IRC log for #koha, 2016-09-06

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05:28 magnuse kia ora dcook
05:28 sophie_m hi dcook and #koha
05:28 sophie_m and magnuse :)
05:29 magnuse bonjour sophie_m
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05:52 drojf morning #koha
06:07 magnuse moin drojf
06:09 drojf hei magnuse
06:11 * cait waves
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06:14 alex_a bonjour
06:17 * dcook waves to the Euro Kohaers
06:22 magnuse \o/
06:22 magnuse oh don't forget gbsd on friday!
06:24 drojf ~o~
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06:39 reiveune hello
06:40 magnuse bonjour reiveune
06:40 reiveune salut magnuse :)
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06:52 fridolin hie
06:56 mtj here's a question for the #channel.. is it a bug that jQuery code doesnt work, when pasted into a 'OpacMain' or 'OpacHeader' syspref?
06:57 mtj ..or have i just experienced a 'feature'
07:00 mtj ^ i think loading jquery.js a little bit earlier in the page, would fix that
07:03 Joubu jquery.js should already be loaded at this point
07:07 mtj hmm, no.. its loaded after OpacFooter' too
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07:10 mtj my nasty fix has been to manually load the jquery.js in the 'opacheader' syspref
07:10 mtj <script type="text/javascript" src="/opac-tmpl/bootstrap/lib​/jquery/jquery.js"></script>
07:11 mtj seems to work ok.. but i'd love to fix it properly
07:12 Joubu ha yes indeed, at the OPAC all the JS code is loaded at the end
07:14 mtj i've read thats its a 'recommended performance enhancement', to have JS moved to the end of the page..
07:14 mtj .. but, im curious if that also means _externally_ loaded *.js files too?
07:15 mtj perhaps we are doing it wrong, atm?
07:17 mtj some info...
07:17 wahanui some info is apparently drawn from from administration - libraries and groups, but other than that bg is right
07:17 mtj[…]script-load-time/
07:18 magnuse wahanui: forget some info
07:18 wahanui magnuse: I forgot some info
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07:32 mtj hey magnuse, thanks for the gbsd reminder ^, im planning to help out on friday :)
07:33 mtj[…]es.html#js_bottom
07:34 drojf how am i supposed to start a casual conversation about the world weather situation without huginn? :/
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07:40 Joubu LibraryClaire: Hi and thanks for you signoffs! :)
07:41 Joubu LibraryClaire: just a note: If something does not apply, switch the status to "does not apply"
07:41 LibraryClaire Joubu: Hi! :) no problem
07:41 LibraryClaire Joubu: will try to test again later hopefully
07:41 LibraryClaire and will do! - I was unsure about changing status
07:42 LibraryClaire and hello #koha
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08:05 magnuse yay for Bug 10407
08:05 magnuse @seen gmcharlt
08:05 magnuse gah!
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08:08 drojf hello again
08:11 LibraryClaire hi drojf and magnuse
08:11 magnuse hiya LibraryClaire
08:14 LibraryClaire is huginn still sleeping in a gutter?
08:17 drojf hi LibraryClaire
08:18 LibraryClaire o/
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08:38 magnuse LibraryClaire: probably
08:38 LibraryClaire poor huginn
08:39 magnuse yeah, let's hope gmcharlt takes care of him today
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08:55 magnuse kia ora paul_p
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09:11 david hello, I have a search issue on KOHA where i cannot search for all the books in my koha database.
09:12 david We have tried reindexing the database but we could only search 3 books out of the 40000 records we have
09:12 david has anyone encountered this problem before?
09:13 magnuse david: do you get any errors when you reindex?
09:13 magnuse how do you do the reindexing?
09:15 david we used koha-rebuild-zebra -f -v <instance>
09:15 david we did not encounter any errors
09:16 david the error i came across while searching is this
09:16 david No results found No results match your search for 'kw,wrdl: english' with limit(s): 'mc-itype,phr:BK'.
09:19 magnuse that's just koha saying what it did and what it found
09:19 magnuse and yo uhave books with itemtype = BK that should match "english"?
09:20 magnuse try to leave off the itemtype limit?
