IRC log for #koha, 2016-05-26

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00:17 pastebot "brdrgz" at pasted "debug output for koha-create" (45 lines) at
00:20 brdrgz Any configuration pre-reqs to running koha-create for a new instance?  I've added it to /etc/hosts, but that's it
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01:24 bag did I lose internets?
01:32 brdrgz anyone have time to help me a bit? :)
01:37 bag brdrgz: you on debian?
01:37 brdrgz yup, deb7
01:37 brdrgz koha-common 3.20.00
01:37 bag hmm.. 3.20
01:38 bag why 3.20.00 instead of 3.20.17 (or whereever we currently are?)
01:38 bag and deb7 versus deb8?
01:40 bag ah I see deb7 cause you’re trying to add an instanst
01:40 bag disregard by question
01:43 bag why “sudo bash -x /usr/sbin/koha-create --create-db asdfdev”  instead of just sudo koha-create
01:46 brdrgz Well, there are plans to upgrade, was just hoping to get the other instance added and then upgrade
01:47 brdrgz I did try "sudo koha-create --create-db asdfdev", but was hoping the debug switch would help give me more info
01:47 bag right
01:48 bag yeah I am not much help at the moment.  I mean you’ve already got a site on there and it’s running.  so you should just be able to create another doing that step
01:51 brdrgz Yeah it's quite odd.  I was just thinking it might be that my koha-sites.conf is missing the SRU default configs, maybe I'll try adding those
01:59 bag hmm yeah let us know on that
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03:14 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Translation updates for Koha 16.05.00 release <[…]129efd0ae10c16784>
03:24 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Final DBRev for the 3.23 dev to 16.05 <[…]fb67afb869e23cb47>
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06:43 * magnuse waves
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06:46 fridolin hie there
06:48 magnuse bonjour fridolin
06:49 fridolin bonjour magnuse
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06:57 alex_a bonjour
06:57 wahanui salut, alex_a
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07:10 gaetan_B hello
07:10 wahanui what's up, gaetan_B
07:16 eythian hi
07:24 magnuse kia ora eythian
07:24 magnuse catmandu today?
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07:28 eythian yep
07:37 rangi eythian: at some point I should rewrite our marc creator to use catmandu, for migrations
07:38 eythian yeah, I've been thinking that for a while.
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08:13 Martin-SUB Hello...
08:13 wahanui it has been said that hello is there an official install guide? i couldnt find anything on the docs page of the site
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08:28 marcelr hi #koha
08:34 pianohacker hello!
08:36 magnuse hiya marcelr and pianohacker
08:36 marcelr hi pianohacker and magnuse
08:36 rangi @later tell joubu key installed
08:36 huginn rangi: The operation succeeded.
08:37 marcelr and rangi
08:37 marcelr magnuse: got a chance to look at the normac plugin for 008 ?
08:37 marcelr normarc
08:38 rangi hi marcelr
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08:39 eythian * normarc is now known as "no marc"
08:40 marcelr no_marc++
08:41 drojf hello
08:41 wahanui que tal, drojf
08:43 fridolin hie devs, how do we configure zebrasrv daemon with Debian Jessie ?
08:43 fridolin since it uses systemd, the old init script is obsolete no ?
08:44 pianohacker fridolin: I belive you're right, but what's your question?
08:48 * magnuse wishes normarc was no_marc
08:48 magnuse marcelr: sorry, no
08:48 marcelr hope you will..
08:48 magnuse i'm battling a stubborn migration, and have 3 more of those lined up...
08:48 magnuse i will, one of these days
08:48 magnuse just dunno when
08:48 marcelr great
08:50 fridolin pianohacker: is there a doc or a new script to setup zebrasrv with systemd ?
08:50 pianohacker fridolin: a systemd compatibility service should automatically be created
08:51 pianohacker if not, I think there is a command to create it
08:51 fridolin pianohacker: yep but i think it does not start when server starts
08:51 pianohacker ah
08:52 pianohacker sudo systemctl enable zebrasrv
08:53 fridolin ah there are in /etc/systemd/system/
08:53 wahanui Hmm.  No matches for that, fridolin.
