IRC log for #koha, 2016-10-21

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01:27 mtj hi #koha
01:28 mtj ahh, i see crispy is no longer online
01:30 mtj ..was going to suggest apache  + mod_webauth or mod_rewrite modules
01:30 mtj rangi:[…]ches-mod_rewrite/
01:31 mtj oops, typo..  sorry to bother chris :)
01:32 mtj[…]t/howto/auth.html
01:33 mtj
01:36 mtj @later tell CrispyBran: try apache  + mod_webauth or mod_rewrite modules
01:36 mtj @later tell CrispyBran:[…]ches-mod_rewrite/
01:36 mtj @later tell CrispyBran:
01:36 huginn mtj: The operation succeeded.
01:36 huginn mtj: The operation succeeded.
01:36 huginn mtj: The operation succeeded.
01:39 mtj ..but afaik, its trivial to fake a referer... so perhaps a bad idea? :'(
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01:47 mtj apache and shib is probably the best option
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01:48 mtj ^ ..i think that would work as an ezproxy substitue, even?
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01:55 mtj apache+shib+mod_shib+mod_proxy = ezproxy
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02:08 dcook @later tell wizzyrea this made me think of you for some reason
02:08 huginn dcook: The operation succeeded.
02:08 dcook @later tell wizzyrea I may have popped on to IRC just to say that...
02:08 huginn dcook: The operation succeeded.
02:08 wizzyrea haha
02:09 dcook "D
02:09 dcook :D*
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04:14 dcook I seem to recall there being test builder scripts..
04:14 dcook t::lib::Mocks?
04:15 dcook t/lib...
04:16 dcook Cool, I'm going to make a t::lib::MockServer, or something
04:21 dcook Or is that just too much work today..
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05:32 * magnuse waves
05:33 * cait waves
05:35 magnuse \o/
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06:11 drojf morning #koha
06:12 * cait waves
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06:15 LibraryClaire morning #koha
06:15 LibraryClaire @wunder Konstanz
06:15 huginn LibraryClaire: The current temperature in Mainaustraße, Konstanz, Germany is 8.4°C (8:14 AM CEST on October 21, 2016). Conditions: Rain. Humidity: 88%. Dew Point: 7.0°C. Windchill: 8.0°C. Pressure: 29.94 in 1014 hPa (Rising).
06:15 cait brr
06:15 drojf hi cait and LibraryClaire
06:15 LibraryClaire completely soaked through
06:16 LibraryClaire and my bag broke on my way in
06:16 cait ;(
06:16 drojf @wunder berlin, germany
06:16 LibraryClaire hi drojf :)
06:16 huginn drojf: The current temperature in Segeberger Straße, Wensin, Germany is 7.5°C (8:12 AM CEST on October 21, 2016). Conditions: Rain. Humidity: 91%. Dew Point: 6.0°C. Windchill: 8.0°C. Pressure: 29.89 in 1012 hPa (Steady).
06:16 drojf stop giving me wensin, whatever that is
06:16 cait about the same
06:17 drojf Wensin ist eine Gemeinde am Ufer des Wardersees im Kreis Segeberg in Schleswig-Holstein
06:17 drojf wtf
06:17 cait lol
06:17 drojf @wunder txl
06:17 huginn drojf: The current temperature in Rue du Capitaine Jean Maridor, Berlin, Germany is 7.3°C (8:15 AM CEST on October 21, 2016). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 100%. Dew Point: 7.0°C. Windchill: 7.0°C. Pressure: 29.86 in 1011 hPa (Steady).
06:17 Joubu @later tell dcook what's wrong with t/lib?
06:17 huginn Joubu: The operation succeeded.
06:20 * drojf wants tea. or coffee. omg decisions before first tea or coffee
06:20 LibraryClaire I will be getting coffee as soon as the machine has finished making it!
06:21 * LibraryClaire goes on a coffee hunt
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06:23 fridolin hie there
06:23 * cait guesses she should hurry up to join LibraryClaire at work
06:23 cait but it's raining!
06:23 * LibraryClaire recommends an umbrella
06:23 dcook Joubu: Nothing at all. I just didn't realize it existed until just the other day, and remembered again today :)
06:24 dcook Joubu: I was thinking of adding a module for mocking servers...
