IRC log for #koha, 2016-11-15

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06:05 * magnuse waves
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06:56 drojf hi #koha
07:11 magnuse moin drojf & #koha
07:12 drojf hei magnuse
07:16 magnuse :-)
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07:34 fridolin hie there
07:34 drojf hi fridolin
07:34 fridolin drojf: yop, wats up ?
07:35 fridolin ah string freeze today
07:35 drojf fridolin: not much yet, need to get a coffee first
07:35 drojf how are you?
07:35 fridolin me too, im coffee adicted
07:36 fridolin I had a nice evening by watching the big moon
07:36 fridolin it was not that big but so yellow
07:36 fridolin amazing
07:37 drojf i think i missed the time when it was big, it was not that impressive when i saw it :P
07:38 drojf there is another chance on 14 december apparently
07:39 drojf magnuse: did your view come with a super moon?
07:39 magnuse nah, too cloudy
07:40 fridolin i have some pictures but they are not that good, its more impressive to see it real
07:40 fridolin it was a moon rising
07:41 magnuse i guess i could have seen it when i was flying in to bodø last night, but i must have been on the wrong side of the plane or something
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07:55 alex_a bonjour
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07:58 reiveune hello
07:58 wahanui what's up, reiveune
08:05 Joubu @later tell khall please ping me when you are around, I'd like to know what's the plan for the failing tests
08:05 huginn Joubu: The operation succeeded.
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08:36 gaetan_B hello
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09:00 Joubu " It's just you. is up. "
09:01 Joubu could someone confirm? It looks either down or very very slow
09:01 Joubu ok back, sorry for the noise...
09:01 Joubu (I hope I did not disturb you too much)
09:05 eythian @wunder jordaan, ams
09:05 huginn eythian: The current temperature in Ten Kateplein, Amsterdam, Netherlands is 12.3°C (9:54 AM CET on November 15, 2016). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 88%. Dew Point: 10.0°C. Pressure: 30.18 in 1022 hPa (Steady).
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09:17 drojf @wunder sxf
09:17 huginn drojf: The current temperature in Berlin Schoenefeld, Germany is 3.0°C (9:50 AM CET on November 15, 2016). Conditions: Light Drizzle. Humidity: 70%. Dew Point: -2.0°C. Windchill: -2.0°C. Pressure: 30.24 in 1024 hPa (Steady).
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09:22 eythian drojf: you should get in on the 12.3° action, so much better than 3.0°.
09:22 eythian 'cept I didn't realise it was so warm and wore my jacket when biking to work, which ended up far too warm.
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09:24 atheia Joubu, as the unchallenged avatar of Koha refactoring (;-) ), do you know whether anything's happening for Branchtransfers?
09:24 atheia We need it for a project — and I was thinking of opening a new bug for it.
09:24 atheia To create a Koha::Object for it.
09:25 atheia But also, I reckon, to add a primary key, probably just as a new auto_inc column.
09:27 atheia Also, hello Koha :-)
09:28 atheia …and only 6 weeks until this horrible year is over! yay.
09:28 drojf not a fan of 2016 bashing, but beginning to do it myself
09:28 drojf hi atheia
09:28 ashimema mornin' #koha
09:28 drojf hi ashimema
09:29 atheia drojf, right, I'm right there with you. So far my response was: random events are clumpy; don't play into the 2016 superstition, but now I'm just :'(
09:29 drojf eythian: tempting. i would like to do more biking than to work and back
09:29 eythian It's pretty much the best way for me to get around places here.
09:30 * ashimema should get his bike back out
09:30 drojf i'd like to do 30 or 50km at the old airport, but 12° would make that way more attractive
09:32 Joubu atheia: We already have a Koha::Item::Transfer
09:33 atheia Aha, interesting, thank you!
09:34 Joubu atheia: and a Koha::Item->get_transfer
09:34 atheia Joubu: well, that is beyond interesting, and in the realm of damn useful :-) I'll poke about with them.
09:37 Joubu atheia: There is a lot of C4 code still using SELECT/UPDATE sql statements on the branchtransfers table, they should be replaced. But I did not start it yet
09:38 atheia OK, and to the extent of that code being generalizable it would just be added as methods to Koha/Item/Transfer and maybe Koha/Item.
