IRC log for #koha, 2016-08-30

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02:00 wizzyrea well I can't just let "damn, this is tricky" be the last thing said today
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02:44 dcook hehe
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05:32 * magnuse waves
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05:54 magnuse gmcharlt++ for[…]age_downloads.png - i can see myself in there :-)
05:54 magnuse s/see/even see/
05:57 dcook :D
05:57 dcook I imagine I'm a few of those Australian ones as well :)
05:58 cait hm too crowded in the middle  - is the big blog france?
06:00 cait no idea... but it looks nice :)
06:00 * dcook takes a peak
06:00 dcook Makes you wonder
06:01 dcook I wonder what that northern Canadian one is!
06:01 dcook Neat to see a couple of Tasmanian downloads
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06:14 cait @wunder Konstanz
06:14 huginn cait: The current temperature in Luisenstraße, Konstanz, Germany is 18.0°C (8:11 AM CEST on August 30, 2016). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 79%. Dew Point: 14.0°C. Pressure: 30.21 in 1023 hPa (Steady).
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06:30 reiveune hello
06:47 magnuse @wunder boo
06:47 huginn magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 9.0°C (8:20 AM CEST on August 30, 2016). Conditions: Rain Showers. Humidity: 100%. Dew Point: 9.0°C. Pressure: 29.65 in 1004 hPa (Steady).
06:50 magnuse anyone else having their sessions randomly terminated when running 16.05 under Plack?
06:51 magnuse we had it on 3.22.x
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06:51 magnuse then upgraded to 16.05.02 and it went away
06:51 magnuse upgraded to 16.05.03 last night and now it is back
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07:00 alex_a bonjour
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07:05 morgane hi #koha !
07:06 magnuse bonjour morgane
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07:06 morgane salut magnuse :)
07:06 drojf morning #koha
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07:35 LibraryClaire morning #koha
07:36 drojf morning again #koha. server still hates me
07:41 LibraryClaire guten morgen drojf :)
07:42 drojf guten morgen LibraryClaire :)
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08:54 joann hllo
08:54 joann this is j from pune kohauser meet
08:54 joann on the wrlkd tour
08:54 joann showing the people how this worls
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08:55 joann hello irma
08:55 joann this is jo
08:55 joann from pune
08:55 joann demosrating irc
08:56 cait hi joann :)
08:56 cait @wunder Konstanz
08:56 huginn cait: The current temperature in Luisenstraße, Konstanz, Germany is 20.7°C (10:47 AM CEST on August 30, 2016). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 75%. Dew Point: 16.0°C. Pressure: 30.21 in 1023 hPa (Steady).
08:56 magnuse hi joann
08:56 cait @wunder Pune
08:56 huginn cait: The current temperature in Poona, India is 28.0°C (11:30 AM IST on August 30, 2016). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 61%. Dew Point: 22.0°C. Pressure: 29.70 in 1006 hPa.
08:56 magnuse @wunder boo
08:56 huginn magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 10.0°C (10:20 AM CEST on August 30, 2016). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 94%. Dew Point: 9.0°C. Pressure: 29.68 in 1005 hPa (Steady).
08:56 joann hello to norway and konstanz and sydney
08:57 magnuse koha world domination! :-)
08:57 drojf hi joann and pune people
08:57 * drojf waves from berlin
08:57 joann im trying to encorage india koha community to get involved more
08:58 magnuse joann++ :-)
08:58 joann ok - thanks guys. logging out now
08:58 irma hello Koha-ites in Pune ~~~ hell from Sydney :-)
08:58 irma *hello
08:59 magnuse norway actually has a place called hell :-)
09:00 irma hi magnuse .... not a nice official name for a place really
09:00 drojf i bet hell freezes over a lot in norway
09:00 magnuse oh, it does
09:00 magnuse hell does not mean hell in norwegian, though :-)
09:01 irma what does it mean?
09:02 magnuse
09:03 magnuse The name Hell stems from the Old Norse word hellir, which means "overhang" or "cliff cave".,_Norway
09:04 * LibraryClaire waves
09:06 irma magnuse I wonder if many English only speaking tourists visit
09:07 magnuse yes they do, according to wikipedia :-)
09:09 joann can  someone please post me the link to the marathi translation page
09:09 irma that's good. There is a place in OZ called "Howlong"
09:09 joann im sure we started this in thane
09:10 irma
09:11 irma here it is joann
09:12 joann thank you Irma
09:12 irma and here for Hindi
09:13 irma joann can i help you with anything else?
