IRC log for #koha, 2016-05-30

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04:36 dcook Hmm, any other humans around right now?
04:37 dcook Why won't this plugin upload...
04:39 dcook Bug 16369
04:39 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=16369 normal, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Stable , Clean up and improve plugins template
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04:53 dcook Ahhh I bet it's the upload_path
04:53 dcook Every time...
04:58 dcook Nope... not it... blah
04:59 dcook This is so frustrating..
05:01 dcook It's uploading the plugins..
05:03 dcook Why the hell is it not detecting it..
05:12 dcook Maybe it's a bad plugin..
05:13 dcook ...
05:15 dcook I suppose I don't actually see any upload code...
05:18 dcook Or maybe the problem is plugin-home...
05:27 dcook Hmm, might be going crazy...
05:32 dcook Must just be a bad plugin...
05:58 dcook Ahhh I bet it's because I don't have Marc::Lint installed
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06:13 drojf hi there
06:13 wahanui hey, drojf
06:13 drojf wahanui: are you at kohacon?
06:13 wahanui drojf: i don't know
06:13 drojf wahanui: you should find out
06:13 wahanui drojf: huh?
06:13 drojf wahanui: yep
06:13 wahanui yep.
06:13 dcook yo drojf :)
06:22 drojf hey dcook
06:22 drojf late for you, isn't it?
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06:27 marcelr_greece hi #koha
06:27 marcelr_greece 20 min to go for conference starts..
06:32 dcook drojf: Nope. It's 4:31pm
06:32 dcook Cheers, marcelr_greece
06:32 marcelr_greece :)
06:32 dcook Alas, I don't think my wife will let me watch during dinner :p
06:32 drojf dcook: so you will be asleep until i have to present
06:32 dcook marcelr_greece: Is it just being streamed live or will there be recordings somewhere?
06:33 dcook drojf: Well, with the baby, I might not be asleep :p
06:33 marcelr_greece hm not sure i think so
06:33 drojf there will be recordings, i had to sign to give consent
06:33 dcook Yay!
06:33 marcelr_greece ok
06:33 dcook drojf: What time are you presenting?
06:33 drojf 16:30 i think
06:33 drojf which is like your time now, but here
06:33 dcook In local time?
06:33 drojf yep
06:33 drojf in 7 hours?
06:34 drojf i got mixed time zones on notebook and phone, slightly confusing
06:36 * magnuse waves from CEST
06:36 magnuse @wunder thessaloniki
06:36 huginn magnuse: The current temperature in Thessaloniki, Greece is 22.0°C (9:20 AM EEST on May 30, 2016). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 69%. Dew Point: 16.0°C. Pressure: 29.86 in 1011 hPa (Steady).
06:36 magnuse @wunder boo
06:36 huginn magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 14.0°C (8:20 AM CEST on May 30, 2016). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 72%. Dew Point: 9.0°C. Pressure: 30.21 in 1023 hPa (Falling).
06:40 * magnuse sets up twitter to keep an eye on #kohacon16
06:40 marcelr_greece hi magnuse you should have been here ;)
06:42 magnuse i know...
06:42 magnuse it's not for a lack of wanting to be there
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06:46 reiveune hello
06:46 wahanui que tal, reiveune
06:48 drojf1 @wunder thessaloniki
06:49 huginn drojf1: The current temperature in Thessaloniki, Greece is 22.0°C (9:20 AM EEST on May 30, 2016). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 69%. Dew Point: 16.0°C. Pressure: 29.86 in 1011 hPa (Steady).
06:50 jajm hello #koha
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06:55 pianohacker good morning from KohaCon!
06:55 magnuse kia ora pianohacker
06:55 pianohacker hi magnuse :)
06:55 magnuse doing the grand tour of europe, eh?
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06:59 drojf1 is the stream flash only or is it just me?
07:00 eythian Url?
07:00 wahanui Url is horrid :)
07:01 drojf1
07:01 eythian Yeah, tells me to install flash on my tablet.
07:03 marcelr_greece what does she say ?
07:03 drojf1 no idea
07:03 drojf1 hello
07:03 drojf1 a long hello
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07:12 dcook I'm so choked not to be at Kohacon...