09:20 magnuse sorry, no better ideas come to mind and i gotta run off for lunch
09:37 drojf @seen marcelr
09:38 drojf ah, no bot
09:38 drojf >:(
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09:43 LibraryClaire bot is still sleeping
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10:00 * kidclamp waves
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10:09 LibraryClaire hi kidclamp
10:09 kidclamp hello LibraryClaire
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11:41 oleonard Hi #koha
11:42 LibraryClaire hi oleonard
11:42 wahanui hi olé onard
11:43 oleonard I hope you all enjoyed your American-free Monday
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11:49 * cait waves
11:50 cait oleonard: totally... nice, quiet... boring
11:50 oleonard :)
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12:39 magnuse whut, there was american-free monday?
12:40 LibraryClaire I noticed this when I put in a support call to the states yesterday. timing.
12:44 oleonard magnuse: National holiday here, Labor Day
12:44 magnuse nice
12:44 oleonard I'm told we don't celebrate Labor Day on May 1 because we hate commies.
12:44 * magnuse thought labour day was may 1st
12:44 magnuse ah, of course
12:44 magnuse ;-)
12:44 drojf lol
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13:02 nengard morning all
13:07 kidclamp morning nengard
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13:22 drojf espresso!
13:28 nengard hehe
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13:38 vfernandes hi #koha
13:38 vfernandes i still need some help with koha 3.22
13:38 vfernandes i'm using koha 3.22 + memcached
13:39 vfernandes very slow to totally load because of concurrency
13:40 vfernandes bug #16309
13:40 vfernandes https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]_bug.cgi?id=16309
13:41 vfernandes not using plack
13:43 vfernandes 30 -> 3s for each .pl
13:44 vfernandes why this is so slow
13:44 Joubu because you are not using plack
13:46 vfernandes right, but if I want to run without plack isn't possible to get less loading time?
13:48 vfernandes my Koha is installed in a single folder (not installed from Ubuntu/Debian packages).... How to make Koha running on Plack?
13:49 drojf backup the db, import it in a debian installation, ???, profit
13:51 vfernandes drojf: that instructions are for me?
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13:52 vfernandes I can't do that...
13:53 drojf vfernandes: it's for everyone that does not use the debian packages ;)
13:53 drojf there should be some info on setting up plack manually in the wiki
13:53 drojf but don't know how recent or out of date those are
13:54 drojf vfernandes: not running a debian based system?
13:54 vfernandes i'm running Koha on a debian system, but one requirement was to install Koha to a specific folder
13:55 vfernandes so everything needs to be done manually
13:56 vfernandes drojf: why 3.22 is more slow than 3.20 (without plack)?
13:56 vfernandes because of the database connector?
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14:03 tcohen bonjour
14:04 drojf vfernandes: i think there are a lot of entries in the bug tracker related to performance
14:04 drojf hola tcohen
14:04 tcohen magnuse: i'd say bash completion is incomplete
14:05 vfernandes drojf: but must be a reason for that performance decrease
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14:07 LibraryClaire hi tcohen o/
14:08 Joubu vfernandes: the problem is that there is an non-compressible ~0.6sec to load the DBIx::Class schema
14:08 Joubu the schema is loaded only once with plack
14:09 vfernandes can I start plack manually?
14:10 Joubu vfernandes: https://wiki.koha-community.or[…]lack_on_packages_.283.22.2B.29
14:11 vfernandes Joubu: I've checked that page... I know that there is a script called koha-plack
14:12 drojf no there is not
14:12 Joubu so you know how to start it :)
14:12 drojf for you
14:12 drojf it's a package thing
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15:07 reiveune1 bye
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15:08 vfernandes Joubu: I'm getting "Not found" acessing to starman (running on port 5000)
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16:33 kidclamp @later tell Joubu ping me about memcached/plack/sysprefs issues when you have a chance
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16:47 tcohen kidclamp: 3.22?
16:47 wahanui it has been said that 3.22 is in good shape, some minor issues are raised by jenkins (devs, please take a look just in case is my fault or just want to fix something to feel good)
16:49 kidclamp yes tcohen
16:50 tcohen bug 16140?
16:50 tcohen @seen huggin
16:51 nengard uh oh
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16:53 oleonard @seen huginn
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16:57 nengard huggin is all gone .....
