Time  Nick            Message
22:56 drojf           hm no perseids for me i guess
22:55 huginn          drojf: The current temperature in Rue du Capitaine Jean Maridor, Berlin, Germany is 17.3°C (12:51 AM CEST on August 13, 2016). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 93%. Dew Point: 16.0°C. Pressure: 30.15 in 1021 hPa (Steady).
22:55 drojf           @wunder txl
22:51 tcohen          hi drojf
22:49 drojf           hi tcohen
22:20 tcohen          Joubu: pong
22:19 tcohen          hiç
22:07 otinine         shqiptar?
19:47 Tylathos        Bye #koha :)
19:44 huginn          04Bug 14514: normal, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Needs Signoff , LocalHoldsPriority and the HoldsQueue conflict with each other
19:44 huginn          barton: The operation succeeded.
19:44 barton          @later tell wizzyrea can you take a look at https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=14514#c18 ? thanks!
19:31 huginn          kidclamp: The operation succeeded.
19:31 kidclamp        @later tell mtompset I didn't get my license until I was 30 - I can understand hesitation :-)
19:30 mtompset        Have a great weekend, kidclamp #koha.
19:30 mtompset        I wish my wife would get her driver's license.
19:30 mtompset        Well, chauffeur duty calls.
19:28 mtompset        All my email is IMAP, so I'm good. :)
19:27 mtompset        And none of my work was done locally during that time.
19:27 mtompset        Thankfully, I had a 3 day old back up.
19:27 mtompset        I just am recovering from computer crash this week.
19:26 kidclamp        hopefully you are like me, a good theory will tide you over for the weekend, monday is for disappointing realities
19:25 kidclamp        heh
19:25 mtompset        But I'm not feeling conscious enough to test that theory.
19:24 mtompset        I wouldn't be surprised if this ties in.
19:23 mtompset        Because I was complaining to wizzyrea the other day about zebra facets not working.
19:23 * mtompset      grins, "I know that feeling."
19:23 kidclamp        I didn't test but general theory seems right
19:22 kidclamp        as far is you can believe anything I say late on a friday afternoon
19:21 mtompset        So the counter patch I propose makes sense then?
19:20 kidclamp        i think that makes sense mtompset
19:14 kidclamp        looking
19:12 huginn          04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=16746 major, P5 - low, ---, juan.sieira, In Discussion , Can not find duplicated authorities cataloguing a new one
19:12 mtompset        What think you of bug 16746 -- my observation of the zebra and elastic search versions getting different parameters?
19:11 mtompset        Greetings, kidclamp.
19:10 kidclamp        Greetings mtompset
19:05 mtompset        Greetings, #koha.
19:05 mtompset        Greetings, @koha/
19:05 * mtompset      grins, "That's a nice song to sing."
19:04 huginn          mtompset: wizzyrea was last seen in #koha 2 days, 21 hours, 17 minutes, and 8 seconds ago: * wizzyrea sing the package building song
19:04 mtompset        @seen wizzyrea
17:14 gaetan_B        bye
17:01 Tylathos        drojf: oh i see. I will correct both :9
17:01 drojf           do you want to change the info for the one that is there? you can just obsolete it and attach a new one from git bz
17:00 drojf           or what do you mean?
17:00 drojf           in BZ
17:00 drojf           you can go to details and edit
16:59 drojf           Tylathos: now it has kind of inconstistent behaviour between message types. some display a message when the checkin was successful (yours), others don't. for consistency i think it would be better to display it in the style that is used now. after checkin there is "Checked-in items" with a table. you could use the same style for the headline and just say that no items were checked in. or show the table and say what was not checked in explicitly, but
16:58 Tylathos        drojf: is there a way to change the name of the attachment with git bz?
16:52 drojf           oops
16:52 drojf           right
16:52 drojf           yeah
16:52 drojf           oh
16:52 cait            someone told me not to work :)
16:51 drojf           cait: you can start QA :P
16:51 cait            but Tylathos++ - doing well there it seems :)
16:51 cait            :)
16:51 * cait          let's drojf handle it
16:50 drojf           Tylathos: you shoukd indicate it's a followup and what it changes /adds in the commit message
16:50 cait            drojf: um no idea - some hide the column with jquery i think
16:50 Tylathos        17101
16:50 drojf           Tylathos: yep, so people know there is more to signoff
16:50 * cait          can take a look
16:50 wahanui         hmmm... which bug number is it?
16:50 cait            hm which bug number?