09:17 irma all the best to you all !! Goodnight !!
09:29 eythian wahanui: on fire is <reply>[…]aru5vb2/giphy.gif
09:29 wahanui OK, eythian.
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10:08 akawa What field should i choose for "item identifier" at SIP2? It is a specific field by default or i can freely choose one?
10:10 kidclamp what part of setup is this akawa? The item identifier just refers to the barcode afaik
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10:19 akawa Hm.. Im just asking, i didnt start the installation yet. still reading, thank you!
11:27 magnuse the docs say "Do not delete or edit the Default Framework since this will cause problems with your cataloging records - always create a new template based on the Default Framework, or alter the other Frameworks. "
11:28 magnuse what kind of problems are we talking about there?
11:28 magnuse "problems with your cataloging records" seems kind of vague...
11:34 cait hm there are multiple things i think
11:34 cait some scripts only look at the defautl framework
11:34 cait if you import into the default framework and fields/subfields are not defined - they will get dleeted when you edit the record the first time
11:34 cait so possible data loss
11:34 cait if you delete the LDR i think, there used to be a problem with encoding, because it contains the flag for the encoding somewhere
11:36 magnuse ah, here be monsters :-)
11:36 magnuse i'll advice against it
11:36 magnuse hm, hiding things in the default framework is a no-no too?
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11:40 magnuse maybe it should be possible to configure another default framework then the one called Default?
11:47 magnuse cait++ for knowing stuff
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11:51 oleonard Hi everyone
11:53 magnuse hiya oleonard
11:57 cait hiding shoudl be no problem
11:57 cait to my knowledge
11:59 * oleonard thinks the laundry room is a good place to hide but didn't hear the first part of the conversation
11:59 * druthb hides under the bed, when needful
12:01 cait :P
12:02 magnuse lulz
12:05 * LibraryClaire waves
12:05 * magnuse waves back
12:06 LibraryClaire :)
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12:14 drojf @wunder berlin, germany
12:14 huginn drojf: The current temperature in Berlin Tegel, Germany is 21.0°C (1:50 PM CEST on August 30, 2016). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 46%. Dew Point: 9.0°C. Pressure: 30.30 in 1026 hPa (Steady).
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12:17 LibraryClaire @wunder LCY
12:17 huginn LibraryClaire: The current temperature in London City, United Kingdom is 25.0°C (12:50 PM BST on August 30, 2016). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 36%. Dew Point: 9.0°C. Pressure: 30.27 in 1025 hPa (Steady).
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12:31 eythian @wunder ams
12:31 huginn eythian: The current temperature in Schiphol, Badhoevedorp, Netherlands is 22.8°C (2:27 PM CEST on August 30, 2016). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 66%. Dew Point: 16.0°C. Pressure: 30.30 in 1026 hPa (Steady).
12:32 magnuse wow, still summer in europe?
12:32 magnuse @wunder boo
12:32 huginn magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo Vi, Norway is 11.0°C (2:00 PM CEST on August 30, 2016). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 72%. Dew Point: 8.0°C. Pressure: 29.76 in 1008 hPa (Rising).
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12:42 eythian magnuse: after a fashion. Last week was stinking hot, cooled a bit this one.
12:42 LibraryClaire icky hot last week
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12:43 * magnuse was in menorca last week and enjoyed the heat on the beach :-)
12:45 * oleonard had never heard of Menorca before
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12:47 magnuse smaller sibling of Mallorca
12:47 magnuse or in fact, middle sibling of Mallorca and Ibiza
12:47 magnuse we had a wonderful view of Marseille on the way home, btw
12:48 * LibraryClaire wants a holiday
12:51 * magnuse was working in the evenings ;-)
12:52 drojf i'd take that
12:54 * magnuse can recommend it
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12:59 eythian[…]potted-amsterdam/ <-- so that balloon was actually noteworthy
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13:07 oleonard Joubu++ # Bug 14060
13:07 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=14060 normal, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Signed Off , Remove readonly on date inputs
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13:12 Joubu thanks oleonard!
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13:54 mtompset Greetings, #koha.
13:55 mtompset @seen tcohen
13:55 huginn mtompset: tcohen was last seen in #koha 17 hours, 22 minutes, and 16 seconds ago: <tcohen> damn, this is tricky!
