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00:25 |
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rangi |
oh hey another idea |
00:25 |
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rangi |
mtj: it's all good with xslt eh? |
00:25 |
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rangi |
(i dont think it would touch it at all, but just in case) |
00:51 |
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mtj |
rangi: it looks ok with xslt enabled |
00:53 |
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mtj |
afaik, the TT caching is just 'compiling?' .tt files into .ttc files |
00:53 |
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mtj |
.. so, doesnt touch any xslt stuff :) |
01:15 |
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01:15 |
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rangi |
yeah, it shouldn't |
01:29 |
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mtj |
i spotted paul.p/joubu's discussion about moving the bi.marc/marcxml fields - the numbers are impressive |
01:37 |
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rangi |
yeah it should make a difference |
01:37 |
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rangi |
i tell you the single fastest way to speed up the OPAC |
01:37 |
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rangi |
turn off local cover images |
01:38 |
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rangi |
otherwise you get 20(or whatever number of results per page) hits on that script |
01:38 |
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rangi |
from 33secs to 6 |
01:39 |
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rangi |
just from turning that off |
01:39 |
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rangi |
of course it would be better to fix it, so it isnt that slow, and we could still do local cover |
01:39 |
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rangi |
s |
01:39 |
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rangi |
but if a library isnt actually using them, making sure that is off is a big improvement |
01:40 |
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rangi |
(opac-images.pl) |
01:40 |
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rangi |
sorry opac-image.pl |
01:40 |
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rangi |
i wonder if there is a bug for that |
01:50 |
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mtj |
ah yes... ive seen that in the logs |
01:51 |
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mtj |
..i thought someone was DOSing the server, at 1st |
01:51 |
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rangi |
exactly |
01:54 |
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mtj |
hmm, i guess plack would help with opac-images.pl startup? |
01:54 |
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rangi |
a little |
01:54 |
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rangi |
but not enough |
02:00 |
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rangi |
i think one trick is to get them to be fetched via ajax, so it doesnt slow down the whole page |
02:00 |
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rangi |
and then also, set headers like 304 |
02:01 |
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rangi |
so that if youve seen that cover, you dont get it again |
02:01 |
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rangi |
etc |
02:02 |
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rangi |
and because i think it touches bibloitems, it would get faster with the changes i think |
02:02 |
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rangi |
part of the problem is because it has to check if a localcover exists |
02:02 |
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rangi |
so if you have 30 local covers |
02:02 |
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rangi |
and 5 million not |
02:03 |
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rangi |
you still have to check every record in the results |
02:04 |
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rangi |
so if we got it so that the results knew |
02:04 |
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rangi |
ie, index if there is a local image, so we know |
02:04 |
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rangi |
then we dont have to check again |
02:05 |
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rangi |
we get the records to display the results, if we know it doesnt have a local cover right then, then why dont need to check |
02:05 |
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rangi |
does that make sense? |
02:06 |
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wizzyrea |
do you mean mysql index or zebra index or some other context of index like "mark it" |
02:07 |
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wizzyrea |
(I'm sorry if that's a silly question) |
02:07 |
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rangi |
well i think we get the full record object back for the restuls page, ie we get stuff from zebra, then we grab the actual data from the db and hand that to be displayed |
02:07 |
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rangi |
no reason we couldnt check local image exists as part of that |
02:07 |
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rangi |
then it could be just a 1:0 |
02:08 |
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rangi |
and we only put the img src if its 1 |
02:08 |
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rangi |
it'd still be slow if you had tons of them |
02:08 |
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rangi |
but i think thats gonna be the exception |
02:08 |
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rangi |
my guess is in my result sets you have 0 or maybe 1 or 2 |
02:08 |
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rangi |
which is better than doing 20 hits on opac-image |
02:10 |
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rangi |
just rubber ducking :) |
02:11 |
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wizzyrea |
yeah fair enough ^.^ |
02:33 |
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mtj |
yep, makes sense on both points |
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04:18 |
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mtj |
i like your ajax idea for opac-images.pl rangi |
04:18 |
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mtj |
... seems like a good quick/dirty solution, until a better fix happens |
04:18 |
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rangi |
it still is gonna dos you |
04:19 |
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rangi |
if a few people search at once, perhaps even faster than before |
04:19 |
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rangi |
so i kinda hate it as an idea now hehehe |
04:19 |
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rangi |
i think not fetching the image unless you know you have one is better ;) |
04:20 |
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mtj |
