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* magnuse |
waves |
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magnuse |
kia ora cait |
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cait |
morning magnuse :) |
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LibraryClaire |
morning #koha |
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fridolin |
hie there |
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LibraryClaire |
hi fridolin :) |
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fridolin |
LibraryClaire: hie |
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fridolin |
did I say you have the same name as my wife ? |
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LibraryClaire |
you did not :) |
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LibraryClaire |
it's a good name ^^ |
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reiveune |
hello |
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wahanui |
hello, reiveune |
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LibraryClaire |
hi reiveune |
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reiveune |
hi LibraryClaire |
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drojf |
morning #koha |
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* cait |
waves |
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cait |
bbiab |
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LibraryClaire |
hi drojf :) |
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drojf |
guten tag BüchereiKlara :) |
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drojf |
hi cait who isn't there |
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LibraryClaire |
haha I don't geta a notification for BüchereiKlara :( |
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drojf |
oh. you have to put it in your irc client! :3 |
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drojf |
LibraryClaire: or, you know, change your nick officially :P |
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LibraryClaire |
:O |
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ashimema |
mornin' #koha |
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ashimema |
no cait yet.. she;s slacking ;) |
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LibraryClaire |
hey ashimema |
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wahanui |
rumour has it ashimema is on qa now .) |
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drojf |
morning ashimema |
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ashimema |
brb, restart requiest |
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ashimema |
bck |
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Joubu |
@later tell bag please push Nick's follow-up from bug 14752 |
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huginn |
Joubu: The operation succeeded. |
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* atheia |
waves good morning |
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LibraryClaire |
hi atheia |
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atheia |
LibraryClaire hello :-) |
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* cait |
waves |
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drojf |
hi atheia |
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atheia |
hello both |
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ashimema |
mornin atheia |
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drojf |
@wunder berlin, germany |
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huginn |
drojf: The current temperature in Segeberger Straße, Wensin, Germany is 7.7°C (9:56 AM CEST on October 20, 2016). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 91%. Dew Point: 6.0°C. Windchill: 7.0°C. Pressure: 29.95 in 1014 hPa (Rising). |
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drojf |
:( |
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ashimema |
@wunder stevenage, uk |
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huginn |
ashimema: The current temperature in Monkswood, Stevenage, United Kingdom is 10.5°C (9:03 AM BST on October 20, 2016). Conditions: Rain. Humidity: 94%. Dew Point: 10.0°C. Pressure: 30.15 in 1021 hPa (Steady). |
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drojf |
wtf is wensin |
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drojf |
@wunder txl |
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huginn |
drojf: The current temperature in Rue du Capitaine Jean Maridor, Berlin, Germany is 7.1°C (9:55 AM CEST on October 20, 2016). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 94%. Dew Point: 6.0°C. Windchill: 7.0°C. Pressure: 29.95 in 1014 hPa (Steady). |
| 08:04 |
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atheia |
mornin' |
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* ashimema |
roles up his sleeves and digs into bug 17196 |
| 08:05 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=17196 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Needs Signoff , Move marcxml out of the biblioitems table |
| 08:06 |
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* ashimema |
wishes the bugzilla diff view was more like githubs |
| 08:07 |
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drojf |
patches welcome :P |
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AndrewIsh_away |
g'morn all |
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* ashimema |
thinks AndrewIsh_away isn't _away any more |
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* AndrewIsh |
thinks ashimema is correct |
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AndrewIsh |
@wunder machynlleth, uk |
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huginn |
AndrewIsh: The current temperature in Machynlleth, Machynlleth, United Kingdom is 7.2°C (9:45 AM BST on October 20, 2016). Conditions: . Humidity: 96%. Dew Point: 7.0°C. Windchill: 7.0°C. Pressure: 30.25 in 1024.3 hPa (Rising). |
| 09:11 |
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cait |
Joubu: thx for testing and commenting! Joubu++ |
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cait |
ashimema: you have tested the splinter review? |
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cait |
