IRC log for #koha, 2016-08-12

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05:38 dcook Ugh, I hate CRUD
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06:39 marcelr hi #koha
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06:42 morgane hi #koha :)
06:45 marcelr hi morgane
06:45 morgane hi marcelr
06:45 marcelr :)
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07:12 gaetan_B hello
07:17 * cait waves
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07:27 marcelr hi cait gaetan_B
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07:34 drojf morning #koha
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07:40 LibraryClaire morning #koha
07:41 drojf guten morgen LibraryClaire
07:41 LibraryClaire hi drojf
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07:44 LibraryClaire hi cait
07:46 * magnuse waves
07:51 * LibraryClaire waves
08:01 drojf hi cait and magnuse
08:12 magnuse moin drojf
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08:53 drojf Joubu: sorry for spamming with bug 17084. i'm done soon, testint a few changes
08:53 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=17084 trivial, P5 - low, ---, mirko, Passed QA , Automatic debian/control updates (master)
08:53 drojf *testing
08:54 Joubu no worries, I do not read what's going on there :)
09:05 marcelr Joubu: I will paste a small error on bug 15407; please solve it in a follow-up
09:05 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=15407 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Signed Off , Move the patron categories related code to Koha::Patron::Categories - part 2
09:06 cait :)
09:07 * cait likes busy #koha
09:08 magnuse :-)
09:15 Joubu marcelr: no idea what to do
09:15 marcelr you're kidding
09:16 marcelr crit=>"\%cathash
09:16 Joubu no :)
09:16 marcelr where is cathash?
09:16 Joubu yes but it seems that we should keep it filled
09:16 Joubu I understand the problem, but do not know how to fix it quickly
09:16 drojf cat and hash. a winning combination
09:17 marcelr with something undefined?
09:17 marcelr at least pass {} :)
09:17 Joubu it seems that crit should be filled with the patron cat, don't you think?
09:17 marcelr should have a better look, trusting you here
09:18 marcelr will examine your followup later :)
09:18 Joubu marcelr: it's just a string actually :)
09:19 Joubu So I guess it was expected, not to change the string (wherever it will be displayed)
09:32 Joubu marcelr: agreed?
09:34 marcelr Joubu: please submit your change, I will have a look
09:34 marcelr i am in the second patch still
09:36 Joubu marcelr: there is no change
09:37 marcelr why not
09:37 marcelr the var does not exist !
09:37 Joubu it's just a string, so let it like it was before
09:37 Joubu I can replace with with "foobar" if you like, but not sure it will be more relevant :)
09:37 Joubu s/with/it
09:39 marcelr hmm
09:39 marcelr i prefer foobar above cathash, that is sure
09:39 marcelr :)
09:40 marcelr somewhere else they put Query in
09:43 marcelr Joubu: I prefer just the string Patron category actually
09:43 marcelr it is just a <p> in the template
09:44 marcelr criteria loopfilter
09:44 marcelr translatability is another topic
09:45 Joubu marcelr: will submit a followup soon (~5min)
09:48 marcelr ok Joubu; i have some more work coming for you ;)
09:53 Joubu s/work/fun
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10:00 Joubu marcelr: I am not sure why GetName is gone actually
10:00 Joubu looks like a merge conflict issue
10:01 marcelr ok you can also add it again
10:01 Joubu marcelr: I will amend the patch, ok for you?
10:01 marcelr no please add a follow-up
10:01 Joubu k
10:01 marcelr i am in the middle somewhere
10:02 marcelr easier while doing things in parallel
10:04 marcelr Joubu: we will have some merge conflict with Ratings (the other one already in PQA)
10:07 Joubu marcelr: follow-up added, feel free to squash it with the original patch to clean the git log
10:07 marcelr thx
10:07 Joubu marcelr: what kind of conflicts? use statements or more?
10:08 marcelr on the test
10:08 marcelr wasn't it moved
10:12 marcelr Joubu: please help me again :)
10:12 marcelr Reserves.t
10:12 Joubu yep?
10:12 wahanui yep.
10:19 Joubu marcelr: looks like a master bug
10:19 marcelr ok can be it is not your change
10:19 marcelr maybe open a report ?
10:20 Joubu marcelr: yep, will do
10:26 marcelr Joubu: almost done but lunch goes first :)
10:28 Joubu marcelr: duplicate of bug 16942 I guess
10:28 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=16942 major, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Failed QA , Confirm hold results in ugly error
10:54 magnuse have fun #koha - see y'all in a couple weeks!
