Time  Nick           Message
04:36 dcook          Hmm, any other humans around right now?
04:37 dcook          Why won't this plugin upload...
04:39 dcook          Bug 16369
04:39 huginn         04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=16369 normal, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Stable , Clean up and improve plugins template
04:53 dcook          Ahhh I bet it's the upload_path
04:53 dcook          Every time...
04:58 dcook          Nope... not it... blah
04:59 dcook          This is so frustrating..
05:01 dcook          It's uploading the plugins..
05:03 dcook          Why the hell is it not detecting it..
05:12 dcook          Maybe it's a bad plugin..
05:13 dcook          ...
05:15 dcook          I suppose I don't actually see any upload code...
05:18 dcook          Or maybe the problem is plugin-home...
05:27 dcook          Hmm, might be going crazy...
05:32 dcook          Must just be a bad plugin...
05:58 dcook          Ahhh I bet it's because I don't have Marc::Lint installed
06:13 drojf          hi there
06:13 wahanui        hey, drojf
06:13 drojf          wahanui: are you at kohacon?
06:13 wahanui        drojf: i don't know
06:13 drojf          wahanui: you should find out
06:13 wahanui        drojf: huh?
06:13 drojf          wahanui: yep
06:13 wahanui        yep.
06:13 dcook          yo drojf :)
06:22 drojf          hey dcook
06:22 drojf          late for you, isn't it?
06:27 marcelr_greece hi #koha
06:27 marcelr_greece 20 min to go for conference starts..
06:32 dcook          drojf: Nope. It's 4:31pm
06:32 dcook          Cheers, marcelr_greece
06:32 marcelr_greece :)
06:32 dcook          Alas, I don't think my wife will let me watch during dinner :p
06:32 drojf          dcook: so you will be asleep until i have to present
06:32 dcook          marcelr_greece: Is it just being streamed live or will there be recordings somewhere?
06:33 dcook          drojf: Well, with the baby, I might not be asleep :p
06:33 marcelr_greece hm not sure i think so
06:33 drojf          there will be recordings, i had to sign to give consent
06:33 dcook          Yay!
06:33 marcelr_greece ok
06:33 dcook          drojf: What time are you presenting?
06:33 drojf          16:30 i think
06:33 drojf          which is like your time now, but here
06:33 dcook          In local time?
06:33 drojf          yep
06:33 drojf          in 7 hours?
06:34 drojf          i got mixed time zones on notebook and phone, slightly confusing
06:36 * magnuse      waves from CEST
06:36 magnuse        @wunder thessaloniki
06:36 huginn         magnuse: The current temperature in Thessaloniki, Greece is 22.0°C (9:20 AM EEST on May 30, 2016). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 69%. Dew Point: 16.0°C. Pressure: 29.86 in 1011 hPa (Steady).
06:36 magnuse        @wunder boo
06:36 huginn         magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 14.0°C (8:20 AM CEST on May 30, 2016). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 72%. Dew Point: 9.0°C. Pressure: 30.21 in 1023 hPa (Falling).
06:40 * magnuse      sets up twitter to keep an eye on #kohacon16
06:40 marcelr_greece hi magnuse you should have been here ;)
06:42 magnuse        i know...
06:42 magnuse        it's not for a lack of wanting to be there
06:46 reiveune       hello
06:46 wahanui        que tal, reiveune
06:48 drojf1         @wunder thessaloniki
06:49 huginn         drojf1: The current temperature in Thessaloniki, Greece is 22.0°C (9:20 AM EEST on May 30, 2016). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 69%. Dew Point: 16.0°C. Pressure: 29.86 in 1011 hPa (Steady).
06:50 jajm           hello #koha
06:55 pianohacker    good morning from KohaCon!
06:55 magnuse        kia ora pianohacker
06:55 pianohacker    hi magnuse :)
06:55 magnuse        doing the grand tour of europe, eh?
06:59 drojf1         is the stream flash only or is it just me?
07:00 eythian        Url?
07:00 wahanui        Url is horrid :)
07:01 drojf1         http://kohacon2016.lib.auth.gr/
07:01 eythian        Yeah, tells me to install flash on my tablet.
07:03 marcelr_greece what does she say ?
07:03 drojf1         no idea
07:03 drojf1         hello
07:03 drojf1         a long hello
07:12 dcook          I'm so choked not to be at Kohacon...