yeah |
04:25 |
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mtj |
..you are making me question the idea now too :) |
04:27 |
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wizzyrea |
it seems sad to me that we can get covers faster from amazon and that it's our own that cause problems :( |
04:28 |
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rangi |
or at least getting them from amazon puts no load on our system |
04:28 |
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wizzyrea |
that frowny face looks frownier than usual today |
04:28 |
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rangi |
the annoying thing with load, it spirals fast |
04:29 |
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rangi |
http://www.visawoap.com/burger-wellington/ |
04:29 |
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rangi |
interesting |
04:29 |
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wahanui |
i guess interesting is sometimes good and sometimes bad |
04:29 |
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wizzyrea |
the GP is not on that list! Shocking! |
04:29 |
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rangi |
yeah |
04:30 |
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rangi |
most of the ones i heard buzz about being great arent |
04:30 |
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rangi |
it's funny how that happens |
04:30 |
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wizzyrea |
tbf, I forgot to rate a couple of mine :/ |
04:30 |
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rangi |
*nod* |
04:30 |
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wizzyrea |
it could be our fault :'/ |
04:38 |
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mtj |
wizzyrea: whats the GP? |
04:38 |
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wahanui |
the GP is not on that list! Shocking! |
04:38 |
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wizzyrea |
General Practitioner, corner of manners and willis |
04:38 |
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mtj |
..also NZ pj harvey tickets on sale tmrw, doods |
04:39 |
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wizzyrea |
ohh |
04:39 |
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wizzyrea |
I wish I had funds for that >.< |
04:40 |
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rangi |
ditto |
04:41 |
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mtj |
http://www.undertheradar.co.nz[…]Zealand-Shows.utr |
04:51 |
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* wizzyrea |
cries a bit |
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teja |
koha software |
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* magnuse |
waves |
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reiveune |
hello |
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07:08 |
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alex_a |
Bonjour |
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07:09 |
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morgane |
hi #koha |
07:09 |
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fridolin |
hie |
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07:38 |
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magnuse |
@wunder boo |
07:38 |
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huginn |
magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 10.0°C (9:20 AM CEST on August 31, 2016). Conditions: Light Rain. Humidity: 94%. Dew Point: 9.0°C. Pressure: 29.62 in 1003 hPa (Steady). |
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09:10 |
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LibraryClaire |
morning #koha |
09:10 |
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cait |
morning LibraryClaire |
09:11 |
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LibraryClaire |
hi cait :) |
09:11 |
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cait |
:) |
09:13 |
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eythian |
hi LibraryClaire & cait |
09:13 |
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LibraryClaire |
hey eythian :) |
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09:23 |
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janPasi |
is it ok to change koha to marc mappings for publishercode in biblioitems table or will that break something? |
09:24 |
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janPasi |
we would like to use 028b here instead of the koha default 260b |
09:24 |
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cait |
it won't break things - but it won't apply immediately to records already in the system |
09:24 |
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Joubu |
should be ok |
09:24 |
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cait |
thhere is a job you can run to do that |
09:24 |
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janPasi |
cait: yeah, i know, it needs running the script to make it happen for the old records |
09:25 |
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janPasi |
i can't recall the name of the script, but i think i can find it again :D |
09:26 |
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janPasi |
thanks, we'll try that :) |
09:26 |
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cait |
REbuild...Bibllio sth |
09:26 |
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janPasi |
yeah |
09:26 |
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cait |
i think it's in misc or bin depending on your installation |
09:26 |
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cait |
i was looking at it yesterday |
09:28 |
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janPasi |
yeah, i think it's in misc somewere :D |
09:28 |
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Joubu |
misc/batchRebuildBiblioTables.pl |
09:28 |
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janPasi |
Joubu: cool, thanks :) |
09:28 |
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Joubu |
and misc/batchRebuildItemsTables.pl I guess |
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marcelr |
hi #koha |
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oleonard |
Hi #koha |
11:47 |
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marcelr |
hi oleopard |
11:56 |
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magnuse |
hi o'leopard |
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eythian |
olé, pard |
12:04 |
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eythian |
@wunder ams |
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huginn |
eythian: The current temperature in Schiphol, Badhoevedorp, Netherlands is 25.0°C (1:52 PM CEST on August 31, 2016). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 49%. Dew Point: 13.0°C. Pressure: 30.09 in 1019 hPa (Steady). |
12:05 |
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magnuse |
@wunder boo |
12:05 |
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huginn |
magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 13.0°C (1:50 PM CEST on August 31, 2016). Conditions: Light Rain. Humidity: 94%. Dew Point: 12.0°C. Pressure: 29.56 in 1001 hPa (Steady). |