07:12 dcook Boss offered to pay but I figured I didn't want to leave the 3 month old at home and didn't neessarily want to cart them over to Greece either
07:13 drojf yeah, lots of small koha children, soon they will be old enough for conferences ;)
07:14 drojf you could also do kohacon in australia ;)
07:15 drojf ah well too much spiders of too uncomfortable size
07:15 eythian Ah good:[…]rt.cgi?bug=825493
07:16 drojf excellent
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07:36 fridolin hie there
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07:37 * cait2 waves
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07:48 magnuse kia ora fridolin cait2 and petter
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07:48 * cait2 waves
07:48 magnuse Oak
07:48 petter hello folks!
07:48 Oak magnuse
07:48 cait2 rangi and paul_p just finished their talk about Koha hisotry
07:48 Oak \o/
07:48 cait2 learning something new every time
07:48 cait2 is the livestream on?
07:48 Oak Guten tag cait2
07:52 magnuse the livestram was working very well 20 minutes ago, at least
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07:52 magnuse petter: you're not in greece, right?
07:59 petter No, I'm in rainy Oslo :/
08:06 magnuse ha, better to be in sunny bodø then! ;-)
08:06 magnuse @wunder oslo
08:06 huginn magnuse: Error: No such location could be found.
08:06 magnuse @wunder oslo, norway
08:06 huginn magnuse: The current temperature in Oslo Airport, Norway is 12.0°C (9:50 AM CEST on May 30, 2016). Conditions: Light Rain. Humidity: 94%. Dew Point: 11.0°C. Pressure: 30.21 in 1023 hPa (Steady).
08:06 magnuse @wunder boo
08:06 huginn magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 16.0°C (9:50 AM CEST on May 30, 2016). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 63%. Dew Point: 9.0°C. Pressure: 30.21 in 1023 hPa (Steady).
08:18 bag magnuse: HI
08:18 wahanui kia ora, bag
08:19 magnuse bag: HI
08:20 rangi /ws 45
08:20 rangi yay, i need more coffee
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08:29 mveron Good daytime #koha
08:32 marcelr_greece hallo mveron
08:32 mveron Hi marcelr_greece
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08:36 cait2 back - had a quick coffee break
08:40 cait2 noone here? :)
08:54 * mveron waves to cait2 :-)
08:54 cait2 hi mveron :)
08:54 * mveron watches the live stream...
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09:10 magnuse the livestream is working perfectly for me in norway, if anyone is curious ;-)
09:11 eythian It doesn't work in Firefox so well.
09:14 magnuse it does for me, but i may have installed some nasty plugin or something
09:18 eythian Firefox will find system codecs these days. I don't seem to have them on my tablet.
09:19 cait2 eythian: you are not supposed to watch the livestream from here
09:21 eythian You and your rules
09:22 cait2 heh
09:23 magnuse wow, DataScouting is really active on twitter
09:28 eythian wahanui: MarcEdit is not free software.
09:28 wahanui ...but marcedit is a tool for editing MARC records. It can also convert spreadsheets to MARC. See[…]it/html/index.php...
09:28 eythian wahanui: MarcEdit is also not free software.
09:28 wahanui okay, eythian.
09:33 magnuse @wunder boo
09:33 huginn magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 17.0°C (11:20 AM CEST on May 30, 2016). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 59%. Dew Point: 9.0°C. Pressure: 30.21 in 1023 hPa (Steady).
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09:33 magnuse @wunder thessaloniki
09:33 huginn magnuse: The current temperature in Thessaloniki, Greece is 25.0°C (12:20 PM EEST on May 30, 2016). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 61%. Dew Point: 17.0°C. Pressure: 29.86 in 1011 hPa (Steady).
09:36 cait2 koha-ppy! :)
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09:57 * mveron thinks that Koha needs a function to generate funds (print money) for acquisitions :-)
09:59 liz serials too.
10:07 rangi this is so offtopic
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10:09 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Updating the DBrev for a new dev track (unstable). <[…]b8a987a9356fdf631>
10:14 rangi blam
10:30 magnuse boom
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11:19 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 16548 - All libraries selected on Tools -> Export Data screen <[…]090657dbf5b712450> / Bug 16569 - Message box for "too many checked out" is empty if AllowTooManyOverride... <[…]47a1492ca41dafe2a> / Bug 16597: Fix XSS in <http://git.koha-commun
11:27 bag hey rangi - I see that the dashboard has changed for 16.11 - is there a spot that I could grab the numbers for the 16.05 release?  (that rough number of hours/days stuff)
11:37 rangi ah yep, 2 secs
11:39 rangi if you reload the page now
11:39 rangi its showing the values for 16.05
11:39 rangi lemme know when youre done ill switch it back
11:40 bag got it rangi all set
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11:49 rangi sweet will switch it back
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11:57 eythian be aware debian/control is severely broken at the moment, package building is currently impossible.