07:12 dcook          Boss offered to pay but I figured I didn't want to leave the 3 month old at home and didn't neessarily want to cart them over to Greece either
07:13 drojf          yeah, lots of small koha children, soon they will be old enough for conferences ;)
07:14 drojf          you could also do kohacon in australia ;)
07:15 drojf          ah well too much spiders of too uncomfortable size
07:15 eythian        Ah good: https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=825493
07:16 drojf          excellent
07:36 fridolin       hie there
07:37 * cait2        waves
07:48 magnuse        kia ora fridolin cait2 and petter
07:48 * cait2        waves
07:48 magnuse        Oak
07:48 petter         hello folks!
07:48 Oak            magnuse
07:48 cait2          rangi and paul_p just finished their talk about Koha hisotry
07:48 Oak            \o/
07:48 cait2          learning something new every time
07:48 cait2          is the livestream on?
07:48 Oak            Guten tag cait2
07:52 magnuse        the livestram was working very well 20 minutes ago, at least
07:52 magnuse        petter: you're not in greece, right?
07:59 petter         No, I'm in rainy Oslo :/
08:06 magnuse        ha, better to be in sunny bodø then! ;-)
08:06 magnuse        @wunder oslo
08:06 huginn         magnuse: Error: No such location could be found.
08:06 magnuse        @wunder oslo, norway
08:06 huginn         magnuse: The current temperature in Oslo Airport, Norway is 12.0°C (9:50 AM CEST on May 30, 2016). Conditions: Light Rain. Humidity: 94%. Dew Point: 11.0°C. Pressure: 30.21 in 1023 hPa (Steady).
08:06 magnuse        @wunder boo
08:06 huginn         magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 16.0°C (9:50 AM CEST on May 30, 2016). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 63%. Dew Point: 9.0°C. Pressure: 30.21 in 1023 hPa (Steady).
08:18 bag            magnuse: HI
08:18 wahanui        kia ora, bag
08:19 magnuse        bag: HI
08:20 rangi          /ws 45
08:20 rangi          yay, i need more coffee
08:29 mveron         Good daytime #koha
08:32 marcelr_greece hallo mveron
08:32 mveron         Hi marcelr_greece
08:36 cait2          back - had a quick coffee break
08:40 cait2          noone here? :)
08:54 * mveron       waves to cait2 :-)
08:54 cait2          hi mveron :)
08:54 * mveron       watches the live stream...
09:10 magnuse        the livestream is working perfectly for me in norway, if anyone is curious ;-)
09:11 eythian        It doesn't work in Firefox so well.
09:14 magnuse        it does for me, but i may have installed some nasty plugin or something
09:18 eythian        Firefox will find system codecs these days. I don't seem to have them on my tablet.
09:19 cait2          eythian: you are not supposed to watch the livestream from here
09:21 eythian        You and your rules
09:22 cait2          heh
09:23 magnuse        wow, DataScouting is really active on twitter
09:28 eythian        wahanui: MarcEdit is not free software.
09:28 wahanui        ...but marcedit is a tool for editing MARC records. It can also convert spreadsheets to MARC. See http://people.oregonstate.edu/~reeset/marcedit/html/index.php...
09:28 eythian        wahanui: MarcEdit is also not free software.
09:28 wahanui        okay, eythian.
09:33 magnuse        @wunder boo
09:33 huginn         magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 17.0°C (11:20 AM CEST on May 30, 2016). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 59%. Dew Point: 9.0°C. Pressure: 30.21 in 1023 hPa (Steady).
09:33 magnuse        @wunder thessaloniki
09:33 huginn         magnuse: The current temperature in Thessaloniki, Greece is 25.0°C (12:20 PM EEST on May 30, 2016). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 61%. Dew Point: 17.0°C. Pressure: 29.86 in 1011 hPa (Steady).
09:36 cait2          koha-ppy! :)
09:57 * mveron       thinks that Koha needs a function to generate funds (print money) for acquisitions :-)
09:59 liz            serials too.
10:07 rangi          this is so offtopic
10:09 huginn         New commit(s) kohagit: Updating the DBrev for a new dev track (unstable). <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=b99731e2e0290adddb5e419b8a987a9356fdf631>
10:14 rangi          blam
10:30 magnuse        boom
11:19 huginn         New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 16548 - All libraries selected on Tools -> Export Data screen <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=06b9194cdd178f14347b8f9090657dbf5b712450> / Bug 16569 - Message box for "too many checked out" is empty if AllowTooManyOverride... <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=af43f91335b2258ea39b40247a1492ca41dafe2a> / Bug 16597: Fix XSS in shelves.pl <http://git.koha-commun
11:27 bag            hey rangi - I see that the dashboard has changed for 16.11 - is there a spot that I could grab the numbers for the 16.05 release?  (that rough number of hours/days stuff)
11:37 rangi          ah yep, 2 secs
11:39 rangi          if you reload the page now
11:39 rangi          its showing the values for 16.05
11:39 rangi          lemme know when youre done ill switch it back
11:40 bag            got it rangi all set
11:49 rangi          sweet will switch it back
11:57 eythian        be aware debian/control is severely broken at the moment, package building is currently impossible.