09:38 atheia ?
09:44 Joubu yep
09:47 ashimema teamwork++
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10:33 Joubu bug 17522 is signed off, go QA!
10:33 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=17522 blocker, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Signed Off , gives error of OpacRenewalAllowed is enabled
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11:51 LibraryClaire @wunder München
11:51 huginn LibraryClaire: Error: No such location could be found.
11:51 LibraryClaire lies
11:51 LibraryClaire @wunder Munich
11:51 huginn LibraryClaire: Error: No such location could be found.
11:51 LibraryClaire @wunder MUC
11:51 huginn LibraryClaire: Error: No such location could be found.
11:51 * LibraryClaire goes away
11:51 drojf away from nowhere?
11:52 drojf i am not sure that is technically possible
11:52 LibraryClaire My location is unknown right now
11:52 drojf your location does not exist. so you are nowhere to go away from
11:53 * LibraryClaire does not exist
11:57 magnuse @wunder enbo
11:57 huginn magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 9.0°C (12:50 PM CET on November 15, 2016). Conditions: Light Rain. Humidity: 71%. Dew Point: 4.0°C. Pressure: 29.15 in 987 hPa (Falling).
11:57 magnuse phew
11:58 LibraryClaire I'm sure MUC used to work
11:58 magnuse @wunder München, germany
11:58 drojf like berlin
11:58 huginn magnuse: Error: No such location could be found.
11:58 drojf @wunder berlin, germany
11:58 huginn drojf: The current temperature in Segeberger Straße, Wensin, Germany is 5.1°C (12:51 PM CET on November 15, 2016). Conditions: Light Drizzle. Humidity: 94%. Dew Point: 4.0°C. Windchill: 3.0°C. Pressure: 30.06 in 1018 hPa (Steady).
11:58 LibraryClaire @wunder munich, germany
11:58 drojf lol. gtfo, wensin
11:58 huginn LibraryClaire: The current temperature in Munich, Germany is 4.0°C (12:50 PM CET on November 15, 2016). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 75%. Dew Point: 0.0°C. Windchill: 1.0°C. Pressure: 30.39 in 1029 hPa (Steady).
11:58 LibraryClaire boom
11:58 magnuse @wunder munich, germany
11:58 huginn magnuse: The current temperature in Munich, Germany is 4.0°C (12:50 PM CET on November 15, 2016). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 75%. Dew Point: 0.0°C. Windchill: 1.0°C. Pressure: 30.39 in 1029 hPa (Steady).
11:58 drojf @wunder sxf
11:58 huginn drojf: The current temperature in Berlin Schoenefeld, Germany is 2.0°C (12:50 PM CET on November 15, 2016). Conditions: Light Rain. Humidity: 93%. Dew Point: 1.0°C. Windchill: -3.0°C. Pressure: 30.18 in 1022 hPa (Steady).
11:58 magnuse there ya go
11:59 magnuse there is also, of course, "Munich, North Dakota, United States, a city"
11:59 magnuse thanks wikipedia
11:59 magnuse @wunder munich, usa
11:59 huginn magnuse: The current temperature in Jenks St, Munich, North Dakota is 6.3°C (5:59 AM CST on November 15, 2016). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 81%. Dew Point: 3.0°C. Windchill: 3.0°C. Pressure: 29.74 in 1007 hPa (Steady).
12:02 Joubu Hum, could someone test to create an order (with acqcreateitem = on ordering)
12:03 Joubu I do not see the item form and get a JS error
12:03 Joubu TypeError: window[events[i]] is not a function
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12:15 vfernandes hi #koha
12:17 vfernandes quick question: can I define an issuing rule for one itemtype where the issuing length is the same day of the loan?
12:17 vfernandes until the end of the day?
12:18 vfernandes i've tried to define the issuing rule to 0 days but the issue length was automatic calculate for a day in December
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12:30 rsantellan good morning #koha
12:30 Joubu vfernandes: when you edit the circ rules, you can define a loan period by hours
12:31 Joubu maybe that could match your use case
12:31 vfernandes Joubu: but if the period is 8 hours and it's 8pm the loan will jump to the next day
12:31 vfernandes ?