10:55 drojf huh?
10:55 drojf didn't magnuse just say that a couple of weeks ago?
10:56 cait yeah
10:59 drojf i hope he has another holiday :)
11:00 cait I think so :)
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11:45 Tylathos nice :D now my virtualbox won't work -.-'
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11:49 marcelr @later tell khall please put bug 15407 on your early push list; thx
11:49 huginn marcelr: The operation succeeded.
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11:52 oleonard Hi #koha
11:54 LibraryClaire hi oleonard :)
11:56 marcelr bye #koha
11:56 oleonard Joubu: Did you see my question on Bug 16763?
11:56 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=16763 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Failed QA , Remove the use of "onclick" from record matching rules form
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12:06 * kidclamp waves
12:06 oleonard Hi kidclamp
12:06 kidclamp morning oleonard, how goes it?
12:07 * LibraryClaire waves
12:07 oleonard Going fine kidclamp, how about you?
12:07 kidclamp hi LibraryClaire
12:07 kidclamp hot but otherwise well
12:07 Joubu oleonard: no I did not!
12:08 kidclamp Hi Joubu
12:08 Joubu hi kidclamp :)
12:09 kidclamp question for you, how do you go about getting memcache working with plack?
12:09 Joubu kidclamp: I use plackup with misc/plack/koha.psgi
12:09 Joubu which contains 29 $ENV{MEMCACHED_SERVERS} = "localhost:11211";
12:09 kidclamp Ah, so  I am right that you can't use koha-plack and expect memcached
12:10 kidclamp or you need to add the memcached envs into koha-plack
12:11 kidclamp bug 16579 definitely is an improvement
12:11 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=16579 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, In Discussion , Use separate memcached namespace for caching koha-conf.xml
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12:13 Joubu kidclamp: did you try to koha-create with --use-memcached?
12:15 kidclamp joubu not sure - I was testing in kohadevbox so likely not, and I don't know on the other site we were testing
12:15 kidclamp does that set envs so the package command works?
12:18 Joubu It looks like it's what it does yes
12:20 kidclamp hmm...USE_MEMCACHED set as yes in the koha-sites.conf, it looks like those envs still never come through to koha-plack though, at least I can't make it happen
12:20 kidclamp plackup seems to work fine
12:29 Joubu kidclamp: it looks to work with my kohadevbox
12:30 Joubu kidclamp: put warn "IS CACHED!"; in Koha::Cache l.150 (just before the return)
12:33 Joubu oleonard: just answered, tell me if it's still not clear
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12:34 kidclamp yeah, i set DEBUG=1 and the select caching system is Cache::Memory
12:35 oleonard Thanks Joubu I will take another look
12:38 Joubu kidclamp: I get:
12:38 Joubu Selected caching system: Cache::Memory=HASH(0x26c8f20) at /home/vagrant/kohaclone/C4/ line 514.
12:38 Joubu on restarting plack
12:38 Joubu but
12:38 Joubu Default caching system: memcached at /home/vagrant/kohaclone/C4/ line 514
12:39 Joubu when I hit koha mainpage
12:39 Joubu forget that, it's not useful
12:41 kidclamp :-)
12:42 Joubu kidclamp: the koha-create cmd used by kohadevbox does not pass --use-memcached, it would be good to test if passing it correctly set it
12:46 kidclamp creating a  second instance with --use-memcached seems to have the same result
12:47 Joubu @later tell tcohen ping!
12:47 huginn Joubu: The operation succeeded.
12:47 Joubu :)
12:48 kidclamp If I drop the ENV variables in to koha-plack it works, it should be possible to do that
12:48 kidclamp or we should just pass your bug :-)
12:49 Joubu heh :)
12:49 Joubu kidclamp: feel free! :D
12:49 kidclamp reading it over it looks good, but should test more too
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13:18 andreashm anyone around who is good at record matching rules?
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13:24 cait around... but not good
13:24 cait what's the problem?
13:24 wahanui the problem is it's human beings doing it. Rebuild your indexes.
13:25 * druthb gives wahanui a cookie
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13:32 andreashm cait: well, for starters I'm wondering if there actually is a normalization rule? or if anything that is put into that field is useless?
