IRC log for #koha, 2016-11-14

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07:02 alex_a hello
07:02 wahanui bidet, alex_a
07:02 alex_a bidet ?
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07:26 drojf morning #koha
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07:55 marcelr hi #koha
07:56 reiveune hello
08:00 drojf hi marcelr
08:00 marcelr :)
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08:03 drojf @wunder sxf
08:03 huginn drojf: The current temperature in Berlin Schoenefeld, Germany is -3.0°C (8:50 AM CET on November 14, 2016). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 86%. Dew Point: -5.0°C. Pressure: 30.60 in 1036 hPa (Rising).
08:04 * drojf considers hibernation
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08:26 smon good morning! i am still trying to figure out if there is a way to get bibliographic data out of koha, where there are no items attached.
08:41 drojf hi smon!
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08:42 gaetan_B hello
08:42 drojf smon: from your hostname i guess i just emailed you
08:42 drojf hi gaetan_B
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10:04 eythian @wunder jordaan, ams
10:04 huginn eythian: The current temperature in Geuzenbuurt Amsterdam, Amsterdam, Netherlands is 3.1°C (11:04 AM CET on November 14, 2016). Conditions: Light Drizzle. Humidity: 97%. Dew Point: 3.0°C. Windchill: 3.0°C. Pressure: 30.48 in 1032 hPa (Steady).
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10:56 * kidclamp waves
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11:30 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 15690: Hardcoded 16 is uncool <[…]ddb1760a7363a88f8> / Bug 15690: CardnumberLength should not be bigger than 16 <[…]fa8def626d1d2badb> / Bug 17607: Fix patron definition in Swagger <[…]tdiff;h=2975c0102
11:50 Joubu does someone understand bug 17606?
11:50 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=17606 critical, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , Email Issue
11:55 drojf Joubu: not a bug but a support request. i guess
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11:58 rsantellan good morning #koha
12:02 Joubu drojf: yes it's my undestanding as well
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12:13 drojf why do we put the auth id in auth records in 001?
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12:38 tcohen morning
12:38 drojf hi tcohen
12:39 drojf tcohen: did you get to try koha-common on xenial again?
12:39 tcohen not yet!
12:40 tcohen i've been distracted with making kohadevbox have everything set for ES 2.4
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13:06 rsantellan tcohen: what is the status of the ES searchs? is fully functionally?
13:07 tcohen is WIP
13:07 tcohen looking great so far
13:07 tcohen rough edges (definitely not production ready right now)
13:07 rsantellan good to know :)
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13:12 tcohen rsantellan: also, we are moving to ES 2.4 which has longer support
13:12 tcohen (up to 2018)
13:12 tcohen so I hope we count on you to debug/test
13:13 rsantellan count on me! I'm on search mode now :) trying to decipher zebra and wishing to move to ES!
13:24 drojf Joubu: i trief bug 17622 but i still only get biblios that have items attached
13:24 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=17622 major, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Needs Signoff , Export tool only exports biblios with items
13:25 Joubu drojf: you need to uncheck the libraries
13:27 drojf Joubu: ok that works. but it does not make sense does it? from a UI/UX perspective
13:28 Joubu not really, but... it was like that before the refactoring
13:29 drojf hm yes it appears that works without the patch too
13:29 drojf in my case
13:29 Joubu when you ask for records from libraries A or B, the query join on items and filter on the items.homebranch values
13:29 Joubu so if you select all the libraries, it does the same (and so need the join on the items table)
13:30 drojf ah ok i see
13:31 drojf then what does your patch fix? on top of it? how can i test it does something?
13:32 Joubu Create records with and without items
13:32 Joubu and make sure the records without items are exported when you don't specify item filters
13:33 Joubu but the behavior sounds ackward anyway
13:33 drojf i have. but if i have to disable the branch filter, it works for me with and wiothout the patch. so i don't see a difference. if that makes sense
13:33 Joubu I did not test without the patch :)
13:34 drojf i can only confirm it still works after the patch :)
13:35 Joubu drojf: yes it makes sense, so close it :)
13:36 drojf Joubu: oh but auth export does not work for me either :D
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13:47 drojf ok commandline export is also broken
13:47 drojf DBD::mysql::st execute failed: Unknown column 'me.marc' in 'field list'
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13:53 drojf coffee!