https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]&attachment=56680 you can write comments for every line |
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* kidclamp |
waves |
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drojf |
hi kidclamp |
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kidclamp |
hello Dr. O Jeff |
| 09:44 |
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drojf |
:D |
| 09:57 |
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ashimema |
cait: I have indeed use splinter review |
| 09:58 |
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ashimema |
it's more than you cant expand to see the surrounding code.. you loose allot of context |
| 09:58 |
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ashimema |
in github you can keep expanding the area of code you see so you can get much more context about what the change does without having to apply it to look |
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* ashimema |
also likes gitlab and wonders about using that |
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alex_a |
je passe dans le VPN de la Réunion |
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Joubu |
alex_a: take care! |
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drojf |
bbiab |
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drojf |
back |
| 11:19 |
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LibraryClaire |
hi drojf |
| 11:21 |
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ashimema |
from the future drojf? |
| 11:23 |
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drojf |
ashimema: finally back in good old 1955 |
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* LibraryClaire |
hopes drojf remembered to bring back a hoverboard |
| 11:29 |
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* drojf |
hoverboards |
| 11:29 |
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drojf |
damn, stuck on water |
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cait |
:) |
| 11:41 |
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AndrewIsh |
"those don't work on water, unless you've got POWER!" |
| 11:42 |
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* eythian |
throws a battery at drojf |
| 11:42 |
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eythian |
@wunder ams |
| 11:42 |
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huginn |
eythian: The current temperature in Schiphol, Badhoevedorp, Netherlands is 12.3°C (1:42 PM CEST on October 20, 2016). Conditions: Light Rain Showers. Humidity: 87%. Dew Point: 10.0°C. Pressure: 29.95 in 1014 hPa (Steady). |
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drojf |
thanks eythian |
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* drojf |
uses the battery as a paddle |
| 11:44 |
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oleonard |
Hi all |
| 11:45 |
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LibraryClaire |
Hi oleonard |
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wahanui |
hi oleopard |
| 11:45 |
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eythian |
hi oleonard |
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wahanui |
hi oleopard |
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eythian |
hi oleopard |
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drojf |
hi oleonard |
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wahanui |
hi olé onard |
| 11:48 |
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oleonard |
8) |
| 11:48 |
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LibraryClaire |
wahanui loves you |
| 11:48 |
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wahanui |
LibraryClaire: sorry... |
| 11:48 |
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LibraryClaire |
lol |
| 11:49 |
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* LibraryClaire |
pokes wahanui |
| 11:49 |
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wahanui |
I'm reporting you to HR! |
| 11:49 |
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LibraryClaire |
:D |
| 11:49 |
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eythian |
wahanui: botsnack |
| 11:49 |
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wahanui |
thanks eythian :) |
| 11:49 |
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drojf |
BR |
| 11:49 |
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eythian |
wahanui: status |
| 11:49 |
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wahanui |
Since Thu Jun 16 21:59:33 2016, there have been 1184 modifications and 500 questions. I have been awake for 125 days, 13 hours, 50 minutes, 3 seconds this session, and currently reference 49646 factoids. Addressing is in optional mode. |
| 11:49 |
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LibraryClaire |
bot resources? |
| 11:49 |
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drojf |
yep |
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LibraryClaire |
^^ |
| 11:50 |
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oleonard |
Being resources (all-inclusive) |
| 11:50 |
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drojf |
except the non-being |
| 11:50 |
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oleonard |
We're lucky wahanui isn't grumpy after being awake for 125 days |
| 11:50 |
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eythian |
way to ignore the needs of fictional people, oleonard |
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* LibraryClaire |
loves wahanui |
| 11:51 |
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drojf |
# Failed test 'Create DateTime with dt_from_string() for 2100-01-01 with TZ in less than 2s' |
| 11:51 |
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drojf |
master packages are broken |
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drojf |
# at t/DateUtils.t line 82. |
| 11:53 |
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* oleonard |
loves being able to put a face to drojf and LibraryClaire's nicks |
| 11:53 |
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drojf |
:) |
| 11:53 |
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oleonard |
eythian: Still waiting |
| 11:53 |
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eythian |
oleonard: waiting for what? |
| 11:53 |