06:24 dcook I've been using Test::TCP and Net::Server::HTTP within individual tests, but it would probably be nicer to have a module shared among tests for it..
06:25 Joubu yes we have not put enough code yet in lib
06:25 Joubu but we need to centralise some stuffs
06:25 dcook Agreed :)
06:26 dcook I wonder if having a mock server would be helpful to people..
06:26 dcook I suppose so
06:26 dcook For my purpose, I'm using it to mock a OAI server, so my OAI client can be tested
06:26 dcook But it could be used for the Koha::OAI modules as well..
06:26 dcook In fact, I suppose those all could be tested together?
06:26 Joubu I don't think we have tests already
06:26 dcook I'll keep it in mind, and see what I come up with :)
06:26 Joubu iirc someone asks on a bug to get test for it, but not sure we got them
06:27 drojf hi dcook!
06:27 dcook heya drojf :)
06:27 dcook Joubu: Cool. I figure people are going to be asking for lots of tests with bug 10662 so I'm trying to provide as many as possible
06:27 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=10662 new feature, P3, ---, dcook, Patch doesn't apply , Build OAI-PMH Harvesting Client
06:27 drojf and hi Joubu. thanks for the key, i'll try to add it somewhen this weekend
06:27 dcook And learning the hard-way the joys of test-driven design. I wish I'd written the tests from the start rather than after..
06:28 Joubu dcook: bug 15108
06:28 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=15108 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, ere.maijala, Signed Off , OAI-PMH provider improvements
06:29 dcook Oooh. I've been hoping someone would fix the server to use UTC as per the spec..
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06:29 alex_a bonjour
06:29 wahanui que tal, alex_a
06:30 LibraryClaire hi alex_a
06:30 alex_a salut LibraryClaire
06:34 Joubu I am stuck with a pref name... cf bug 17453
06:34 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=17453 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Needs Signoff , Inter-site holds improvement
06:34 Joubu I need a pref to list the patron categories which won't be affected by the behavior of the other pref is it's switched off
06:35 Joubu OPACHoldsIfAvailableAtPickupUnlessForCategories sounds... a bit ... too long... isn't?
06:37 dcook hehe
06:38 Joubu cait, LibraryClaire maybe?
06:41 LibraryClaire hello
06:41 LibraryClaire hehe
06:41 LibraryClaire OPACHoldsIfAvailableAtPickupExceptions ?
06:41 LibraryClaire it's still relatively long
06:42 cait i like exceptions
06:42 drojf a nice acronym for holdsifavailableatpickup. HIAAP :P
06:42 * cait grabs the umbrella and heads out
06:42 Joubu It's but it's "if available" not "not if available"
06:43 Joubu so it's an exception for something true
06:43 Joubu the name sounds wrong in that case
06:43 LibraryClaire brrrrr
06:43 * LibraryClaire searches for brain
06:43 Joubu that would work if the first pref did the contrary
06:43 LibraryClaire what's the first pref called?
06:44 Joubu OPACHoldsIfAvailableAtPickup
06:44 LibraryClaire the first pref excludes people, yes?
06:44 LibraryClaire ok
06:44 Joubu no the first pref is on by default
06:44 Joubu So maybe I should invert everything
06:45 LibraryClaire the first pref doesn't change current functionality unless turned off - am I understanding correctly?
06:45 Joubu yes, that's it
06:45 LibraryClaire ok
06:46 * LibraryClaire thinks
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06:51 magnuse @wunder boo
06:51 huginn magnuse: Error: No such location could be found.
06:51 magnuse :-O
06:51 magnuse @wunder marseille
06:51 huginn magnuse: Error: No such location could be found.
06:52 alex_a :-)
06:52 magnuse @wunder bodø, norway
06:52 huginn magnuse: Error: No such location could be found.
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06:53 AndrewIsh g'morn all
06:53 reiveune hello
06:55 eythian @wunder ams
06:55 huginn eythian: The current temperature in Schiphol, Badhoevedorp, Netherlands is 4.8°C (8:54 AM CEST on October 21, 2016). Conditions: Patches of Fog. Humidity: 94%. Dew Point: 4.0°C. Windchill: 5.0°C. Pressure: 30.01 in 1016 hPa (Steady).
