IRC log for #koha, 2016-05-25

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00:11 Francesca hello
00:42 wizzyrea heya
01:12 Francesca sup
01:35 wizzyrea feel a bit like celine dion
01:36 wizzyrea "all by myself"
01:39 dcook :p
01:39 * dcook is trying to solve networking issues
01:39 dcook Actually, I think I fixed the networking
01:39 dcook But somehow enabling a VMware virtual adapter causes another program to crash which takes down a USB mobile modem...
01:40 dcook Which especially sucks as I need the virtual adapter to connect to the mobile modem via the host...
01:44 * mtj waves to wizzyrea, Francesca, dcook :0)
01:44 * Francesca waves back at mtj :)
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01:45 mtj dcook: im making some good progress on my inbox too :P
01:46 mtj Francesca, wiz - i hope you gals are keeping warm, atm
01:46 Francesca yes I am in bed
01:46 Francesca writing essays
01:46 dcook yo mtj
01:46 dcook Haha. That's good!
01:46 Francesca btw hi dcook
01:46 Francesca @wunder wlg
01:46 huginn Francesca: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 14.0°C (1:30 PM NZST on May 25, 2016). Conditions: Light Rain. Humidity: 77%. Dew Point: 10.0°C. Pressure: 29.12 in 986 hPa (Steady).
01:46 dcook Oooh. There's a software upgrade which I can do at the office..
01:46 dcook hey Francesca
01:46 wahanui Francesca is a junior developer with koha (suprise)
01:46 mtj Francesca: thats about as good as it gets, for today :)
01:46 Francesca lol I should change that now
01:47 mtj wahanui: forget Francesca
01:47 wahanui mtj: I forgot francesca
01:47 Francesca mtj: I'm only in bed because my pierced ears got infected and then I reacted to the antibiotic
01:48 Francesca wahanui: I am <reply> Francesca is a musical front end cat person
01:48 wahanui OK, Francesca.
01:48 mtj yow, thats double bad :'(
01:48 Francesca ya its very bad luck
01:48 Francesca espically at the end of the semester
01:50 mtj teatree oil might help Francesca? - (its my 'go to')
01:50 Francesca hmm good idea
01:50 * Francesca makes a note
01:51 mtj ->
01:51 Francesca nice
01:51 mtj can get them from most supermarkets
01:53 Francesca yeah I think I've seen it at the pharmacy as well
01:54 Francesca wahanui wizzyrea is <reply> lonely I'm mr lonely I have nobody to call my own!
01:54 wahanui ...but wizzyrea is so dumb at rewrite rules....
01:54 kidclamp heh
01:54 Francesca yes and wizzyrea is also <reply> lonely I'm mr lonely I have nobody to call my own!
01:55 Francesca wahanui wizzyrea is also <reply> lonely I'm mr lonely I have nobody to call my own!
01:55 wahanui okay, Francesca.
01:55 Francesca yay it worked
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05:59 * Oak waves
06:00 Oak Hello wizzyrea :)
06:00 Oak magnuse
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07:02 fridolin hie
07:03 Oak hello
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07:22 gaetan_B hello
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07:49 * magnuse waves
07:49 magnuse @wunder berlin
07:49 huginn magnuse: Error: No such location could be found.
07:49 magnuse @wunder berlin, germany
07:49 huginn magnuse: The current temperature in Berlin Tegel, Germany is 13.0°C (9:20 AM CEST on May 25, 2016). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 88%. Dew Point: 11.0°C. Pressure: 29.92 in 1013 hPa (Steady).
07:49 magnuse @wunder boo
07:49 huginn magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 7.0°C (9:20 AM CEST on May 25, 2016). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 81%. Dew Point: 4.0°C. Windchill: 4.0°C. Pressure: 30.33 in 1027 hPa (Steady).