08:54 fridolin oki I'll try to configure it and create a doc in wiki
08:55 rangi drojf: cool :)
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09:18 eythian
09:19 magnuse jorol++
09:20 cait2 thx eythian :)
09:29 rangi[…]tributors/summary
09:29 rangi 3 of the contributorsin this room
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10:15 Joubu @later oleonard ping for bug 16548 comment 6 please
10:15 huginn Joubu: I'll give you the answer as soon as RDA is ready
10:15 Joubu @later tell oleonard ping for bug 16548 comment 6 please
10:15 huginn Joubu: The operation succeeded.
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10:35 rangi Joubu: I probably wont have time to look a the other xss ones that dont have patches yet today
10:36 rangi in the catmandu workshop and we are getting to the harder stuff this afternoon so I need to pay more attention
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11:24 oleonard Hi all
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11:28 oleonard y
11:29 * oleonard 's random existential keyboarding
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11:34 cait2 hi oleonard
11:36 rangi hi qxq :)
11:36 drojf hi qxq!
11:36 qxq hello :)
11:37 cait2 hi qxq :)
11:37 eythian wahanui: germany
11:37 wahanui germany is where germs come from. Ask me about germs.
11:42 oleonard No package for DBIx::RunSQL?
11:44 eythian nope
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11:45 oleonard I thought we didn't require stuff that wasn't packaged.
11:46 eythian yep
11:53 cait2 i hope it will get packaged before release
11:53 liw I'll push some packaging advice down your throats soon.
11:54 cait2 liw: not soon enough maybe :)
11:57 magnuse liw++
11:57 liw cait2, to quote a Debian slogan, all good things come to those who... wait
11:58 pianohacker oleonard: I think we're making an exception because it's the reasonable fix to a major blocker
11:58 cait2 :)
11:58 cait2 pianohacker: the problem is you can't install koha using packages if it's not packaged
11:59 cait2 it can be on our repo, but needs a package
11:59 Joubu looks like it's easy to package
11:59 Joubu (/me is not candidate)
12:04 cait2 i can't
12:05 cait2 maybe tomas? who knows how to do that?
12:05 cait2 i haven't been around the last few days so no idea if someone is already working on it or not
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12:06 rangi https://wiki.koha-community.or[…]bian_Dependencies
12:06 rangi basically you follow that, I know khall_away has registered with the debian perl team
12:06 rangi if he had time that would be good
12:09 LibraryClaire afternoon #koha
12:10 cait2 hi LibraryClaire :)
12:10 LibraryClaire hi cait2 :)
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12:25 drojf i built a package locally yesterday i think
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12:30 marcelr Joubu: any idea what triggers this "valid" warning in qa tools: Name "Cache::RemovalStrategy::FIELDS" used only once: possible typo
12:30 nengard morning all
12:31 marcelr hi nengard
12:33 oleonard marcelr: Do you have a moment to talk about cataloging plugins?
12:33 marcelr yes oleonard
12:33 wahanui oleonard is not really here.  He said so.  He did!
12:33 marcelr what about it?
12:34 oleonard I was thinking about how we could make the interface a little more clear, particularly on the add item form
12:34 oleonard I'd like to get away from the "..." link to something more clear
12:34 marcelr sounds good
12:35 marcelr some of these item plugins only have a focus method
12:35 oleonard Yes, I notice that there are a few types of plugins handled on the additem screen: Authority search, "popup" and "nopopup"
12:35 marcelr and clicking on the button just triggers focus
12:36 marcelr auth search may be something different
12:36 oleonard My understanding is that the the focus method plugins should be displayed as "nopopup," but it seems like this isn't always the case.
12:37 marcelr an argument to leaving the button was that it is a visible reminder that there is a plugin attached
12:37 marcelr otherwise removing the button would be an option
12:37 marcelr but we could make it visible some other way
12:38 oleonard Do you understand what I mean by the "popup" and "nopopup" designation?