06:55 eythian Chilly
07:05 LibraryClaire hi AndrewIsh
07:08 AndrewIsh hi LibraryClaire
07:09 drojf hi eythian and AndrewIsh
07:13 liw @wunder helsinki
07:13 huginn liw: The current temperature in Helsinki, Finland is 4.0°C (9:50 AM EEST on October 21, 2016). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 61%. Dew Point: -3.0°C. Windchill: 1.0°C. Pressure: 30.51 in 1033 hPa (Steady).
07:13 AndrewIsh hi drojf
07:13 ashimema @wunder stevenage, uk
07:13 huginn ashimema: The current temperature in Monkswood, Stevenage, United Kingdom is 7.9°C (8:13 AM BST on October 21, 2016). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 95%. Dew Point: 7.0°C. Windchill: 6.0°C. Pressure: 30.12 in 1020 hPa (Steady).
07:13 AndrewIsh @wunder machynlleth
07:13 ashimema mornin' #koha
07:13 huginn AndrewIsh: The current temperature in Machynlleth, United Kingdom, United Kingdom is 4.3°C (8:06 AM BST on October 21, 2016). Conditions: . Humidity: 96%. Dew Point: 4.0°C. Windchill: 4.0°C. Pressure: 30.16 in 1021.2 hPa (Steady).
07:13 AndrewIsh wunder, you wrong! it's 2.5C
07:15 AndrewIsh hi ashimema
07:15 LibraryClaire hi ashimema
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07:16 * AndrewIsh peeks outside, shivers and returns to the warmth of the office
07:28 magnuse @wunder boo
07:28 huginn magnuse: Error: No such location could be found.
07:28 magnuse does that mean i can take the rest of the week off?
07:29 AndrewIsh magnuse: i think it does!
07:29 magnuse woohoo!
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07:32 archer121 Hi, we use the batch checkout facility to issue books to the patrons. But through this feature, it is not possible to  renew the books. I know that the "forced_checkout" permission will do the job, but is there a permission that will just allow renewals only from batch checkout?
07:33 Joubu no
07:33 Joubu We do not have specific behavior for batch checkout so far
07:34 archer121 forced checkout will bypass all limits. All I want is the staff be allowed to renew books to the patron when he tries to checkout the book (that is already in his account)
07:34 archer121 Joubu: Is it difficult to implement?
07:35 Joubu It depends
07:35 Joubu I don't think so
07:35 Joubu But it would be the first behavior specific for batch checkouts, so I guess they are some hidden problematics
07:36 Joubu there*
07:37 archer121 If I sponsor some developer, how muck would it cost?
07:37 archer121 much*
07:38 Joubu heh
07:39 archer121 I just need the approximate figure so that I can talk with my superiors
07:39 Joubu it depends on the number of hours it needs and who are you going to ask to implement it I guess :)
07:41 Joubu archer121: whoever you ask, make sure the code will be submitted on bugzilla
07:41 * ashimema hints at Joubu being a good contractor for this sort of thing ;)
07:42 ashimema but you need to write a good spec explaining exactly what it is you want.. for any developer to stand a chance getting it right to your specifications ;)
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07:45 Joubu or ask the developer to write the spec and validate it :p
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07:47 Joubu haaa atheia :)
07:47 Joubu atheia: hi! Would you like to take a look at 17471 and 17472 please?
07:48 archer121 ashimema: I need to ask my boss. What she will be asking first is how  much it will cost. Can I know how much (atleast max amount), so that I can propose this to my boss? How much do developers usually charge for such things?
07:52 drojf i don't think it is possible to answer that. i'd say you should pay joubu to write the spec to get an estimate how much the feature would cost :)
07:52 atheia Good morning!
07:52 wahanui well, it's morning somewhere, yes
07:52 drojf hi atheia
07:52 atheia Joubu, sure will do.
07:52 * atheia waves
07:54 atheia Joubu, yeah, both sound sensible and eminently doable.
