Time Nick Message 01:57 rangi well that was pleasant 05:34 ronniie hi all 05:35 ronniie gudmorining 05:35 ronniie im doing koha migration 05:36 ronniie i am looking for the marc21 tag to specify whther the book is reference or not 05:38 ronniie hi 05:38 ronniie anyone ??? 05:38 wahanui anyone is free to organize one at any time :-) 05:38 ronniie !! 05:41 ronniie tag for ref? 05:42 ronniie anyone please 05:42 wahanui well, anyone is free to organize one at any time :-) 05:45 ronniie you mean no tag for this? 05:50 cait ronniie: wahanui is a bot 05:50 cait :) 05:50 cait he doesn't always make sense 05:52 ronniie i will better join someother channel 05:52 ronniie :( 05:56 ronniie i think cait will help 05:56 ronniie he probably is not a bot :) 05:56 cait she is not a bot no :) 05:56 cait but have to be afk for a bit 05:57 cait what do you have a problem with? maybe i can help out later 05:58 ronniie i am migrating data from a spreadsheet to koha 06:00 ronniie the spreadsheet data has a column to specify whether book is reference or not 06:00 ronniie i am using a tool marcedit to migrate 06:00 ronniie it asks to specify the marc12 tag of each column 06:01 ronniie i found out most 06:02 ronniie Did not get the exact marc21 tag specifying whether the book is reference or otherwise 06:24 cait ronniie: you miht want to map this to an itemtype in koha that is set up as 'not for loan' 06:24 cait this would go into 952$y then 06:25 ronniie thankyou cait 06:36 cait ronniie: 942$c is on the record level the defualt item type, that's good to do, but you will also need items for circulation - items are defined in 952 06:38 ronniie thanks good nice cait.... 06:56 rangi s 07:14 fridolin hie tehere 07:20 ronniie what's the marc21 Tag to set for missing pages in the book, pals. 07:27 cait i think you want to look for damaged in items 07:29 cait ronniie: http://manual.koha-community.org/16.11/en/catguides.html#itemcatguide this might help 07:30 cait @wunder Konstanz 07:30 huginn cait: The current temperature in Mainaustraße, Konstanz, Germany is 1.6°C (8:29 AM CET on December 27, 2016). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 88%. Dew Point: -0.0°C. Windchill: 2.0°C. Pressure: 30.71 in 1040 hPa (Steady). 07:34 Francesca @wunder wlg 07:34 huginn Francesca: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 18.0°C (8:00 PM NZDT on December 27, 2016). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 73%. Dew Point: 13.0°C. Pressure: 29.77 in 1008 hPa (Steady). 07:43 eythian @wunder Jordaan, ams 07:43 huginn eythian: The current temperature in Ten Kateplein, Amsterdam, Netherlands is 8.5°C (8:29 AM CET on December 27, 2016). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 78%. Dew Point: 5.0°C. Windchill: 8.0°C. Pressure: 30.66 in 1038 hPa (Steady). 08:00 pablito Hi Everyone 08:00 pablito I need some help with zebra-indexer 08:00 alex_a bonjour 08:00 wahanui que tal, alex_a 08:02 pablito It seems every week, my zebra-indexer shuts down by itself, which prevents any result on catalog search in opac 08:03 Joubu @later tell khall I have written all of these patches. I am not sure I am the right guy to push them 08:03 huginn Joubu: The operation succeeded. 08:05 pablito Can someone help with this issue? 08:08 Joubu pablito: Koha version? Debian, Ubuntu? which versions? do you have an error in the logs? 08:09 pablito I am running the latest Koha 16.11.01 on Debian 8 08:12 Joubu pablito: do you use anacron? 08:12 * cait waves 08:12 cait hi Joubu - hope you had nice holidays? 08:13 pablito Joubu: I believe so 08:13 Joubu cait: short but good yes :) What about yours? 08:13 cait same :) 08:14 Joubu pablito: have a look at this thread: https://lists.katipo.co.nz/pipermail/koha/2016-December/046892.html 08:14 pablito Joubu: this is the zebra-error.log https://justpaste.it/11s51 08:14 Joubu it's a known issue 08:17 pablito Joubu: ok thanks. So of I stop anacron would it affect anything else in koha? 08:21 Joubu If anacron is in used because you explicitely used it. It's not part of the Koha install process to setup anacron 08:25 pablito Ok great! Thanks! 