12:32 Joubu yes
12:32 Joubu I guess
12:33 vfernandes that's not what I wanted... the loan should be 2016-11-15 23:59:59
12:33 vfernandes *the end date of the loan
12:33 Joubu vfernandes: or you can also use the on-site checkout feature, it's not really what you want but it will behave as you want
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12:35 vfernandes maybe I can create a routine for those issuing rules where the hard due date is automatically updated to end to the current day
12:37 Joubu or you can think "reusable" and propose a patch to add a new feature to Koha
12:40 vfernandes Joubu: because of the time limitations for now I will do a quick daily routine... later I can work on a new feature
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13:04 oleonard Hi all
13:12 ashimema vfernandes, we have people interested in 'same day loans' too
13:13 ashimema can't remember how far we got in investigating how hard it would be to implement.. and none of them wanted it enough to fund us
13:13 ashimema so it's on the backburner for us.. but I'd love to see such a feature
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13:30 rsantellan good morning tcohen! I'm trying the new kohadevbox and starting with: KOHA_ELASTICSEARCH=1 SKIP_WEBINSTALLER=1 CREATE_ADMIN_USER=1 vagrant up do a skipping on Elasticsearch 2.x | Run Elasticsearch on startup
13:31 tcohen you need to set elasticsearch_version: 2.x on your user.yml
13:32 rsantellan ahh alright. I change that
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13:34 tcohen bag reported failures last night
13:35 tcohen but seemed to be networking-related
13:35 tcohen so please let me know if it runs ok for you
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13:40 tcohen hi kidclamp
13:40 kidclamp hi tcohen
13:40 kidclamp just popping in before elastic training starts :-)
13:41 tcohen did u manage to finish
13:41 tcohen that
13:41 tcohen i created a Xenial box (manual install on Virtualbox)
13:41 tcohen and am trying the playbook
13:41 tcohen ansible-playbook -i inventory.xenial -k -K site.yml
13:41 kidclamp My es2 box booted, and was was running - but es was not happy about the idea of facets
13:41 tcohen ah
13:41 kidclamp searching+indexing failed
13:42 tcohen that's expected (facets)
13:42 kidclamp yes, but it completely failed, I thought it would just ignore facets
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13:42 kidclamp or hoped :-)
13:50 rsantellan tcohen on trying to install java 8 this fail: --recv 7B2C3B0889BF5709A105D03AC2518248EEA14886 gpg: requesting key EEA14886 from hkp server gpgkeys: key 7B2C3B0889BF5709A105D03AC2518248EEA14886 can't be retrieved
13:52 tcohen rsantellan: firewall preventing connexion to
13:53 tcohen try grabbing it somewhere else
13:55 rsantellan okay
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13:59 tcohen rsantellan:
13:59 Joubu khall: do you have any plans for the blocker?
13:59 rsantellan I downloaded the key by hand and installed
13:59 Joubu and the failing tests
13:59 wahanui the failing tests are MARC21 tests
13:59 rsantellan now is installing
14:02 tcohen @later tell bag make sure you git fetch ; git reset --hard origin/master and then set elasticsearch_version: 2.x on your new user.yml
14:02 huginn tcohen: The operation succeeded.
14:02 khall Joubu: do you mean bug 17522?
14:02 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=17522 blocker, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Signed Off , gives error of OpacRenewalAllowed is enabled
14:03 Joubu khall: no, bug 17591
14:03 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=17591 major, P5 - low, ---, tomascohen, Failed QA , Use fully qualified C4::Items function names in C4::Circulation
14:03 tcohen where's the rest of the QA team?