13:57 mtompset @later tell tcohen bug 11592 is an intermediary step. The problem is the XSLT log is making the refactor a pain for the next bug patch.
13:57 huginn mtompset: The operation succeeded.
14:00 mtompset anyone have an idea of what __ZEBRA_SRU_HOST__ is supposed to be set to?
14:00 mtompset (and other similar values) referenced in pass in bug 9749
14:00 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9749 normal, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , Placeholders in koha-conf.xml generated by the Debian packages
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14:15 tcohen bonjour
14:15 wahanui hi, tcohen
14:16 mtompset Greetings, tcohen.
14:23 tcohen hi mtompset
14:23 tcohen i cleaned your patchset a bit
14:23 tcohen just didn't have the time to submit
14:24 mtompset I fear how it might look now. :P
14:24 mtompset did you refactor the actual template files?
14:27 tcohen your patchset doesn't touch any template file
14:28 tcohen i don't follow you
14:28 tcohen i tweaked all .pl files
14:28 tcohen because you introduced unneeded object cloning and over-complicated logic
14:28 tcohen i might be missing the point
14:28 tcohen but it looked un-natural at some point
14:29 mtompset the cloning was to keep the filtered and unfiltered... it may not be necessary... playing with objects in perl is new to me.
14:30 pastebot "tcohen" at pasted "mtompset: this is the simplest one" (24 lines) at
14:31 mtompset Hmm... I vaguely recall something similar elsewhere...
14:31 tcohen whatever you need to do for rendering the end user interface using the record, needs to use the filtered record (at least in those cases)
14:31 tcohen catalogue/
14:31 tcohen opac/
14:31 tcohen opac/
14:31 tcohen opac/
14:31 tcohen opac/
14:31 tcohen opac/
14:31 tcohen opac/
14:31 tcohen opac/
14:31 tcohen opac/
14:31 tcohen opac/
14:31 tcohen your code is correct
14:31 tcohen but does more than needed
14:32 tcohen and the tasks it does with no purpose, are costly
14:32 tcohen but it is solved
14:32 tcohen I'll attach the followup ASAP
14:33 mtompset Okay... I'll look through that once you do.
14:33 mtompset I'd like to see half this filtering problem solved.
14:33 mtompset the OpacHiddenItems is a pain.
14:33 mtompset XSLT stuff...
14:33 wahanui well, xslt stuff is weird
14:33 tcohen well, more than a half
14:33 tcohen catalogue/ slipped too :-P
14:34 mtompset Well, the non-OpacHiddenItems stuff is one "half", in my mind. :)
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14:41 tcohen @seen ashimema
14:41 huginn tcohen: ashimema was last seen in #koha 6 days, 6 hours, 23 minutes, and 10 seconds ago: <ashimema> that's a good thing in my opinion
14:43 mtompset Seems like we don't all hang out here like we used to.
14:43 mtompset Thanks for the reply on facebook. It's weird when random people you don't know request to join a group you administer.
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14:49 magnuse eythian: “The weather conditions must be perfect and that does not happen often” ;-)
14:50 eythian yeah, they consider Amsterdam to be a windy city. It's hilarious.
14:50 tcohen :x
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14:50 tcohen my dual screen setup has made it worse, regarding focus errors
14:51 eythian (I then show them the current weather in Wellington, and at any given time it's likely to be twice as windy as here.)
14:51 magnuse lulz
14:53 LibraryClaire I got a good windy pic by the Wellington sign
14:53 LibraryClaire (said everyone ever probably)
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15:05 eythian LibraryClaire: when were you there?
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15:05 eythian (I didn't know people went out to that sign, it's slightly off the beaten track.)
15:06 LibraryClaire jan/feb 14
15:07 LibraryClaire had a tour guide guy that liked to take us to odd locations
15:07 eythian Was his name Mike?
15:08 LibraryClaire Mikey
15:09 eythian <-- this guy?
15:09 LibraryClaire noo
15:10 eythian ah, pity
15:10 LibraryClaire hehe
15:11 eythian good guy who is a friend from there.
15:11 LibraryClaire cool :)
15:11 eythian so when you go back... ;)
15:12 LibraryClaire :D
15:15 tcohen is...
15:15 tcohen ... bizarre
15:16 tcohen can anyone hand me some TNT?