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oleonard |
to meet you in person |
| 11:54 |
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eythian |
Oh, right. You do live in a pretty remote place, so it's not surprising really. |
| 11:54 |
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drojf |
i'd say best for everyone is to meet in berlin |
| 11:55 |
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drojf |
i don't see any objections, so it's a deal :D |
| 11:55 |
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eythian |
Amsterdam is probably more fun |
| 11:56 |
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drojf |
ok works for me |
| 11:56 |
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oleonard |
Oh look who just volunteered to organize a hackfest! |
| 11:56 |
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drojf |
eythian: i have not completely given up on going to amsterdam this year btw |
| 11:57 |
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eythian |
oleonard: but marcelr isn't even online! |
| 11:57 |
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eythian |
drojf: I figured that was the case :) |
| 11:57 |
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drojf |
you can organize it together! |
| 11:58 |
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LibraryClaire |
oleonard: same :) |
| 11:58 |
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* LibraryClaire |
pulls face |
| 12:00 |
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Joubu |
drojf: it's not really broken. This test assume that the creation of a DT in 2100 will take less than 2s |
| 12:00 |
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Joubu |
if the server is super busy, it can happen |
| 12:00 |
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drojf |
the nightly server is slow, it will always be busy |
| 12:01 |
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drojf |
then it should not fail the build if it does not matter |
| 12:01 |
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Joubu |
it does matter |
| 12:01 |
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drojf |
for what? ^^ |
| 12:01 |
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drojf |
mine takes 2.5 |
| 12:01 |
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drojf |
and it will always take that |
| 12:01 |
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Joubu |
upgrade your server :D |
| 12:01 |
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drojf |
nope ^^ |
| 12:02 |
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drojf |
it works fine for what it does. just the test fails |
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Joubu |
we could tell the script to skip it if a ENV var is set |
| 12:04 |
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Joubu |
if ENV{SERVER_SLOW}: skip :) |
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drojf |
why does it choose 2 seconds? is that arbitrary or is there a reson behind it? |
| 12:04 |
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Joubu |
because 1 was too low |
| 12:04 |
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drojf |
reason |
| 12:04 |
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Joubu |
so you change it to 2 |
| 12:04 |
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drojf |
2 is too low |
| 12:04 |
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drojf |
:P |
| 12:04 |
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Joubu |
:) |
| 12:04 |
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drojf |
change it to 2 |
| 12:04 |
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wahanui |
drojf: that doesn't look right |
| 12:04 |
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drojf |
3 |
| 12:04 |
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drojf |
wahanui: true. how did you know? |
| 12:04 |
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wahanui |
drojf: bugger all, i dunno |
| 12:05 |
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drojf |
wahanui: botsnack beer |
| 12:05 |
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wahanui |
thanks drojf :) |
| 12:05 |
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drojf |
Joubu: what is it supposed to prove? warn when something is introduced that slows it down badly? |
| 12:06 |
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Joubu |
tcohen: around? |
| 12:06 |
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drojf |
that would work with 3 seconds :P |
| 12:06 |
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Joubu |
drojf: but that will fail on a slower server... |
| 12:06 |
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Joubu |
so not sure it's the solution to increase it again |
| 12:06 |
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Joubu |
2 is already too high |
| 12:07 |
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drojf |
ok then i'd go with the env var and <2 seconds for the test |
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drojf |
i need some way to skip it, or i can't do nightlies |
| 12:07 |
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drojf |
or i have to add a patch that deletes the test, but that does not make sense |
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Joubu |
drojf: please open a bug report and assign it to me |
| 12:08 |
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drojf |
oleonard: so how do we get you to a hackfest in berlin? i am not good at faces and waiting for 2020 in NZ is too long ;) |
| 12:08 |
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drojf |
Joubu: ok thanks |
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rsantellan |
good morning #koha |
| 12:09 |
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rsantellan |
sorry I ask a question yesterday and my internet break down before the answer :( |
| 12:10 |
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drojf |
rsantellan: there is a log |
| 12:10 |
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drojf |
log? |
| 12:10 |
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wahanui |
i think log is http://irc.koha-community.org/irclog/koha/ |
| 12:10 |
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rsantellan |