11:59 rangi          hmm i wonder how far gmcharlt got
12:00 eythian        the file was regenerated but there were errors in the resulting generation that were left in.
12:02 bag            ah that was probably me eythian - can we sit together and redo that?
12:02 eythian        I'm fixing it at the moment
12:03 bag            ok cool - at hackfest can you demo for me?  I followed here https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Release_management#Dependencies_changes
12:05 * magnuse      was just checking if there was a package for 3.22.7 yet
12:05 eythian        yeah, it was regenerated but never tested, so there were lines like "-Build-Depends: EEEK: unknown package for DBIx::RunSQL," left in it. Also, the line for letsencrypt was incorrect.
12:06 eythian        actually, the generation process should shout warnings and return error codes when that happens. I don't think it does.
12:06 cait2          EEK? :)
12:06 eythian        it's crying out in shocked surprise!
12:08 cait2          :)
12:17 bag            cool we’ll get it squared away :)  and eythian please train me at the hackfest
12:17 bag            eythian++
12:18 eythian        sure, there'll also be training of drojf which will overlap a whole lot :)
12:19 bag            very cool :)  go drojf!!!!
12:22 magnuse        drojf++ eythian++ bag++
12:29 rangi          bag: do you know if these scripts are all in the migration toolbox?
12:29 bag            they should be yes.
12:30 bag            could probably use any updates pushed up
12:30 cait2          cool :)
12:30 rangi          sweet
12:30 bag            for the task list in marcedit - probably not - since that’s so specific to a single library
12:31 bag            but I’m sure we could share that no problem
12:32 talljoy        hola Koha!
12:33 rangi          heya talljoy
12:33 wahanui        talljoy is, like, one of the few women that can see eye to eye with druthb. Almost all the others need to stand on a box
12:33 talljoy        true wahanui
12:33 eythian        https://gitlab.com/catalyst-koha-migration-toolbox/koha-migration-toolbox/tree/master/clients <-- many catalyst client specific ones are here
12:34 eythian        we didn't use marcedit though (it's proprietary)
12:35 talljoy        nice eythian  I have a git repo for our tools, and will check that it is up to date.
12:36 talljoy        i'm not even sure what the url is, but will dig through my notes.  git and I are still learning to get along! ;-)
12:36 bag            correction - git and I are still learning to GIT along ;)
12:37 eythian        talljoy: this is a fork from yours from ages ago with a lot of tidying up and documenting etc.
12:37 talljoy        bag ha!
12:37 talljoy        ethyian you probably got those from druthb.
12:37 tcohen         morning
12:37 bag            heya tcohen
12:37 talljoy        we've not updated anything major in them since her.  We've added a few scripts, and tweaked the standard mashers.
12:37 tcohen         hi bag
12:37 tcohen         hi talljoy
12:38 talljoy        hi tcohen
12:38 eythian        talljoy: yeah, that's the one. I forked it when druthb left so wasn't merging in patches for it any more.
12:39 bag            hmm curious talljoy - we should look at the catalyst ones again - and see what we could merge in - probably good for both sides ;)
12:39 talljoy        that's what i was thinking
12:39 talljoy        and put out what we've got to show anything we've added.  Mainly I think we've written new scripts
12:40 eythian        that's why I put it in gitlab, so it's always public
12:40 eythian        bag:  bug 16617
12:40 huginn         04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=16617 major, P5 - low, ---, robin, Needs Signoff , debian/control is broken
12:40 talljoy        you and git 'git' along.  it's taken me about 5 years to get comfortable with it.
12:40 * talljoy      quotes Dr McCoy "Dammit Jim, I'm a librarian, not a git expert"
12:41 * talljoy      is learning though
12:41 eythian        just break things and fix them enough times, and it'll make sense.
12:41 bag            rangi: can I get a sign off on https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=16617  and tcohen can you QA that for me?
12:41 huginn         04Bug 16617: major, P5 - low, ---, robin, Needs Signoff , debian/control is broken
12:41 talljoy        eythian i have pianohacker and kidclamp to help me now.  I think khall got tired of me breaking things.  ha!
12:42 talljoy        he walks the other way from me at hackfests.
12:42 pianohacker    I heard something about migration
12:42 talljoy        <= breaks things very well
12:42 talljoy        nothing to see here pianohacker
12:42 pianohacker    would you all like some catmandu-flavored kool aid?