16:48 Tylathos        drojf: should i change the status again, becaus of the new changes? (quit unsure and feeling stupid atm)
16:47 Tylathos        wow -.-' git bz didn't take my last change, and displayed the compltly text again -.-'
16:37 drojf           cait: so if i want to avoid that i have to block circulation people from borrower permissions?
16:36 cait            drojf: i think the return from patron details misses some other things as well
16:31 Tylathos        thats a good idea :)
16:30 drojf           apart from that, it seems to work for me
16:29 drojf           what you could do is add some kind of message when the anwer is "no". because atm there is nothing that indicates what happened after you click it
16:29 Tylathos        i think they can also override holds in that case
16:29 drojf           not your fault, it seems to be the general structure. just wondering
16:28 drojf           but it seems weird to have a message in one place and not in the other. and in your case, people can override the whole quesion
16:27 Tylathos        drojf: my first  thought is that when you check in from the patron detail, the check in is made without calling the return.pl
16:21 drojf           (found it while (testing Tylathos' bug but it's a general question)
16:20 drojf           when i check in stuff from within patron details, the whole checkin message thing does not work. is it supposed to be like that?
15:47 Tylathos        So now -.-' I know why at work mostly other persons do this kind of work for me :D
15:42 drojf           i got it from the list of shared searches
15:42 drojf           that worked for me
15:42 drojf           https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/buglist.cgi?cmdtype=dorem&list_id=173201&namedcmd=3.x%20Unmaintained&remaction=run&sharer_id=12
15:41 drojf           :(
15:41 oleonard        Well then, I guess I can't share a saved search.
15:40 drojf           :/
15:40 drojf           no
15:40 wahanui         hey now now, sing this corrosion to me
15:40 oleonard        How about now?
15:40 drojf           The search named 3.x Unmaintained does not exist.
15:39 drojf           same
15:39 oleonard        yes
15:39 drojf           oleonard: the same url?
15:39 drojf           you can amend your patch and send it again
15:38 Tylathos        Ah **** i forget to add sponsered by :D
15:38 oleonard        drojf: Can you try it again?
15:37 Tylathos        drojf: yes i was looking at the moment what to do next :D
15:37 drojf           Tylathos: you should set the bug status to "needs signoff"
15:37 oleonard        Maybe I shared it incorrectly. Anyone know what group I should share it with? editbugs, Koha, Testers?
15:36 oleonard        :(
15:36 drojf           from the devel list
15:36 drojf           oleonard: your link gives me      The search named 3.x Unmaintained       does not exist.
15:36 Tylathos        Yeah it worked :D
15:28 Tylathos        kidclamp: thx ^^
15:28 kidclamp        much easier for attaching patches
15:28 kidclamp        use this: https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Git_bz_configuration
15:28 Tylathos        Good :)
15:28 kidclamp        ignore the mailing patch part Tylathos
15:28 Tylathos        is the part git send-email still necessary or should it be enough to push it to the bug at bugzilla?
15:27 Tylathos        https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Version_Control_Using_Git <== im following this guide.
15:25 Tylathos        he writes endlessly y :D
15:25 Tylathos        i crashed my git i think :D
15:23 drojf           testers love test plans
15:22 Tylathos        writing the testplane :D it's annoying :D
15:20 * cait          cheers Tylathos on
15:16 * drojf         waits
15:09 Tylathos        Yes! Now i'm ready to make my first patch ^^ (for koha)
15:00 * LibraryClaire grumbles
15:00 LibraryClaire   Wishing I wasn't wearing jeans and a jumper. It was not this warm this morning
15:00 cait            not so warm here currently
14:59 huginn          cait: The current temperature in LuisenstraÃ&#376;e, Konstanz, Germany is 21.7°C (4:52 PM CEST on August 12, 2016). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 62%. Dew Point: 14.0°C. Pressure: 30.36 in 1028 hPa (Steady).
14:59 cait            @wunder Konstanz
14:59 LibraryClaire   we're meant to have another 'heatwave' over the weekend
14:59 wahanui         ouch!
14:59 * LibraryClaire pokes wahanui
14:59 wahanui         apparently is vitally important to librarians
14:59 LibraryClaire   apparently
14:59 drojf           you got all the summer
14:58 LibraryClaire   eurgh
14:58 huginn          LibraryClaire: The current temperature in London City, United Kingdom is 28.0°C (3:50 PM BST on August 12, 2016). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 30%. Dew Point: 9.0°C. Pressure: 30.18 in 1022 hPa (Steady).
