Time  Nick          Message
23:41 dcook         Where the kid seems like they're the same size as the parent and just hanging off their front O_O
23:40 dcook         I've seen some amazing kid carries...
23:40 dcook         hehe
23:40 wizzyrea      I could do it but I'd have to go slowly. heh.
23:40 wizzyrea      well you, I mean "one"
23:37 dcook         With Ripley, it's taken constant carrying just to build up the ability to carry them for extended periods of time... O_O
23:36 dcook         wizzyrea: I want to say challenge accepted, but my hip is bothering me a bit at the moment... :p
23:36 dcook         rangi: I once heard a really weird high pitch whine in my bathroom... drove me nuts a bit until I realized it was the washing machine. It wasn't running, so it was something it was doing while "powered down". Damn phantom load...
23:36 wizzyrea      ah yeah you couldn't probably carry him now
23:35 dcook         I suppose spud must be pretty big these days though
23:35 dcook         Well...
23:35 dcook         I suppose I could do 85 steps with Ripley, although I wouldn't be able to carry much else than them.
23:35 dcook         hehe
23:35 wizzyrea      (same as us)
23:35 wizzyrea      :)
23:34 wizzyrea      one step at a time?
23:34 dcook         wizzyrea: How does spud manage 85 steps up to the house?
21:57 Francesca     and the essays are already coming to destroy my soul
21:57 Francesca     yup
21:57 wizzyrea      school back in session?
21:57 wizzyrea      little of this, little of that :) how are you?
21:56 Francesca     sup wizzyrea
21:56 wizzyrea      hi Francesca, goodnight LibraryClaire
21:54 LibraryClaire night #koha
21:51 * Francesca   waves
21:49 wizzyrea      maybe it has something to do with the 85 steps up to my house?
21:48 wizzyrea      also awesome that your parents are there to visit. I still haven't been able to convince mine to come here
21:47 wizzyrea      eythian: I resemble that whiny co-worker remark
21:47 wizzyrea      frustrating for sure
21:47 wizzyrea      oh yeah I've had to sort that one
21:39 rangi         ahh mismatch between plack.psgi
21:36 rangi         there's something pretty missed up with plack on current master
21:36 rangi         whoa
21:35 LibraryClaire o/
21:35 eythian       Evening LibraryClaire
21:04 rangi         hmmm
20:35 LibraryClaire hi eythian
20:26 eythian       Hopefully I'll get the chance to take photos and write stuff.
20:26 eythian       It is.
20:26 cait          sounds interesting
20:25 eythian       It's interesting to see the history progress
20:25 eythian       Yeah, but his older stuff is less mathematical and more artistic.
20:24 cait          ahyep
20:23 cait          that's the one with the impossible drawings I think?
20:23 cait          cool
20:23 eythian       cait: my mother wants to go to the MC Escher museum in Den Haag which is good (I went there years ago.)
20:22 cait          eythian: going to any museums while they are visiting?
20:22 cait          eythian: they must really like you :)
20:21 eythian       Heh yeah, it'll all be phantom noise
20:20 eythian       My parents are here, but they are sleeping off 38 hours of travel and so I have no living room at the moment. So went out to have some beers.
20:20 rangi         it's super hard to test for not hearing something
20:19 rangi         heh
20:19 eythian       rangi: it's not nice to talk about your co-workers like that.
20:04 rangi         brb gotta shutdown my computer for a sec, something is making a high pitched whine and it is driving me nuts
20:03 LibraryClaire hi rangi
19:57 cait1         morning rangi
19:57 rangi         morning
19:56 tcohen        later #koha
19:56 tcohen        now
19:56 tcohen        need to go home noe
19:55 huginn        04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=17261 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, tomascohen, Needs Signoff , Add memcached configuration info to about.pl
19:55 tcohen        bug 17261 highlighted a problem, and the solution seems to highlight some more fun
19:54 cait1         hi :)
19:54 huginn        04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=17262 major, P5 - low, ---, tomascohen, Needs Signoff , Plack on packages is not having memcached set properly
19:54 tcohen        if there's someone that likes tricky bugs, please look at bug 17262
19:53 wahanui       privet, tcohen
19:53 tcohen        hi
18:32 magnuse       i'll see if my customer wants to pay me to work on it, then :-)
18:32 wahanui       hmmm... the same is true i think for some other 'hidden' things, like hiding lots or damaged items by pref
18:32 cait1         still the same
18:31 huginn        LibraryClaire: I'll give you the answer as soon as RDA is ready
18:31 LibraryClaire huginn is back ^^
18:31 cait1         kidclamp: no idea
18:31 huginn        magnuse: Error: You must be registered to use this command. If you are already registered, you must either identify (using the identify command) or add a hostmask matching your current hostmask (using the "hostmask add" command).