12:05 |
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magnuse |
oh, it's possible to delete the AnonymousPatron? |
12:05 |
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magnuse |
shouldn't that be kind of easy to block? |
12:05 |
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eythian |
yeah, but you can't delete the HeadlessHorseman |
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oleonard |
It would be nice to be able to block deletion of any selected patron |
12:06 |
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magnuse |
ooh, there is a syspref for that? |
12:06 |
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magnuse |
ah donotdelete checkbox on each patron? sounds like a good idea, yeah |
12:11 |
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LibraryClaire |
@wunder LCY |
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huginn |
LibraryClaire: The current temperature in London City, United Kingdom is 22.0°C (12:50 PM BST on August 31, 2016). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 50%. Dew Point: 11.0°C. Pressure: 30.12 in 1020 hPa (Steady). |
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12:25 |
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magnuse |
nengard! |
12:25 |
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wahanui |
somebody said nengard was fast |
12:25 |
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nengard |
morning magnuse |
12:25 |
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nengard |
how are you?? :) |
12:25 |
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magnuse |
good! |
12:26 |
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magnuse |
and yerself? missing us yet? ;-) |
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tcohen |
hola #koha |
12:31 |
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tcohen |
@later tell rangi I got the point on the first read. I answered that only so it is in the logs too |
12:31 |
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huginn |
tcohen: The operation succeeded. |
12:31 |
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nengard |
magnuse, I'm here every day :) nothing to miss :) hehe |
12:31 |
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nengard |
but I am loving my new job :) |
12:32 |
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LibraryClaire |
hi tcohen :) |
12:32 |
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tcohen |
hi LibraryClaire |
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12:33 |
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magnuse |
nengard: that is good to hear :-) |
12:34 |
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eythian |
wahanui: australia is <reply>http://www.sbs.com.au/comedy/a[…]e-innocent-family |
12:34 |
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wahanui |
...but australia is pretty great in a lot of ways, but they are woefully deficient in the pierogi department...|https://twitter.com/BR3NDA/sta[…]633284096/photo/1... |
12:34 |
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eythian |
wahanui: australia is also <reply>http://www.sbs.com.au/comedy/a[…]e-innocent-family |
12:34 |
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wahanui |
okay, eythian. |
12:38 |
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oleonard |
As opposed to the time a hawk threw a snake at a family who totally deserved it. |
12:38 |
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oleonard |
(which is so common in Australia as to not make the news) |
12:39 |
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jcamins |
oleonard: good point. |
12:44 |
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LibraryClaire |
terrifying |
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cait |
@later tell drojf ping! |
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huginn |
cait: The operation succeeded. |
12:55 |
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tcohen |
I don't think blou's comment about documentation is correct |
12:59 |
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Joubu |
the entry points are hard to find |
12:59 |
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tcohen |
probably, but we are all around to answer about those |
13:00 |
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Joubu |
yep yep |
13:00 |
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tcohen |
I accept we should think about improving documentation |
13:00 |
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* tcohen |
is not on denial |
13:00 |
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Joubu |
and patches are waiting for signoff for a while (before the ground has been pushed) |
13:01 |
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Joubu |
have to go, I will be afk for the next of the week. I had to get some rest or submit a very big patchset, I referred to postpone the submission :D |
13:01 |
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Joubu |
prefered |
13:02 |
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tcohen |
hehe |
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tcohen |
have a nice whatever you're gonna do |
13:02 |
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mtompset |
Greetings, #koha. |
13:03 |
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mtompset |
Sorry, tcohen, I didn't get to it yet. |
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mtompset |
I got distracted by a bigger problem! |
13:03 |
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mtompset |
check in |
13:03 |
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wahanui |
i heard check in was different though. |
13:03 |
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mtompset |
check out |
13:03 |
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mtompset |
restart mysql server |
13:03 |
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mtompset |
Oops... got that backwards... |
13:03 |
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magnuse |
have fun Joubu! |
13:04 |
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mtompset |
check out, check in, restart mysql server, check out, check in... old_issues bug! |
13:04 |
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mtompset |
InnoDb forgets its highest auto_increment after server restart! |
13:05 |
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mtompset |
Any ideas on the best way to solve it? |
13:07 |
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marcelr |
Joubu: still looking at bug 15758 |
13:07 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=15758 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Signed Off , Move the C4::Branch related code to Koha::Libraries - part 4 |
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marcelr |
almost done |
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oleonard |
marcelr++ |
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marcelr |
oleonard++ for testing it |
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barton |