14:58 LibraryClaire   @wunder LCY
14:57 drojf           not sure how that gif matches what i said but it's cute anyway
14:57 cait            :)
14:57 wahanui         http://cdn4.list25.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/04/penguin.gif
14:57 drojf           cait: go to bed
14:57 * drojf         gives up on the cloud
14:57 drojf           i think i don't want to know
14:53 drojf           Output: /home/koha/yourlibrary/koharoot/koha-tmpl/cloud-subject.html
14:52 oleonard        Nothing, I guess.
14:52 drojf           oleonard: that is only a cronjob? what is the url in koha supposed to be?
14:48 huginn          oleonard: The current temperature in Longview Hts, Athens, Ohio is 35.1°C (10:48 AM EDT on August 12, 2016). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 54%. Dew Point: 25.0°C. Pressure: 30.00 in 1016 hPa (Steady).  Heat advisory in effect until 8 PM EDT this evening... 
14:48 oleonard        @wunder 45701
14:48 drojf           mostly word cloudy
14:48 huginn          drojf: The current temperature in Rue du Capitaine Jean Maridor, Berlin, Germany is 20.7°C (4:41 PM CEST on August 12, 2016). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 66%. Dew Point: 14.0°C. Pressure: 30.15 in 1021 hPa (Steady).
14:48 drojf           @wunder txl
14:47 drojf           what have word clouds ever done for us?
14:47 * oleonard      doesn't care about word clouds
14:46 drojf           if you delete it you will find out
14:46 oleonard        I would sooner delete cloud-kw.pl and close outstanding bugs related to it if I knew no one used it.
14:46 drojf           if it is broken right now and nobody complained… koha does not need it anyway
14:45 drojf           fly
14:45 drojf           yes i thought ES could probably just do that in the fl
14:45 drojf           you have to run a command line script to generate the file. and choose which field to use. AFAIR
14:45 eythian         I think ES might let you access stuff to make word clouds. Don't quote me on that though.
14:42 oleonard        Hey static site generators are all the rage these days
14:40 drojf           sounds like tech of the future :P
14:40 oleonard        The example conf file doesn't work for me so I'm not sure if it still works
14:40 oleonard        Yes. Generates static HTML files
14:39 drojf           i think i have used that somewhen 6 years ago. the word cloud thing?
14:38 oleonard        I wonder if anyone still uses cloud-kw.pl
14:22 cait            :)
14:20 LibraryClaire   yay, fireworks
14:19 drojf           nice
14:19 drojf           oh nic
14:19 cait            i hope I'll feel better tomorrow - we got the big fireworks on the lake tomorrow night
14:19 cait            thx :) will try
14:19 drojf           feel better!
14:18 LibraryClaire   :(
14:18 * cait          got a cold :(
14:18 cait            yeah... time to go home and stay in bed
14:18 drojf           early weekend? :P
14:17 drojf           bye cait
14:17 LibraryClaire   bye
14:17 cait            bye all
13:52 Tylathos        cait: thx ^^
13:52 andreashm       cait: good to know, danke!
13:51 cait            the matching fails for us when zebra is down
13:51 cait            andreashm: i agree with joy - it's done against indexes
13:51 * cait          sends Tylathos cookies
13:50 Tylathos        Yeah ^.^ my virtual machine is corrupt, and all work from yesterday is lost -.-'
13:49 talljoy         yw
13:49 andreashm       thanks talljoy
13:48 talljoy         so it has to have something matched first.
13:48 talljoy         my understanding of matchchecks is that you need to come up with a match based on the rules, then the matchcheck is the final check of the record it matched to the record you are importing.
13:48 talljoy         we have had to add the 035 to the standard number indexes on sites where they need to match on the 035$a
13:47 talljoy         I don't believe you can have matchcheck only rules.
13:47 talljoy         ok
13:46 andreashm       cait or talljoy, maybe?
13:39 andreashm       (we would like to match using 035a, which is proving difficult)
13:39 andreashm       and if it is possible to build a rule using only match checks, not having any match point?
13:39 andreashm       my second question is then if required match checks match against zebra indexes or directly against the database? the documentation is unclear.
13:38 andreashm       ok thanks
13:38 talljoy         my understanding is that it only works for isbn
13:37 cait            talljoy: does the normalization rule n the matching rules do something?
13:37 wahanui         i think that is fine
13:37 talljoy         whats that?
13:37 cait            andreashm: i don't know it :)
13:37 cait            talljoy: might know this
13:36 talljoy         noice!!
13:36 druthb          not much.  lazy day off.  :P
13:36 talljoy         whats up druthb
13:35 talljoy         hiya!!
13:35 * druthb        sees talljoy, and waves frantically.
