Time Nick Message 23:41 dcook Where the kid seems like they're the same size as the parent and just hanging off their front O_O 23:40 dcook I've seen some amazing kid carries... 23:40 dcook hehe 23:40 wizzyrea I could do it but I'd have to go slowly. heh. 23:40 wizzyrea well you, I mean "one" 23:37 dcook With Ripley, it's taken constant carrying just to build up the ability to carry them for extended periods of time... O_O 23:36 dcook wizzyrea: I want to say challenge accepted, but my hip is bothering me a bit at the moment... :p 23:36 dcook rangi: I once heard a really weird high pitch whine in my bathroom... drove me nuts a bit until I realized it was the washing machine. It wasn't running, so it was something it was doing while "powered down". Damn phantom load... 23:36 wizzyrea ah yeah you couldn't probably carry him now 23:35 dcook I suppose spud must be pretty big these days though 23:35 dcook Well... 23:35 dcook I suppose I could do 85 steps with Ripley, although I wouldn't be able to carry much else than them. 23:35 dcook hehe 23:35 wizzyrea (same as us) 23:35 wizzyrea :) 23:34 wizzyrea one step at a time? 23:34 dcook wizzyrea: How does spud manage 85 steps up to the house? 21:57 Francesca and the essays are already coming to destroy my soul 21:57 Francesca yup 21:57 wizzyrea school back in session? 21:57 wizzyrea little of this, little of that :) how are you? 21:56 Francesca sup wizzyrea 21:56 wizzyrea hi Francesca, goodnight LibraryClaire 21:54 LibraryClaire night #koha 21:51 * Francesca waves 21:49 wizzyrea maybe it has something to do with the 85 steps up to my house? 21:48 wizzyrea also awesome that your parents are there to visit. I still haven't been able to convince mine to come here 21:47 wizzyrea eythian: I resemble that whiny co-worker remark 21:47 wizzyrea frustrating for sure 21:47 wizzyrea oh yeah I've had to sort that one 21:39 rangi ahh mismatch between plack.psgi 21:36 rangi there's something pretty missed up with plack on current master 21:36 rangi whoa 21:35 LibraryClaire o/ 21:35 eythian Evening LibraryClaire 21:04 rangi hmmm 20:35 LibraryClaire hi eythian 20:26 eythian Hopefully I'll get the chance to take photos and write stuff. 20:26 eythian It is. 20:26 cait sounds interesting 20:25 eythian It's interesting to see the history progress 20:25 eythian Yeah, but his older stuff is less mathematical and more artistic. 20:24 cait ahyep 20:23 cait that's the one with the impossible drawings I think? 20:23 cait cool 20:23 eythian cait: my mother wants to go to the MC Escher museum in Den Haag which is good (I went there years ago.) 20:22 cait eythian: going to any museums while they are visiting? 20:22 cait eythian: they must really like you :) 20:21 eythian Heh yeah, it'll all be phantom noise 20:20 eythian My parents are here, but they are sleeping off 38 hours of travel and so I have no living room at the moment. So went out to have some beers. 20:20 rangi it's super hard to test for not hearing something 20:19 rangi heh 20:19 eythian rangi: it's not nice to talk about your co-workers like that. 20:04 rangi brb gotta shutdown my computer for a sec, something is making a high pitched whine and it is driving me nuts 20:03 LibraryClaire hi rangi 19:57 cait1 morning rangi 19:57 rangi morning 19:56 tcohen later #koha 19:56 tcohen now 19:56 tcohen need to go home noe 19:55 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=17261 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, tomascohen, Needs Signoff , Add memcached configuration info to about.pl 19:55 tcohen bug 17261 highlighted a problem, and the solution seems to highlight some more fun 19:54 cait1 hi :) 19:54 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=17262 major, P5 - low, ---, tomascohen, Needs Signoff , Plack on packages is not having memcached set properly 19:54 tcohen if there's someone that likes tricky bugs, please look at bug 17262 19:53 wahanui privet, tcohen 19:53 tcohen hi 18:32 magnuse i'll see if my customer wants to pay me to work on it, then :-) 18:32 wahanui hmmm... the same is true i think for some other 'hidden' things, like hiding lots or damaged items by pref 18:32 cait1 still the same 18:31 huginn LibraryClaire: I'll give you the answer as soon as RDA is ready 18:31 LibraryClaire huginn is back ^^ 18:31 cait1 kidclamp: no idea 18:31 huginn magnuse: Error: You must be registered to use this command. If you are already registered, you must either identify (using the identify command) or add a hostmask matching your current hostmask (using the "hostmask add" command). 