good morning #koha! |
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oleonard |
Hi barton |
13:33 |
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nengard |
morning barton |
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marcelr |
hi barton |
13:34 |
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barton |
I'm looking at bug 16581... I think there's still a number of un-answered questions there... |
13:34 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=16581 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, RESOLVED WONTFIX, ICU tokenization bug in idzebra-2.0 2.0.59-1 |
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marcelr |
mtompset: nasty problem, any chance of more issues cause of that? |
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mtompset |
anything with an old_! |
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marcelr |
barton: i did not understand why it was closed either |
13:35 |
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mtompset |
because if we are moving from one to the other, we'll hit overlap and lose history. |
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marcelr |
well an argument to stop with those deleted tables |
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mtompset |
A strong one. |
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barton |
so here are the things that I'm wondering about: 1) is it possible to require the use of the indexdata repo? 2) what version of idzebra-2.0 *should* we be using? |
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mtompset |
1) why not? It's a good idea, 2) the current one -- I think something 62? |
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oleonard |
khall around? |
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nengard |
oh good he's ignoring you too :) hehehe |
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oleonard |
@later tell khall Bug 16903 says it has been pushed to master but I don't think it really has. |
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huginn |
oleonard: The operation succeeded. |
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mtompset |
Oh, and sorry for not doing it sooner. Greetings, oleonard nengard marcelr barton magnuse mario JesseM amyk :) |
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mtompset |
Apologies. Greetings, JoshB too. :) |
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marcelr |
bye |
14:02 |
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mtompset |
Bye. :) |
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JesseM |
Hello |
14:02 |
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JoshB |
hello |
14:02 |
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amyk |
greatings all! :-) |
14:02 |
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amyk |
oops |
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JesseM |
oleonard: khall is on vacation |
14:02 |
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amyk |
greetings! not awake yet ;-) |
14:03 |
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tcohen |
hi amyk JesseM |
14:03 |
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amyk |
hi nengard! |
14:03 |
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amyk |
hi tcohen |
14:03 |
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JesseM |
Hi tcohen |
14:03 |
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nengard |
yeah!! it's morning love fest :) hehe |
14:03 |
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nengard |
hi all! |
14:03 |
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nengard |
I miss this |
14:03 |
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amyk |
:-) |
14:03 |
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nengard |
at the new job we're all on so many calls that we hardly talk in IRC |
14:03 |
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oleonard |
calls-- |
14:04 |
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barton |
oleonard, nengard khall is out; he'll be back Friday. |
14:04 |
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nengard |
oh, okay :) |
14:04 |
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nengard |
and yes oleonard |
14:07 |
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mtompset |
OH! I'm not awake either. nengard! |
14:08 |
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mtompset |
How is the new job going? |
14:13 |
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nengard |
a-ok |
14:13 |
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nengard |
lovign my team and the work |
14:16 |
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oleonard |
And the hat, nengard? Don't foget the hat! |
14:16 |
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* oleonard |
assumes nengard wears it 9-5 every day now |
14:17 |
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* oleonard |
spends the rest of his day feverishly working on designs for a Koha hat |
14:18 |
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nengard |
ha |
14:18 |
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nengard |
that as kind of a lie ... it wasn't my hat - mine is still on the way |
14:19 |
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nengard |
was not as |
14:19 |
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eythian |
barton: requiring the use of another repository is not trivial, and not something I would expect drojf to be comfortable automating. |
14:19 |
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eythian |
I suspect it is wontfix because it's not feasible to fix from Koha's POV. |
14:22 |
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barton |
eythian: I see... so the proper avenue would probably be to file bugs with debian and indexdata to get idzebra-2.0 upgraded in jessie? |
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eythian |
https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bi[…]rt.cgi?bug=777515 <-- like this :) |
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eythian |
which unfortunately got no response. |
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eythian |
it's not something indexdata has control over |
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eythian |
My suggestion would be to have a warning in the staff client about page if a particular zebra version is in use that links to a wiki page with some resolutions, for example maybe a debian backport could be arranged. |
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eythian |
Or maybe just prodding the maintainer to see what he suggests |
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tcohen |
anyone to talk about the REST api and permissions? |
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* kidclamp |
waves |
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oleonard |
kidclamp: Are you sick of fielding questions from me about Coce yet? |
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kidclamp |
not yet |
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kidclamp |
what's the question oleonard |
