with such information and have a column with volume have data mostly 0.and a few 1, 2, 13, 16
10:16 done the data is about books
10:16 cait you usually have a bilbiographic record with one or many items
10:17 cait for serials, for example, you often have the data for the serial, but the information about volume/issue is only visible in the items
10:17 cait if this is volum2 or something of a book, 245$n might be what you are looking for
10:17 cait @marc 245n
10:17 huginn cait: unknown tag 245n
10:17 cait hm
10:17 done presently it is for the books
10:17 cait @marc 245 n
10:17 huginn cait: Number of part/section of a work  (Repeatable)
10:20 done got it, yes
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10:49 done hi
10:49 wahanui bidet, done
10:50 done i've got a group of related information in separate columns . imprint,Publishername,pulisher place,pubyear and distributer name
10:51 done in the imprint column details about press is given, for some records only eg. Academic Press
10:52 done can u help me handle the info so that correct tags are assigned to each
10:53 done i have a confusion because imprint is a common term regarding all of publisher,distributer .
10:55 cait hm sorry, i am not sure what the differences are between thos
10:55 cait e
10:56 done ok noprobs
11:19 eythian done: I'd really recommend talking to the cataloguers who are going to be using it, if possible. They'll have the best idea of the semantics of the information.
11:20 done okay thanx
11:21 eythian that and far too long staring at the MARC21 documentation webpages :)
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11:32 gaetan_B hello
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12:15 rsantellan good morning #koha
12:22 * magnuse waves again
12:30 * cait waves
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12:38 tcohen morning
12:52 magnuse hiya tcohen
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13:08 eythian <-- interesting talks
13:08 eythian[…]n/schedule/0.html <-- actual schedule for today
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14:32 kivilahtio Hi there! I am looking into accelerating our Koha with caching and HTTP/2
14:32 kivilahtio Is there something I can do to help?
14:33 kivilahtio I am looking at Bug 12904 and https://wiki.koha-community.or[…]Koha_Tuning_Guide
14:33 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=12904 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Signed Off , Force browser to load new javascript files after upgrade
14:33 kivilahtio 12904 looks ok. So I can do sign-offs for that.
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14:42 Joubu Did you test it in production?
14:42 Joubu kivilahtio: Did you test it in production?
14:42 kivilahtio Joubu, nope
14:42 kivilahtio Joubu: I am deploying Koha-master on Ubuntu16.04
14:43 kivilahtio Joubu: got that working quite easily
14:43 kivilahtio some trouble with differently named Debian packages
14:43 Joubu using MariaDB I guess?
14:43 kivilahtio Joubu: yes
14:43 kivilahtio Joubu: Also looking at Bug 15341
14:43 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=15341 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, In Discussion , Performance - Retrieve all sysprefs at once
14:43 Joubu you can add a signoff on 12904 if you tested it
14:43 kivilahtio Looks like you can squeeze out some hundreds of ms?
14:44 kivilahtio Joubu: ok. I will test that
14:44 Joubu just 22 comments :)
14:44 kivilahtio yeah
14:44 kivilahtio you should see the comments we are shooting here :)
14:44 kivilahtio luckily they are in Finnish :)
14:44 Joubu kivilahtio: the goal was to select * from sysprefs when a syspref is get
14:45 kivilahtio Joubu: good work with ElasticSearch and the L1+L2 caching system
14:45 Joubu and set all of the prefs in cache
14:45 kivilahtio Joubu: that makes perfect sense
14:45 Joubu instead of fetching 1 by 1 and setting the cache
14:45 kivilahtio Joubu: yes
14:46 kivilahtio Joubu: thanks for the heads-up. I'll dig into the code now :)
14:46 Joubu That could have terrible perf issues with old versions, because of memcached not affective for cli scripts
14:46 Joubu but now it should be ok
14:50 kivilahtio ok
14:50 * cait waves
14:50 kivilahtio cait:  hi there
14:50 wahanui hi, kivilahtio
14:50 * cait likes days like today - not a single new ticket :)
14:50 kivilahtio :)
14:51 kivilahtio when you think of it. Our employment is dependent on tickets
14:51 kivilahtio but I agree
14:51 kivilahtio it's noce to not be neck-deep all the time
14:51 cait i just spend like 3 hours closing tickets that were resolved by our recent updates
14:52 cait not running out of work here :)
14:52 kivilahtio I can believe that
14:52 kivilahtio me neither. There is always something down the corner
14:54 Joubu I can help if you want more bugs
14:54 Joubu cait: To which version did you update? 16.11?