12:42 * talljoy      whistels
12:42 talljoy        YES PLEASE
12:42 pianohacker    it's less than 1% mercuray
12:42 * talljoy      passes cookies
12:43 eythian        pianohacker: if you're on the catmandu train right now, here's fun times for you:
12:43 eythian        #     Tried to use 'Koha::ElasticSearch::Indexer'.
12:43 eythian        #     Error:  Can't locate Catmandu/Importer/MARC.pm in @INC
12:43 eythian        (actually, I think the best temporary solution is to stop it getting tested.)
12:43 pianohacker    well that's odd
12:44 pianohacker    eythian: how are you getting that?
12:44 tcohen         bag: I can of course
12:44 eythian        when doing a package build
12:44 pianohacker    *blink*
12:44 * talljoy      passes the ouzo
12:44 tcohen         eythian: I promised to tweak the tests so they are skipped in wheezy
12:44 tcohen         *sigh*
12:45 pianohacker    talljoy: only if it's a grumpy-pianohacker sized bottle... that error makes no sense
12:45 eythian        tcohen: is all the needed upstream stuff in jessie now?
12:45 tcohen         i don't think so
12:45 tcohen         dbix::runsql is missing
12:45 eythian        then it's always going to break
12:46 talljoy        pianohacker: i can oblige.
12:46 eythian        oh, ignore that
12:46 eythian        I mean the catmandu stuff
12:46 * talljoy      takes the ouzo back from pianohacker then
12:47 pianohacker    grr
12:47 pianohacker    eythian: I know the catmandu-marc stuff is in a separate package, is that being included?
12:47 eythian        no, it needs to be in a repo to be used
12:47 pianohacker    your username highlight is INCREDIBLY aggressive
12:47 eythian        packages are always built in a clean environment
12:48 pianohacker    hrm.
12:48 eythian        highlights will be a function of your client, I presume
12:48 rangi          bag: yep will check now
12:49 eythian        tcohen: I think that testing ES should always be skipped if catmandu is missing
12:49 tcohen         exactly
12:51 talljoy        did anyone catch what they said Bywater was doing?
12:51 eythian        I think wrt training videos
12:51 talljoy        ah!  thanks!
12:52 eythian        @seen gmcharlt
12:52 huginn         eythian: gmcharlt was last seen in #koha 1 week, 4 days, 16 hours, 59 minutes, and 7 seconds ago: <gmcharlt> my gut reaction: just do the minimum sorting needed to get everything loaded
12:53 pianohacker    talljoy: talljoy!
12:53 wahanui        talljoy is one of the few women that can see eye to eye with druthb. Almost all the others need to stand on a box.
12:53 talljoy        ne
12:53 pianohacker    idea is too hard to type
12:53 pianohacker    false alarm
12:54 talljoy        oh.
13:06 * mveron       sends cookies to the QA team
13:07 * magnuse      too
13:21 magnuse        @wunder boo
13:21 huginn         magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 16.0°C (2:50 PM CEST on May 30, 2016). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 72%. Dew Point: 11.0°C. Pressure: 30.24 in 1024 hPa (Steady).
13:21 * magnuse      wanders off to eat pizza
13:22 bag            @later tell pianohacker https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=16617  can you QA that for me?
13:22 huginn         bag: The operation succeeded.
13:22 huginn         04Bug 16617: major, P5 - low, ---, robin, Signed Off , debian/control is broken
13:25 pianohacker    bag: bag
13:36 pianohacker    bag: done
13:36 bag            thanks
13:44 huginn         New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 16617 - fix issues with debian/control <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=e604538283ef3531aaa769dee70c83cdec942656>
13:50 bag            drojf looks very professional up there :)
14:22 bag            rancor!!!
14:22 wahanui        i think rancor is bug 11559
14:22 huginn         04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11559 new feature, P5 - low, ---, jweaver, Pushed to Master , Professional cataloger's interface
14:22 rangi          my least favourite type of sessions ever
14:23 pianohacker    this could be interesting, but the last is _terrifying_
14:23 rangi          i'd much rather here a bunch of potential solutions
14:23 rangi          otherwise it quickly descends into a mess, and a sad way to end a day
14:28 eythian        bag: "Should be in the November 2016 Release", that's much nicer to be able to say.
14:29 bag            :)
14:35 tcohen         where's Joubu?
14:35 wahanui        Joubu is not sure how to fix that correctly
14:35 marcelr_greece he is in kohacon
14:35 marcelr_greece hi tcohen
14:36 eythian        where is tcohen? why is he not at kohacon?
