IRC log for #koha, 2016-09-19

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00:02 mtompset joined #koha
00:03 mtompset Greetings, #koha.
00:06 mtompset I have a strange request.
00:06 mtompset[…]ing_agreement.pdf
00:07 mtompset I request that OpenLX be removed from the support provider list, given that they merely pay lip service and not actually support the community.
00:08 rangi yeah thats not how it works
00:08 mtompset *sigh* Okay.
00:10 rangi once we start making value judgements, its a massive mess, and the only thing would be remove all
00:10 rangi they have a link, they offer koha services, thats all we say to get listed
00:10 mtompset Which we actually considered doing at one time.
00:10 rangi yeah that was voted down
00:11 rangi so not keen on revisiting
00:11 rangi and truth be told, it won't change anything
00:11 rangi apart from maybe make you feel better
00:12 mtompset Right... push the badness to a different location. :(
00:12 rangi most people don't even know that listing (whole koha website) even exist
00:12 rangi in the country where this is causing problems
00:13 mtompset Yes, LiveDVD country. *cringe*
00:13 rangi yup
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00:20 wizzyrea ^ what he said
00:20 mtompset Congrats on bumping me down to 5th on the 2016 signoff rankings, rangi.
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00:52 BobB rangi, wizzyrea, mtompset that crowd won't be around long; they don't have a viable business model
01:05 mtompset BobB: You didn't read the agreement did you? They custom code off Koha, and then don't contribute the patches, which means they keep charging people to reimplement their changes over and over and over when a version change breaks their custom code.
01:05 mtompset It's really scummy.
01:06 BobB ooh I did miss that bit
01:07 BobB yeah, scummy, but not long term viable either - except people sign up for 10 years!
01:07 BobB really?
01:07 wahanui really is more trouble than she's worth.
01:22 mtompset You would be surprised how many people don't read fine print.
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01:40 dcook They do warn that the customization won't be available for the next version, so that would certainly deter forward thinking people I imagine
01:43 dcook ' ..."Koha\'s initial FRBR implementation was sane."' (random quote from the dashboard)
01:44 rangi libraries don't deal in sane
01:44 dcook You can say that again
01:47 dcook Also from the dashboard:
01:47 dcook Barbara Walters05
01:48 mtompset dcook: LiveDVD users aren't usually forward thinking types.
01:48 dcook mtompset: No, but I imagine that company don't use LiveDVDs?
01:48 dcook Although nothing should surprise me anymore
01:48 mtompset You would be surprised. It's in the land of LiveDVDs.
01:49 dcook It seems that would be rather inefficient though, although yeah... I should remember the world doesn't work on efficiency
01:50 mtompset Who is nelsonf?
01:50 mtompset dashboard quote: < nelsonf> I'm pretty sure I deleted this one in the name of being thorough...
01:50 mtompset That must be a pre-2012 quote.
01:50 mtompset @seen nelsonf
01:50 huginn mtompset: nelsonf was last seen in #koha 6 years, 22 weeks, 1 day, 4 hours, 48 minutes, and 22 seconds ago: <nelsonf> thanks chris, I'll look into virtualbox.  hope my little laptop can handle it :-)
01:51 mtompset Bingo. :)
01:51 dcook ?
01:54 mtompset 2016-6 = 2010. I was right about pre-2012. :)
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02:58 mtompset Have a great day (24 hour period), #koha dcook rangi wizzyrea
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06:07 dcook tfw you look at the clock and see it's already after 4pm :p
06:07 dcook The Europeans should be here any moment!
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06:18 * magnuse waves
06:18 * dcook waves with one hand while his child devours his other
06:19 dcook sharp little demon teeth...
06:19 magnuse hehe
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06:38 alex_a bonjour
06:42 dcook magnuse: That libris rdf server managed to take down my entire browser :p
06:43 magnuse dcook: nice!
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06:46 reiveune hello
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06:51 fridolin hie
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07:11 eythian hi
07:11 wahanui bidet, eythian
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07:20 dcook hey eythian
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07:20 dcook eythian: Is gouda with cumin actually a thing in Amsterdam, or is that just for tourists? :p
07:24 * dcook heads off for dinner
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07:28 drojf morning #koha
07:28 magnuse moin drojf
07:29 drojf hei magnuse
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07:29 drojf only 3 weeks left until marseille :O
07:30 magnuse \o/
07:30 eythian dcook: you can get all manner of things like that, it wouldn't surprise me if that was one of them.