18:31 magnuse       @quote add <cait1> log all the things!
18:31 kidclamp      do the pfts-europe sandboxes have elasticsearch?
18:30 cait1         :)
18:30 cait1         hm sorry
18:30 cait1         log all the things!
18:30 LibraryClaire :D
18:30 cait1         could be helpful :)
18:30 cait1         an entry to action_logs should be easy to do
18:30 magnuse       LibraryClaire: that would be something to keep in mind, yeah
18:29 LibraryClaire or at least apparent that it had been changed :)
18:27 LibraryClaire would it be logged in some way so it could be checked if there was an issue around due dates from the user?
18:27 cait1         it doesn't seem totally crazy at all :)
18:27 cait1         i know some other ils where you can do it
18:26 magnuse       i have a library asking for it too
18:26 magnuse       thanks cait1, not a totally crazy idea then, at least :-)
18:24 magnuse       there could be a "due date changed" message, perhaps
18:24 cait1         hm probably you should send emails... but i have library that would like the feature for sure
18:23 cait1         the problem now is if you miss to do it on checkout... and you send renewal and issue slip mails there is no way to correct without sending an email to the patron
18:23 magnuse       now you have to return it, change things and make a new loan, which is a lot of clicking, especially if you have reservers on it
18:23 cait1         i know some libraries would love it
18:22 magnuse       s/dure/due/
18:22 magnuse       the use case is a book that has the wrong itemtype and gets a wrong dure date
18:22 magnuse       what do y'all think of adding an easy way to change the due date after a loan has been issued?
18:16 cait1         thx!
18:15 oleonard      I don't think so
18:14 cait1         cool, 3 is good, something else?
18:13 cait1         ah yeah, with details
18:13 cait1         can you still fold it?
18:13 cait1         ah, i like the new view
18:12 cait1         we don't have translatable system preferences either...
18:12 cait1         this one is a bit odd to me
18:10 huginn        04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11375 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , Patron permission names are untranslatable
18:10 oleonard      Bug 11375
18:09 cait1         something else you can think of you#d like feedback on?
18:08 cait1         yep :)
18:08 cait1         ah
18:08 cait1         and 16640
18:08 huginn        04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=16640 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, In Discussion , Move actions on acquisitions receipt summary page into menu
18:08 oleonard      Bug 16640
18:08 huginn        04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=16421 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Needs Signoff , Move hold edit actions into dropdown menu
18:08 cait1         bug 16421
18:08 cait1         found it
18:06 cait1         and i think there was one in acquisitions
18:06 cait1         just looking for the bug number now
18:06 cait1         in was thinking about th enew holds page we did
18:06 cait1         no iw as going to ask you what you think of that idea and if you have bugs in mind
18:05 cait1         of course you would :)
18:05 oleonard      Oh I thought you were going to ask if I could please fix all the bugs. I would if I could!
18:05 cait1         i'd like to make an emai lof those to the general list
18:05 cait1         there are some bugs with screenshots/design ideas
18:05 cait1         i was wondering for gbsd
18:04 cait1         :)
18:04 oleonard      Yes
18:04 cait1         oleonard: around still?
17:30 LibraryClaire evening #koha
17:25 kidclamp      tcohen++
17:25 kidclamp      tcoehn++
17:09 cait          :)
17:06 huginn        gmcharlt: Quote #222: "jcamins: test patches, don't feed trolls." (added by druthb at 07:49 PM, December 07, 2012)
17:06 gmcharlt      @quote random
17:05 kidclamp      hi cait
17:05 * cait        waves
17:04 drojf         @later tell huginn if you were here this would work
17:03 nengard       :)
16:59 oleonard      At least wahanui is still here, dutifully recording important information
16:58 wahanui       okay, cait.
16:58 cait          gmcharlt is also gone - he could restart
16:57 nengard       huggin is all gone .....
16:53 oleonard      @seen huginn
16:51 nengard       uh oh
16:50 tcohen        @seen huggin
16:50 tcohen        bug 16140?
