Time Nick Message 00:03 mtompset Greetings, #koha. 00:06 mtompset I have a strange request. 00:06 mtompset http://www.bestbookbuddies.com:8080/register/library_hosting_agreement.pdf 00:07 mtompset I request that OpenLX be removed from the support provider list, given that they merely pay lip service and not actually support the community. 00:08 rangi yeah thats not how it works 00:08 mtompset *sigh* Okay. 00:10 rangi once we start making value judgements, its a massive mess, and the only thing would be remove all 00:10 rangi they have a link, they offer koha services, thats all we say to get listed 00:10 mtompset Which we actually considered doing at one time. 00:10 rangi yeah that was voted down 00:11 rangi so not keen on revisiting 00:11 rangi and truth be told, it won't change anything 00:11 rangi apart from maybe make you feel better 00:12 mtompset Right... push the badness to a different location. :( 00:12 rangi most people don't even know that listing (whole koha website) even exist 00:12 rangi in the country where this is causing problems 00:13 mtompset Yes, LiveDVD country. *cringe* 00:13 rangi yup 00:20 wizzyrea ^ what he said 00:20 mtompset Congrats on bumping me down to 5th on the 2016 signoff rankings, rangi. 00:52 BobB rangi, wizzyrea, mtompset that crowd won't be around long; they don't have a viable business model 01:05 mtompset BobB: You didn't read the agreement did you? They custom code off Koha, and then don't contribute the patches, which means they keep charging people to reimplement their changes over and over and over when a version change breaks their custom code. 01:05 mtompset It's really scummy. 01:06 BobB ooh I did miss that bit 01:07 BobB yeah, scummy, but not long term viable either - except people sign up for 10 years! 01:07 BobB really? 01:07 wahanui really is more trouble than she's worth. 01:22 mtompset You would be surprised how many people don't read fine print. 01:40 dcook They do warn that the customization won't be available for the next version, so that would certainly deter forward thinking people I imagine 01:43 dcook ' ..."Koha\'s initial FRBR implementation was sane."' (random quote from the dashboard) 01:44 rangi libraries don't deal in sane 01:44 dcook You can say that again 01:47 dcook Also from the dashboard: 01:47 dcook Barbara Walters 0 5 01:48 mtompset dcook: LiveDVD users aren't usually forward thinking types. 01:48 dcook mtompset: No, but I imagine that company don't use LiveDVDs? 01:48 dcook Although nothing should surprise me anymore 01:48 mtompset You would be surprised. It's in the land of LiveDVDs. 01:49 dcook It seems that would be rather inefficient though, although yeah... I should remember the world doesn't work on efficiency 01:50 mtompset Who is nelsonf? 01:50 mtompset dashboard quote: < nelsonf> I'm pretty sure I deleted this one in the name of being thorough... 01:50 mtompset That must be a pre-2012 quote. 01:50 mtompset @seen nelsonf 01:50 huginn mtompset: nelsonf was last seen in #koha 6 years, 22 weeks, 1 day, 4 hours, 48 minutes, and 22 seconds ago: <nelsonf> thanks chris, I'll look into virtualbox. hope my little laptop can handle it :-) 01:51 mtompset Bingo. :) 01:51 dcook ? 01:54 mtompset 2016-6 = 2010. I was right about pre-2012. :) 02:58 mtompset Have a great day (24 hour period), #koha dcook rangi wizzyrea 06:07 dcook tfw you look at the clock and see it's already after 4pm :p 06:07 dcook The Europeans should be here any moment! 06:18 * magnuse waves 06:18 * dcook waves with one hand while his child devours his other 06:19 dcook sharp little demon teeth... 06:19 magnuse hehe 06:38 alex_a bonjour 06:42 dcook magnuse: That libris rdf server managed to take down my entire browser :p 06:43 magnuse dcook: nice! 06:46 reiveune hello 06:51 fridolin hie 07:11 eythian hi 07:11 wahanui bidet, eythian 07:20 dcook hey eythian 07:20 dcook eythian: Is gouda with cumin actually a thing in Amsterdam, or is that just for tourists? :p 07:24 * dcook heads off for dinner 07:28 drojf morning #koha 07:28 magnuse moin drojf 07:29 drojf hei magnuse 07:29 drojf only 3 weeks left until marseille :O 07:30 magnuse \o/ 07:30 eythian dcook: you can get all manner of things like that, it wouldn't surprise me if that was one of them. 07:30 magnuse @wunder boo 07:30 huginn magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 13.0°C (9:20 AM CEST on September 19, 2016). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 100%. Dew Point: 13.0°C. Pressure: 30.06 in 1018 hPa (Steady). 07:30 magnuse @wunder marseille 07:30 huginn magnuse: The current temperature in Lotissement le Pitalugue, Vitrolles, France is 18.7°C (9:25 AM CEST on September 19, 2016). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 72%. Dew Point: 14.0°C. Pressure: 29.91 in 1013 hPa (Rising). 07:31 eythian @wunder ams 07:31 huginn eythian: The current temperature in Schiphol, Badhoevedorp, Netherlands is 15.4°C (9:27 AM CEST on September 19, 2016). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 85%. Dew Point: 13.0°C. Pressure: 30.12 in 1020 hPa (Steady). 07:32 drojf hi eythian 07:32 drojf @wunder berlin, germany 07:32 huginn drojf: The current temperature in Berlin Tegel, Germany is 15.0°C (9:20 AM CEST on September 19, 2016). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 59%. Dew Point: 7.0°C. Pressure: 30.04 in 1017 hPa (Steady). 07:33 drojf dinner tonight with joann, then i have to let her go. more nz people should come to berlin, they are all so nice 07:35 gaetan_B hello 07:35 wahanui salut, gaetan_B 07:36 drojf hi gaetan_B 08:49 * cait1 waves 08:49 drojf hi cait 08:49 drojf i wrote you a while ago 08:49 drojf i gues that did not work 08:49 eythian hi drojf, cait1 09:14 ashimema @seen tcohen 09:14 huginn ashimema: tcohen was last seen in #koha 2 days, 20 hours, 30 minutes, and 56 seconds ago: <tcohen> hi nengard 09:15 eythian @seen ashimema 09:15 huginn eythian: ashimema was last seen in #koha 1 minute and 13 seconds ago: <ashimema> @seen tcohen 09:15 eythian I was hoping maybe it'd reply to itself 09:15 ashimema hehe 09:16 ashimema how are you eythian? 09:16 * cait1 waves 09:16 ashimema morning cait1 09:16 eythian I'm fine. Back to work after having some holiday time, so it's hard to be much better than just "fine" :) 09:16 ashimema lol 09:30 eythian In case you feel like visiting me, here's an excuse: "YAPC::EU in Amsterdam will take place from 8 till 11 August 2017. As venue we have contracted B.Amsterdam. We expect 350 up to 500 participants, and already have affirmation of some eminent speakers!" 09:42 ashimema :) 09:42 ashimema I like the idea 09:43 ashimema there's a bunch of people out there I'd like to meet who tend to attend a few of these conferences.. I've never managed to attend one myself yet :( 09:43 cait1 then change it :) 09:58 Joubu cait1: around? 09:58 cait1 yep 09:59 cait1 sorry for the double up - i think the other laptop is connected too 09:59 Joubu cait1: hi! Thanks for your QA work this week-end :) 09:59 cait1 i tried hard to get a 5 in front 09:59 cait1 failed on that... but some things are gone 09:59 Joubu cait1: bug 17216: what's the issue with STACK? 09:59 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=17216 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Failed QA , Add a new table to store authorized value categories 09:59 Joubu when editing items 10:00 cait1 ah 10:00 cait1 it just has no values by default 10:00 cait1 so you get a list with 'no match found' or something 10:00 cait1 which irritated me a bit 10:00 cait1 and i wondered if we should just kill it 10:01 Joubu no idea... 10:02 Joubu I don't understand why the behavior is different in master actually 10:02 Joubu if the field is mapped with a AV and there are no AV, what happens? 10:05 cait1 the new pull down thing 10:05 cait1 it just looks differnt than before 10:05 cait1 it's not a bad thing or a blocker 10:05 cait1 i was just noting that it doesn't make a lot of sense 10:06 cait1 as we have no sample values for STACK and noone seems to know what it's for 11:41 cait1 Joubu: TODO is to be done soon? 11:42 cait1 deleting authorised value categories you no longer need :) 11:42 cait1 I think it would be good to have it before release ideally 11:43 oleonard Hi all 11:43 cait1 hi oleonard :) 11:54 khall first time I make it to the airport with plenty of time to spare and my flght has been delayed : \ 11:55 oleonard Where you off to khall ? 