12:38 oleonard It's something I see in the template.
12:38 marcelr yeah i remember it
12:38 Joubu marcelr: not at all, I just executed the tests
12:39 Joubu marcelr: ha sorry
12:39 marcelr Joubu: i see that warning when qaing the first patch of bug 15545
12:39 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=15545 enhancement, P5 - low, ---,, ASSIGNED , Optionally require notes when placing a hold
12:39 Joubu thought you were talking about something else :)
12:39 marcelr np
12:39 oleonard For instance, the "Date acquired" field has a plugin which auto-fills the date on focus, but the plugin link is displayed as if it is a "popup" type plugin
12:39 marcelr ok i think that is wrong
12:40 Joubu marcelr: see bug 16104
12:40 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=16104 normal, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Stable , Warnings "used only once: possible typo" should be removed
12:40 Joubu all what I know is on this bug report
12:40 marcelr ok thx will have a look
12:41 oleonard marcelr: You've been doing so much work on plugins I thought you might know what is going on with that.
12:42 marcelr oleonard: i'll have to look little bit closer to recall what happens
12:42 marcelr so your question specifically is about dateaccessioned?
12:44 oleonard If you could look at that one, perhaps you might be able to explain to me how it works... where the popup/nopopup setting comes from
12:44 oleonard also seems wrong
12:44 marcelr i think i recall already: the cause is that these plugins still use old style; note that i have a report somewhere converting them
12:44 oleonard Yes
12:45 oleonard I was hoping that we might be able to at least display a different link+icon for the different styles of plugin
12:45 marcelr the old ones probably do not respond to mv.nopopup
12:45 oleonard Ah
12:46 marcelr nopopup     => $plugin->noclick,
12:46 marcelr in additem noclick is called and passed as nopopup to the template
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12:48 marcelr yeah thats it
12:48 oleonard And the old style plugins will need to be updated before it will be consistent?
12:49 marcelr for this particular detail they do
12:50 oleonard Thank you very much marcelr, that helped me understand a lot better.
12:51 marcelr ok will do a quick test with the items report to prove my point :)
12:51 rangi drojf: whats the name of the bier garten?
12:52 marcelr yes oleonard if you apply bug 16203, date acquired in items will say: Tag editor
12:52 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=16203 enhancement, P5 - low, ---,, Needs Signoff , Convert item plugins to new style (see bug 10480)
12:52 rangi thanks
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12:57 rangi excellent they have Berliner Weiße
12:57 rangi can't leave without having one
12:58 drojf [librecat-dev] Elasticsearch 2.0 support and a new fix parser[…]6-May/000079.html
12:58 rangi sweet
12:59 oleonard marcelr: Why doesn't the date acquired plugin say 'no popup' instead?
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12:59 marcelr strang thing is that if i reset the new patch, i still see tag editor even when refreshing etc
13:00 marcelr are we looking to the same item edityor?
13:02 marcelr will go latest master now
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13:12 marcelr oleonard: i thought you saw nopop? but i am seeing tag editor in both cases
13:12 marcelr this is caused by the function Clic code in the javascript
13:12 marcelr it just contains a call to focus, but the plugin thinks it is clickable
13:13 oleonard In master, with your patches for 16203 applied, I see 'tag editor' for date acquired and 'no popup' for barcode.