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07:54 magnuse archer121: people here are mostly developers, not necessarily the ones who set the price. my recommendation would be to write up what you want in an email, send it to the list and ask for prices/offers. that will reach more people and give some time to think about it
07:54 magnuse bug 17471
07:54 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=17471 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , Borrower Previously Checked Out: Date of last checkout
07:55 magnuse bug 17472
07:55 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=17472 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , Borrower Previously Checked Out: Display title
07:58 smon hi! how would I bulkimport loc authority data? i am new to ILSs: is there already some script/program that can map loc's rdf to marc?
08:02 * ashimema hasn't yet got round to scheduling OSS Tuits for AndrewIsh and atheia yet.. but likes the idea of those two getting done at some point too
08:02 * atheia goes off to find out what or who OSS Tuits is.
08:02 ashimema that should be /open time oss tuits/ really.. i.e unsponsored work time
08:02 ashimema OSS = open source software
08:03 atheia sure… tuits?
08:03 ashimema tuits
08:04 atheia Ooh, that's a fun word.
08:04 ashimema or[…]ine.php?term=tuit perhaps is a better explanation ;)
08:04 ashimema you never heard that before atheia?
08:04 atheia I like
08:04 atheia nope
08:04 ashimema it's fairly common in oss circles I've lurked in in the paste
08:05 atheia It will be in my circles now too :D
08:05 ashimema kind of a 'mythical payment' for work you 'might never get around to'
08:05 ashimema :)
08:06 ashimema I'd like to arrange 'tuits' to be dished out within the company.. i.e alloted time for us devs to just do what we think needs doing to better koha without it being driven by the boss or the client ;) (QA, Signoff, Minor Enhancements like the above)
08:06 * AndrewIsh is intrigued by the concept of "mythical payment"
08:07 ashimema it's use in the context of "I've love to, but I don't have enough tuits right now"
08:07 ashimema round tuits is interchangable
08:07 smon sorry, i am somewhat confused: are you talking about my question or continuing a conversation from before I joined the chat? :D
08:08 ashimema continueing smon
08:08 ashimema I'm not sure of the answer to your question..
08:08 Joubu ashimema: it's more or less what I try to do every day ;)
08:09 ashimema 'might' do it if you can get the loc authorities in a mass marc file
08:09 ashimema smon^
08:09 ashimema indeed Joubu :)
08:09 smon it only might?
08:09 atheia Definitely, mythical tuit payment would be a lovely company perk ^^
08:09 smon are there tools for rdf->marc?
08:12 mtj smon:  perl ./ -a -m ISO2709 -file ./authorities.mrc
08:13 ashimema thanks mtj
08:13 mtj ^..ive used that script for authority import, it works well  :0)
08:13 ashimema it's been ages sin'ce i've looked at those scripts ;)
08:13 smon ok thx mtj
08:13 smon i am thinking about using that or
08:14 mtj np ashimema :)
08:14 ashimema cait knows about stage-marc-import
08:14 smon i was just wondering what ashimema's `might` in quotations was supposed to indicate :D
08:14 ashimema the two importers 'should' match each other for functionality.. but they do sometimes fall out of sync
08:14 mtj smon, they basically do the same thing - commandline script is more 'reliable' (ive found)
08:15 ashimema it was supposed to indicate that I couldn't remember if it handled authorities as well as biblio's
08:15 smon i see
08:15 ashimema mtj, you realise you can use the stage scripts from the commmand line too right ;)
08:15 smon no, i already produced my own authority files and uploaded them to koha
08:15 smon that worked quite well so far
08:16 mtj ashimema: hmm, i dont think ive used those scripts via cli, thanks
08:16 eythian @later tell marcelr in case you need help with the language,[…]89242044610936832
08:16 huginn eythian: The operation succeeded.
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08:17 ashimema cait uses them regularly for their union catalogue stuff I believe ;)
08:19 Joubu atheia: sorry I thought the 2 bugs were regressions, but they and enh indeed, feel free to ignore them!
08:19 ashimema hehe
08:20 smon ok, so b) I will have to see if the scripts do what I want, but for a) transforming loc's rdf into marc I'd have to write something myself?
08:21 Joubu are*
08:22 ashimema I'm sure there's somthink out there to do the rdf -> marc21? conversion already.. but not sure who wold be best to ask
08:23 smon ok
08:23 smon where should I leave a note? :D
08:23 atheia Joubu ah, yeah — no they are enhancements.  They make sense.  I have them on my 'when I get a chance' pile :-)
08:33 smon aaaand another question: what about the loc's update feed ( is there a tool to crawl that and update koha/generate marc authority records?