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13:35 * druthb sees talljoy, and waves frantically.
13:35 talljoy hiya!!
13:36 talljoy whats up druthb
13:36 druthb not much.  lazy day off.  :P
13:36 talljoy noice!!
13:37 cait talljoy: might know this
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13:37 cait andreashm: i don't know it :)
13:37 talljoy whats that?
13:37 wahanui i think that is fine
13:37 cait talljoy: does the normalization rule n the matching rules do something?
13:38 talljoy my understanding is that it only works for isbn
13:38 andreashm ok thanks
13:39 andreashm my second question is then if required match checks match against zebra indexes or directly against the database? the documentation is unclear.
13:39 andreashm and if it is possible to build a rule using only match checks, not having any match point?
13:39 andreashm (we would like to match using 035a, which is proving difficult)
13:46 andreashm cait or talljoy, maybe?
13:47 talljoy ok
13:47 talljoy I don't believe you can have matchcheck only rules.
13:48 talljoy we have had to add the 035 to the standard number indexes on sites where they need to match on the 035$a
13:48 talljoy my understanding of matchchecks is that you need to come up with a match based on the rules, then the matchcheck is the final check of the record it matched to the record you are importing.
13:48 talljoy so it has to have something matched first.
13:49 andreashm thanks talljoy
13:49 talljoy yw
13:50 Tylathos Yeah ^.^ my virtual machine is corrupt, and all work from yesterday is lost -.-'
13:51 * cait sends Tylathos cookies
13:51 cait andreashm: i agree with joy - it's done against indexes
13:51 cait the matching fails for us when zebra is down
13:52 andreashm cait: good to know, danke!
13:52 Tylathos cait: thx ^^
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14:17 cait bye all
14:17 LibraryClaire bye
14:17 drojf bye cait
14:18 drojf early weekend? :P
14:18 cait yeah... time to go home and stay in bed
14:18 * cait got a cold :(
14:18 LibraryClaire :(
14:19 drojf feel better!
14:19 cait thx :) will try
14:19 cait i hope I'll feel better tomorrow - we got the big fireworks on the lake tomorrow night
14:19 drojf oh nic
14:19 drojf nice
14:20 LibraryClaire yay, fireworks
14:22 cait :)
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14:38 oleonard I wonder if anyone still uses
14:39 drojf i think i have used that somewhen 6 years ago. the word cloud thing?
14:40 oleonard Yes. Generates static HTML files
14:40 oleonard The example conf file doesn't work for me so I'm not sure if it still works
14:40 drojf sounds like tech of the future :P
14:42 oleonard Hey static site generators are all the rage these days
14:45 eythian I think ES might let you access stuff to make word clouds. Don't quote me on that though.
14:45 drojf you have to run a command line script to generate the file. and choose which field to use. AFAIR
14:45 drojf yes i thought ES could probably just do that in the fl
14:45 drojf fly
14:46 drojf if it is broken right now and nobody complained… koha does not need it anyway
14:46 oleonard I would sooner delete and close outstanding bugs related to it if I knew no one used it.
14:46 drojf if you delete it you will find out
14:47 * oleonard doesn't care about word clouds
14:47 drojf what have word clouds ever done for us?
14:48 drojf @wunder txl
14:48 huginn drojf: The current temperature in Rue du Capitaine Jean Maridor, Berlin, Germany is 20.7°C (4:41 PM CEST on August 12, 2016). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 66%. Dew Point: 14.0°C. Pressure: 30.15 in 1021 hPa (Steady).
14:48 drojf mostly word cloudy
14:48 oleonard @wunder 45701
14:48 huginn oleonard: The current temperature in Longview Hts, Athens, Ohio is 35.1°C (10:48 AM EDT on August 12, 2016). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 54%. Dew Point: 25.0°C. Pressure: 30.00 in 1016 hPa (Steady). Heat advisory in effect until 8 PM EDT this evening...
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14:52 drojf oleonard: that is only a cronjob? what is the url in koha supposed to be?
14:52 oleonard Nothing, I guess.
14:53 drojf Output: /home/koha/yourlibrary/koharoo​t/koha-tmpl/cloud-subject.html
14:57 drojf i think i don't want to know
14:57 * drojf gives up on the cloud
14:57 drojf cait: go to bed
14:57 wahanui[…]12/04/penguin.gif
14:57 cait :)
14:57 drojf not sure how that gif matches what i said but it's cute anyway
14:58 LibraryClaire @wunder LCY
14:58 huginn LibraryClaire: The current temperature in London City, United Kingdom is 28.0°C (3:50 PM BST on August 12, 2016). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 30%. Dew Point: 9.0°C. Pressure: 30.18 in 1022 hPa (Steady).