13:13 marcelr maybe we should add some intelligent(..) property here (temporarily?) to make the distinction
13:13 marcelr i will check barcode now
13:15 marcelr oleonard: i am seeing three item plugins all three incl barcode see Tag editor with me
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13:16 marcelr i am in the latest master now
13:17 marcelr s/see/say/
13:18 oleonard Yes, in master date acquired and barcode both say 'tag editor'
13:19 marcelr yeah and that is confusing, but the cause is redirecting click to focus
13:19 marcelr i could live with removing that click code
13:20 marcelr but we should make visible somehow that a plugin is active
13:20 marcelr and you can do that probably much better than me :)
13:21 oleonard Yes, it was my goal to figure out how to make those links more clear about what they do
13:21 marcelr or we should add something in the plugins that tells that this is not really a click event but just a redirected focus
13:22 marcelr it sounds ugly however
13:22 marcelr property i_am_not_really_a_click_event ;)
13:23 oleonard I think having the click event is fine if we make the link more clear about what it does
13:23 oleonard That's what I am hoping to do
13:24 marcelr but we would like to have a distinction between a real popup and just a focus action
13:24 oleonard Yes
13:24 marcelr i will think a little bit about it and let you know
13:25 marcelr have to go now
13:25 marcelr bye koha
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13:31 cait2 someone with master
13:31 cait2 can you go check if you see letters in the tool?
13:31 cait2 mine has vanished although i have lots of entries in the letter table in the db
13:32 cait2 :(
13:32 cait2 mine have vanished... it reads there are no letters defined but there shoudl be plenty
13:33 oleonard cait2: Do you have a branch selected which has no notices?
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13:34 cait2 all libraries
13:35 cait2 i also checked some branches
13:35 cait2 :(
13:36 cait2 we are packing up, could you leave me alater if it works for you?
13:36 cait2 or not?
13:36 wahanui it has been said that not is maybe removed from my search
13:36 oleonard cait2: It works for me
13:37 cait2 strange
13:37 cait2 this is latest master
13:37 cait2 and if i do a report "select * from letter* they all show up
13:37 cait2 so right database for this installation
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13:40 * oleonard hopes the hackfesters will raise a glass to those who cannot be present, especially your favorites, we know who we are.
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14:52 oleonard That nagging feeling you've already filed a bug report for something but you can't find it...
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15:00 tcohen guten morgen
15:00 wahanui guten morgen is german :)
15:05 bag morning
15:11 bag I’ll go ahead with the release today, just with a BIG note saying that Koha isn’t supported for mysql 5.7
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15:13 fridolin oh good to know
15:13 fridolin bag: what about mariaDB ?
15:13 bag I haven’t had troubles
15:15 bag and hi there fridolin - good to see you back :)  (I don’t think I said hi when you returned)
15:20 fridolin bag: thanks a lot
15:20 fridolin i'm a bit frozen
15:20 bag heh - it’s chilly here too
15:20 fridolin but im working on getting hot on 3.22 :D
15:20 bag @wunder pdx
15:20 huginn bag: The current temperature in Mikeshouse Cully, Portland, Oregon is 13.5°C (8:11 AM PDT on May 26, 2016). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 66%. Dew Point: 7.0°C. Pressure: 30.24 in 1024 hPa (Steady).
15:21 oleonard @wunder 45701
15:21 huginn oleonard: The current temperature in Longview Hts, Athens, Ohio is 23.7°C (11:21 AM EDT on May 26, 2016). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 75%. Dew Point: 19.0°C. Pressure: 30.10 in 1019 hPa (Steady).
15:21 fridolin and I've just set up my dev env wiht LXDd
15:21 bag 23 - that’s too hot :P
15:21 fridolin suggar
15:26 tcohen hi fridolin
15:27 fridolin tcohen: hie mister
15:28 fridolin i've battled to setup my dev env but now its clean
15:28 fridolin LXD + Eclipse + GIT
15:28 fridolin whooo
15:28 fridolin it allows me to test wheezy, xenial ...
15:29 nengard @wunder 78754
15:29 huginn nengard: The current temperature in North Acres, Austin, Texas is 26.3°C (10:25 AM CDT on May 26, 2016). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 87%. Dew Point: 24.0°C. Pressure: 29.94 in 1014 hPa (Rising).
15:30 oleonard I wonder if the hackfesters will still want simple patches for testing
15:32 tcohen fridolin: sounds great!