18:31 magnuse @quote add <cait1> log all the things! 18:31 kidclamp do the pfts-europe sandboxes have elasticsearch? 18:30 cait1 :) 18:30 cait1 hm sorry 18:30 cait1 log all the things! 18:30 LibraryClaire :D 18:30 cait1 could be helpful :) 18:30 cait1 an entry to action_logs should be easy to do 18:30 magnuse LibraryClaire: that would be something to keep in mind, yeah 18:29 LibraryClaire or at least apparent that it had been changed :) 18:27 LibraryClaire would it be logged in some way so it could be checked if there was an issue around due dates from the user? 18:27 cait1 it doesn't seem totally crazy at all :) 18:27 cait1 i know some other ils where you can do it 18:26 magnuse i have a library asking for it too 18:26 magnuse thanks cait1, not a totally crazy idea then, at least :-) 18:24 magnuse there could be a "due date changed" message, perhaps 18:24 cait1 hm probably you should send emails... but i have library that would like the feature for sure 18:23 cait1 the problem now is if you miss to do it on checkout... and you send renewal and issue slip mails there is no way to correct without sending an email to the patron 18:23 magnuse now you have to return it, change things and make a new loan, which is a lot of clicking, especially if you have reservers on it 18:23 cait1 i know some libraries would love it 18:22 magnuse s/dure/due/ 18:22 magnuse the use case is a book that has the wrong itemtype and gets a wrong dure date 18:22 magnuse what do y'all think of adding an easy way to change the due date after a loan has been issued? 18:16 cait1 thx! 18:15 oleonard I don't think so 18:14 cait1 cool, 3 is good, something else? 18:13 cait1 ah yeah, with details 18:13 cait1 can you still fold it? 18:13 cait1 ah, i like the new view 18:12 cait1 we don't have translatable system preferences either... 18:12 cait1 this one is a bit odd to me 18:10 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11375 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , Patron permission names are untranslatable 18:10 oleonard Bug 11375 18:09 cait1 something else you can think of you#d like feedback on? 18:08 cait1 yep :) 18:08 cait1 ah 18:08 cait1 and 16640 18:08 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=16640 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, In Discussion , Move actions on acquisitions receipt summary page into menu 18:08 oleonard Bug 16640 18:08 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=16421 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Needs Signoff , Move hold edit actions into dropdown menu 18:08 cait1 bug 16421 18:08 cait1 found it 18:06 cait1 and i think there was one in acquisitions 18:06 cait1 just looking for the bug number now 18:06 cait1 in was thinking about th enew holds page we did 18:06 cait1 no iw as going to ask you what you think of that idea and if you have bugs in mind 18:05 cait1 of course you would :) 18:05 oleonard Oh I thought you were going to ask if I could please fix all the bugs. I would if I could! 18:05 cait1 i'd like to make an emai lof those to the general list 18:05 cait1 there are some bugs with screenshots/design ideas 18:05 cait1 i was wondering for gbsd 18:04 cait1 :) 18:04 oleonard Yes 18:04 cait1 oleonard: around still? 