07:49 magnuse @wunder marseille
07:49 huginn magnuse: The current temperature in Marseille, France is 19.0°C (9:30 AM CEST on May 25, 2016). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 60%. Dew Point: 11.0°C. Pressure: 29.92 in 1013 hPa (Steady).
07:49 magnuse @wunder thessaloniki
07:49 huginn magnuse: The current temperature in Thessaloniki, Greece is 20.0°C (10:20 AM EEST on May 25, 2016). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 33%. Dew Point: 3.0°C. Pressure: 29.74 in 1007 hPa (Steady).
07:49 pianohacker hi magnuse !
07:49 magnuse y'all win
07:49 magnuse hiya pianohacker!
07:49 magnuse weird time for pianohacker - are you in berlin?
07:50 pianohacker yup
07:50 magnuse ah lucky you!
07:50 magnuse is bag all set fior releasing 16.05 tomorrow?
07:53 pianohacker magnuse: I believe so. I may be helping a bit from afar
08:00 fridolin does not work
08:00 fridolin it known ?
08:00 pianohacker hi fridolin!
08:01 fridolin pianohacker: hi
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08:11 * ashimema wishes he was in berlin
08:11 ashimema morning #koha
08:15 rangi morning
08:15 liw rangi, guten morgen
08:17 rangi Joubu: splitter is fixed
08:17 ashimema rangi also in berlin?
08:17 eythian who _isn't_ in Berlin these days?
08:18 ashimema :'(
08:18 rangi ashimema: yep, sitting near your colleague
08:18 ashimema damn school holidays messing up my plans to attend.. damn having children ;)
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08:18 ashimema Coolios.. I can't remember if alex has met you before
08:19 rangi nope first time
08:20 ashimema hoe he's behaving himself ;P
08:20 ashimema s/hoe/hope
08:20 ashimema surprised he's not on here yet today to be honest
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08:31 ashimema working on anything particularly intresting at hackfest rangi?
08:34 rangi well now we have elasticsearch, im playing with kibana as a dashboard
08:35 ashimema cool
08:36 ashimema I had a bit of a play with Kibana
08:36 ashimema but I didn't have the time to really get to grips with it enough.. too many other distractions at the time
08:36 ashimema would be interested in your thoughts once you've had a play with it..
08:37 ashimema We're really interetsed in a combined analytics solution grabbing data from ILS, Lists, VLE's and the likes to allow reporting across the full set in one place
08:37 ashimema I wondered if Kibana might be the way to go.. I think we decided to put the project on hold for a while whilst we finish up some other projects
08:40 eythian ashimema: the way I'd approach that would be have systems logging/reporting to something that gets fed into ES, then you can query that.
08:40 eythian but that would require patching all systems to allow it.
08:41 magnuse i think oslo public library has been playing with kibana and es
08:41 ashimema that's pretty much where we were coming from
08:41 ashimema I was starting with Logstash
08:41 magnuse ask Ruruk about it when you meet him
08:41 ashimema but there's chunks of data we coudln't get via default logs
08:42 pastebot "rangi" at pasted "Bugs for cait" (13 lines) at
08:42 ashimema I also found Kibana/Logstash to be a bit restrictive.. but that likely was my lack on knolledge
08:43 ashimema it felt very good for time series data.. (i.e. logs).. but for combining that with anything else fels hard
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08:43 ashimema Our academic customers are really interested in this sort of thing.. they really want to have a joined up reporting tool
08:44 eythian <-- ashimema
08:44 ashimema :).. funnily enough.. I've just started looking at that one.
08:44 * ashimema wants more time in a day
08:45 * magnuse too
08:46 liw may I recomm3nd moving to Mars, in that case? :)
08:47 liw cheap real-estate, a year that's twice as long...
08:47 ashimema haha
08:47 ashimema good lack of distractions I imagine too ;)
08:54 magnuse let's have a hackfest on mars, at least!
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09:12 mveron Hi #koha
09:12 mveron @wunder allschwil
09:12 huginn mveron: The current temperature in Basel, Switzerland is 15.0°C (11:00 AM CEST on May 25, 2016). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 67%. Dew Point: 9.0°C. Pressure: 29.98 in 1015 hPa (Steady).