08:35 smon ah wait, the feed already lists marcxml records, nevermind
08:41 atheia bug 17472 should be ready for signoff :-)
08:41 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=17472 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, alex.sassmannshausen, Needs Signoff , Borrower Previously Checked Out: Display title
08:41 atheia (that was the easy one — though both are quite trivial).
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08:59 ashimema tuits :)
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09:05 * LibraryClaire is finally dry
09:05 LibraryClaire Germany rained on me
09:08 eythian <-- LibraryClaire, it does that
09:09 LibraryClaire eek
09:13 * LibraryClaire makes note not to get a ground floor apartment
09:20 eythian that was summer, too.
09:20 eythian (and I'd taken the wrong bus by accident.)
09:25 LibraryClaire I took the wrong bus the other week
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09:36 eythian I don't recommend it, you end up in the wrong place.
09:37 * cait doesn't know what she is talking about
09:38 cait i got here safe and dry :)
09:55 drojf @wunder txl
09:55 huginn drojf: The current temperature in Rue du Capitaine Jean Maridor, Berlin, Germany is 8.1°C (11:50 AM CEST on October 21, 2016). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 97%. Dew Point: 8.0°C. Windchill: 8.0°C. Pressure: 29.89 in 1012 hPa (Steady).
09:56 eythian @wunder ams
09:56 huginn eythian: The current temperature in Schiphol, Badhoevedorp, Netherlands is 9.8°C (11:42 AM CEST on October 21, 2016). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 92%. Dew Point: 8.0°C. Windchill: 10.0°C. Pressure: 30.01 in 1016 hPa (Steady).
09:56 eythian warming up
10:05 alex_a Does anyone know if the borrowers.updated_on column is visible anywhere in koha ?
10:09 Joubu see bug 16276, no it's not
10:09 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=16276 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Master , When automatically deleting expired borrowers, make sure they didn't log in recently
10:09 drojf @later tell rangi can you kick from BZ?
10:09 huginn drojf: The operation succeeded.
10:18 drojf Joubu++
10:18 drojf bug 17476 fixes the koha nightlies. it's trivial, could someone qa it please?
10:18 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=17476 normal, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Signed Off , Failed test 'Create DateTime with dt_from_string() for 2100-01-01 with TZ in less than 2s'
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10:56 * AndrewIsh thinks his coding buddy isn't pulling his weight today
11:03 drojf AndrewIsh: getting done more than i do
11:04 AndrewIsh drojf: lol
11:17 * cait waves
11:37 * AndrewIsh waves back at cait
11:42 eythian[…]2016/10/tasks.gif <-- AndrewIsh, it's because you're working as a team.
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12:30 tcohen hola #koha
12:31 LibraryClaire hola tcohen
12:31 tcohen =D
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12:32 rsantellan good morning #koha
12:33 tcohen hola rsantellan
12:33 AndrewIsh eythian: aha, *that's* what it is ;-)
12:34 AndrewIsh hola tcohen
12:34 drojf later #koha
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12:37 oleonard Hi all
12:37 LibraryClaire hallo oleonard
12:38 tcohen hi oleonard
12:38 wahanui hi oleopard
12:40 LibraryClaire :D
12:43 oleonard Someone please ban from Bugzilla >:(
12:44 tcohen cait: ?
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12:47 ashimema love that meme eythian
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12:50 AndrewIsh hi oleonard
12:50 wahanui hi oleopard
12:51 tcohen hehehe
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13:25 tcohen hi jenkins_koha
13:42 rsantellan one little question, are the koha jenkin project setup available somewhere?
13:42 * magnuse hopes bug 17427 shows up in a stable release soon
13:42 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=17427 normal, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Signed Off , Replace CGI::Session with Data::Session
13:44 tcohen magnuse: have you tested it?
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13:46 AndrewIsh quick question that i couldn't find the answer to on the wiki. when creating a template for the admin interface, where would new css styles be added?
13:46 tcohen staff-global.css maybe?