13:32 andreashm       cait: well, for starters I'm wondering if there actually is a normalization rule? or if anything that is put into that field is useless?
13:25 * druthb        gives wahanui a cookie
13:24 wahanui         the problem is it's human beings doing it. Rebuild your indexes.
13:24 cait            what's the problem?
13:24 cait            around... but not good
13:18 andreashm       anyone around who is good at record matching rules?
12:50 * andreashm     waves
12:49 kidclamp        reading it over it looks good, but should test more too
12:49 Joubu           kidclamp: feel free! :D
12:49 Joubu           heh :)
12:48 kidclamp        or we should just pass your bug :-)
12:48 kidclamp        If I drop the ENV variables in to koha-plack it works, it should be possible to do that
12:47 Joubu           :)
12:47 huginn          Joubu: The operation succeeded.
12:47 Joubu           @later tell tcohen ping!
12:46 kidclamp        creating a  second instance with --use-memcached seems to have the same result
12:42 Joubu           kidclamp: the koha-create cmd used by kohadevbox does not pass --use-memcached, it would be good to test if passing it correctly set it
12:41 kidclamp        :-)
12:39 Joubu           forget that, it's not useful
12:39 Joubu           when I hit koha mainpage
12:38 Joubu           Default caching system: memcached at /home/vagrant/kohaclone/C4/Context.pm line 514
12:38 Joubu           but
12:38 Joubu           on restarting plack
12:38 Joubu           Selected caching system: Cache::Memory=HASH(0x26c8f20) at /home/vagrant/kohaclone/C4/Context.pm line 514.
12:38 Joubu           kidclamp: I get:
12:35 oleonard        Thanks Joubu I will take another look
12:34 kidclamp        yeah, i set DEBUG=1 and the select caching system is Cache::Memory
12:33 Joubu           oleonard: just answered, tell me if it's still not clear
12:30 Joubu           kidclamp: put warn "IS CACHED!"; in Koha::Cache l.150 (just before the return)
12:29 Joubu           kidclamp: it looks to work with my kohadevbox
12:20 kidclamp        plackup seems to work fine
12:20 kidclamp        hmm...USE_MEMCACHED set as yes in the koha-sites.conf, it looks like those envs still never come through to koha-plack though, at least I can't make it happen
12:18 Joubu           It looks like it's what it does yes
12:15 kidclamp        does that set envs so the package command works?
12:15 kidclamp        joubu not sure - I was testing in kohadevbox so likely not, and I don't know on the other site we were testing
12:13 Joubu           kidclamp: did you try to koha-create with --use-memcached?
12:11 huginn          04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=16579 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, In Discussion , Use separate memcached namespace for caching koha-conf.xml
12:11 kidclamp        bug 16579 definitely is an improvement
12:10 kidclamp        or you need to add the memcached envs into koha-plack
12:09 kidclamp        Ah, so  I am right that you can't use koha-plack and expect memcached
12:09 Joubu           which contains 29 $ENV{MEMCACHED_SERVERS} = "localhost:11211";
12:09 Joubu           kidclamp: I use plackup with misc/plack/koha.psgi
12:09 kidclamp        question for you, how do you go about getting memcache working with plack?
12:08 Joubu           hi kidclamp :)
12:08 kidclamp        Hi Joubu
12:07 Joubu           oleonard: no I did not!
12:07 kidclamp        hot but otherwise well
12:07 kidclamp        hi LibraryClaire
12:07 oleonard        Going fine kidclamp, how about you?
12:07 * LibraryClaire waves
12:06 kidclamp        morning oleonard, how goes it?
12:06 oleonard        Hi kidclamp
12:06 * kidclamp      waves
11:56 huginn          04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=16763 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Failed QA , Remove the use of "onclick" from record matching rules form
11:56 oleonard        Joubu: Did you see my question on Bug 16763?
11:56 marcelr         bye #koha
11:54 LibraryClaire   hi oleonard :)
11:52 oleonard        Hi #koha
11:49 huginn          marcelr: The operation succeeded.
11:49 marcelr         @later tell khall please put bug 15407 on your early push list; thx
11:45 Tylathos        nice :D now my virtualbox won't work -.-'
11:00 cait            I think so :)
10:59 drojf           i hope he has another holiday :)
10:56 cait            yeah
10:55 drojf           didn't magnuse just say that a couple of weeks ago?
10:55 drojf           huh?
10:54 magnuse         have fun #koha - see y'all in a couple weeks!