I look on the logs and cait answer me at 20:58: http://irc.koha-community.org/koha/2016-10-19 |
| 12:10 |
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drojf |
if somebody answrered |
| 12:10 |
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drojf |
ah |
| 12:10 |
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oleonard |
I don't know drojf :( My personal travel budget is reserved for family vacations. We might be planning a trip to Europe this summer though |
| 12:11 |
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rsantellan |
but I don't know the which link is correct :( |
| 12:11 |
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rsantellan |
about marc21 field 008 language, which ISO code use for the Three-character alphabetic code ? I look here: https://www.loc.gov/marc/bibli[…]aphic/bd008a.html and I assume is this one: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/[…]639_macrolanguage |
| 12:13 |
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drojf |
oleonard: other option is you do a kohacon at home :P |
| 12:14 |
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* oleonard |
wonders how he can rope a nearby library into doing that for him |
| 12:24 |
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kivilahtio |
ashimema: hi! lari said that you have been interested in HATEOAS for the REST API. I have a small feature which generates a dynamic UI widget from HATEOAS links. If you are interested I can make a short screencast of the feature. |
| 12:24 |
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kivilahtio |
ashimema: you can findthe code here: https://github.com/KohaSuomi/k[…]98017466e73ef3e1d |
| 12:25 |
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kivilahtio |
ashimema: under label KD-671 you can find more code for our national cataloguing center and how it integrates with other Koha-installations via the REST API |
| 12:25 |
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ashimema |
sounds interesting.. will take a look when I have a moment spare ;) |
| 12:26 |
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kivilahtio |
ashimema: also you can see the endpoint and the payload here |
| 12:26 |
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kivilahtio |
https://renki.vaarakirjastot.f[…]records/addRecord |
| 12:26 |
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kivilahtio |
ashimema: we are using the Swagger-UI you so hated :) |
| 12:26 |
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kivilahtio |
ashimema: I think it is an excellent tool for publishing the API doc, unfortunately not everything works there as it should |
| 12:26 |
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ashimema |
i didn't hate it.. |
| 12:27 |
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ashimema |
I just didn't think it should be in core koha.. |
| 12:27 |
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ashimema |
it's a big lot of imports |
| 12:27 |
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kivilahtio |
ashimema: I couldn't find any best practices other than one article from Spring about how to formalyl define hateoas links: |
| 12:27 |
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kivilahtio |
https://spring.io/understanding/HATEOAS |
| 12:27 |
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kivilahtio |
ashimema: It is a very big import, agreed |
| 12:28 |
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kivilahtio |
ashimema: we embedded it's install instructions to the UBUNTU.install Koha instructable |
| 12:28 |
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kivilahtio |
ashimema: and maintaining the REST API authentication hooks in the Swagger-UI is a PITA. |
| 12:28 |
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kivilahtio |
ashimema: but we haven't taken the code to our repo either. |
| 12:30 |
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kivilahtio |
ashimema: also there is an abstraction layer so it is possible to connect Koha to multiple different API's from the javascript layer. But that is another can of worms :) |
| 12:30 |
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kivilahtio |
take care! |
| 12:42 |
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kivilahtio |
ashimema: forgot to mention. When you get into HATEOAS I found that the need for vocabularies and schemas became pretty apparent |
| 12:42 |
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kivilahtio |
ashimema: so we would need to define our business objects using some public schema, like schema.org |
| 12:43 |
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kivilahtio |
ashimema: to make them interchangeable so everybody knows whtat to expect our business objects to be like |
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kivilahtio |
ashimema: this is problematic since schema.org doesn't have the object definitions we need or are rather far off from what we do |
| 12:44 |
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kivilahtio |
ashimema: if you know of a schema which would encompass our business objects better, do let me know! |
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tcohen |
morning |
| 12:58 |
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drojf |
hi tcohen |
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| 12:58 |
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drojf |
so how did i make that shibboleth thing work in france? |
| 12:59 |
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drojf |
was easier with ashimema by my side |
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LibraryClaire |
hi tcohen |
| 13:00 |
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tcohen |
hi drojf, LibraryClaire, cait |
| 13:01 |
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tcohen |
drojf: have you seen bug 17467? |
| 13:01 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=17467 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, tomascohen, Needs Signoff , There should be a koha-zebra script to handle Zebra daemons for instances |
| 13:02 |
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tcohen |
I'm interested in your opinion on the use of koha-common.links |
| 13:02 |
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tcohen |
on the followup bug |