16:49 kidclamp      yes tcohen
16:47 wahanui       it has been said that 3.22 is in good shape, some minor issues are raised by jenkins (devs, please take a look just in case is my fault or just want to fix something to feel good)
16:47 tcohen        kidclamp: 3.22?
16:33 kidclamp      @later tell Joubu ping me about memcached/plack/sysprefs issues when you have a chance
15:08 vfernandes    Joubu: I'm getting "Not found" acessing to starman (running on port 5000)
15:07 reiveune1     bye
14:12 drojf         it's a package thing
14:12 drojf         for you
14:12 Joubu         so you know how to start it :)
14:12 drojf         no there is not
14:11 vfernandes    Joubu: I've checked that page... I know that there is a script called koha-plack
14:10 Joubu         vfernandes: https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Plack#Plack_on_packages_.283.22.2B.29
14:09 vfernandes    can I start plack manually?
14:08 Joubu         the schema is loaded only once with plack
14:08 Joubu         vfernandes: the problem is that there is an non-compressible ~0.6sec to load the DBIx::Class schema
14:07 LibraryClaire hi tcohen o/
14:05 vfernandes    drojf: but must be a reason for that performance decrease
14:04 tcohen        magnuse: i'd say bash completion is incomplete
14:04 drojf         hola tcohen
14:04 drojf         vfernandes: i think there are a lot of entries in the bug tracker related to performance
14:03 tcohen        bonjour
13:56 vfernandes    because of the database connector?
13:56 vfernandes    drojf: why 3.22 is more slow than 3.20 (without plack)?
13:55 vfernandes    so everything needs to be done manually
13:54 vfernandes    i'm running Koha on a debian system, but one requirement was to install Koha to a specific folder
13:54 drojf         vfernandes: not running a debian based system?
13:53 drojf         but don't know how recent or out of date those are
13:53 drojf         there should be some info on setting up plack manually in the wiki
13:53 drojf         vfernandes: it's for everyone that does not use the debian packages ;)
13:52 vfernandes    I can't do that...
13:51 vfernandes    drojf: that instructions are for me?
13:49 drojf         backup the db, import it in a debian installation, ???, profit
13:48 vfernandes    my Koha is installed in a single folder (not installed from Ubuntu/Debian packages).... How to make Koha running on Plack?
13:46 vfernandes    right, but if I want to run without plack isn't possible to get less loading time?
13:44 Joubu         because you are not using plack
13:44 vfernandes    why this is so slow
13:43 vfernandes    30 opac-image.pl -> 3s for each .pl
13:41 vfernandes    not using plack
13:40 vfernandes    https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=16309
13:40 vfernandes    bug #16309
13:39 vfernandes    opac-search.pl very slow to totally load because of opac-image.pl concurrency
13:38 vfernandes    i'm using koha 3.22 + memcached
13:38 vfernandes    i still need some help with koha 3.22
13:38 vfernandes    hi #koha
13:28 nengard       hehe
13:22 drojf         espresso!
13:07 kidclamp      morning nengard
13:02 nengard       morning all
12:44 drojf         lol
12:44 magnuse       ;-)
12:44 magnuse       ah, of course
12:44 * magnuse     thought labour day was may 1st
12:44 oleonard      I'm told we don't celebrate Labor Day on May 1 because we hate commies.
12:44 magnuse       nice
12:44 oleonard      magnuse: National holiday here, Labor Day
12:40 LibraryClaire I noticed this when I put in a support call to the states yesterday. timing.
12:39 magnuse       whut, there was american-free monday?
11:50 oleonard      :)
11:50 cait          oleonard: totally... nice, quiet... boring
11:49 * cait        waves
11:43 oleonard      I hope you all enjoyed your American-free Monday
11:42 wahanui       hi olé onard
11:42 LibraryClaire hi oleonard
11:41 oleonard      Hi #koha
10:09 kidclamp      hello LibraryClaire
10:09 LibraryClaire hi kidclamp
10:00 * kidclamp    waves
09:43 LibraryClaire bot is still sleeping
09:38 drojf         >:(
09:38 drojf         ah, no bot
09:37 drojf         @seen marcelr
09:20 magnuse       sorry, no better ideas come to mind and i gotta run off for lunch
09:20 magnuse       try to leave off the itemtype limit?