16:58 cait gmcharlt is also gone - he could restart
16:58 wahanui okay, cait.
16:59 oleonard At least wahanui is still here, dutifully recording important information
17:03 nengard :)
17:04 drojf @later tell huginn if you were here this would work
17:05 * cait waves
17:05 kidclamp hi cait
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17:06 gmcharlt @quote random
17:06 huginn gmcharlt: Quote #222: "jcamins: test patches, don't feed trolls." (added by druthb at 07:49 PM, December 07, 2012)
17:09 cait :)
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17:25 kidclamp tcoehn++
17:25 kidclamp tcohen++
17:30 LibraryClaire evening #koha
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18:04 cait1 oleonard: around still?
18:04 oleonard Yes
18:04 cait1 :)
18:05 cait1 i was wondering for gbsd
18:05 cait1 there are some bugs with screenshots/design ideas
18:05 cait1 i'd like to make an emai lof those to the general list
18:05 oleonard Oh I thought you were going to ask if I could please fix all the bugs. I would if I could!
18:05 cait1 of course you would :)
18:06 cait1 no iw as going to ask you what you think of that idea and if you have bugs in mind
18:06 cait1 in was thinking about th enew holds page we did
18:06 cait1 just looking for the bug number now
18:06 cait1 and i think there was one in acquisitions
18:08 cait1 found it
18:08 cait1 bug 16421
18:08 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=16421 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Needs Signoff , Move hold edit actions into dropdown menu
18:08 oleonard Bug 16640
18:08 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=16640 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, In Discussion , Move actions on acquisitions receipt summary page into menu
18:08 cait1 and 16640
18:08 cait1 ah
18:08 cait1 yep :)
18:09 cait1 something else you can think of you#d like feedback on?
18:10 oleonard Bug 11375
18:10 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=11375 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , Patron permission names are untranslatable
18:12 cait1 this one is a bit odd to me
18:12 cait1 we don't have translatable system preferences either...
18:13 cait1 ah, i like the new view
18:13 cait1 can you still fold it?
18:13 cait1 ah yeah, with details
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18:14 cait1 cool, 3 is good, something else?
18:15 oleonard I don't think so
18:16 cait1 thx!
18:22 magnuse what do y'all think of adding an easy way to change the due date after a loan has been issued?
18:22 magnuse the use case is a book that has the wrong itemtype and gets a wrong dure date
18:22 magnuse s/dure/due/
18:23 cait1 i know some libraries would love it
18:23 magnuse now you have to return it, change things and make a new loan, which is a lot of clicking, especially if you have reservers on it
18:23 cait1 the problem now is if you miss to do it on checkout... and you send renewal and issue slip mails there is no way to correct without sending an email to the patron
18:24 cait1 hm probably you should send emails... but i have library that would like the feature for sure
18:24 magnuse there could be a "due date changed" message, perhaps
18:26 magnuse thanks cait1, not a totally crazy idea then, at least :-)
18:26 magnuse i have a library asking for it too
18:27 cait1 i know some other ils where you can do it
18:27 cait1 it doesn't seem totally crazy at all :)
18:27 LibraryClaire would it be logged in some way so it could be checked if there was an issue around due dates from the user?
18:29 LibraryClaire or at least apparent that it had been changed :)
18:30 magnuse LibraryClaire: that would be something to keep in mind, yeah
18:30 cait1 an entry to action_logs should be easy to do
18:30 cait1 could be helpful :)
18:30 LibraryClaire :D
18:30 cait1 log all the things!
18:30 cait1 hm sorry
18:30 cait1 :)
18:31 kidclamp do the pfts-europe sandboxes have elasticsearch?
18:31 magnuse @quote add <cait1> log all the things!
18:31 huginn magnuse: Error: You must be registered to use this command. If you are already registered, you must either identify (using the identify command) or add a hostmask matching your current hostmask (using the "hostmask add" command).