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09:50 drojf hi #koha
09:53 eythian drojf: so you say!
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09:54 cait2 hi all - say hi to the german hackfest?
09:54 drojf hi hackfest
09:54 eythian g'day
09:54 cait @bug 16004
09:54 huginn cait: Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=16004 normal, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, RESOLVED FIXED, Replace with items.new_status
09:54 cait @wunder Berlin
09:54 drojf @marc 100
09:54 huginn drojf: A personal name used as a main entry in a bibliographic record. [a,b,c,d,e,f,g,j,k,l,n,p,q,t,u,4,6,8]
09:54 huginn cait: Error: No such location could be found.
09:55 cait @wunder Berlin, Germany
09:55 huginn cait: The current temperature in Berlin Tegel, Germany is 14.0°C (11:50 AM CEST on May 25, 2016). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 82%. Dew Point: 11.0°C. Pressure: 29.92 in 1013 hPa (Steady).
09:55 rangi guten morgen
09:55 wahanui i think guten morgen is german :)
09:55 eythian wahanui: germs
09:55 wahanui Germs originated in Germany, before rapidly spreading throughout the rest of the world.
09:55 rangi @karma cait
09:55 huginn rangi: Karma for "cait" has been increased 364 times and decreased 0 times for a total karma of 364.
09:55 rangi @wunder nzwn
09:55 huginn rangi: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 14.0°C (9:30 PM NZST on May 25, 2016). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 55%. Dew Point: 5.0°C. Pressure: 29.24 in 990 hPa (Steady).
09:56 pianohacker cait++
09:58 cait manual?
09:58 wahanui rumour has it manual is at
09:59 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 13669: followup to add DBIx::RunSQL dependency <[…]a2f46697b611e1351>
10:00 cait jajm around?
10:00 jajm hi cait
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10:01 cait we are going to hit the sandboxes in a bit
10:01 cait just a warning :)
10:02 cait just in case you want to check that they are all well :P
10:03 jajm they should be okay, but please be nice with them :-)
10:03 cait we will try to be gently
10:04 cait gentle
10:04 jajm ping me if you have any problem
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10:08 cait jajm: thx - we are going to lunch and then will introduce the sandboxes
10:08 cait so maybe in an hour or a bit les
10:08 cait s
10:08 cait btw rangi eythian atheia - food options on the big screen!
10:09 drojf lunch options:[…]ckfest/lunch.html
10:09 eythian <-- pianohacker
10:09 pianohacker drojf: as the token american I vote for German food
10:11 drojf pianohacker: we'll split up i guess
10:12 atheia I reckon Sahara Imbiss sounds pretty good… ;-)
10:13 drojf we'll go to sahara with a few people, we can try to fit in alltogether
10:13 eythian Sahara Imbiss works for me too :)
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10:27 ashimema did someone say sandboxes..
10:28 ashimema reminds me.. I should ramp up the spec on our sandbox machine for the duration of hackfest/kohacon
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10:30 magnuse reminds me... i should create a couple of normarc sandboxes
10:32 ashimema ptfs-europe sandboxes are going down for reboot now
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11:12 alex_a bonjour
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11:43 oleonard Hi #koha
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11:46 druthb Hi, oleonard.
11:47 oleonard @seen marcelr
11:47 huginn oleonard: marcelr was last seen in #koha 1 day, 22 hours, 31 minutes, and 22 seconds ago: <marcelr> detaching from irc
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11:55 pianohacker Joubu: around?
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12:10 eythian cait2: what's the model of your laptop?
12:11 pianohacker cait2: and why are you doubled?
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12:12 oleonard pianohacker: I think we missed a clone fight, but cait2 won.
12:13 pianohacker noooo
12:13 pianohacker I don't want evil-universe cait with a goatee ::(
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12:52 cait2 jajm - anything worng with sandbox 7?
