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barton |
evening #koha, I have a debian wheezy box with zebra 2.0.44-3 installed via standard wheezy/main amd64 Packages ... I need to upgrade to 2.0.59-1... I'm trying to figure out which repo to pull from |
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* dcook |
shudders at the mention of 2.0.59 |
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barton |
oh? |
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dcook |
ICU bug :/ |
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barton |
ick. |
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dcook |
I don't think you can install 2.0.59-1 for wheezy? |
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dcook |
I think it's only available for Jessie? |
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dcook |
https://packages.debian.org/wheezy/idzebra-2.0 |
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dcook |
If you're upgrading though, I'd just use the Indexdata Debian repo and get 2.0.62 :D |
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dcook |
*upgrading Zebra only and not the whole OS |
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dcook |
Honestly, I don't know why we don't use the Indexdata repo for it... |
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barton |
well, this is a test box, and I'm trying to upgrade to see if I can replicate an issue, so... |
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dcook |
O_o |
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dcook |
I'm not sure I follow |
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dcook |
What system is having the issue? |
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dcook |
A Jessie system? |
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barton |
Yep. |
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dcook |
I'd recommend using Jessie then :) |
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dcook |
barton: Failing that, you could probably just download the .deb from http://ftp.indexdata.dk/pub/zebra/debian/wheezy/ |
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dcook |
http://ftp.indexdata.dk/pub/ze[…]indexdata_all.deb |
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barton |
mmm. yeah... I guess that makes sense... I've got a pretty hefty database loaded on that instance, so I was hoping to avoid that. |
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barton |
ah, that sounds like the path of least resistance. |
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dcook |
hehe |
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dcook |
Although you might need to download a few packages I think |
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dcook |
You might want to set upt he Indexdata repository and then try somethign like this: http://askubuntu.com/questions[…]ith-exact-version |
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dcook |
Trying to just install that first one might lead to failures when it can't resolve certain dependencies? |
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dcook |
I have that repo set up on a server... let's see if I can fetch specific info.. |
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dcook |
Ah, except someone misconfigured that server during an upgrade... *facepalm* |
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barton |
gotta hate that. |
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dcook |
Yep, especially when I have other fish to fry.. |
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barton |
actually, let me run the underlying issue past you really quick -- when I have querystemming enabled, a search containing a single letter word, e.g. the 'a' in "To kill a mockingbird" takes about 2 minutes to complete. |
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dcook |
Yikes |
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dcook |
I would check to see what query is being generated |
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dcook |
I'm not sure what version of Koha has improved Zebra verbosity settings though... |
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dac |
hmm |
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barton |
Yeah. Now that's on a very slow file system ... |
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dcook |
"To kill mockingbird" works fine though? |
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barton |
yep. |
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dcook |
I suppose there might be an issue with the stemmer then? |
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dcook |
I think this is the one we use: http://search.cpan.org/~creamy[…]/Stem/Snowball.pm |
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barton |
It also catches the 't' in "don't" |
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dcook |
"catches"? |
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barton |
The problem occurs on words like "don't" ... |
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barton |
where the final 't' is apparently searched for separately. |
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dcook |
Ahh |
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dcook |
Bizarre |
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barton |
I don't think it's the stemmer... I reproduced the problem in zebra. |
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barton |
er yaz-client. |
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dcook |
Ah, good one |
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dcook |
That sounds very strange... |
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dcook |
Can you use pastebin for your inputs/outputs for yaz-client? |
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barton |
I think that it's a disk I/O issue... pianohacker was watching that, and we're also having horrible issues when indexing. |
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barton |
100K bibs and their authorities take ~12 hours to index. |
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barton |
there are things glusterfs is good for, and apparently zebra isn't one of them. |
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barton |
dcook, I'll see if I can find those yaz-client examples, there's been a bit of water under the bridge since I did that part of the trouble-shooting. |
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dcook |
Well, I have a reboot coming. Bbiab |
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barton |
@later tell dcook I added the wheezy idzebra repo... it had 2.0.59-1, but there were just too many un-met dependencies. (thank you apt-get --dry-run) |
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barton: The operation succeeded. |
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hi #koha |
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drojf |
cait: ah thanks, i checked in somehwere at the front |
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cait |
drojf: didn't pick a seat, no idea what c is, but i think either window or aisle |
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drojf |
window is a and f |
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cait |
ah cool :) |
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cait |
i wanted an aisle seat anyway :) |
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cait |
drojf: the encryption thing is acting up again |
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oleonard |
Hi All |
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drojf |
hi oleonard |
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drojf |
very little emails today. something is fishy |
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* oleonard |
signs drojf up for all the newsletters |
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drojf |