08:43 * magnuse waves 08:44 cait hi magnuse :) 09:28 magnuse hey cait! 10:10 done hi 10:11 done need help about marc21 tag info 10:11 done which is the marc21 tag for volume information 10:12 cait done: in the title? or for like a serial issue in the item? 10:16 done ive got spreadsheet with such information and have a column with volume have data mostly 0.and a few 1, 2, 13, 16 10:16 done the data is about books 10:16 cait you usually have a bilbiographic record with one or many items 10:17 cait for serials, for example, you often have the data for the serial, but the information about volume/issue is only visible in the items 10:17 cait if this is volum2 or something of a book, 245$n might be what you are looking for 10:17 cait @marc 245n 10:17 huginn cait: unknown tag 245n 10:17 cait hm 10:17 done presently it is for the books 10:17 cait @marc 245 n 10:17 huginn cait: Number of part/section of a work (Repeatable) 10:20 done got it, yes 10:49 done hi 10:49 wahanui bidet, done 10:50 done i've got a group of related information in separate columns . imprint,Publishername,pulisher place,pubyear and distributer name 10:51 done in the imprint column details about press is given, for some records only eg. Academic Press 10:52 done can u help me handle the info so that correct tags are assigned to each 10:53 done i have a confusion because imprint is a common term regarding all of publisher,distributer . 10:55 cait hm sorry, i am not sure what the differences are between thos 10:55 cait e 10:56 done ok noprobs 11:19 eythian done: I'd really recommend talking to the cataloguers who are going to be using it, if possible. They'll have the best idea of the semantics of the information. 11:20 done okay thanx 11:21 eythian that and far too long staring at the loc.gov MARC21 documentation webpages :) 11:32 gaetan_B hello 12:15 rsantellan good morning #koha 12:22 * magnuse waves again 12:30 * cait waves 12:38 tcohen morning 12:52 magnuse hiya tcohen 13:08 eythian https://streaming.media.ccc.de/33c3 <-- interesting talks 13:08 eythian https://fahrplan.events.ccc.de/congress/2016/Fahrplan/schedule/0.html <-- actual schedule for today 14:32 kivilahtio Hi there! I am looking into accelerating our Koha with caching and HTTP/2 14:32 kivilahtio Is there something I can do to help? 14:33 kivilahtio I am looking at Bug 12904 and https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Koha_Tuning_Guide 14:33 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=12904 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Signed Off , Force browser to load new javascript files after upgrade 14:33 kivilahtio 12904 looks ok. So I can do sign-offs for that. 14:42 Joubu Did you test it in production? 14:42 Joubu kivilahtio: Did you test it in production? 14:42 kivilahtio Joubu, nope 14:42 kivilahtio Joubu: I am deploying Koha-master on Ubuntu16.04 14:43 kivilahtio Joubu: got that working quite easily 14:43 kivilahtio some trouble with differently named Debian packages 14:43 Joubu using MariaDB I guess? 14:43 kivilahtio Joubu: yes 14:43 kivilahtio Joubu: Also looking at Bug 15341 14:43 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=15341 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, In Discussion , Performance - Retrieve all sysprefs at once 14:43 Joubu you can add a signoff on 12904 if you tested it 14:43 kivilahtio Looks like you can squeeze out some hundreds of ms? 14:44 kivilahtio Joubu: ok. I will test that 14:44 Joubu just 22 comments :) 14:44 kivilahtio yeah 14:44 kivilahtio you should see the comments we are shooting here :) 14:44 kivilahtio luckily they are in Finnish :) 14:44 Joubu kivilahtio: the goal was to select * from sysprefs when a syspref is get 14:45 kivilahtio Joubu: good work with ElasticSearch and the L1+L2 caching system 14:45 Joubu and set all of the prefs in cache 14:45 kivilahtio Joubu: that makes perfect sense 14:45 Joubu instead of fetching 1 by 1 and setting the cache 14:45 kivilahtio Joubu: yes 14:46 kivilahtio Joubu: thanks for the heads-up. I'll dig into the code now :) 14:46 Joubu That could have terrible perf issues with old versions, because of memcached not affective for cli scripts 14:46 Joubu but now it should be ok 14:50 kivilahtio ok 14:50 * cait waves 14:50 kivilahtio cait: hi there 14:50 wahanui hi, kivilahtio 14:50 * cait likes days like today - not a single new ticket :) 14:50 kivilahtio :) 14:51 kivilahtio when you think of it. Our employment is dependent on tickets 14:51 kivilahtio but I agree 14:51 kivilahtio it's noce to not be neck-deep all the time 14:51 cait i just spend like 3 hours closing tickets that were resolved by our recent updates 14:52 cait not running out of work here :) 14:52 kivilahtio I can believe that 14:52 kivilahtio me neither. There is always something down the corner 14:54 Joubu I can help if you want more bugs 14:54 Joubu cait: To which version did you update? 