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oleonard |
I'm still getting mixed http/https results from Amazon: https://search.myacpl.org/cgi-[…]&q=dogs&offset=40 |
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oleonard |
Some covers from https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com, some from http://ecx.images-amazon.com |
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oleonard |
Do you know anything about that? |
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oleonard |
Or perhaps fredericd does? |
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kidclamp |
my guess, without looking into code, is that image links previously cached are http |
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kidclamp |
and new ones are pulled using https |
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kidclamp |
so as the links expire the issue will resolve itself |
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kidclamp |
or I can try to flush the amazon storage, but I don't know off top of my head |
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oleonard |
Out of curiosity, do you know what the lifetime of links is? |
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mtompset |
oleonard: ecx doesn't exist in git. Is it in a system preference? |
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oleonard |
mtompset: https://github.com/fredericd/coce |
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kidclamp |
86400000 seconds |
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mtompset |
Okay... external git... :) |
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kidclamp |
1000 days |
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oleonard |
Wow that's a long time |
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kidclamp |
I think it was to counter the fact that initial fetch doesn't load images |
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kidclamp |
when you do a new search coce gets the linkss, but doesn't display them until the next access |
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kidclamp |
so we keep them a long time to increase results displayed |
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kidclamp |
looking into how I can clear the amazon links oleonard, but not overfly familiar with redis |
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oleonard |
It's not a high priority kidclamp, but I would like to clear up those warnings. |
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kidclamp |
can you open a ticket oleonard - that will keep it on my radart |
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oleonard |
Sure, thanks. |
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bye #koha |
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reiveune |
bye |
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kidclamp |
around oleonard? |
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oleonard |
Yes |
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kidclamp |
bug 14060 - I don't think we should warn on closing datepicker if no date is selected |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=14060 normal, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Signed Off , Remove readonly on date inputs |
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kidclamp |
just wanted your thought |
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oleonard |
Agreed. I didn't notice that when I tested. |
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kidclamp |
Okay, FQA for now, but works well elsewise |
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CrispyBran |
Question for the room: How does one determine how Koha and when Koha calculates overdue and long overdue statuses? Is it on the fly, or is it done by a cron job? |
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eythian |
Pretty sure it's a cron job |
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CrispyBran |
Sorry, app issues. :/ |
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CrispyBran |
If anyone responded to my question, I missed it. :( |
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mtompset |
CrispyBran: It's a cronjob. |
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mtompset |
It's in /etc/cron*/koha-common I put *, because I don't know which one has it. :) |
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mtompset |
Have a great day (24 hour period), #koha. |
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* andreashm |
waves |
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* cait |
waves back |
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Mauricio_BR |
Hola a todos buenas tardes. alguien habla español? |
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Mauricio_BR |
please i need to know where is stored the 856 marc-tag in the koha database schema... |
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eythian |
@marc 856 |
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huginn |
eythian: The information needed to locate and access an electronic resource. The field may be used in a bibliographic record for a resource when that resource or a subset of it is available electronically. In addition, it may be used to locate and access an electronic version of a non-electronic resource described in the bibliographic record or a related electronic resource. (Repeatable) (1 more message) |
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eythian |
@more |
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huginn |
eythian: [a,b,c,d,f,h,i,j,k,l,m,n,o,p,q,r,s,t,u,v,w,x,y,z,2,3,6,8] |
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kidclamp |
Mauricio_BR 856$u is likely mapped to / stored in biblioitems.uri in the DB |
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kidclamp |
make that url |
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Mauricio_BR |
thank you kodclamp, the thing is that I stored the url-cover in 856a |
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Mauricio_BR |
but i do not know where the 856a marc-tag is stored in the database schema |
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kidclamp |
if not mapped to a koha field it is stored in the full record / marcxml field in biblioitems |
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Mauricio_BR |
and can i map the 856a as a koha field after import a .mrc file? |
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kidclamp |
you can alter the mapping, but then you will need to run a script to rebuild the db from the biblios |
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Mauricio_BR |
mmm ok i see, thank you |
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tcohen |
hi kiwis |
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wizzyrea |
hi tcohen :) |
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tcohen |
hey wizzyrea |
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wahanui |
i think wizzyrea is so dumb at rewrite rules |
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tcohen |
wahanui: i don't belive you |