17:30 LibraryClaire evening #koha 17:25 kidclamp tcohen++ 17:25 kidclamp tcoehn++ 17:09 cait :) 17:06 huginn gmcharlt: Quote #222: "jcamins: test patches, don't feed trolls." (added by druthb at 07:49 PM, December 07, 2012) 17:06 gmcharlt @quote random 17:05 kidclamp hi cait 17:05 * cait waves 17:04 drojf @later tell huginn if you were here this would work 17:03 nengard :) 16:59 oleonard At least wahanui is still here, dutifully recording important information 16:58 wahanui okay, cait. 16:58 cait gmcharlt is also gone - he could restart 16:57 nengard huggin is all gone ..... 16:53 oleonard @seen huginn 16:51 nengard uh oh 16:50 tcohen @seen huggin 16:50 tcohen bug 16140? 16:49 kidclamp yes tcohen 16:47 wahanui it has been said that 3.22 is in good shape, some minor issues are raised by jenkins (devs, please take a look just in case is my fault or just want to fix something to feel good) 16:47 tcohen kidclamp: 3.22? 16:33 kidclamp @later tell Joubu ping me about memcached/plack/sysprefs issues when you have a chance 15:08 vfernandes Joubu: I'm getting "Not found" acessing to starman (running on port 5000) 15:07 reiveune1 bye 14:12 drojf it's a package thing 14:12 drojf for you 14:12 Joubu so you know how to start it :) 14:12 drojf no there is not 14:11 vfernandes Joubu: I've checked that page... I know that there is a script called koha-plack 14:10 Joubu vfernandes: https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Plack#Plack_on_packages_.283.22.2B.29 14:09 vfernandes can I start plack manually? 14:08 Joubu the schema is loaded only once with plack 14:08 Joubu vfernandes: the problem is that there is an non-compressible ~0.6sec to load the DBIx::Class schema 14:07 LibraryClaire hi tcohen o/ 14:05 vfernandes drojf: but must be a reason for that performance decrease 14:04 tcohen magnuse: i'd say bash completion is incomplete 14:04 drojf hola tcohen 14:04 drojf vfernandes: i think there are a lot of entries in the bug tracker related to performance 14:03 tcohen bonjour 13:56 vfernandes because of the database connector? 13:56 vfernandes drojf: why 3.22 is more slow than 3.20 (without plack)? 13:55 vfernandes so everything needs to be done manually 13:54 vfernandes i'm running Koha on a debian system, but one requirement was to install Koha to a specific folder 13:54 drojf vfernandes: not running a debian based system? 13:53 drojf but don't know how recent or out of date those are 13:53 drojf there should be some info on setting up plack manually in the wiki 13:53 drojf vfernandes: it's for everyone that does not use the debian packages ;) 13:52 vfernandes I can't do that... 13:51 vfernandes drojf: that instructions are for me? 13:49 drojf backup the db, import it in a debian installation, ???, profit 13:48 vfernandes my Koha is installed in a single folder (not installed from Ubuntu/Debian packages).... How to make Koha running on Plack? 13:46 vfernandes right, but if I want to run without plack isn't possible to get less loading time? 13:44 Joubu because you are not using plack 13:44 vfernandes why this is so slow 13:43 vfernandes 30 opac-image.pl -> 3s for each .pl 13:41 vfernandes not using plack 13:40 vfernandes https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=16309 13:40 vfernandes bug #16309 13:39 vfernandes opac-search.pl very slow to totally load because of opac-image.pl concurrency 13:38 vfernandes i'm using koha 3.22 + memcached 13:38 vfernandes i still need some help with koha 3.22 13:38 vfernandes hi #koha 13:28 nengard hehe 13:22 drojf espresso! 13:07 kidclamp morning nengard 13:02 nengard morning all 12:44 drojf lol 12:44 magnuse ;-) 12:44 magnuse ah, of course 12:44 * magnuse thought labour day was may 1st 12:44 oleonard I'm told we don't celebrate Labor Day on May 1 because we hate commies. 12:44 magnuse nice 12:44 oleonard magnuse: National holiday here, Labor Day 12:40 LibraryClaire I noticed this when I put in a support call to the states yesterday. timing. 12:39 magnuse whut, there was american-free monday? 