16.11? 14:55 cait not yet, 3.22 14:56 cait bringing all libraries on the same version again, then we can plan our next jump 17:35 tcohen hi kivilahtio 17:35 tcohen Joubu and cait 17:35 kivilahtio tcohen: hi 17:35 wahanui bonjour, kivilahtio 17:35 kivilahtio tcohen: looking at Koha devbox and Ansible 17:36 kivilahtio tcohen: a lot has changed on how Koha should be installed 17:36 kivilahtio tcohen: catching up all the changes 17:38 kchris I am trying to set up a kohadevbox again too. 17:39 tcohen it is quite easy 17:39 kchris Does the kohaclone directory on the host need to be external to the kohadevbox directory for git? 17:39 tcohen it is easier that way, because you reuse it 17:39 tcohen instead of fetching it every time you create a devbox 17:40 kchris okay. I got a working instance of koha going with the kohadevbox. 17:41 kchris But now it like I can use the SYNC_REPO environment variable to expose the koha instance to my host environment/ 17:43 kivilahtio Where is the debian package for Ubuntu16.04 defined in the source code? 17:44 kivilahtio KohaDevBox says it supports Ubuntu16.04 17:45 tcohen we don't build xenial-specific packages 17:45 kivilahtio tcohen: ok, thanks 17:45 tcohen and the devbox pulls the packages from drojf's repo 17:45 tcohen look at vars/default.yml 17:46 kivilahtio tcohen: thanks 17:46 kivilahtio tcohen: I have my eye right there mister! 17:46 tcohen also, the xenial vagrant images 17:46 tcohen are not always that good 17:46 kivilahtio tcohen: I have to go, my wife is angry 17:46 kivilahtio tcohen: thank you for helping 17:47 tcohen the official ones lacked several stuff needed for even using in vagrant 17:47 tcohen any enhancements are welcome 17:47 kivilahtio ok 17:47 tcohen Joubu: so 16.11 is worse than 16.05 in terms of performance? 17:47 kivilahtio take care 18:04 tcohen hi kidclamp 18:04 kidclamp hi tcohen 18:05 tcohen #koha: would you say that swagger object definitions should be sorted the same way columns on the DB? 18:05 tcohen i'm writing a scriptfor scaffolding swagger stuff for new endpoints 18:06 tcohen adn have to deal with hash keys randomness 18:18 kchris tcohen: when I use ~/kohadevbox/kohaclone, I have a proper git repository 18:18 kchris But when kohaclone is outside of kohadevbox, I cannot use git. 18:18 tcohen kchris: I have SYNC_REPO="~/git/koha-src" 18:19 tcohen and it gets correctly mounted into 18:19 tcohen /home/vagrant/kohaclone 18:19 tcohen on my kohadevbox 18:19 kchris Okay. Thank you. I'll try that. 18:19 tcohen my kohadevbox source is in 18:19 tcohen ~/git/kohadevbox 19:04 rangi morning 19:06 eythian evening 19:08 tcohen hi rangi, eythian 19:09 rangi hey tcohen and eythian, hope you both had good christmasses 19:10 tcohen thanks! same for you 19:12 eythian Quiet but good :) watched all of Indiana Jones. 19:13 rangi ohh fun 19:14 rangi eythian: https://twitter.com/ranginui/status/812734792030531584 19:16 gmcharlt rangi: I see you like books by Kerry Tyack 19:16 gmcharlt did I get the theme right? ;) 19:16 rangi heh 19:20 eythian rangi: looks like a good start 21:10 kchris_afk kidclamp: are you there? 21:24 bag ah kidclamp took off for the day 21:24 bag hello all 21:25 cait hi bag :) 21:25 bag heya cait 21:29 rangi hi bag and cait 21:30 cait hi rangi 21:30 bag merry christmas rangi :) hopefully you had a good beer :) I had some ching-ching - it’s a really interesting sour beer you should try sometime 21:31 bag you like the sour beers? 21:32 rangi yup :) 21:33 rangi this one? https://untappd.com/b/bend-brewing-co-ching-ching/60156 21:33 bag yes exactly 21:34 rangi https://untappd.com/b/te-aro-brewing-company-rhubarb-berliner-weisse/1402360 <-- i had this one the other day, it is good too 21:35 bag yeah I would rate the ching-ching - as a 4 of 5 for beers - but for sour beers 5 of 5 21:36 rangi nice