14:58 LibraryClaire eurgh
14:59 drojf you got all the summer
14:59 LibraryClaire apparently
14:59 wahanui apparently is vitally important to librarians
14:59 * LibraryClaire pokes wahanui
14:59 wahanui ouch!
14:59 LibraryClaire we're meant to have another 'heatwave' over the weekend
14:59 cait @wunder Konstanz
14:59 huginn cait: The current temperature in LuisenstraÃ&#376;e, Konstanz, Germany is 21.7°C (4:52 PM CEST on August 12, 2016). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 62%. Dew Point: 14.0°C. Pressure: 30.36 in 1028 hPa (Steady).
15:00 cait not so warm here currently
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15:00 LibraryClaire Wishing I wasn't wearing jeans and a jumper. It was not this warm this morning
15:00 * LibraryClaire grumbles
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15:09 Tylathos Yes! Now i'm ready to make my first patch ^^ (for koha)
15:16 * drojf waits
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15:20 * cait cheers Tylathos on
15:22 Tylathos writing the testplane :D it's annoying :D
15:23 drojf testers love test plans
15:25 Tylathos i crashed my git i think :D
15:25 Tylathos he writes endlessly y :D
15:27 Tylathos https://wiki.koha-community.or[…]Control_Using_Git <== im following this guide.
15:28 Tylathos is the part git send-email still necessary or should it be enough to push it to the bug at bugzilla?
15:28 kidclamp ignore the mailing patch part Tylathos
15:28 Tylathos Good :)
15:28 kidclamp use this: https://wiki.koha-community.or[…]_bz_configuration
15:28 kidclamp much easier for attaching patches
15:28 Tylathos kidclamp: thx ^^
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15:36 Tylathos Yeah it worked :D
15:36 drojf oleonard: your link gives me      The search named 3.x Unmaintained       does not exist.
15:36 drojf from the devel list
15:36 oleonard :(
15:37 oleonard Maybe I shared it incorrectly. Anyone know what group I should share it with? editbugs, Koha, Testers?
15:37 drojf Tylathos: you should set the bug status to "needs signoff"
15:37 Tylathos drojf: yes i was looking at the moment what to do next :D
15:38 oleonard drojf: Can you try it again?
15:38 Tylathos Ah **** i forget to add sponsered by :D
15:39 drojf you can amend your patch and send it again
15:39 drojf oleonard: the same url?
15:39 oleonard yes
15:39 drojf same
15:40 drojf The search named 3.x Unmaintained does not exist.
15:40 oleonard How about now?
15:40 wahanui hey now now, sing this corrosion to me
15:40 drojf no
15:40 drojf :/
15:41 oleonard Well then, I guess I can't share a saved search.
15:41 drojf :(
15:42 drojf https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]=run&sharer_id=12
15:42 drojf that worked for me
15:42 drojf i got it from the list of shared searches
15:47 Tylathos So now -.-' I know why at work mostly other persons do this kind of work for me :D
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16:20 drojf when i check in stuff from within patron details, the whole checkin message thing does not work. is it supposed to be like that?
16:21 drojf (found it while (testing Tylathos' bug but it's a general question)
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16:27 Tylathos drojf: my first  thought is that when you check in from the patron detail, the check in is made without calling the
16:28 drojf but it seems weird to have a message in one place and not in the other. and in your case, people can override the whole quesion
16:29 drojf not your fault, it seems to be the general structure. just wondering
16:29 Tylathos i think they can also override holds in that case
16:29 drojf what you could do is add some kind of message when the anwer is "no". because atm there is nothing that indicates what happened after you click it
16:30 drojf apart from that, it seems to work for me
16:31 Tylathos thats a good idea :)
16:36 cait drojf: i think the return from patron details misses some other things as well
16:37 drojf cait: so if i want to avoid that i have to block circulation people from borrower permissions?
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16:47 Tylathos wow -.-' git bz didn't take my last change, and displayed the compltly text again -.-'
16:48 Tylathos drojf: should i change the status again, becaus of the new changes? (quit unsure and feeling stupid atm)
16:50 cait hm which bug number?