13:47 AndrewIsh tcohen: aha! that looks promising, despite finding the directory in which it lives, i somehow missed that particular file...
13:47 ashimema lol
13:48 tcohen koha-tmpl/intranet-tmpl/prog/css
13:48 tcohen he, ok
13:48 AndrewIsh i guess it's just a case of appending new style definitions to the end? there doesn't appear to be any particular structure to that file
13:49 oleonard Correct
13:49 tcohen well, we try to put things together
13:49 tcohen even though there is no structure
13:49 eythian @wunder ams
13:49 huginn eythian: The current temperature in Schiphol, Badhoevedorp, Netherlands is 14.1°C (3:48 PM CEST on October 21, 2016). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 68%. Dew Point: 8.0°C. Pressure: 29.98 in 1015 hPa (Steady).
13:50 AndrewIsh ok, sounds good. i'll keep all my styles together and keep their scope suitably small :)
13:50 AndrewIsh thanks both
13:50 tcohen the best advise is that you ask oleonard :-P
13:51 oleonard AndrewIsh: I plan to convert staff-global.css to Sass, and that would be a good time to re-think how to manage our CSS in a more modular way if it makes sense for us to do so
13:51 AndrewIsh tcohen: indeed, i'm finding that's the case for most things i'm asking, he really is a fount of all knowledge
13:52 AndrewIsh oleonard: sounds like a good plan :)
13:52 oleonard AndrewIsh: I'd be interested to hear if you have opinions about it based on your non-Koha work
13:53 AndrewIsh oleonard: only that i wish i'd adopted it at the start of the project rather than thinking about it 18 months in, so my css bears an uncanny resemblance to staff-global.css, only slightly less structure...
13:53 AndrewIsh oleonard: a conversion to LESS is on my to-do list too...
13:54 AndrewIsh s/LESS/Sass/
13:54 oleonard Yeah LESS doesn't appear to have a future
13:55 AndrewIsh oleonard: indeed, Sass does seem to be in favour, that is, until another CSS preprocessor comes along
13:57 * ashimema for a moment wonders why we have serverside session storage at all
13:57 * LibraryClaire wants to learn about Sass
13:57 * ashimema reads mojolicious::sessions for inspiration to session management and how it relates to bug 17427
13:57 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=17427 normal, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Signed Off , Replace CGI::Session with Data::Session
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13:59 eythian ashimema: what would you have other than server side session storage?
13:59 AndrewIsh LibraryClaire: it's awesome, makes CSS considerably less of a nightmare to create / maintain :)
13:59 eythian if you want to load all session data into a cookie, well, I won't talk to you any more :P
13:59 LibraryClaire cool! :D
14:00 * AndrewIsh realises he somehow has never worked with YUI and suddenly realises he needs to, off to read the docs...
14:00 eythian no you don't
14:00 eythian you don't want to do that
14:01 * ashimema wonders what eythian find so offensive about cookies?
14:01 eythian cookies are fine, but they're not the place to cram all session data
14:01 Joubu cookies are not good with beers
14:01 eythian just a token that accesses the local session storage.
14:02 eythian wahanui: cookies
14:02 wahanui Cookies are delicious delicacies
14:02 ashimema what session data do we actually need.. I'm trying to remember what we do with our sessions ;)
14:02 eythian probably not a lot :)
14:02 eythian but there's also safety concerns
14:03 eythian there have been popular systems where, well, guess what happened when someone set a cookie "admin=1"
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14:03 * ashimema relies happily on signed hmac cookies
14:03 eythian yes, that's good.
14:03 eythian Also, they take up network space unnecessarily.
14:03 eythian because they have to go back, forth, back, forth, every request.
14:04 ashimema in fact.. I don't use cookies at all in my other project.. we use jwt bearer tokens and are in general stateless
14:04 ashimema (we don't do search history or the likes in those apps)
14:05 * AndrewIsh immediately goes cross-eyed reading the YUI docs and decides a cup of tea is in order...
14:05 eythian AndrewIsh: told you so
14:05 * ashimema should really look into our sessions system in koha.. remind myself exactly what we need such sessions for.. I'm sure there's 'a better way' ;)
14:05 AndrewIsh eythian: you were *so* right...