i get enough of those. but they end up in the junk folder automagically |
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oleonard |
Shouldn't the QA tool warn about something like this? '<a href="[% IF ( budget_period_id) %]/cgi-bin/koha/admin/aqbudgets.pl...' |
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hi all |
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oleonard |
Joubu did you see my question above about the QA tool? |
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Joubu |
oleonard: nope |
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oleonard |
Shouldn't the QA tool warn about something like this? '<a href="[% IF ( budget_period_id) %]/cgi-bin/koha/admin/aqbudgets.pl...' |
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oleonard |
an [% IF %] inside <a> ? |
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Joubu |
oleonard: this is checked in a xt script |
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Joubu |
we could add that check to the QA tools |
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oleonard |
Oh okay, that's just my misunderstanding. |
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Joubu |
hum actually it already should |
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oleonard: could you open a bug report and assign it to me please? |
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oleonard |
Yes |
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oleonard |
Joubu do you have a moment for another question? |
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oleonard: yep :) |
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oleonard |
I was looking at aleisha patch for branches.tt, and noticed that it's not possible to do [% IF ( libraries.size ) %] to check for the existence of libraries before showing the table. |
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oleonard |
[% libraries.size %] returns 1 even if there are no libraries. |
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oleonard |
Is there a better way to do it? Why doesn't it work? |
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oleonard: not sure |
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cait1 |
actually dunno :( |
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tcohen |
late morning |
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cait1 |
(15:41:09) oleonard: [% libraries.size %] returns 1 even if there are no libraries. |
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cait1 |
(15:41:33) oleonard: Is there a better way to do it? Why doesn't it work? |
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cait1 |
tcohen - doyou know? |
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tcohen |
i'd ask khall |
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tcohen |
i'm not sure about the context |
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oleonard |
I've asked Joubu since it's his code :) |
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* cait1 |
grumps about flags not having an id /something in memberentrygen |
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oleonard |
cait1: ? |
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Joubu |
oleonard: it depends what "libraries" is |
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cait1 |
i got a library that does not want to use the gone no address /lost card |
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cait1 |
and hiding it is hard |
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cait1 |
so i grump :) |
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cait1 |
$('label[for="yesgonenoaddress"]').parent().parent().parent().hide(); < works, but is not really nice? :) |
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Joubu |
oleonard: if it's an array, size will return the number of elements |
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Joubu |
but in your case it's certainly an object (from Koha::Libraries), in this case size will always return 1 |
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Joubu |
it should be count |
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Joubu |
but I think I have fixed this one, let me check |
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Joubu |
hum, I don't find it |
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Joubu |
oleonard: anyway, libraries.count should work |
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oleonard |
yes it does, thanks! |
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oleonard |
Joubu++ |
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oleonard |
cait1: If they don't want either of those flags can't you hide the whole fieldset? |
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cait1 |
yeah - but it has nothing to identify it nicely with |
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cait1 |
and doing by index seemed not a good idea |
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cait1 |
the fieldset only has a class 'rows' - but this is 3.22,not master |
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oleonard |
cait1: which 3.22? |
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cait1 |
hmsec |
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cait1 |
ah, 05 i think |
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cait1 |
yep |
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cait1 |
going to update to 7 when it's out |
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cait1 |
oleonard: i will try to remember to check on master - and file a bug if it's still not there |
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cait1 |
a good beginner patch |
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oleonard |
cait1: How about this in IntranetUserCSS: #memberentry_userid+fieldset { display: none; } |
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oleonard |
cait1: It's fixed in master and the latest 3.22.x |
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cait1 |
aah |
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cait1 |
just missed it then |
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cait1 |
hm why userid? |
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cait1 |
is plus the next? |
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oleonard |
It selects the next fieldset after #memberentry_userid |
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cait1 |
! |
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cait1 |
something new :) |
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cait1 |
works nicely |
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cait1 |
thx oleonard1 |
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cait1 |
oleonard++ |
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cait1 |
there is another small thing i did with jquery in the past |
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cait1 |
when you are on the details page |
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cait1 |
and try to hide alternate contact |
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cait1 |
you can hide the fields with the id #patron_alternative-contact - but the edit link after it remains |
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cait1 |
hm guess the same woudl work there |
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cait1 |
... and it does work |
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cait1 |
thx a lot |
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oleonard |
I wonder why BorrowerUnwantedField doesn't work for those flags |
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cait1 |
not sure |
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cait1 |
i checked the template, it looks like it ends just above it |
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oleonard |
Maybe just an oversight. |