12:55 * rangi is crashing hard ... my brain is telling me its 1am, must eat more candy
12:56 jajm cait2, i don't know, what is not working ?
12:56 cait2 not getting email and not seeing a change
12:56 jajm cait2, "Sandbox setup by unknown with database 1 and bug 16531 on Wed May 25 14:52:59 2016" not you ?
12:56 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=16531 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, aleishaamohia, Signed Off , Circ overdues report is showing an empty table if no overdues
12:57 cait2 hm it is me, but no email
12:57 jajm hmm i don't remember if we fixed the mail problem the last time
12:57 jajm and our sysadmin is not here today :/
12:59 oleonard Oh sorry cait2 I shouldn't have been signing off today. Forgot you might need some easily tested ones.
13:00 rangi cait: i have nothing to say, im just doing this to make it show on the big screen
13:00 rangi darn
13:00 rangi cait2: i have nothing to say, im just doing this to make it show on the big screen
13:00 eythian cait2: look out behind you!!!
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13:13 rangi hmm I wonder if we can get some more ram in the git server
13:14 ashimema wow.. this is on a big screen now is it?
13:15 rangi naw, only when you say cait2
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13:15 t4nk315 any one around
13:17 oleonard Hi t4nk315
13:18 t4nk315 do u generate barcode with Koha
13:18 eythian well, time to change my passwords!
13:19 oleonard t4nk315: No we don't
13:19 t4nk315 why
13:19 * magnuse waves to cait2
13:20 t4nk315 and what about importing data using z39?
13:20 magnuse ...and all the other cool kids in berlin
13:20 oleonard t4nk315: We have label printers which include barcode generation software which we use instead
13:20 oleonard t4nk315: We do use Z39.50 to import records
13:20 cait2 we need more easy bugs :)
13:21 t4nk315 So it generates 9 pages of importing data?
13:21 rangi cait2: https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]_bug.cgi?id=16540
13:21 huginn Bug 16540: trivial, P5 - low, ---, veron, Needs Signoff , Translatability in (tag-splitted sentences)
13:21 ashimema anyone mind if I reboot ptfs-europe sandboxes again?
13:21 eythian * pianohackfest is now known as casiotonechopper
13:21 cait2 do you know how to trigger the message?
13:22 cait2 it has no good test plan, i am not sure when the message shows
13:23 rangi cait2: https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]_bug.cgi?id=16494
13:23 huginn Bug 16494: enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Needs Signoff , Remove the use of "onclick" from some patron pages
13:23 rangi https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]_bug.cgi?id=16469
13:23 huginn Bug 16469: enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Needs Signoff , Remove the use of "onclick" from some catalog pages
13:24 ashimema restarting
13:25 t4nk315 are u guys part of development team
13:25 ashimema should be back up imminently
13:25 eythian t4nk315: some are
13:25 t4nk315 ok
13:25 eythian most talking in here are
13:26 t4nk315 Does any one here generate bardode from Koha
13:30 pianohackfest t4nk315: did you post to the mailing list earlier today?
13:36 t4nk315 no I didn't
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13:45 tcohen guten Morgen
13:45 wahanui somebody said guten Morgen was german :)
13:49 * mveron waves, especially to the Berlin Hackfest
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14:09 oleonard yay, splitter is back up
14:10 mveron splitter ++
14:15 jajm tcohen, it looks like some dependencies are missing from jenkins machines (and hi ;))
14:15 ashimema splitter++
14:16 tcohen hi jajm :_D
14:16 tcohen will take a look
14:20 rangi https://wiki.koha-community.or[…]a_on_ubuntu_-_git
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14:58 oleonard Some new template patches in the queue if you guys are still looking
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16:30 gaetan_B bye
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17:28 drojf evening
17:29 kidclamp did you ever get devbox up drojf
17:30 drojf did not try anymore
17:31 drojf did not work for me unfortunately. i had some errors that i did not have time to resolve
17:31 drojf and no time left before the hackfest. i set up a gitified vm now
17:32 kidclamp fair enough, the only thought I had was when it failed for me with hanging I was on a machine that didn't support 32 bit virtualization
17:32 kidclamp 64 bit that is
17:32 drojf yes that was my first problem, a few months ago. but i got a new notebook since then and i ran into several errors,
17:33 drojf maybe it does not like jessie, i did not try ubuntu
17:34 kidclamp I do use ubuntu,so could be
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17:36 drojf i would have tried to look what the actual errors were, but short on time.