15:16 mtompset I told you, rewrite the template files. :P
15:17 Joubu You are pretty sure to broke something if you touch it
15:17 tcohen nah
15:17 tcohen my $biblionumber = $query->param('biblionumber');
15:17 tcohen and then, 20 lines later
15:17 tcohen my $biblio = GetBiblioData($biblionumber);
15:17 tcohen $biblionumber = $biblio->{biblionumber};
15:18 tcohen WTF???
15:18 Joubu to be sure
15:18 tcohen is that some kind of double checking?????
15:18 tcohen hahahahah
15:18 * tcohen is ROTFL
15:18 tcohen this is 2004 code that morphed into this frankenstein
15:19 eythian <-- here you go tcohen
15:19 tcohen eythian: thanks :-D
15:19 tcohen this line is my favourite, though:
15:20 tcohen my $itemtype     = &GetFrameworkCode($biblionumber);
15:20 tcohen =D =D
15:20 eythian wow
15:20 tcohen why calling if $framework if we can name it $itemtype?
15:20 * tcohen loves the ctrl+d function of Sublime to fast refactoring stuff
15:23 eythian sumblime huh. next you'll be using marcedit.
15:24 * oleonard uses Sublime but keeps it a secret
15:24 oleonard Whoops.
15:26 gaetan_B how does the offset and length parameters work for record matching rules ? i have tried a number of offsets around the starting position i am looking at, and can't seem to get it to give the expected results
15:31 tcohen OpacSuppressionByIPRange
15:31 tcohen Joubu: ^^^^^ that's a source of problems
15:31 tcohen in, under Plack
15:31 mtompset Because some sub call modifies $biblio number?
15:33 tcohen I don't think a call to should do such a thing
15:34 tcohen eythian: yes, i've been using Sublime since 2013
15:34 * tcohen still loves Vim :-D
15:34 Joubu tcohen: you should :x, drink a beer, and :e again
15:34 mtompset Vim++
15:34 tcohen sublime has a vim mode!
15:34 tcohen :-D
15:35 eythian I bet it's not very complete.
15:35 eythian because everyone has their vim tuned differently
15:35 tcohen i don't think sublime can match vim in that
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15:56 mtompset *ping* anyone have an idea of what __ZEBRA_SRU_HOST__ is supposed to be set to?
16:01 * mtompset puts on hat for chauffeur duty.
16:02 eythian Whoever looks after your Zebras in the Suriname.
16:02 eythian (there's a typo in it.)
16:03 tcohen mtompset: i'll wait for your comments before finishing the QA
16:03 tcohen later #koha, lunch time!
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16:34 cait bag?
16:35 bag cait?
16:35 wahanui cait is the best friend you could ever have.
16:35 cait hehe :)
16:35 cait you are back!
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17:23 lisette Hello all, I just tried running a report out of the reports library (bibs with series info) and got the following error: execute command denied to user 'koha_valnet'@'%' for routine 'b.ExtractValue'    The only thing I changed in the report was adding a restriction by home branch. Does anyone know how I can fix this?
17:25 kidclamp hi lisette
17:26 cait does it work without the chagne?
17:27 mtompset eythian: It's commented out by default. How do I fill it in?
17:27 lisette It didn't give me the error, but it also ran forever and never gave me a result.
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17:29 kidclamp hi lisette,
17:29 kidclamp you have b.ExtractValue - you need just ExtractValue
17:29 eythian mtompset: if you don't know who is hosting your zebras, I suggest a flight to Suriname to find out
17:30 mtompset eythian: it's a remote db... do I put the remote db ip address?
17:31 mtompset or do I put the ip address of the koha web app server where zebra is running?
17:31 lisette hi, kidclamp thank you!
17:31 kidclamp np
17:32 eythian mtompset: no idea, never used it.
17:32 mtompset okay... I was wondering if that might solve my oAuth issues.
17:33 mtompset that's the message.
17:34 mtompset [Tue Aug 30 19:48:11.946444 2016] [cgi:error] [pid 3734] [client] AH01215: [Tue Aug 30 19:48:11 2016] oAuth error: Database unavailable (109) authorities Bib-1, ref
17:34 mtompset erer: http://.../cgi-bin/koha/cataloguing/
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17:39 tcohen mtompset: i've seen that for a while. didn't notice any consequences
17:40 mtompset Is your zebra indexes set to 0?
17:40 * tcohen doesnt' know what that means
17:40 mtompset using the zebra facets.