14:06 * eythian sees no upsides to client-side session storage, expect when you have a specific need to keep the server as stateless as possible.
14:11 oleonard AndrewIsh: You only need to know about the YUI grid. https://wiki.koha-community.or[…]erns#Page_layouts
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14:13 AndrewIsh oleonard: oooooh! that's exactly the sort of thing i was looking for! thanks :) trying to disassemble existing markup (with all the TT conditionals) to figure out the YUI grid structure was proving somewhat tedious
14:14 Joubu tcohen: do you remember why WWW::CSRF and Sereal are not packaged?
14:17 * ashimema sees no upsides to server-side session storage, except when you have specific need to have state on the server ;)
14:17 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 17477: Duplicating a subfield yields an empty subfield tag <[…]066ca1ebad169a5b6> / Bug 10337: (followup) Upper case MARC flavour <[…]b4cbbd0a295bbaaf5> / Bug 10337: (QA followup) Allow choosing MARC flavour <
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14:22 * ashimema thinks he's got too into the world of REST and having clientside and serverside apps developed independently
14:27 oleonard Is the UpdateNotForLoanStatusOnCheckin system preference not working? Doesn't look like it is to me.
14:28 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 17393: Fix non-Latin chars handling in self reg <[…]f7168cd36b40d7941>
14:32 LibraryClaire see ya laters #koha
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14:38 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 17426: Do not set AutoCommit in tests <[…]cd1a7eb64a2ecc9f6> / Bug 17405 Edit record uses Default framework <[…]0404fa5b3b2aa8651>
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14:46 oleonard Oh I see, the UpdateNotForLoanStatusOnCheckin *must* have a space after the colon. That seems very picky (and not obvious from the description)
14:48 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 10455 - DBRev <[…]5bc1c6529feaddf0c> / Bug 10455 (QA Followup) <[…]0517d8f26512a1c71> / Bug 10455: Fix tests <[…]b24e934a3af7c73de> / Bug 10455: Remove MARC
14:58 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 16245: [QA Follow-up] Replace typeofrecord2 by biblevel <[…]c2ad472769e79e148> / Bug 16245: RIS export file type incorrect <[…]c13274c0e41497472> / Bug 17368: Update KitchenSinkPlugin.kpz <[…]a=commitdiff;h=6f
15:10 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 17411: Remove 3 other occurrences of exit 1 <[…]fbdeeaaedd9703382> / Bug 17411 - Change exit 1 to exit 0 in acqui/ to prevent Internal Server... <[…]f7a91fa4a45a90668> / Bug 16687 - Translatability: Fix issues in Administration preferences <http:
15:20 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 17249: GetKohaAuthorisedValuesFromField - rm GetAuthValCodeFromField <[…]e1b7639be56058a26> / Bug 17249: Remove GetKohaAuthorisedValuesFromField <[…]261a8831f2cd4ecaf> / Bug 17249: Remove GetKohaAuthorisedValuesFromField - (follow-up) inventory <http://gi
15:20 ashimema huginn soup
15:20 huginn ashimema: I'll give you the answer as soon as RDA is ready
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15:33 oleonard Is it possible to seach the OPAC and exclude a certain collection code or itemtype in your query?
15:35 tcohen oleonard: yes
15:36 tcohen that's what advanced search does
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15:38 * LibraryClaire waves
15:39 oleonard tcohen: Advanced search with "more options" gives the option of using "not" for keyword, title, etc, but not for ccode or itemtype
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15:41 tcohen oleonard: what are you trying to do, specifically?
15:41 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 17251: Koha::AuthorisedValues - Remove GetKohaAuthorisedValuesMapping <[…]750ad58df2c25c744> / Bug 17250: Do not retrieve marc subfield structure when the authorised value is not... <[…]d8e19ba3e24519757> / Bug 17250 - Koha::AuthorisedValues - Remove GetA
15:42 oleonard tcohen: I would like to design a search by keyword which excludes results with a specific item type
15:42 tcohen alrigth
15:49 ashimema tcohen.. cities fixed :)
15:50 ashimema I was wrong :D  Swagger is ok, i was just testing the wrong thing :S
15:50 ashimema so.. no need to package a new json-validator or swagger2..