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wahanui |
tcohen: what? |
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wizzyrea |
still mostly true |
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wizzyrea |
^.^ |
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tcohen |
wahanui: what you heard |
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wahanui |
tcohen: wish i knew |
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tcohen |
no one understands rewrite rules |
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tcohen |
or at least everyone has to review the docs each time |
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tcohen |
i'm sure |
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wizzyrea |
hehe |
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wizzyrea |
I"m still not sure I solved the problem that precipitated that original statement |
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wizzyrea |
this thread on developer problems is highly interesting |
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tcohen |
which one? |
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wahanui |
which one is t? |
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wizzyrea |
the one about koha-zebra-jessie |
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wizzyrea |
and "why is this so haaaard" |
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tcohen |
hahaha |
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wizzyrea |
(I was having a moan about this yesterday, independent of this) |
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wizzyrea |
it is reasonably hard to test things like elasticsearch |
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wizzyrea |
and plack. And any dev that touches lots of things |
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wizzyrea |
(the "advanced cataloguing interface" comes to mind) |
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tcohen |
yes, they are hard |
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tcohen |
and it is not the rest of the devs' fault |
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tcohen |
only for making it easy to test plack i re-did the kohadevbox |
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tcohen |
I struggle more with the fact that devs are done in environments that don't match production, than with difficult bugs |
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wizzyrea |
*nod* the lack of a really good production scale dataset is a serious problem |
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tcohen |
dataset, library versions, previous tries cruft, etc |
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wizzyrea |
thousands of borrowers, tens of thousands of records |
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wizzyrea |
hundreds of thousands of issues/old_issues |
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wizzyrea |
hundreds of reserves |
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wizzyrea |
nonlinear upgrades |
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wizzyrea |
and on and on |
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tcohen |
if we had a complete test suite |
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tcohen |
that should happen on jenkins |
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tcohen |
and is completely do-able |
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wizzyrea |
a good place to start maybe, would be to take say the members tests and build it up to not do like, one issue and return, but hundreds |
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wizzyrea |
or tens at the very least |
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tcohen |
you need to first think 'what question would you like the tests to answer' |
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wizzyrea |
I want a tool off the side that basically simulates a day at the library |
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wizzyrea |
users added, users removed, biblios/items added/removed, reserves added/filled/waiting/deleted/suspended, issues and returns |
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wizzyrea |
note I'm not asking you to write that. |
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wizzyrea |
^.^ |
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tcohen |
hehe |
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tcohen |
you want t/db_dependent/selenium/basic_workflow.t |
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tcohen |
at least extending it |
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wizzyrea |
oh true, I didn't realise that was there. |
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wizzyrea |
Oh and that's another problem |
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tcohen |
? |
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wizzyrea |
keeping on top of every new thing. :) |
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tcohen |
ah |
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tcohen |
he |
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tcohen |
it needs to be around, daily |
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tcohen |
otherwise you loose track |
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tcohen |
that's true |
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tcohen |
that was what I tried to reply to blou |
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wizzyrea |
even I just simply don't have enough spoons for all the things that I should be on top of. |
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* tcohen |
knows about that |
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rangi |
hey hey |
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wahanui |
niihau, rangi |
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rangi |
guess who moved into number 2 pushing liblime down in the companies list today |
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rangi |
http://git.koha-community.org/[…]ommits_by_domains |
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tcohen |
:-D |
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tcohen |
catalyst++ |
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tcohen |
google is close too :-P |
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rangi |
hehe yeah, if you combine ? and gmail .. the unknowns are 2nd :) |
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rangi |
how cool is it that a library myacpl is 4th though |
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tcohen |
oleonard is awesome :-D |
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rangi |
but also, 2 directors now, who have let him do that |
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rangi |
thats pretty amazing |
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tcohen |
true |
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tcohen |
bye #koha |
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rangi |
cya tcohen |
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