11:50 oleonard :) 11:50 cait oleonard: totally... nice, quiet... boring 11:49 * cait waves 11:43 oleonard I hope you all enjoyed your American-free Monday 11:42 wahanui hi olé onard 11:42 LibraryClaire hi oleonard 11:41 oleonard Hi #koha 10:09 kidclamp hello LibraryClaire 10:09 LibraryClaire hi kidclamp 10:00 * kidclamp waves 09:43 LibraryClaire bot is still sleeping 09:38 drojf >:( 09:38 drojf ah, no bot 09:37 drojf @seen marcelr 09:20 magnuse sorry, no better ideas come to mind and i gotta run off for lunch 09:20 magnuse try to leave off the itemtype limit? 09:19 magnuse and yo uhave books with itemtype = BK that should match "english"? 09:19 magnuse that's just koha saying what it did and what it found 09:16 david No results found No results match your search for 'kw,wrdl: english' with limit(s): 'mc-itype,phr:BK'. 09:16 david the error i came across while searching is this 09:15 david we did not encounter any errors 09:15 david we used koha-rebuild-zebra -f -v <instance> 09:13 magnuse how do you do the reindexing? 09:13 magnuse david: do you get any errors when you reindex? 09:12 david has anyone encountered this problem before? 09:12 david We have tried reindexing the database but we could only search 3 books out of the 40000 records we have 09:11 david hello, I have a search issue on KOHA where i cannot search for all the books in my koha database. 08:55 magnuse kia ora paul_p 08:39 magnuse yeah, let's hope gmcharlt takes care of him today 08:38 LibraryClaire poor huginn 08:38 magnuse LibraryClaire: probably 08:18 LibraryClaire o/ 08:17 drojf hi LibraryClaire 08:14 LibraryClaire is huginn still sleeping in a gutter? 08:11 magnuse hiya LibraryClaire 08:11 LibraryClaire hi drojf and magnuse 08:08 drojf hello again 08:05 magnuse gah! 08:05 magnuse @seen gmcharlt 08:05 magnuse yay for Bug 10407 07:42 LibraryClaire and hello #koha 07:41 LibraryClaire and will do! - I was unsure about changing status 07:41 LibraryClaire Joubu: will try to test again later hopefully 07:41 LibraryClaire Joubu: Hi! :) no problem 07:41 Joubu LibraryClaire: just a note: If something does not apply, switch the status to "does not apply" 07:40 Joubu LibraryClaire: Hi and thanks for you signoffs! :) 07:34 drojf how am i supposed to start a casual conversation about the world weather situation without huginn? :/ 07:33 mtj https://developer.yahoo.com/performance/rules.html#js_bottom 07:32 mtj hey magnuse, thanks for the gbsd reminder ^, im planning to help out on friday :) 07:18 wahanui magnuse: I forgot some info 07:18 magnuse wahanui: forget some info 07:17 mtj https://betterexplained.com/articles/speed-up-your-javascript-load-time/ 07:17 wahanui some info is apparently drawn from from administration - libraries and groups, but other than that bg is right 07:17 mtj some info... 07:15 mtj perhaps we are doing it wrong, atm? 07:14 mtj .. but, im curious if that also means _externally_ loaded *.js files too? 07:14 mtj i've read thats its a 'recommended performance enhancement', to have JS moved to the end of the page.. 07:12 Joubu ha yes indeed, at the OPAC all the JS code is loaded at the end 07:11 mtj seems to work ok.. but i'd love to fix it properly 07:10 mtj <script type="text/javascript" src="/opac-tmpl/bootstrap/lib/jquery/jquery.js"></script> 07:10 mtj my nasty fix has been to manually load the jquery.js in the 'opacheader' syspref 07:07 mtj hmm, no.. its loaded after OpacFooter' too 07:03 Joubu jquery.js should already be loaded at this point 07:00 mtj ^ i think loading jquery.js a little bit earlier in the page, would fix that 06:57 mtj ..or have i just experienced a 'feature' 06:56 mtj here's a question for the #channel.. is it a bug that jQuery code doesnt work, when pasted into a 'OpacMain' or 'OpacHeader' syspref? 06:52 fridolin hie 06:40 reiveune salut magnuse :) 06:40 magnuse bonjour reiveune 06:39 reiveune hello 06:24 drojf ~o~ 06:22 magnuse oh don't forget gbsd on friday! 06:22 magnuse \o/ 06:17 * dcook waves to the Euro Kohaers 06:14 alex_a bonjour 06:11 * cait waves 06:09 drojf hei magnuse 06:07 magnuse moin drojf 05:52 drojf morning #koha 05:29 magnuse bonjour sophie_m 05:28 sophie_m and magnuse :) 05:28 sophie_m hi dcook and #koha 05:28 magnuse kia ora dcook 05:28 * dcook waves to liw, magnuse, and sophie_m 05:21 * magnuse waves 00:32 * dcook waves