16:50 wahanui hmmm... which bug number is it?
16:50 * cait can take a look
16:50 drojf Tylathos: yep, so people know there is more to signoff
16:50 Tylathos 17101
16:50 cait drojf: um no idea - some hide the column with jquery i think
16:50 drojf Tylathos: you shoukd indicate it's a followup and what it changes /adds in the commit message
16:51 * cait let's drojf handle it
16:51 cait :)
16:51 cait but Tylathos++ - doing well there it seems :)
16:51 drojf cait: you can start QA :P
16:52 cait someone told me not to work :)
16:52 drojf oh
16:52 drojf yeah
16:52 drojf right
16:52 drojf oops
16:58 Tylathos drojf: is there a way to change the name of the attachment with git bz?
16:59 drojf Tylathos: now it has kind of inconstistent behaviour between message types. some display a message when the checkin was successful (yours), others don't. for consistency i think it would be better to display it in the style that is used now. after checkin there is "Checked-in items" with a table. you could use the same style for the headline and just say that no items were checked in. or show the table and say what was not checked in explicitly, but
17:00 drojf you can go to details and edit
17:00 drojf in BZ
17:00 drojf or what do you mean?
17:01 drojf do you want to change the info for the one that is there? you can just obsolete it and attach a new one from git bz
17:01 Tylathos drojf: oh i see. I will correct both :9
17:14 gaetan_B bye
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19:04 mtompset @seen wizzyrea
19:04 huginn mtompset: wizzyrea was last seen in #koha 2 days, 21 hours, 17 minutes, and 8 seconds ago: * wizzyrea sing the package building song
19:05 * mtompset grins, "That's a nice song to sing."
19:05 mtompset Greetings, @koha/
19:05 mtompset Greetings, #koha.
19:10 kidclamp Greetings mtompset
19:11 mtompset Greetings, kidclamp.
19:12 mtompset What think you of bug 16746 -- my observation of the zebra and elastic search versions getting different parameters?
19:12 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=16746 major, P5 - low, ---, juan.sieira, In Discussion , Can not find duplicated authorities cataloguing a new one
19:14 kidclamp looking
19:20 kidclamp i think that makes sense mtompset
19:21 mtompset So the counter patch I propose makes sense then?
19:22 kidclamp as far is you can believe anything I say late on a friday afternoon
19:23 kidclamp I didn't test but general theory seems right
19:23 * mtompset grins, "I know that feeling."
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19:23 mtompset Because I was complaining to wizzyrea the other day about zebra facets not working.
19:24 mtompset I wouldn't be surprised if this ties in.
19:25 mtompset But I'm not feeling conscious enough to test that theory.
19:25 kidclamp heh
19:26 kidclamp hopefully you are like me, a good theory will tide you over for the weekend, monday is for disappointing realities
19:27 mtompset I just am recovering from computer crash this week.
19:27 mtompset Thankfully, I had a 3 day old back up.
19:27 mtompset And none of my work was done locally during that time.
19:28 mtompset All my email is IMAP, so I'm good. :)
19:30 mtompset Well, chauffeur duty calls.
19:30 mtompset I wish my wife would get her driver's license.
19:30 mtompset Have a great weekend, kidclamp #koha.
19:31 kidclamp @later tell mtompset I didn't get my license until I was 30 - I can understand hesitation :-)
19:31 huginn kidclamp: The operation succeeded.
19:44 barton @later tell wizzyrea can you take a look at https://bugs.koha-community.or[…].cgi?id=14514#c18 ? thanks!
19:44 huginn barton: The operation succeeded.
19:44 huginn Bug 14514: normal, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Needs Signoff , LocalHoldsPriority and the HoldsQueue conflict with each other
19:47 Tylathos Bye #koha :)
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22:07 otinine shqiptar?
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22:19 tcohen hiç
22:20 tcohen Joubu: pong
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22:49 drojf hi tcohen
22:51 tcohen hi drojf
22:55 drojf @wunder txl
22:55 huginn drojf: The current temperature in Rue du Capitaine Jean Maridor, Berlin, Germany is 17.3°C (12:51 AM CEST on August 13, 2016). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 93%. Dew Point: 16.0°C. Pressure: 30.15 in 1021 hPa (Steady).
22:56 drojf hm no perseids for me i guess
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