14:04 tcohen maybe we should have an emergency QA meeting
14:04 Joubu do not ask anything here, they all hide when you ask something :p
14:04 drojf they are in #qahidingplace talking about keeping quiet
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14:08 Joubu There is bug 16984 as well
14:08 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=16984 critical, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, REOPENED , Acquisitions broken
14:15 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 16520 - (Follow up) Restore retrieval of syspref_cache <[…]c4489045dd650316f>
14:17 * ashimema is partially here
14:17 * ashimema checks in every few hours to check he's not missed anything important
14:18 tcohen basically, jenkins is not looking good
14:19 tcohen and there are a couple explicit blockers
14:19 ashimema 16984 baffled me to be honest.. and it looked like you were doing stuff towards it in another bug Joubu
14:20 ashimema i meant 17591 there.. oops
14:20 ashimema not looked at 16984 yet
14:21 ashimema how can a bug be both major and low priority ;)
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14:21 Joubu Just PMed with khall: what about splitting bug 17599, and only pick what we want to fix the circ deps issue?
14:21 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=17599 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, ASSIGNED , Move C4::Circulation::GetIssuingRule to Koha::IssuingRules->get_effective_issuing_rule
14:21 tcohen ashimema: does that mean that you'd go for 16984
14:21 Joubu We will need good SO + QA
14:21 Joubu (and I won't ask for the next week for someone to do it)
14:21 khall agreed
14:22 tcohen lets do it today!
14:22 Joubu ok, I split it and confirm that it fixes the test failures
14:22 Joubu (or not)
14:23 ashimema :)
14:23 khall Joubu: What if we use GetIssuingRule as a wrapper for Koha::IssuingRules->get_effective_issuing_rule for the time being, and only replace it with a direct call where needed?
14:23 ashimema I'm only around for another half hour today :(.. kids duty
14:23 khall that would keep the code dry and mean it will be unit tested
14:23 ashimema but if there's anything left first thing tomorrow shout and I'll jump
14:23 khall thanks ashimema!
14:24 Joubu khall: then let's pick the whole patch, basically it just remove the {} to call the methods instead of accessing the hashref values
14:24 khall Joubu: that works for me
14:24 Joubu The patch on bug 17599 is not complicated as it, if we are 4 to test+qa, we could go with it
14:25 khall Joubu: I'll adapt the unit tests
14:25 Joubu khall: which ones?
14:25 wahanui which ones are lighztning talks?
14:25 khall I see you did that already
14:26 khall bug 17599
14:26 khall it's hard to call it a POC when you've done all the work!
14:26 Joubu yes, the patch is ready
14:27 Joubu it's a POC because I did not test it and there is no test plan.
14:28 khall Joubu: I see, I'll do some testing. tcohen care to test as well?
14:28 tcohen yup
14:29 Joubu it seems that the different test failures are fixed
14:30 Joubu I still get t/db_dependent/Reserves.t, but it depends on some wrong data in my DB I think
14:38 tcohen t/db_dependent/Circulation/TooMany.t
14:38 khall all of t passes for me, xt fails for unrelated reasons
14:38 khall tcohen: that fails for you?
14:38 tcohen t/db_dependent/Circulation/TooMany.t t/db_dependent/Reserves/MultiplePerRecord.t  t/db_dependent/Reserves.t
14:39 tcohen they fail for me
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14:39 Joubu what's the error?
14:40 pastebot "tcohen" at pasted "errors" (90 lines) at
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14:41 Joubu restart memcached?
14:41 Joubu they all pass for me with a fresh DB (using the installer)
14:42 Joubu and using my own script to populate the DB, I get failures from Reserves.t
14:45 Joubu ho wait
14:45 Joubu no it's ok, they pass
14:57 tcohen ah
14:57 tcohen is caching getting in the middle?
14:58 khall tcohen: Joubu: Did some interactive testing with all 6 cascading rules implemented, everything checks out! I'm going to sign and tomas can pass qa when he is comfortable doing so
15:08 pastebot Someone at pasted "TooMany.t" (43 lines) at
15:08 Joubu tcohen: pp
15:08 Joubu ^
15:09 Joubu CREATING and GET_INSTANCE are warn stt I added
15:10 khall in the meantime, I'm going to qa all the patches leading up to bug 15522
15:10 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=15522 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jweaver, ASSIGNED , New interface for revamped circulation rules
15:11 pastebot "tcohen" at pasted "Joubu" (22 lines) at
15:11 tcohen it seems I broke something :-D
15:11 khall tcohen don't you need to be the kohadev-koha user?