14:55 cait not yet, 3.22
14:56 cait bringing all libraries on the same version again, then we can plan our next jump
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17:35 tcohen hi kivilahtio
17:35 tcohen Joubu and cait
17:35 kivilahtio tcohen: hi
17:35 wahanui bonjour, kivilahtio
17:35 kivilahtio tcohen: looking at Koha devbox and Ansible
17:36 kivilahtio tcohen: a lot has changed on how Koha should be installed
17:36 kivilahtio tcohen: catching up all the changes
17:38 kchris I am trying to set up a kohadevbox again too.
17:39 tcohen it is quite easy
17:39 kchris Does the kohaclone directory on the host need to be external to the kohadevbox directory for git?
17:39 tcohen it is easier that way, because you reuse it
17:39 tcohen instead of fetching it every time you create a devbox
17:40 kchris okay. I got a working instance of koha going with the kohadevbox.
17:41 kchris But now it like I can use the SYNC_REPO environment variable to expose the koha instance to my host environment/
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17:43 kivilahtio Where is the debian package for Ubuntu16.04 defined in the source code?
17:44 kivilahtio KohaDevBox says it supports Ubuntu16.04
17:45 tcohen we don't build xenial-specific packages
17:45 kivilahtio tcohen: ok, thanks
17:45 tcohen and the devbox pulls the packages from drojf's repo
17:45 tcohen look at vars/default.yml
17:46 kivilahtio tcohen: thanks
17:46 kivilahtio tcohen: I have my eye right there mister!
17:46 tcohen also, the xenial vagrant images
17:46 tcohen are not always that good
17:46 kivilahtio tcohen: I have to go, my wife is angry
17:46 kivilahtio tcohen: thank you for helping
17:47 tcohen the official ones lacked several stuff needed for even using in vagrant
17:47 tcohen any enhancements are welcome
17:47 kivilahtio ok
17:47 tcohen Joubu: so 16.11 is worse than 16.05 in terms of performance?
17:47 kivilahtio take care
18:04 tcohen hi kidclamp
18:04 kidclamp hi tcohen
18:05 tcohen #koha: would you say that swagger object definitions should be sorted the same way columns on the DB?
18:05 tcohen i'm writing a scriptfor scaffolding swagger stuff for new endpoints
18:06 tcohen adn have to deal with hash keys randomness
18:18 kchris tcohen: when I use ~/kohadevbox/kohaclone, I have a proper git repository
18:18 kchris But when kohaclone is outside of kohadevbox, I cannot use git.
18:18 tcohen kchris: I have SYNC_REPO="~/git/koha-src"
18:19 tcohen and it gets correctly mounted into
18:19 tcohen /home/vagrant/kohaclone
18:19 tcohen on my kohadevbox
18:19 kchris Okay. Thank you. I'll try that.
18:19 tcohen my kohadevbox source is in
18:19 tcohen ~/git/kohadevbox
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19:04 rangi morning
19:06 eythian evening
19:08 tcohen hi rangi, eythian
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19:09 rangi hey tcohen and eythian, hope you both had good christmasses
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19:10 tcohen thanks! same for you
19:12 eythian Quiet but good :) watched all of Indiana Jones.
19:13 rangi ohh fun
19:14 rangi eythian:[…]12734792030531584
19:16 gmcharlt rangi: I see you like books by Kerry Tyack
19:16 gmcharlt did I get the theme right? ;)
19:16 rangi heh
19:20 eythian rangi: looks like a good start
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21:10 kchris_afk kidclamp: are you there?
21:24 bag ah kidclamp took off for the day
21:24 bag hello all
21:25 cait hi bag :)
21:25 bag heya cait
21:29 rangi hi bag and cait
21:30 cait hi rangi
21:30 bag merry christmas rangi :)  hopefully you had a good beer :)  I had some ching-ching - it’s a really interesting sour beer you should try sometime
21:31 bag you like the sour beers?
21:32 rangi yup :)
21:33 rangi this one?[…]ching-ching/60156
21:33 bag yes exactly
21:34 rangi[…]er-weisse/1402360 <-- i had this one the other day, it is good too
21:35 bag yeah I would rate the ching-ching - as a 4 of 5 for beers - but for sour beers 5 of 5
21:36 rangi nice
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