17:41 mtompset when my facets disappeared, I set it to 0 and the facets came back, but obviously ugly calculated in Koha.
17:41 mtompset Sorry... don't know exact name.
17:44 tcohen we set it to 1
17:53 eythian[…]arians-do-to-help
18:02 mtompset It kind of sucks, because if we controlled the DNS for the client, I'd fresh install them to upgrade, but we don't.
18:04 tcohen mtompset: what are you talking about?
18:05 mtompset Well, if the problem is in the configuation files, I'd spin up a different droplet, install and upgrade on it, and then all the config files would be current.
18:05 tcohen true
18:05 tcohen or just create a new instance
18:05 tcohen and compare the results =D
18:06 tcohen as long as you use an instance name that works for sed...
18:06 mtompset a winmerge of sorts, I suppose.
18:07 mtompset I'm going to check my getxmlbiblio vs getmarcbiblio comment.
18:08 mtompset but otherwise 11592 eyeballs pretty well.
18:09 tcohen getmarcbiblio does some data sanitization
18:09 tcohen both extract the marcxml from biblioitems
18:10 tcohen OMFG
18:11 mtompset related to these two functions?
18:11 tcohen i can't belive we are calling _koha_marc_update_bib_ids on each GetMarcBiblio
18:11 tcohen which is, well, all over the place
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18:19 mtompset I'll run a full test on 11592 later today. I have other things on my plate to do.
18:20 mtompset But given that you are right about the difference between GetMarcBiblio and GetXmlBiblio, I think it should be okay.
18:21 tcohen mtompset: cool :-D
18:22 mtompset And my work on 16335 may require a refactor of some template files.
18:23 mtompset Display logic should NOT be in our libraries. It should be in Templates.
18:27 oleonard kidclamp: I heard from your guy at CCA and gave his Coce redirect script a try. It worked well, but we still get a mixed-content warning because of Amazon covers :(
18:27 kidclamp boo
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18:28 oleonard Yeah. I wonder if the http-only Amazon covers are a limitation of their API or an issue with the Coce code?
18:28 kidclamp coce returns http covers - i have to look at that code
18:30 kidclamp ah, fixed in more recent versiob
18:31 oleonard Oh nice
18:31 kidclamp try it now
18:32 tcohen what are you playing with?
18:32 kidclamp bywater coce server
18:32 tcohen ah
18:35 kidclamp fredericd++
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19:24 gmcharlt @quote random
19:24 huginn gmcharlt: Quote #101: "<darling> I still need to catch up with current Koha. Is pretty dreamy already." (added by gmcharlt at 02:44 AM, October 29, 2010)
19:25 cait hi gmcharlt :)
19:26 tcohen hi gmcharlt!
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19:35 * andreashm waves
19:36 mtompset @quote random
19:36 huginn mtompset: Quote #153: "<rangi> merging code in git doesn't make me angry, I just think back to svn and cvs, and git could punch me in the face and it would still be better" (added by gmcharlt at 07:49 PM, September 13, 2011)
19:36 * mtompset laughs.
19:36 mtompset Greetings, andreashm
19:37 andreashm hi mtompset
19:37 mtompset Greetings, gmcharlt cait
19:37 cait hi andreashm, mtompset
19:41 andreashm I exported a few hundred bib records from Koha today, and then reimported the exportfile. Interestingly two of the records broke the import.
19:46 tcohen google inbox right truncation is not cool
19:46 tcohen Koha::Objec => 0 results
19:47 tcohen Koha::Objects => a couple dozens
19:48 cait andreashm: did you figure out why?
19:59 andreashm cait: koha complained about encoding in the 505 field... so I'm guessing that, but it still baffles me that the same data, just exported from Koha can't be imported again. oh well. =)
19:59 cait hm odd
19:59 cait we don't export a lot - how did you export?
19:59 tcohen hahaha
19:59 tcohen sorry
19:59 cait mostly only importing :)
19:59 tcohen we just talked with mtompset
20:00 tcohen about the difference between GetMarcBiblio and GetXmlBiblio
20:00 tcohen the difference between both
20:00 tcohen is that GetXmlBiblio is not doing any sanitization
20:00 andreashm I exported using the export bib tool
20:00 mtompset Wheeeee!
20:01 tcohen i'm pretty sure those functions are responsible for andreashm problem
20:01 tcohen he
20:01 tcohen coincidence
20:01 wahanui ...or enemy action...
20:01 andreashm tcohen: interesting!