15:12 tcohen hahahahaha
15:12 khall : )
15:13 Joubu better then?
15:13 tcohen no
15:13 tcohen it passes if I run it alone
15:14 barton hey, does anyone know of anything that would disable OPAC_SEARCH_LIMIT set in the apache config? I thought that I had found a bug where I was seeing facets links show up for the wrong search domain, and then realized that I was actually seeing search results from the wrong branch as well.
15:14 Joubu tcohen: How do they fail?
15:15 pastebot "tcohen" at pasted "Like this" (134 lines) at
15:15 tcohen memcached is running
15:16 khall tcohen: have you run them without memcached running?
15:16 tcohen yeah
15:16 tcohen they pass, of course :-D
15:16 khall also, that makes no sense, it's using the is_deeply message as the test value
15:16 khall right?
15:16 tcohen which failure?
15:16 Joubu yes it's because toomany return nothing
15:17 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 17555: Add Koha::Patron->category <[…]061d0ea3a81167fd7>
15:17 Joubu so the second argument is the test's description
15:17 khall ah, I see, thanks Joubu!
15:17 pastebot "tcohen" at pasted "memcached stopped" (61 lines) at
15:17 Joubu Got it fails!
15:17 Joubu same as you
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15:17 Joubu same as you tcohen , with prove t/db_dependent/Circulation
15:18 Joubu tcohen: it's certainly unrelated to the rewrite
15:18 Joubu and now it keeps failing
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15:27 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 17604: GetMemberDetails - Add Koha::Patron::Category->eff​ective_BlockExpiredPatro... <[…]5871e1487b05a445a> / Bug 17594: Make Koha::Object->discard_changes available <[…]b2988bdd43a7357ec>
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15:37 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 17579 [QA Followup] - Fix the number of tests <[…]57daea36e7dc023a1> / Bug 17579: Make sure we are testing the real life <[…]caa2c264a153a3cf0> / Bug 17579: Add the Koha::Patron->is_expired <[…]t;a=commitdiff;h=
15:43 Joubu tcohen: t/db_dependent/Circulation/Returns.t:    C4::Context->set_preference( "item-level_itypes", 0 );
15:43 Joubu this is the cause
15:44 Joubu we SHOULD NOT call set_preference from tests
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15:46 Joubu git grep set_preference t|wc -l => 57
15:46 Joubu erk
15:46 tcohen ah!
15:47 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 17599: (QA followup) Perltidy really long lines <[…]8c00500439a38b1c4> / Bug 17599: (QA followup) Remove userenv warning <[…]41938c29958a4b1ea> / Bug 17599: Move C4::Circulation::GetIssuingRule to Koha::IssuingRules->get_effective_... <http://git.koha-com
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15:52 Joubu khall: I have attached a followup on 17599, did not see it was pushed already!
15:52 khall Joubu: will push!
15:57 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 17599: Make the tests pass <[…]357a2c448ac4aa777> / Bug 17522: Fix if OpacRenewalAllowed is set <[…]84191eca77112f68b>
16:03 reiveune bye
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16:10 Joubu tcohen: bug 17633
16:10 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=17633 normal, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Needs Signoff , Tests should not call set_preference
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17:51 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 17634: Unit test t/db_dependent/ArticleRequests.t is failing <[…]40f585b21e0f841cb>
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18:21 rsantellan one question: how can I ignore this warnings, Use of uninitialized value in concatenation (.) or string at /home/vagrant/kohaclone/C4/ ?
18:21 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 17635: Fix templates with missing body id <[…]a3f907f2d263b67be>
18:21 rsantellan my log is full of those
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18:33 tcohen rsantellan: the best approach is to fix Koha
18:35 rsantellan tcohen: then that will be the aproach. I'm the only one that is happening that all the time?
18:35 tcohen nope
18:35 tcohen we've been fixing those for ages
18:35 tcohen try to narrow the conditions in which it happens
18:35 tcohen and we'll see
18:35 tcohen are you using the DB user?
18:35 tcohen that usually triggers those on
18:36 rsantellan no, I'm using a custom ws user. I copy ldap class and create a custom web service auth.