11:56 khall Denver, ByWater staff retreat 11:58 oleonard Nice. The closest we get to a staff retreat is retreating to a meeting room for a day. 12:38 rsantellan Hi, good morning. Can anybody knows a way to show on the log all the sql runned? 12:39 rsantellan I have seen the https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=16329 12:39 huginn 04Bug 16329: enhancement, P5 - low, ---, olli-antti.kivilahti, Needs Signoff , Koha::Logger->sql(). Unified interface to log SQL statements OR use DBIx::Log4perl 12:40 rsantellan there is no way to do it globally? 12:43 tcohen mornin! 12:45 paul_p tcohen = 'morning 12:45 tcohen hi paul_p ! 12:46 paul_p tcohen = could you mail me & claire your arrival & departure information ? (to organize the pick-up, going to the flat,...) 12:46 paul_p tcohen = oleonard arrives on sunday 10:10AM 12:47 * oleonard crosses his fingers for luck 12:48 * cait1 waves 12:48 JesseM Hi cait 12:48 JesseM cait1 12:48 JesseM :D 12:48 cait1 hi JesseM :) 13:32 * ashimema finally booked his train and hotel for hackfest :) 13:32 * ashimema looks forward to seeing everyone again.. and remembering how koha fits together :p 13:34 oleonard I don't have to prove to ashimema that I'm not a chatbot, we've met in person. Still have to convince magnuse though. 13:34 ashimema lol 13:34 eythian but ashimema is a chatbot. 13:35 ashimema he is? 13:35 ashimema I wondered what was wrong with me all this time.. 13:35 ashimema it makes perfect sense now 13:35 oleonard the person I met who claimed to have been ashimema could have been an actor hired on Cragslist by the ashimema chatbot AI 13:36 eythian like most people on IRC, he's really just a markov chain 13:36 oleonard that must be why I thought I saw ashimema playing a dead body on an episode of Law & Order: SVU. 13:37 * ashimema is slightly disturbed that he was just called a mathematical construct 13:38 ashimema moving on 13:44 eythian ashimema: try to deny it, I bet you can't as no one has before, so you have no chain entries to do so with! 13:44 eythian ha! foiled! 13:54 ashimema it does not compute 14:15 * tcohen is not sure the guy he met in REno was actually oleonard 14:18 ashimema lol 14:24 * oleonard packs the Voight-Kampff machine 15:10 tcohen @seen drojf 15:10 huginn tcohen: drojf was last seen in #koha 6 hours, 20 minutes, and 57 seconds ago: <drojf> i gues that did not work 15:13 drojf hi tcohen 15:13 drojf you rang? 15:13 tcohen hi, yes 15:13 eythian he was talking about you, not to you. 15:14 tcohen i got some 404 15:14 tcohen on your nightly 15:14 drojf oh 15:14 drojf like where? 15:14 wahanui like is, like, hard to say, could adapt to yes, but doesn't feel intuitive 15:14 drojf or everywhere? 15:14 wahanui everywhere is a suburb 15:14 tcohen https://snag.gy/Mkhtrs.jpg 15:16 oleonard wahanui is sassy today 15:21 drojf tcohen: thanks. not really time to look into this atm. i'll reboot the server and see if that helps for now 15:21 tcohen drojf: let me know if there's anything I can help with 15:28 bag http://talklikeapirate.com/wordpress/ 15:28 bag Are ya ready to party like pirates? 15:32 drojf tcohen: works for me 15:32 tcohen oh 15:32 drojf does it work for you too now? 15:33 drojf else you might be missing the koha-nightly part in the deb url? https://apt.abunchofthings.net/koha-nightly. i managed to miss that first when i tried 15:40 reiveune bye 15:55 * oleonard snarks a snarky snark to himself 16:12 tcohen drojf: https://snag.gy/B9WK0v.jpg 16:14 drojf tcohen: can you open https://apt.abunchofthings.net/koha-nightly/dists/unstable/main/binary-amd64/Packages in a browser? 16:15 tcohen yes 16:16 tcohen apt update 16:16 tcohen still fails 16:16 tcohen can you paste the logs somewhere? 16:27 drojf tcohen: sorry got to go. can you try again and @later or email me if it worked? i'll check the logs later if it does not 16:27 drojf bye #koha 17:51 tcohen anyone has kohadevbox open now? 17:51 tcohen need to test something 19:47 rangi morning 20:48 magnuse night 20:53 JesseM night magnuse