20:01 wahanui hmmm... interesting is sometimes good and sometimes bad
20:01 andreashm ... mostly bad. =)
20:02 tcohen andreashm: fixable .-D
20:02 * tcohen is positive today
20:02 andreashm rad!
20:03 cait :)
20:06 mtompset tcohen: Is it because they didn't want to trigger the _koha_update_....whatever_it_was_silliness? ;)
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20:37 mtompset Now... Off to attempt various things.
20:38 mtompset Have a great day (24 hour period), #koha cait
20:38 cait i get an extra? :)
20:38 rangi @later tell tcohen yep I knew you were debugging, just people read emails and do it .. (not the people always intended) and I didn't want the last email in the thread
20:38 huginn rangi: The operation succeeded.
20:39 rangi @later tell tcohen to be to turn off the syspref (cos then people will do it, even when it's fixed .. if that makes sense?)
20:39 huginn rangi: The operation succeeded.
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22:01 mtj hey #koha, does anyone have a good reason why this great feature should not be enabled by default?
22:01 mtj bug 7511
22:01 wahanui bug 7511 is probably very impressie.
22:01 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7511 enhancement, P1 - high, ---, paul.poulain, CLOSED FIXED, Caching Templates
22:03 rangi only that no one ever wrote the patch to do it
22:03 rangi https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7533
22:03 huginn Bug 7533: enhancement, P3, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , T::T caching during installation
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22:03 rangi also it needs to be checked to make sure it works for multiple instances
22:03 rangi and the packages made aware of it
22:05 mtj hmm, yes... each instance might need it's own /tmp/instance dir
22:06 rangi it reads from the config
22:06 rangi so it should be fine as long as they all have different settings
22:06 rangi but needs to be checked
22:07 rangi and then it added to the conf, and populated etc
22:07 rangi then yeah, on by default amkes sense :)
22:07 mtj yes please
22:08 rangi but until someone writes those patches, it won't happen
22:09 mtj id be happy to write those patches, if people were ok with it being enabled by default
22:09 rangi needs to be tested
22:10 rangi with shared installs
22:10 rangi before people can be happy :)
22:10 mtj yep, understood :)
22:12 rangi for a start
22:12 rangi having it commented
22:12 rangi in the conf file is a good start
22:13 rangi because at the mo you have to go figure out what to type in there
22:17 mtj yep, i got it
22:25 mtj i guess the TT cache dirs would need to be added to koha-create-dirs, on boot.. etc
22:25 rangi yeah
22:25 rangi i think it explodes if it cant write to them for any reason
22:28 mtj rangi: do you remember that mysqltuner tool? ...  koha could really use something similar
22:29 mtj a tool to check a bunch of general and instance settings, and offer suggestions for improvements
22:30 rangi could do that
22:30 rangi "Tell your sysadmin to do this"
22:31 rangi :)
22:31 mtj yeah, intergrate that cmdline tool into
22:31 mtj would be handy for suggesting performace tweaks, too
22:32 rangi yep
22:32 rangi you know how we have the warning about not logging in as the db user?
22:32 mtj "hey, you seen to be missing TT caching, memcached, plack"
22:32 mtj yep ^
22:32 rangi one that warns about upgrading would be good too
22:33 rangi not all the time, some way to hide it
22:33 rangi but something on
22:33 rangi saying this version is 4 years old
22:33 rangi or something
22:33 wahanui i guess something is fishy
22:33 mtj YES!!
22:34 mtj now that would be good
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23:18 mtj hey nice, the TT cache feature creates its own dir under /tmp..  it seems to 'just work'
23:19 rangi one per instance?
23:19 mtj yeap, almost
23:20 mtj <template_cache_dir>/tmp/demo</template_cache_dir>
23:20 rangi not sure you want them in /tmp
23:20 mtj .. in the koha-conf.xml file, would create a /tmp/demo dir
23:20 rangi for the packages
23:20 rangi they should go in /var/lib/koha/instance/templates/  or something
23:21 rangi all the other stuff goes in /var/lib/koha (zebra indexes etc)
23:21 rangi i dont think there is any reason to kill them on reboot?
23:22 mtj yes, agreed :)
23:22 rangi another thing to test
23:22 rangi (im sure it is fine)
23:22 rangi is different languages
23:29 mtj looks like both of those things work ok - langs and /var/lib/koha/instance dir
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23:30 rangi sweet
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