17:36 drojf wow i'm tired :D
17:36 drojf but i think the hackfest went ok, nobody cried
17:44 magnuse drojf++
17:44 * magnuse wanders off
17:44 drojf hibye magnuse
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19:00 Joubu drojf: kohadevbox works for me on jessie, just need to get the latest ansible
19:00 Joubu ha, I also got errors which were fixed with a `git submodule update --init` or something, but the trick was given by the error
19:02 drojf maybe that was the error i had. it did tell me something, but that was after 2 hours of trying and i quit
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19:48 tcohen hi
19:48 wahanui bidet, tcohen
19:50 drojf hi tcohen
19:58 bag bug 16573
19:58 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=16573 critical, P5 - low, ---, bgkriegel, Needs Signoff , Web installer fails to load structure and sample data on MySQL 5.7
19:58 bag bug 16554
19:58 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=16554 critical, P5 - low, ---, bgkriegel, Needs Signoff , Web installer fails to load i18n sample data on MySQL 5.6+
20:09 tcohen hi drojf
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20:11 drojf got to catch the koha tourist group for a beer. see you tomorrow #koha
20:32 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Updating the Debian/control <[…]a43f7b1bc852a0bf3>
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22:14 bag @seen cait
22:14 huginn bag: cait was last seen in #koha 12 hours, 5 minutes, and 57 seconds ago: <cait> btw rangi eythian atheia - food options on the big screen!
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22:22 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 15333: [QA Follow-up] Add few tests <[…]59e53f9e118c7c292> / Bug 15333: Use Koha::Cache to cache exception_holidays instead of a package variable <[…]9ebafe434bf79c878> / Bug 16587: Same fixes for the staff interface <
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22:58 cbrannon Has anyone here worked with self registration in Koha?
23:00 bag what’s the question?
23:00 bag I haven’t done too much with it - but I sort of have an idea (I think)
23:03 cbrannon A couple questions.  I know the registration disappears if the patron doesn't validate, but what if they do but don't pick up their card.  Does the account just expire, as set with the patron type we specify for self registration?
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23:04 * Francesca waves
23:05 wizzyrea cbrannon: that kind of depends on the library workflow around self registration
23:06 wizzyrea because what happens between validating the user in Koha and when the card is picked up is really kind of up to the library
23:06 wizzyrea so maybe describe your workflow there a bit more, and we can help
23:06 wizzyrea (but sadly I have to run away to a meeting
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23:11 cbrannon I'm trying to get a bead on how it works, especially if we allow a few holds after registratration.  Basically, patron registers, is validated through e-mail, logs in and places holds if needed.  They have a week to show up at the library and get a card.  We have enrollment period for the self registration category set to 1 month.  So, I assume in a month the patron expires if they haven't picked up a card and are moved to a new category.  If they don't p
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23:20 pastebot "brdrgz" at pasted "koha-sites.conf" (61 lines) at
23:21 brdrgz Hello guys, I'm trying to add an additional koha instance to a server I'm working on, and I am running into some trouble with koha-create
23:22 brdrgz Running `sudo koha-create --create-db libraryname-dev` yields /etc/koha/koha-sites.conf: line 61: unexpected EOF while looking for matching `"'
23:23 brdrgz I'm following both https://wiki.koha-community.or[…]tallation_Process and https://wiki.koha-community.or[…]Instances_of_Koha
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