11:59 rangi hmm i wonder how far gmcharlt got
12:00 eythian the file was regenerated but there were errors in the resulting generation that were left in.
12:02 bag ah that was probably me eythian - can we sit together and redo that?
12:02 eythian I'm fixing it at the moment
12:03 bag ok cool - at hackfest can you demo for me?  I followed here https://wiki.koha-community.or[…]endencies_changes
12:05 * magnuse was just checking if there was a package for 3.22.7 yet
12:05 eythian yeah, it was regenerated but never tested, so there were lines like "-Build-Depends: EEEK: unknown package for DBIx::RunSQL," left in it. Also, the line for letsencrypt was incorrect.
12:06 eythian actually, the generation process should shout warnings and return error codes when that happens. I don't think it does.
12:06 cait2 EEK? :)
12:06 eythian it's crying out in shocked surprise!
12:08 cait2 :)
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12:17 bag cool we’ll get it squared away :)  and eythian please train me at the hackfest
12:17 bag eythian++
12:18 eythian sure, there'll also be training of drojf which will overlap a whole lot :)
12:19 bag very cool :)  go drojf!!!!
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12:22 magnuse drojf++ eythian++ bag++
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12:29 rangi bag: do you know if these scripts are all in the migration toolbox?
12:29 bag they should be yes.
12:30 bag could probably use any updates pushed up
12:30 cait2 cool :)
12:30 rangi sweet
12:30 bag for the task list in marcedit - probably not - since that’s so specific to a single library
12:31 bag but I’m sure we could share that no problem
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12:32 talljoy hola Koha!
12:33 rangi heya talljoy
12:33 wahanui talljoy is, like, one of the few women that can see eye to eye with druthb. Almost all the others need to stand on a box
12:33 talljoy true wahanui
12:33 eythian[…]ee/master/clients <-- many catalyst client specific ones are here
12:34 eythian we didn't use marcedit though (it's proprietary)
12:35 talljoy nice eythian  I have a git repo for our tools, and will check that it is up to date.
12:36 talljoy i'm not even sure what the url is, but will dig through my notes.  git and I are still learning to get along! ;-)
12:36 bag correction - git and I are still learning to GIT along ;)
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12:37 eythian talljoy: this is a fork from yours from ages ago with a lot of tidying up and documenting etc.
12:37 talljoy bag ha!
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12:37 talljoy ethyian you probably got those from druthb.
12:37 tcohen morning
12:37 bag heya tcohen
12:37 talljoy we've not updated anything major in them since her.  We've added a few scripts, and tweaked the standard mashers.
12:37 tcohen hi bag
12:37 tcohen hi talljoy
12:38 talljoy hi tcohen
12:38 eythian talljoy: yeah, that's the one. I forked it when druthb left so wasn't merging in patches for it any more.
12:39 bag hmm curious talljoy - we should look at the catalyst ones again - and see what we could merge in - probably good for both sides ;)
12:39 talljoy that's what i was thinking
12:39 talljoy and put out what we've got to show anything we've added.  Mainly I think we've written new scripts
12:40 eythian that's why I put it in gitlab, so it's always public
12:40 eythian bag:  bug 16617
12:40 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=16617 major, P5 - low, ---, robin, Needs Signoff , debian/control is broken
12:40 talljoy you and git 'git' along.  it's taken me about 5 years to get comfortable with it.
12:40 * talljoy quotes Dr McCoy "Dammit Jim, I'm a librarian, not a git expert"
12:41 * talljoy is learning though
12:41 eythian just break things and fix them enough times, and it'll make sense.
12:41 bag rangi: can I get a sign off on https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]_bug.cgi?id=16617  and tcohen can you QA that for me?
12:41 huginn Bug 16617: major, P5 - low, ---, robin, Needs Signoff , debian/control is broken
12:41 talljoy eythian i have pianohacker and kidclamp to help me now.  I think khall got tired of me breaking things.  ha!
12:42 talljoy he walks the other way from me at hackfests.
12:42 pianohacker I heard something about migration
12:42 talljoy <= breaks things very well
12:42 talljoy nothing to see here pianohacker
12:42 pianohacker would you all like some catmandu-flavored kool aid?