09:19 magnuse       and yo uhave books with itemtype = BK that should match "english"?
09:19 magnuse       that's just koha saying what it did and what it found
09:16 david         No results found No results match your search for 'kw,wrdl: english' with limit(s): 'mc-itype,phr:BK'.
09:16 david         the error i came across while searching is this
09:15 david         we did not encounter any errors
09:15 david         we used koha-rebuild-zebra -f -v <instance>
09:13 magnuse       how do you do the reindexing?
09:13 magnuse       david: do you get any errors when you reindex?
09:12 david         has anyone encountered this problem before?
09:12 david         We have tried reindexing the database but we could only search 3 books out of the 40000 records we have
09:11 david         hello, I have a search issue on KOHA where i cannot search for all the books in my koha database.
08:55 magnuse       kia ora paul_p
08:39 magnuse       yeah, let's hope gmcharlt takes care of him today
08:38 LibraryClaire poor huginn
08:38 magnuse       LibraryClaire: probably
08:18 LibraryClaire o/
08:17 drojf         hi LibraryClaire
08:14 LibraryClaire is huginn still sleeping in a gutter?
08:11 magnuse       hiya LibraryClaire
08:11 LibraryClaire hi drojf and magnuse
08:08 drojf         hello again
08:05 magnuse       gah!
08:05 magnuse       @seen gmcharlt
08:05 magnuse       yay for Bug 10407
07:42 LibraryClaire and hello #koha
07:41 LibraryClaire and will do! - I was unsure about changing status
07:41 LibraryClaire Joubu: will try to test again later hopefully
07:41 LibraryClaire Joubu: Hi! :) no problem
07:41 Joubu         LibraryClaire: just a note: If something does not apply, switch the status to "does not apply"
07:40 Joubu         LibraryClaire: Hi and thanks for you signoffs! :)
07:34 drojf         how am i supposed to start a casual conversation about the world weather situation without huginn? :/
07:33 mtj           https://developer.yahoo.com/performance/rules.html#js_bottom
07:32 mtj           hey magnuse, thanks for the gbsd reminder ^, im planning to help out on friday :)
07:18 wahanui       magnuse: I forgot some info
07:18 magnuse       wahanui: forget some info
07:17 mtj           https://betterexplained.com/articles/speed-up-your-javascript-load-time/
07:17 wahanui       some info is apparently drawn from from administration - libraries and groups, but other than that bg is right
07:17 mtj           some info...
07:15 mtj           perhaps we are doing it wrong, atm?
07:14 mtj           .. but, im curious if that also means _externally_ loaded *.js files too?
07:14 mtj           i've read thats its a 'recommended performance enhancement', to have JS moved to the end of the page..
07:12 Joubu         ha yes indeed, at the OPAC all the JS code is loaded at the end
07:11 mtj           seems to work ok.. but i'd love to fix it properly
07:10 mtj           <script type="text/javascript" src="/opac-tmpl/bootstrap/lib/jquery/jquery.js"></script>
07:10 mtj           my nasty fix has been to manually load the jquery.js in the 'opacheader' syspref
07:07 mtj           hmm, no.. its loaded after OpacFooter' too
07:03 Joubu         jquery.js should already be loaded at this point
07:00 mtj           ^ i think loading jquery.js a little bit earlier in the page, would fix that
06:57 mtj           ..or have i just experienced a 'feature'
06:56 mtj           here's a question for the #channel.. is it a bug that jQuery code doesnt work, when pasted into a 'OpacMain' or 'OpacHeader' syspref?
06:52 fridolin      hie
06:40 reiveune      salut magnuse :)
06:40 magnuse       bonjour reiveune
06:39 reiveune      hello
06:24 drojf         ~o~
06:22 magnuse       oh don't forget gbsd on friday!
06:22 magnuse       \o/
06:17 * dcook       waves to the Euro Kohaers
06:14 alex_a        bonjour
06:11 * cait        waves
06:09 drojf         hei magnuse
06:07 magnuse       moin drojf
05:52 drojf         morning #koha
05:29 magnuse       bonjour sophie_m
05:28 sophie_m      and magnuse :)
05:28 sophie_m      hi dcook and #koha
05:28 magnuse       kia ora dcook
05:28 * dcook       waves to liw, magnuse, and sophie_m
05:21 * magnuse     waves
00:32 * dcook       waves