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14:12 edveal morning #koha
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14:15 drojf err lol ok auth export did not work because there were no auth records in the dev box :P
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14:22 kidclamp morning edveal
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14:32 rsantellan tcohen: I had installed all the packages of[…]elasticsearch.yml and I'm missing Catmandu/Importer/ there is no reference on the others task?
14:32 rsantellan in which package should be installed?
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14:36 oleonard Hi #koha
14:37 kidclamp hi oleopard
14:40 edveal hi oleopard
14:40 drojf hi oleonard
14:40 wahanui hi olé onard
14:41 oleonard I'm going to have to configure my chat client to buzz me on "oleopard" aren't I?
14:41 drojf yes
14:41 kidclamp you haven't already?
14:42 oleonard From now on I only respond to "O Captain, My Captain!"
14:45 gmcharlt "our fearful 'dit is done / the page has weather'd every tag, the CSS is won"...
14:45 * kidclamp climbs on his desk
14:45 * oleonard applauds
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14:48 tcohen hahaah
14:49 tcohen rsantellan: let me check
14:50 kidclamp just wondering - if an item is checked in that is not currently on loan the statistics table records a 'return' with no borrowernumber - if you have 'RecordLocalUse' enabled it records a 'localuse' with no borrowernumber. Is there any reason we record the blank return? seems like localuse is redundant sort of
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15:31 eythian hi oleopard
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15:37 tcohen rsantellan: does it install using plain apt?
15:37 rsantellan I installed it with sudo -E cpanm Catmandu::Importer::MARC
15:38 rsantellan because it wasn't found
15:38 Joubu you should not, see the deb files on the bug report
15:38 rsantellan this one: https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]_bug.cgi?id=17255
15:38 huginn Bug 17255: normal, P5 - low, ---, srdjan, ASSIGNED , Upgrade Elastic Search code to work with version 2.4+
15:39 rsantellan because on the task elastic search there are is a version of those
15:40 tcohen i've just added a new task
15:40 tcohen elasticsearch-2.x.yml
15:40 tcohen without the deps for now
15:40 tcohen working on those today
15:40 rsantellan alright, I wait then :)
15:41 tcohen anyways, you are talking about ES 1.7?
15:41 rsantellan ES 2.4 was going for
15:41 tcohen ok, yeah
15:41 tcohen so you are missing the deps
15:42 rsantellan okay
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15:50 kchris The "suggestion" preference in the OPAC applies to all libraries on a shared system. If branch library wants to disable this feature, what would be the best approach? Would it make sense to do this in jQuery?
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16:00 kidclamp kchris - you could either use jquery to hide the links, or override systempreferences on a per branch basis
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16:01 kidclamp first is probably much easier
16:03 kchris kidclamp: thanks, I will look into the jQuery root first.
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16:49 edveal kchris if you need any help let me know I can help you with that jQuery.
16:59 kchris edveal: Thanks for offer. I am reading the jQuery examples now, and looking at the page to see if I can figure it out. I will struggle a bit, and ask when I get stumped.
17:00 edveal np kchris let me know if you need anything.
17:22 reiveune bye
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18:31 tcohen rsantellan: almost ready
18:37 kidclamp tcohen++
18:38 tcohen are you available to test it, kidclamp?
18:38 kidclamp if you do it super quick yes
18:38 tcohen it is so d**n slow
18:38 tcohen yes
18:38 tcohen let me push it
18:38 kidclamp cool
18:39 tcohen done
18:39 tcohen remember to set
18:39 tcohen elasticsearch_version: 2.x
18:39 tcohen in user.yml :-D
18:40 tcohen kidclamp: I made it install Oracle Java 8
18:41 tcohen we can remove it/make it optional
18:41 tcohen but was the recommended thing to do from the Elastic people
18:41 bag yes that’s correct
18:41 tcohen
18:44 tcohen ^^^ that should be considered proof on trial
18:45 * kidclamp is biting his fingernails, too much suspense
18:46 bag tcohen: do I still need to KOHA_ELASTICSEARCH=1
18:46 tcohen yes
18:47 tcohen i'd say
18:47 tcohen he
18:47 kidclamp or set them all in user.yml?