15:50 ashimema I've added the alteration to the test in a followup.. would apreciate your final thoughts :)
15:51 tcohen ok
15:51 tcohen I'll review it today
15:51 tcohen so Kyla can push it :-D
15:51 ashimema :)
16:00 reiveune bye
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16:02 tcohen farewell, biblioitems.marc
16:03 ashimema :D
16:03 * ashimema hopes his comments didn't stall that one
16:04 tcohen ashimema: it is pushed AFAICT
16:05 ashimema oh.. i'm thinking about the wrong bug
16:05 ashimema biblioitems.marcxml ;)
16:05 ashimema bug 17196
16:06 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=17196 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Needs Signoff , Move marcxml out of the biblioitems table
16:10 AndrewIsh the weekend has arrived, bye #koha!
16:11 tcohen ashimema:[…]e/
16:15 tcohen ashimema: you can find this line -         $env->{REMOTE_ADDR} = $ip;
16:16 tcohen it does the job
16:16 LibraryClaire bye AndrewIsh!
16:22 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 17318: Allow chosing fixed normalization routines <[…]64341561dd40df3a5> / Bug 17318: Make C4::Matcher::_get_match_keys handle 'norms' param <[…]1669b0a08138745d1> / Bug 17318: Unit tests <[…]a=commitdiff;h=a0
16:34 oleonard What is the guideline for when one can mark something as closed/fixed? Is it reserved for release maintainers?
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16:36 paul_p magnuse : are you here ?
16:36 paul_p (hello #koha)
16:37 LibraryClaire hi paul_p :)
16:40 paul_p !seen magnuse
16:40 paul_p @seen magnuse
16:40 huginn paul_p: magnuse was last seen in #koha 2 hours, 57 minutes, and 58 seconds ago: * magnuse hopes bug 17427 shows up in a stable release soon
16:42 paul_p meliss_lunch good lunch ! almost dinner time for me :D
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17:02 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 16907: Make sure the log will be written only if the patron has been deleted <[…]e5bae3af65a8d08c4> / Bug 16907: Koha::Patrons - Move HandleDelBorrower to ->delete <[…]c5bdd2fe4010ad4b1> / Bug 16907: Koha::Patrons - Move DelMember to ->delete <http://git.
17:16 meliss paul_p lunch was very good.  Yes, almost dinner time for you
17:16 tcohen hi paul_p
17:23 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 17445: Move the params check after the authentication check <[…]a086407ecfb1cbae1> / Bug 17445: Just some refactoring <[…]499f3fab77356005a> / Bug 17445: Add 'malformed query' error response <[…]it;a=commitdiff;h
17:23 paul_p hi tcohen. back to Argentina/home without any trouble ?
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17:34 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 16965: Allow Koha::Objects->result_class <[…]896a3af5553bf7875> / Bug 16965: [Follow-up] Adjust get_object_class <[…]128e6b8d1a34c463e> / Bug 16965: search_related returns an instanciated Koha::Objects-based object <
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17:45 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 17425: Add the Object::MethodNotCoveredByTests exception <[…]82ee97685f1841d48> / Bug 17425: Add Try::Tiny dependency <[…]fc202e5c200f0575b> / Bug 17425: Make Koha::Object raise exceptions <[…];a=commitdiff;h=7
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18:13 oleonard Want:[…]inify::JavaScript
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18:25 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 17425 [QA Followup] - Remove superfluous tests <[…]6ea8dd4e38b85aa96>
18:25 ashimema[…]Plugin::AssetPack
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18:30 oleonard ashimema: I like the idea of the template plugin because we embed a lot of JS right in the template when our JS depends on template variables
18:37 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 5670 - DBRev <[…]7911f7e14e77cf951> / Bug 5670: Add a confirmation message on delete <[…]e1242b8c1d96b5384> / Bug 5670: Use the fa icon for the save button <[…]8e92f895919f8f718
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18:58 oleonard I thought we had a bug report for removing Mozilla Persona support but I can't find it
19:00 oleonard bye #koha, happy weekend
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21:37 rangi @later tell drojf I cant delete the user, because they have made changes on bugs
21:37 huginn rangi: The operation succeeded.
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21:57 * cait waves
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22:18 bag hmm looks like kyle was pushing today :)
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