19:05 rsantellan tcohen: I was missing some systempreferences parameters. After adding them I have few warnings
19:05 tcohen well, you shouldn't be missing sysprefs parameters
19:05 tcohen or, if it is normal, it shouldn't raise warnings either
19:05 tcohen report a bug
19:06 rangi morning
19:10 rangi
19:11 rangi still a little wobbly
19:11 tcohen rangi: you all ok?
19:11 tcohen @later tell drojf remember libsereal-perl
19:11 huginn tcohen: The operation succeeded.
19:12 rangi yeah, just with the high winds, earthquakes and flooding its been a pretty crappy week so far. Much worse for Kaikoura tho
19:12 bag wow
19:13 rangi oh awesome
19:13 rangi[…]hed-central-areas
19:14 rangi yay nature!
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19:15 rangi but the stranded cows got rescued at least hehe
19:16 rangi[…]escued-2016111510
19:16 rangi still about 1000 people trapped in kaikoura at the moment, but the navy are on the way to get them out by boat
19:17 rangi[…]help-badly-needed
19:17 rangi and there's your daily news roundup from rangi :)(
19:27 oleonard Hi rangi! Glad to know you're hanging in there
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19:55 mtj heya rangi, hope yall are doing ok
19:56 rangi yep all good, you?
19:58 mtj all good here thanks :0)
19:58 mtj food and coffee are dangerously low tho
20:03 mtj internet was down most of yesterday too :'(
20:03 rangi ahh yeah that doesn't help
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20:30 wizzyrea I "like" this view because it gives you the macro view of the (what I think is) weird pairs of aftershocks that we've been getting
20:30 wizzyrea
20:36 mtj hey wiz, youse off to kiwicon this week?
20:42 wizzyrea yes, actually! First time!
20:52 rangi[…]56/waiau-recovers  <-- really lovely interview
20:52 mtj woo, congrats.. i forgot to get tix this year
20:57 rangi we're only 1 km from the epicentre .. it was a bit of an interesting night  <-- classic nz understatement in action
20:57 wizzyrea I need to get a burner phone to put my sim in because I can't be without phone access while my kid is over the hill during aftershock time
20:57 rangi phones ok wizzyrea, just turn data off
20:58 rangi (at least thats what i do)
20:58 wizzyrea I thought about that, maybe will just do that
20:59 wizzyrea hacking mobile phones during a pretty much immediate post disaster time would be a dick move, but I suppose people would do it.
21:00 rangi yeah, i dont think you can do much just via sms and voice .. just dont use data/wifi
21:00 tcohen bag: this is what I get when trying to index
21:00 tcohen sorry:
21:01 tcohen anyway, have to leave
21:01 tcohen see u guys
21:01 tcohen and girls :-D
21:06 wizzyrea peeps :)
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21:39 kathryn hiyas
21:41 * cait waves
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21:42 cait hi LibraryClaire :)
21:43 LibraryClaire waddup?
21:43 cait too awake now
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21:48 LibraryClaire tea + bed + tv
21:52 cait yep -tea
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22:44 eythian kathryn: hey, how have you all been?
22:45 eythian same q for wizzyrea
22:45 eythian and rangi
22:45 eythian and mtj
22:45 kathryn hi eythian we're all variants on ok :)
22:45 rangi not too bad in the scheme of things, lost one beer mug
22:45 wizzyrea the last few days have not been amazing but ^
22:46 eythian a beer mug, that's pretty important :)
22:46 kathryn we are all above the tsunami line at home, in houses built on rock
22:46 wizzyrea Cloud cuckoo land was smashed :( that was sad. But it's rebuilt now.
22:47 wizzyrea one of the androids lost an arm
22:47 wizzyrea but it can be fixed
22:47 eythian kathryn: ah cool, I wasn't sure how close to the shore you were
22:47 eythian wizzyrea: oh no!
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22:47 kathryn eythian, our inlaws came to visit from across the road (lower lying)
22:48 eythian ah yep
22:48 wizzyrea yeah we had shore dwellers at our house as well
22:49 eythian heh, your steps would be a challenge for waves
22:49 wizzyrea Yes they would. at the road it's 60m+
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