07:30 magnuse @wunder boo
07:30 huginn magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 13.0°C (9:20 AM CEST on September 19, 2016). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 100%. Dew Point: 13.0°C. Pressure: 30.06 in 1018 hPa (Steady).
07:30 magnuse @wunder marseille
07:30 huginn magnuse: The current temperature in Lotissement le Pitalugue, Vitrolles, France is 18.7°C (9:25 AM CEST on September 19, 2016). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 72%. Dew Point: 14.0°C. Pressure: 29.91 in 1013 hPa (Rising).
07:31 eythian @wunder ams
07:31 huginn eythian: The current temperature in Schiphol, Badhoevedorp, Netherlands is 15.4°C (9:27 AM CEST on September 19, 2016). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 85%. Dew Point: 13.0°C. Pressure: 30.12 in 1020 hPa (Steady).
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07:32 drojf hi eythian
07:32 drojf @wunder berlin, germany
07:32 huginn drojf: The current temperature in Berlin Tegel, Germany is 15.0°C (9:20 AM CEST on September 19, 2016). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 59%. Dew Point: 7.0°C. Pressure: 30.04 in 1017 hPa (Steady).
07:33 drojf dinner tonight with joann, then i have to let her go. more nz people should come to berlin, they are all so nice
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07:35 gaetan_B hello
07:35 wahanui salut, gaetan_B
07:36 drojf hi gaetan_B
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08:49 * cait1 waves
08:49 drojf hi cait
08:49 drojf i wrote you a while ago
08:49 drojf i gues that did not work
08:49 eythian hi drojf, cait1
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09:14 ashimema @seen tcohen
09:14 huginn ashimema: tcohen was last seen in #koha 2 days, 20 hours, 30 minutes, and 56 seconds ago: <tcohen> hi nengard
09:15 eythian @seen ashimema
09:15 huginn eythian: ashimema was last seen in #koha 1 minute and 13 seconds ago: <ashimema> @seen tcohen
09:15 eythian I was hoping maybe it'd reply to itself
09:15 ashimema hehe
09:16 ashimema how are you eythian?
09:16 * cait1 waves
09:16 ashimema morning cait1
09:16 eythian I'm fine. Back to work after having some holiday time, so it's hard to be much better than just "fine" :)
09:16 ashimema lol
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09:30 eythian In case you feel like visiting me, here's an excuse: "YAPC::EU in Amsterdam will take place from 8 till 11 August 2017. As venue we have contracted B.Amsterdam. We expect 350 up to 500 participants, and already have affirmation of some eminent speakers!"
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09:42 ashimema :)
09:42 ashimema I like the idea
09:43 ashimema there's a bunch of people out there I'd like to meet who tend to attend a few of these conferences..  I've never managed to attend one myself yet :(
09:43 cait1 then change it :)
09:58 Joubu cait1: around?
09:58 cait1 yep
09:59 cait1 sorry for the double up - i think the other laptop is connected too
09:59 Joubu cait1: hi! Thanks for your QA work this week-end :)
09:59 cait1 i tried hard to get a 5 in front
09:59 cait1 failed on that... but some things are gone
09:59 Joubu cait1: bug 17216: what's the issue with STACK?
09:59 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=17216 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Failed QA , Add a new table to store authorized value categories
09:59 Joubu when editing items
10:00 cait1 ah
10:00 cait1 it just has no values by default
10:00 cait1 so you get a list with 'no match found' or something
10:00 cait1 which irritated me a bit
10:00 cait1 and i wondered if we should just kill it
10:01 Joubu no idea...
10:02 Joubu I don't understand why the behavior is different in master actually
10:02 Joubu if the field is mapped with a AV and there are no AV, what happens?
10:05 cait1 the new pull down thing
10:05 cait1 it just looks differnt than before
10:05 cait1 it's not a bad thing or a blocker
10:05 cait1 i was just noting that it doesn't make a lot of sense
10:06 cait1 as we have no sample values for STACK and noone seems to know what it's for
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11:41 cait1 Joubu: TODO is to be done soon?
11:42 cait1 deleting authorised value categories you no longer need :)
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11:42 cait1 I think it would be good to have it before release ideally
11:43 oleonard Hi all
11:43 cait1 hi oleonard :)
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11:54 khall first time I make it to the airport with plenty of time to spare and my flght has been delayed : \
11:55 oleonard Where you off to khall ?