12:42 * talljoy whistels
12:42 talljoy YES PLEASE
12:42 pianohacker it's less than 1% mercuray
12:42 * talljoy passes cookies
12:43 eythian pianohacker: if you're on the catmandu train right now, here's fun times for you:
12:43 eythian #     Tried to use 'Koha::ElasticSearch::Indexer'.
12:43 eythian #     Error:  Can't locate Catmandu/Importer/ in @INC
12:43 eythian (actually, I think the best temporary solution is to stop it getting tested.)
12:43 pianohacker well that's odd
12:44 pianohacker eythian: how are you getting that?
12:44 tcohen bag: I can of course
12:44 eythian when doing a package build
12:44 pianohacker *blink*
12:44 * talljoy passes the ouzo
12:44 tcohen eythian: I promised to tweak the tests so they are skipped in wheezy
12:44 tcohen *sigh*
12:45 pianohacker talljoy: only if it's a grumpy-pianohacker sized bottle... that error makes no sense
12:45 eythian tcohen: is all the needed upstream stuff in jessie now?
12:45 tcohen i don't think so
12:45 tcohen dbix::runsql is missing
12:45 eythian then it's always going to break
12:46 talljoy pianohacker: i can oblige.
12:46 eythian oh, ignore that
12:46 eythian I mean the catmandu stuff
12:46 * talljoy takes the ouzo back from pianohacker then
12:47 pianohacker grr
12:47 pianohacker eythian: I know the catmandu-marc stuff is in a separate package, is that being included?
12:47 eythian no, it needs to be in a repo to be used
12:47 pianohacker your username highlight is INCREDIBLY aggressive
12:47 eythian packages are always built in a clean environment
12:48 pianohacker hrm.
12:48 eythian highlights will be a function of your client, I presume
12:48 rangi bag: yep will check now
12:49 eythian tcohen: I think that testing ES should always be skipped if catmandu is missing
12:49 tcohen exactly
12:51 talljoy did anyone catch what they said Bywater was doing?
12:51 eythian I think wrt training videos
12:51 talljoy ah!  thanks!
12:52 eythian @seen gmcharlt
12:52 huginn eythian: gmcharlt was last seen in #koha 1 week, 4 days, 16 hours, 59 minutes, and 7 seconds ago: <gmcharlt> my gut reaction: just do the minimum sorting needed to get everything loaded
12:53 pianohacker talljoy: talljoy!
12:53 wahanui talljoy is one of the few women that can see eye to eye with druthb. Almost all the others need to stand on a box.
12:53 talljoy ne
12:53 pianohacker idea is too hard to type
12:53 pianohacker false alarm
12:54 talljoy oh.
13:06 * mveron sends cookies to the QA team
13:07 * magnuse too
13:21 magnuse @wunder boo
13:21 huginn magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 16.0°C (2:50 PM CEST on May 30, 2016). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 72%. Dew Point: 11.0°C. Pressure: 30.24 in 1024 hPa (Steady).
13:21 * magnuse wanders off to eat pizza
13:22 bag @later tell pianohacker https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]_bug.cgi?id=16617  can you QA that for me?
13:22 huginn bag: The operation succeeded.
13:22 huginn Bug 16617: major, P5 - low, ---, robin, Signed Off , debian/control is broken
13:25 pianohacker bag: bag
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13:36 pianohacker bag: done
13:36 bag thanks
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13:44 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 16617 - fix issues with debian/control <[…]ee70c83cdec942656>
13:50 bag drojf looks very professional up there :)
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14:22 bag rancor!!!
14:22 wahanui i think rancor is bug 11559
14:22 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=11559 new feature, P5 - low, ---, jweaver, Pushed to Master , Professional cataloger's interface
14:22 rangi my least favourite type of sessions ever
14:23 pianohacker this could be interesting, but the last is _terrifying_
14:23 rangi i'd much rather here a bunch of potential solutions
14:23 rangi otherwise it quickly descends into a mess, and a sad way to end a day
14:28 eythian bag: "Should be in the November 2016 Release", that's much nicer to be able to say.
14:29 bag :)
14:35 tcohen where's Joubu?
14:35 wahanui Joubu is not sure how to fix that correctly
14:35 marcelr_greece he is in kohacon
14:35 marcelr_greece hi tcohen
14:36 eythian where is tcohen? why is he not at kohacon?