15:32 tcohen fridolin: my plan is to have use kohadevbox to maintain a docker dev env
15:33 tcohen keep kohadevbox ansible scripts for the deployment
15:33 tcohen but use it to generate a docker image
15:33 tcohen everyone can download and just use
15:33 fridolin we are using Xenial for your futur installs, its more compatible with LXD
15:34 fridolin + plack and Nginx
15:34 tcohen yup
15:34 tcohen only problem is the DB
15:34 tcohen 5.7 is not working
15:34 tcohen for Koha
15:34 fridolin tcohen: only for Mysql not MariaDB ?
15:35 * tcohen haven't tried actuallyt
15:35 fridolin we are using MariaDB
15:35 fridolin ah oki
15:35 fridolin ill try
15:35 tcohen mysql got stricter (updatedatabase and install don't work)
15:35 tcohen and also some other changes
15:35 tcohen maybe maria is not affected
15:37 fridolin what about DBIx/ dependency
15:37 fridolin is it in Debian somewhere ?
15:37 fridolin i cant find it
15:37 oleonard It's not
15:38 oleonard I guess we are hoping someone will volunteer to package it.
15:38 bag yes gmcharlt is packaging that this weekend
15:38 fridolin oki coool
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15:46 fridolin bag: note that this perl module is quite simple, i've placed it in /usr/local/lib and it works
15:46 fridolin i have to go, see u
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15:47 bag later
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18:14 bag ok going to grab some food - still working on the notes
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19:16 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Release Notes for 16.05.00 <[…]ec65bbec2129d597e>
19:50 bag
19:52 bgkriegel bag++
19:52 bag thanks!
20:01 bgkriegel bag: Good Job!! :)
20:01 bgkriegel hope we can fix those mysql 5.7 problems
20:05 bag yes :)  we should be able to
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20:40 * magnuse hopes the cool kids in berlin are having the appropriate amount of fun
20:51 ibeardslee I've seen rangi's beer posts, so I assume so.
20:51 drojf yes :D
20:52 drojf looks like i left seconds before 16.05. d'oh
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21:00 * andreashm waves
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21:26 drojf bag++
21:26 drojf koha++
21:26 eythian @later tell rangi
21:26 huginn eythian: The operation succeeded.
21:27 eythian ibeardslee: ^ also
21:30 drojf i think we did a good job at keeping the change in version numbering a secret :)
21:30 bag heh I guess so
21:32 drojf i wanted to bake a 16.05 cake for the hackfest, but i think i will buy 16+05 bottles of beer instead
21:32 bag how about 16^5 beers ;)
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21:33 drojf depends on how thirsty eythian will be
21:34 bag awesome the koha hoodies and tshirts are ready for kohacon.  I’ll be selling them there with all the money raised going to the koha fund :D
21:34 eythian Did you say 16^5! Because that's a pretty big factorial.
21:36 drojf we'll find out after sleep. good night ;)
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23:40 Brooke o/
23:43 Brooke @last seen Oak
23:43 huginn Brooke: (last [--{from,in,on,with,without,regexp} <value>] [--nolimit]) -- Returns the last message matching the given criteria. --from requires a nick from whom the message came; --in requires a channel the message was sent to; --on requires a network the message was sent on; --with requires some string that had to be in the message; --regexp requires a regular expression the message must match; --nolimit (1 more message)
23:43 Brooke @lastseen Oak
23:43 huginn Brooke: downloading the Perl source
23:54 Brooke hi kid
23:54 kidclamp Hi brooke
23:55 Brooke coding or at Conference or neither?
23:56 kidclamp neither, wrapping up tickets
23:56 kidclamp reports etc
23:56 kidclamp you?
23:57 liz @seen Oak
23:57 huginn liz: Oak was last seen in #koha 1 day, 16 hours, 53 minutes, and 57 seconds ago: <Oak> hello
23:57 liz there you go
23:57 Brooke <3 wiz
23:57 Brooke <---- big dummy
23:58 kidclamp nah, irc just has particular syntax
23:59 Brooke which I used to know XD

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