| 13:02 |
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tcohen |
17468 |
| 13:03 |
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drojf |
tcohen: yes. yay for more consistency and less scripts |
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tcohen |
do bash tab-completion scripts work for zsh users? |
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drojf |
don't know |
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ashimema |
Zsh can handle bash completions functions. The latest development version of zsh has a function bashcompinit, that when run will allow zsh to read bash completion specifications and functions. This is documented in the zshcompsys man page. To use it all you need to do is run bashcompinit at any time after compinit. It will define complete and compgen functions corresponding to the bash builtins. |
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ashimema |
that's from 2010 |
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ashimema |
so in short.. yes they should work if the zsh user has enabled them |
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* AndrewIsh |
is wondering if anyone fancies talking modals... |
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oleonard |
Sure AndrewIsh |
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ashimema |
khall, oleonard ^ that was probably aimed at you ;) |
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ashimema |
:D |
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khall |
indeed! |
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AndrewIsh |
so, i'm working on a ui which has "add a new thing" and "modify existing thing" requirements, my immediate thought for this was modals, however... |
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AndrewIsh |
ashimema pointed me at this https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]_bug.cgi?id=15707 |
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huginn |
Bug 15707: enhancement, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Signed Off , Add ability to define hierarchical groups of libraries |
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AndrewIsh |
looking at the conversation there, it seems like the decision about whether to use modals or not is still very much up in the air |
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AndrewIsh |
and i wanted to make sure that was the case, or whether the conversation has moved further |
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AndrewIsh |
specifically: https://bugs.koha-community.or[…].cgi?id=15707#c70 |
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huginn |
Bug 15707: enhancement, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Signed Off , Add ability to define hierarchical groups of libraries |
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khall |
well, we *have* switched to bootstrap modals in some areas, |
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oleonard |
I would say that the current interface standard is not to use modals for basic "add a new thing" operations |
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khall |
so there is precedent. But I defer to oleonard on this |
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khall |
true |
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oleonard |
We use modals in different ways: To display additional information, to perform other kinds of operations |
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ashimema |
what do we use for 'add new thing'? |
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khall |
hide the table and show the form instead |
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* ashimema |
is very out of date.. this is another area he's trying to catch up |
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oleonard |
The old model is separate page views, but yeah, what khall says |
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AndrewIsh |
ah, ok, so hide/show is preferable to separate page views, good to know :) |
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oleonard |
AndrewIsh: I'd say both are fine. Hide/show is faster if you're comfortable with the JS process. |
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oleonard |
We are historically conservative about enriching interfaces with lots of DOM manipulation but we're getting more bold :) |
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AndrewIsh |
oleonard: definitely, having spent the past 2 years working in angular, anything to bring about fewer page refreshes the better imho ;-) |
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AndrewIsh |
just out of interest, is there any particular reason why you've resisted modals for add/modify functions? to me, they're an obvious use for them |
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oleonard |
AndrewIsh: Just trying to keep things consistent until someone is ready to commit to a more broad overhaul |
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AndrewIsh |
oleonard: fair enough, inconsistency is never good. kind of feels like the sort of thing that would fit well into the brave new world that the react work could bring |
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oleonard |
Agreed |
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ashimema |
khall needs to add a react based bootstrap modal ;) |
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ashimema |
then we can convert all the things ;) |
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ashimema |
mwahahahah |
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khall |
it's on the todo list ; ) |
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* ashimema |
used to like the idea of inline editing.. the the more time's I've implemented it the more times I've decided actually it's often not a ux win at all.. a modal would have sufficed better. |
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AndrewIsh |
inline editing only really works if you're backed by an api |
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AndrewIsh |
having to submit once you've inline edited your stuff somewhat defeats the object |
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oleonard |