14:36 tcohen i'm not, unfortunately
14:37 eythian everybody who is anybody is there
14:37 tcohen i will try to attend to marseille, though
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14:38 drojf how bad was it? :D
14:39 marcelr_greece not bad drojf++
14:39 marcelr_greece better than only migration stories :)
14:39 eythian +1
14:39 mveron KohaCon 2016 ++
14:39 mveron Live streaming ++
14:40 drojf thanks :) later #koha
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15:40 reiveune bye
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16:18 mveron Hi #koha
16:19 mveron Installer(for update)  is broken after newest pull. It always goes back to Step 1
16:20 mveron Seems to be related to $DBversion = "";
16:31 mveron Ok, changed line 12602 and commented out lines 12596-12600 of, it works now...
18:04 bag hola
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19:50 bag hola talljoy
19:52 bag ok time for me to go to sleep
19:52 bag night night all :D
19:52 talljoy night night
19:52 talljoy go hope in bed
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21:20 drojf it's so nice here
21:20 drojf sorry, gotta say it every night
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22:48 florent good morning
22:48 wahanui well, it's morning somewhere, yes
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22:51 wizzycray hi florent :)
22:52 florent wizzyrea: Good morning Liz.
22:52 florent wizzyrea: Pretty quiet in the office today ;-)
22:54 florent wizzycray: Hi wizzycray
22:54 wizzycray hehe yeah
22:54 wizzycray I'm around by chat if you need, I know you probably won't though ^.^
22:56 florent wizzycray: might have to chat today. Nobody else around ...
22:56 wizzycray hehehe
22:56 wizzycray yeah, I've got a sick kid, and kathryn's away at training. Aleisha might be in at some point
22:57 florent wizzycray: I was wondering today if I should ask on IRC if anyone might be interested in signing off my superbe patch (12587) :-)
22:57 * wizzycray looks
22:59 florent wizzycray: argh, if I can't even type bug number right ... 12598
22:59 wizzycray hehehe it's no worries, I found it ^.^
23:01 wizzycray oh, yes I'd like to test that.  I'll give it a whirl anyway.
23:02 florent wizzycray: that would be great. I wrote the many tests. I think they are good but ... my opinion does not really matter! :-)
23:03 wizzycray hehe
23:03 florent wizzycray: I am going to try signing off 15906 today. Likely I will write some tests for it first
23:04 wizzycray I like your style
23:04 wizzycray :)
23:06 florent wizzycray: sadly, from writing too many tests, I learned not to trust my understanding of code. (ie my tests are always right-er than my code, so annoying)
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23:13 wizzycray I like this thing we are doing on the web updater
23:13 wizzycray where we put notices in the "error" text, in red
23:13 wizzycray I wish, however, that it didn't say "ERROR" and instead said "notice"
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23:14 wizzycray oh neat, db update on master is stuck in an infinite loop
23:15 florent wizzycray: Yeah. I noticed that this morning. Quite unfriendly :-(
23:18 wizzycray to fix it, just go to installer/data/mysql/ and change the 16.056xxxxxxxx to 16.06xxxxxxxx and it should go on properly.
23:18 wizzycray looks like a typo.
23:20 florent indeed, that does the trick
23:23 wizzycray there's a patch on bug 16619 as well
23:23 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=16619 blocker, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, Needs Signoff , Installer stuck in infinite loop
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23:28 * dcook waves
23:30 dcook Oh my...
23:30 dcook wizzycray: I would've sworn that I just used the web installer yesterday?
23:31 wizzycray you probably did, they did that change overnight I think
23:31 dcook Ahh, yes, that seems like a weird change to make..
23:31 wizzycray Mon May 30 10:02:31 2016 +0000 < greece time
23:31 dcook "Koha 16.06 - starting a new dev line at KohaCon16 in Thessaloniki, Greece!"
23:31 dcook Also, I'm going to hold in my feelings about not being there...
23:43 wizzycray yeah, I'm pretty upset to be missing out
23:43 wizzycray but so much to do here.
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23:51 wizzycray florent - switching the dateformat to match the data, it's correct that the records import (they do)?
23:53 florent if the dates can be parsed with the chosen dateformat, they should import.
23:53 wizzycray coolio :D
23:53 florent the defect was when the date were not parsing, they would be silently overwriten with system default
23:54 florent system default should only be used when no dates are provided
23:57 florent With dateformat, I didn't change the logic. If I remember well , the problem was around the error being push to @missing_critical after that array was last considered in the loop

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