18:31 cait1 kidclamp: no idea
18:31 LibraryClaire huginn is back ^^
18:31 huginn LibraryClaire: I'll give you the answer as soon as RDA is ready
18:32 cait1 still the same
18:32 wahanui hmmm... the same is true i think for some other 'hidden' things, like hiding lots or damaged items by pref
18:32 magnuse i'll see if my customer wants to pay me to work on it, then :-)
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19:53 tcohen hi
19:53 wahanui privet, tcohen
19:54 tcohen if there's someone that likes tricky bugs, please look at bug 17262
19:54 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=17262 major, P5 - low, ---, tomascohen, Needs Signoff , Plack on packages is not having memcached set properly
19:54 cait1 hi :)
19:55 tcohen bug 17261 highlighted a problem, and the solution seems to highlight some more fun
19:55 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=17261 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, tomascohen, Needs Signoff , Add memcached configuration info to
19:56 tcohen need to go home noe
19:56 tcohen now
19:56 tcohen later #koha
19:57 rangi morning
19:57 cait1 morning rangi
20:03 LibraryClaire hi rangi
20:04 rangi brb gotta shutdown my computer for a sec, something is making a high pitched whine and it is driving me nuts
20:19 eythian rangi: it's not nice to talk about your co-workers like that.
20:19 rangi heh
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20:20 rangi it's super hard to test for not hearing something
20:20 eythian My parents are here, but they are sleeping off 38 hours of travel and so I have no living room at the moment. So went out to have some beers.
20:21 eythian Heh yeah, it'll all be phantom noise
20:22 cait eythian: they must really like you :)
20:22 cait eythian: going to any museums while they are visiting?
20:23 eythian cait: my mother wants to go to the MC Escher museum in Den Haag which is good (I went there years ago.)
20:23 cait cool
20:23 cait that's the one with the impossible drawings I think?
20:24 cait ahyep
20:25 eythian Yeah, but his older stuff is less mathematical and more artistic.
20:25 eythian It's interesting to see the history progress
20:26 cait sounds interesting
20:26 eythian It is.
20:26 eythian Hopefully I'll get the chance to take photos and write stuff.
20:35 LibraryClaire hi eythian
21:04 rangi hmmm
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21:35 eythian Evening LibraryClaire
21:35 LibraryClaire o/
21:36 rangi whoa
21:36 rangi there's something pretty missed up with plack on current master
21:39 rangi ahh mismatch between plack.psgi
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21:47 wizzyrea oh yeah I've had to sort that one
21:47 wizzyrea frustrating for sure
21:47 wizzyrea eythian: I resemble that whiny co-worker remark
21:48 wizzyrea also awesome that your parents are there to visit. I still haven't been able to convince mine to come here
21:49 wizzyrea maybe it has something to do with the 85 steps up to my house?
21:51 * Francesca waves
21:54 LibraryClaire night #koha
21:56 wizzyrea hi Francesca, goodnight LibraryClaire
21:56 Francesca sup wizzyrea
21:57 wizzyrea little of this, little of that :) how are you?
21:57 wizzyrea school back in session?
21:57 Francesca yup
21:57 Francesca and the essays are already coming to destroy my soul
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23:34 dcook wizzyrea: How does spud manage 85 steps up to the house?
23:34 wizzyrea one step at a time?
23:35 wizzyrea :)
23:35 wizzyrea (same as us)
23:35 dcook hehe
23:35 dcook I suppose I could do 85 steps with Ripley, although I wouldn't be able to carry much else than them.
23:35 dcook Well...
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23:35 dcook I suppose spud must be pretty big these days though
23:36 wizzyrea ah yeah you couldn't probably carry him now
23:36 dcook rangi: I once heard a really weird high pitch whine in my bathroom... drove me nuts a bit until I realized it was the washing machine. It wasn't running, so it was something it was doing while "powered down". Damn phantom load...
23:36 dcook wizzyrea: I want to say challenge accepted, but my hip is bothering me a bit at the moment... :p
23:37 dcook With Ripley, it's taken constant carrying just to build up the ability to carry them for extended periods of time... O_O
23:40 wizzyrea well you, I mean "one"
23:40 wizzyrea I could do it but I'd have to go slowly. heh.
23:40 dcook hehe
23:40 dcook I've seen some amazing kid carries...
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23:41 dcook Where the kid seems like they're the same size as the parent and just hanging off their front O_O
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