In my opinion the quotes editor shows that inline editing is hard to make discoverable and understandable to the user |
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AndrewIsh |
oleonard: +1 |
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ashimema |
indeed |
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ashimema |
modals for the win in my opinion ;) |
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AndrewIsh |
thanks for the advice all, much appreciated |
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LibraryClaire |
laters #koha :) |
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tcohen |
bye! |
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waves |
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reiveune |
bye |
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drojf |
later #koha |
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AndrewIsh |
oleonard / khall: what would be a good example of ui that allows re-ordering of a list? |
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oleonard |
AndrewIsh: We don't have one as far as I can recall |
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oleonard |
The holds priority re-ordering process is in dire need of a JS solution for that, for instance. |
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AndrewIsh |
oleonard: ah, ok. so if i was to create some sort of JS "move this element to the correct position then click save" ui, is that likely to be problematic? it's specifically for re-ordering rows in a table |
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oleonard |
Go for it. I think we may already have the jQueryUI sortable widget available in the staff client so I would look at that first. |
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oleonard |
https://jqueryui.com/sortable/ |
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oleonard |
...but pick what you think is best. |
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ashimema |
AndrewIsh++ |
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AndrewIsh |
oleonard: ah yes, that would be exactly the sort of thing i need, thanks. i think the biggest problem would be ensuring the user clicked "save" after re-ordering. i think it would be a combination of making it super obvious that they need to save and... |
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AndrewIsh |
...ooh actually... |
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ashimema |
do remember accessibility though |
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AndrewIsh |
...have you made use at all of the commonly used "you're about to leave this page with un-saved changes" technique? |
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oleonard |
AndrewIsh: I wonder if you could save in the background after each drag-and-drop |
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AndrewIsh |
oleonard: i could, but that kind of necessitates an api endpoint really |
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oleonard |
The system preferences page has a version of the 'leave this page' warning |
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oleonard |
Not sure if it's usable elsewhere, but it's certainly a valid option |
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AndrewIsh |
oleonard: well, either an api endpoint, or a handler for the save in the controller |
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* AndrewIsh |
makes a note to talk api endpoints with ashimema tomorrow... |
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ashimema |
:) |
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AndrewIsh |
oooh, time to run. thanks for the advice oleonard, food for thought there :) bye all |
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ashimema |
REST all the things |
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* LibraryClaire |
waves |
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* andreashm |
waves |
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* cait |
waves : |
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cait |
:) |
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wizzyrea |
joubou++ because he's generally great and very nice |
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* andreashm |
waves again |
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andreashm |
hopefully I wont be logged out without noticing again. |
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cait |
yy |
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andreashm |
hi cait |
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cait |
hi andreashm :) |
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cait |
how are things? |
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andreashm |
all is good here. |
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andreashm |
how are you? how was the hackfest? |
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cait |
exhausting but good :) |
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andreashm |
as usual then. =) |
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cait |
yep |
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andreashm |
sad I couldn't go. ended up having to make a quick visit back home for family matters instead. =/ |
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cait |
:/ |
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andreashm |
I guess there's always next year. |
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andreashm |
whenever that is. will it be during spring as it usually is or continue with fall? |
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andreashm |
ok, anyway, I'm off to bed. bye #koha |
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cait |
hi kathryn :) |
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cait |
night all! |
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wahanui |
goodnight cait. You'll be back. |
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kathryn |
hi cait, and night! |
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CrispyBran |
Anyone have experience setting up authentication through referring url? |
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rangi |
morning |
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