18:47 tcohen i'm not sure about the other two
18:47 tcohen i mean, it should work
18:48 tcohen but if you happen to re-provision
18:48 tcohen you must remember to set them to 0
18:48 tcohen to avoid it failing
18:48 rsantellan tcohen: really good news :)
18:49 tcohen i'm all ears regarding user experience improvements
18:49 tcohen good defaults should go to user.yml
18:49 tcohen and exception ones on ENV, to override
18:50 * tcohen is anxious to hear from kidclamp
18:50 tcohen i'm testing nightly packages on Xenial, per drojf's request
18:52 tcohen rsantellan: if you are not using kohadevbox itself
18:52 tcohen this is the file[…]ticsearch-2.x.yml
18:53 tcohen I haven't tried it on xenial, but it should work as long as it has libmarc-xml-perl 1.0.3 as jessie
18:53 rsantellan I'm using kohadevbox but didn't want to reprovision it
18:53 rsantellan :)
18:55 tcohen it should be safe
18:55 tcohen as long as you disable skip_wbinstaller and create_admin_user
18:58 rsantellan alright, I will try it
18:59 kidclamp hmmm...something went wrong, it didn't use oracle - or skip webinstaller
18:59 kidclamp I have to retest, but have to run for now
18:59 kidclamp sorry tcohen
19:00 tcohen ok
19:00 tcohen no worries
19:01 kidclamp hah, oh maybe pull your commits before vagrant up
19:01 kidclamp :-)
19:01 tcohen that usually helps :-P
19:07 tcohen oops
19:07 tcohen :-D
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19:29 LibraryClaire evening #koha
19:31 * LibraryClaire pokes wahanui
19:31 wahanui ouch!
19:32 tcohen bye LibraryClaire
19:33 LibraryClaire bye?
19:34 tcohen yeah
19:34 tcohen tennis time :-P
19:34 tcohen later°!
20:55 rsantellan see ya #koha!
21:18 kchris edveal: I have a test version to hide the "patron suggestions" link for my library. Could I get you to take a look at it  and tell me if I have it right, or if there is a better way to go?
21:20 edveal kchris sure
21:22 kchris How should I share it with you?
21:22 kchris or email?
21:22 wahanui i guess email is sent to either the KohaAdminEmailAddress or the branch address - cait is not totally sure
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21:59 pastebot "kchris" at pasted "Attempt to use jQuery to remove "your purchase suggestions" for a particular branch library:branchcode M58" (1 line) at
22:02 kchris Hmm. Probably would have been better to paste the code directly rather than use
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22:36 kchris edveal: I pasted a snippet of jQuery here. I am pretty unsure about how to express the conditional (if (a particular branchcode) then...
22:36 edveal You can’t paste it directly in here.
22:36 kchris I pasted it using pastebot and a jpeg
22:37 kchris it's above.
22:37 edveal use the
22:37 kchris that's what I did.
22:37 edveal I am not able to access it.
22:37 kchris should I repeat (without using
22:38 kchris okay. I'll try again.
22:38 edveal Sure I just need a link
22:38 kchris
22:39 edveal kchris got it, let me take a look
22:39 kchris thanks.
22:40 edveal Looks reasonable to me. Do the branches have URL’s?
22:40 edveal Or is this only when they log in?
22:40 kchris The branches do have URLs
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22:41 edveal You might try hiding it based on the URL rather than the branchcode. Just a thought.
22:42 edveal Something like
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22:43 edveal Well folks I am heading out.
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22:55 kchris @later tell edveal thx for jQuery suggestions. I am going to try them out.
22:55 huginn kchris: The operation succeeded.
22:57 kchris later #koha
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