11:56 khall Denver, ByWater staff retreat
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11:58 oleonard Nice. The closest we get to a staff retreat is retreating to a meeting room for a day.
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12:38 rsantellan Hi, good morning. Can anybody knows a way to show on the log all the sql runned?
12:39 rsantellan I have seen the https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]_bug.cgi?id=16329
12:39 huginn Bug 16329: enhancement, P5 - low, ---, olli-antti.kivilahti, Needs Signoff , Koha::Logger->sql(). Unified interface to log SQL statements OR use DBIx::Log4perl
12:40 rsantellan there is no way to do it globally?
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12:43 tcohen mornin!
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12:45 paul_p tcohen = 'morning
12:45 tcohen hi paul_p !
12:46 paul_p tcohen = could you mail me & claire your arrival & departure information ? (to organize the pick-up, going to the flat,...)
12:46 paul_p tcohen = oleonard arrives on sunday 10:10AM
12:47 * oleonard crosses his fingers for luck
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12:48 * cait1 waves
12:48 JesseM Hi cait
12:48 JesseM cait1
12:48 JesseM :D
12:48 cait1 hi JesseM :)
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13:32 * ashimema finally booked his train and hotel for hackfest :)
13:32 * ashimema looks forward to seeing everyone again.. and remembering how koha fits together :p
13:34 oleonard I don't have to prove to ashimema that I'm not a chatbot, we've met in person. Still have to convince magnuse though.
13:34 ashimema lol
13:34 eythian but ashimema is a chatbot.
13:35 ashimema he is?
13:35 ashimema I wondered what was wrong with me all this time..
13:35 ashimema it makes perfect sense now
13:35 oleonard the person I met who claimed to have been ashimema could have been an actor hired on Cragslist by the ashimema chatbot AI
13:36 eythian like most people on IRC, he's really just a markov chain
13:36 oleonard that must be why I thought I saw ashimema playing a dead body on an episode of Law & Order: SVU.
13:37 * ashimema is slightly disturbed that he was just called a mathematical construct
13:38 ashimema moving on
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13:44 eythian ashimema: try to deny it, I bet you can't as no one has before, so you have no chain entries to do so with!
13:44 eythian ha! foiled!
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13:54 ashimema it does not compute
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14:15 * tcohen is not sure the guy he met in REno was actually oleonard
14:18 ashimema lol
14:24 * oleonard packs the Voight-Kampff machine
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15:10 tcohen @seen drojf
15:10 huginn tcohen: drojf was last seen in #koha 6 hours, 20 minutes, and 57 seconds ago: <drojf> i gues that did not work
15:13 drojf hi tcohen
15:13 drojf you rang?
15:13 tcohen hi, yes
15:13 eythian he was talking about you, not to you.
15:14 tcohen i got some 404
15:14 tcohen on your nightly
15:14 drojf oh
15:14 drojf like where?
15:14 wahanui like is, like, hard to say, could adapt to yes, but doesn't feel intuitive
15:14 drojf or everywhere?
15:14 wahanui everywhere is a suburb
15:14 tcohen
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15:16 oleonard wahanui is sassy today
15:21 drojf tcohen: thanks. not really time to look into this atm. i'll reboot the server and see if that helps for now
15:21 tcohen drojf: let me know if there's anything I can help with
15:28 bag
15:28 bag Are ya ready to party like pirates?
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15:32 drojf tcohen: works for me
15:32 tcohen oh
15:32 drojf does it work for you too now?
15:33 drojf else you might be missing the koha-nightly part in the deb url? i managed to miss that first when i tried
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15:40 reiveune bye
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15:55 * oleonard snarks a snarky snark to himself
16:12 tcohen drojf:
16:14 drojf tcohen: can you open[…]ry-amd64/Packages in a browser?
16:15 tcohen yes
16:16 tcohen apt update
16:16 tcohen still fails
16:16 tcohen can you paste the logs somewhere?
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16:27 drojf tcohen: sorry got to go. can you try again and @later or email me if it worked? i'll check the logs later if it does not
16:27 drojf bye #koha
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17:51 tcohen anyone has kohadevbox open now?
17:51 tcohen need to test something
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19:47 rangi morning
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20:48 magnuse night
20:53 JesseM night magnuse
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