10:28 huginn          04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=16942 major, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Failed QA , Confirm hold results in ugly error
10:28 Joubu           marcelr: duplicate of bug 16942 I guess
10:26 marcelr         Joubu: almost done but lunch goes first :)
10:20 Joubu           marcelr: yep, will do
10:19 marcelr         maybe open a report ?
10:19 marcelr         ok can be it is not your change
10:19 Joubu           marcelr: looks like a master bug
10:12 wahanui         yep.
10:12 Joubu           yep?
10:12 marcelr         Reserves.t
10:12 marcelr         Joubu: please help me again :)
10:08 marcelr         wasn't it moved
10:08 marcelr         on the test
10:07 Joubu           marcelr: what kind of conflicts? use statements or more?
10:07 marcelr         thx
10:07 Joubu           marcelr: follow-up added, feel free to squash it with the original patch to clean the git log
10:04 marcelr         Joubu: we will have some merge conflict with Ratings (the other one already in PQA)
10:02 marcelr         easier while doing things in parallel
10:01 marcelr         i am in the middle somewhere
10:01 Joubu           k
10:01 marcelr         no please add a follow-up
10:01 Joubu           marcelr: I will amend the patch, ok for you?
10:01 marcelr         ok you can also add it again
10:00 Joubu           looks like a merge conflict issue
10:00 Joubu           marcelr: I am not sure why GetName is gone actually
09:53 Joubu           s/work/fun
09:48 marcelr         ok Joubu; i have some more work coming for you ;)
09:45 Joubu           marcelr: will submit a followup soon (~5min)
09:44 marcelr         translatability is another topic
09:44 marcelr         criteria loopfilter
09:43 marcelr         it is just a <p> in the template
09:43 marcelr         Joubu: I prefer just the string Patron category actually
09:40 marcelr         somewhere else they put Query in
09:39 marcelr         :)
09:39 marcelr         i prefer foobar above cathash, that is sure
09:39 marcelr         hmm
09:37 Joubu           s/with/it
09:37 Joubu           I can replace with with "foobar" if you like, but not sure it will be more relevant :)
09:37 Joubu           it's just a string, so let it like it was before
09:37 marcelr         the var does not exist !
09:37 marcelr         why not
09:36 Joubu           marcelr: there is no change
09:34 marcelr         i am in the second patch still
09:34 marcelr         Joubu: please submit your change, I will have a look
09:32 Joubu           marcelr: agreed?
09:19 Joubu           So I guess it was expected, not to change the string (wherever it will be displayed)
09:18 Joubu           marcelr: it's just a string actually :)
09:18 marcelr         will examine your followup later :)
09:17 marcelr         should have a better look, trusting you here
09:17 Joubu           it seems that crit should be filled with the patron cat, don't you think?
09:17 marcelr         at least pass {} :)
09:17 marcelr         with something undefined?
09:16 drojf           cat and hash. a winning combination
09:16 Joubu           I understand the problem, but do not know how to fix it quickly
09:16 Joubu           yes but it seems that we should keep it filled
09:16 marcelr         where is cathash?
09:16 Joubu           no :)
09:16 marcelr         crit=>"\%cathash
09:15 marcelr         you're kidding
09:15 Joubu           marcelr: no idea what to do
09:08 magnuse         :-)
09:07 * cait          likes busy #koha
09:06 cait            :)
09:05 huginn          04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=15407 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Signed Off , Move the patron categories related code to Koha::Patron::Categories - part 2
09:05 marcelr         Joubu: I will paste a small error on bug 15407; please solve it in a follow-up
08:54 Joubu           no worries, I do not read what's going on there :)
08:53 drojf           *testing
08:53 huginn          04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=17084 trivial, P5 - low, ---, mirko, Passed QA , Automatic debian/control updates (master)
08:53 drojf           Joubu: sorry for spamming with bug 17084. i'm done soon, testint a few changes
08:12 magnuse         moin drojf
08:01 drojf           hi cait and magnuse
07:51 * LibraryClaire waves
07:46 * magnuse       waves
07:44 LibraryClaire   hi cait
07:43 * cait          waves
07:41 LibraryClaire   hi drojf
07:41 drojf           guten morgen LibraryClaire
07:40 LibraryClaire   morning #koha
07:34 drojf           morning #koha
07:27 marcelr         hi cait gaetan_B
07:17 * cait          waves
07:12 gaetan_B        hello
06:45 marcelr         :)
06:45 morgane         hi marcelr
06:45 marcelr         hi morgane
06:42 morgane         hi #koha :)
06:39 marcelr         hi #koha
05:38 dcook           Ugh, I hate CRUD