14:36 tcohen         i'm not, unfortunately
14:37 eythian        everybody who is anybody is there
14:37 tcohen         i will try to attend to marseille, though
14:38 drojf          how bad was it? :D
14:39 marcelr_greece not bad drojf++
14:39 marcelr_greece better than only migration stories :)
14:39 eythian        +1
14:39 mveron         KohaCon 2016 ++
14:39 mveron         Live streaming ++
14:40 drojf          thanks :) later #koha
15:40 reiveune       bye
16:18 mveron         Hi #koha
16:19 mveron         Installer(for update)  is broken after newest pull. It always goes back to Step 1
16:20 mveron         Seems to be related to updatedatabase.pl: $DBversion = "16.056.00.000";
16:31 mveron         Ok, changed line 12602 and commented out lines 12596-12600 of updatedatabase.pl, it works now...
18:04 bag            hola
19:50 bag            hola talljoy
19:52 bag            ok time for me to go to sleep
19:52 bag            night night all :D
19:52 talljoy        night night
19:52 talljoy        go hope in bed
21:20 drojf          it's so nice here
21:20 drojf          sorry, gotta say it every night
22:48 florent        good morning
22:48 wahanui        well, it's morning somewhere, yes
22:51 wizzycray      hi florent :)
22:52 florent        wizzyrea: Good morning Liz.
22:52 florent        wizzyrea: Pretty quiet in the office today ;-)
22:54 florent        wizzycray: Hi wizzycray
22:54 wizzycray      hehe yeah
22:54 wizzycray      I'm around by chat if you need, I know you probably won't though ^.^
22:56 florent        wizzycray: might have to chat today. Nobody else around ...
22:56 wizzycray      hehehe
22:56 wizzycray      yeah, I've got a sick kid, and kathryn's away at training. Aleisha might be in at some point
22:57 florent        wizzycray: I was wondering today if I should ask on IRC if anyone might be interested in signing off my superbe patch (12587) :-)
22:57 * wizzycray    looks
22:59 florent        wizzycray: argh, if I can't even type bug number right ... 12598
22:59 wizzycray      hehehe it's no worries, I found it ^.^
23:01 wizzycray      oh, yes I'd like to test that.  I'll give it a whirl anyway.
23:02 florent        wizzycray: that would be great. I wrote the many tests. I think they are good but ... my opinion does not really matter! :-)
23:03 wizzycray      hehe
23:03 florent        wizzycray: I am going to try signing off 15906 today. Likely I will write some tests for it first
23:04 wizzycray      I like your style
23:04 wizzycray      :)
23:06 florent        wizzycray: sadly, from writing too many tests, I learned not to trust my understanding of code. (ie my tests are always right-er than my code, so annoying)
23:13 wizzycray      I like this thing we are doing on the web updater
23:13 wizzycray      where we put notices in the "error" text, in red
23:13 wizzycray      I wish, however, that it didn't say "ERROR" and instead said "notice"
23:14 wizzycray      oh neat, db update on master is stuck in an infinite loop
23:15 florent        wizzycray: Yeah. I noticed that this morning. Quite unfriendly :-(
23:18 wizzycray      to fix it, just go to installer/data/mysql/updatedatabase.pl and change the 16.056xxxxxxxx to 16.06xxxxxxxx and it should go on properly.
23:18 wizzycray      looks like a typo.
23:20 florent        indeed, that does the trick
23:23 wizzycray      there's a patch on bug 16619 as well
23:23 huginn         04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=16619 blocker, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, Needs Signoff , Installer stuck in infinite loop
23:28 * dcook        waves
23:30 dcook          Oh my...
23:30 dcook          wizzycray: I would've sworn that I just used the web installer yesterday?
23:31 wizzycray      you probably did, they did that change overnight I think
23:31 dcook          Ahh, yes, that seems like a weird change to make..
23:31 wizzycray      Mon May 30 10:02:31 2016 +0000 < greece time
23:31 dcook          "Koha 16.06 - starting a new dev line at KohaCon16 in Thessaloniki, Greece!"
23:31 dcook          Also, I'm going to hold in my feelings about not being there...
23:43 wizzycray      yeah, I'm pretty upset to be missing out
23:43 wizzycray      but so much to do here.
23:51 wizzycray      florent - switching the dateformat to match the data, it's correct that the records import (they do)?
23:53 florent        if the dates can be parsed with the chosen dateformat, they should import.
23:53 wizzycray      coolio :D
23:53 florent        the defect was when the date were not parsing, they would be silently overwriten with system default
23:54 florent        system default should only be used when no dates are provided
23:57 florent        With dateformat, I didn't change the logic. If I remember well , the problem was around the error being push to @missing_critical after that array was last considered in the loop