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or thinking it shoudl not be hidden - but i don#t see why not |
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Joubu |
oleonard: I have just used the less-watch tools (very useful btw!) and it created mixins.css and responsive.css |
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Joubu |
does that means we could remove the less files for these 2 ones? |
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Joubu |
and print.css, right-to-left.css have been updated, it could come a diff in the versions used, or a divergence between the css and the less files |
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Joubu |
from* |
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oleonard |
Joubu: You're asking should we remove mixins.less and responsive.less? |
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Joubu |
yes |
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Joubu |
actually no, I do not care :) Just to make sure they are not used |
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Joubu |
I think I have already asked you |
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oleonard |
No, because when Less processes opac.less it imports mixins.less and responsive.less |
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Joubu |
ha yes, that was your answer :) |
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oleonard |
The configuration should probably be modified so that mixins.css and responsive.css are not generated |
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oleonard |
the batch modification template includes markup for a job progress bar, but it never appears. I wonder it is supposed to. |
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oleonard |
Sorry, no, the batch deletion template. |
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Joubu |
maybe move the imports in an import dir, than start less-watch-compiler with less/*.less |
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Joubu |
if it accepts a list of files instead of a dir |
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Joubu |
oleonard: no the progress bar is not implemented for this tool |
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reiveune |
bye |
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oleonard |
Okay, so it's safe to remove the progressbar markup and js |
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jim_ |
hello |
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jim_ |
any one here |
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oleonard |
Hi jim_ |
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jim_ |
Hi leo |
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jim_ |
Can you tell me can Koha work on LAN? |
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oleonard |
Koha is like any web site. It can be accessed anywhere you want it to be, depending on your network setup. |
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jim_ |
i see |
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jim_ |
So will it work on LAN |
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jim_ |
without internet |
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* Dyrcona |
has a community-related question. |
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Dyrcona |
How is the Kaitiaki chosen/determined? |
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Dyrcona |
The only reference on the web that I can find returns a 404. |
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Dyrcona |
Ok, well, the reference from wikipedia. |
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oleonard |
Dyrcona: We don't have a procedure for it anymore. There hasn't been one for ages. |
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Dyrcona |
oleonard: Thanks. I was looking at some pages about the Horowhenua Library Trust Koha Committee and wondered about it. |
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Dyrcona |
I think this page could may be use an update: https://koha-community.org/abo[…]ect-organization/ |
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Dyrcona |
But I really don't know. |
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oleonard |
Bye all |
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waves |
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* cait |
waves |
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waves |
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kchris |
Does anyone have suggestions starting to get family with the Koha codebase and programming for Koha? I finally have Koha in a development environment working with git. |
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Dyrcona |
kchris: Are you already familiar with Perl? |
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kchris |
No. More familiar with Java and a little Python. |
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kchris |
Dyrcona: Would you recommend I start by getting more familiar with PERL, or the Template Toolkit? |
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Dyrcona |
kchris: Well, if you look into Template Toolkit, you might get more familiar with Perl along the way. |
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Dyrcona |
It helps to be proficient with Perl, but you don't need to be an expert. |
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Dyrcona |
By proficient, I mean comfortable with reading and writing programs in the language. |
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Dyrcona |
But that's about as much advice as I could give, since I don't really work on or with koha. |
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Dyrcona |
I work on another, similar project, and I check on the koha code now and then. |
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kchris |
Okay, thanks for the advice. |
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kidclamp |
template toolkit is a good place to start and then dipping into the perl kcrhis |
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kidclamp |
I really recommend doing as many sign offs as possible as a good method of learning, it makes you look at the front and back end and start to think about how they are wokring together |
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kchris |
kidclamp: thanks for the pointers. I will keep on the sign offs. |
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Dyrcona |
Yeah, reviewing patches is probably better than just trying to dive into code head first. |
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kidclamp |
sign offs are also a good way to garner karma and goodwill :D |
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cait |
no luck installing koha on ubuntu 16.05 |
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bag |
master? |
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cait |
i am still running into 'using a password on command line interface can be insecure' |
23:50 |
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cait |
yep |
23:51 |
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bag |
git install? |
23:51 |
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cait |
yes |
23:51 |
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cait |
but shouldn't matter |
23:51 |
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cait |
it's the web installer |
23:51 |
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cait |
and the new mysql in ubuntu |
23:51 |
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bag |
hmmm… I haven’t seen that message before |
23:52 |
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cait |
it won't let you get beyond step 3 :( |
23:52 |
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bag |
plack? |
23:52 |
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cait |
yeah i though bug 16402 would fix it |
23:52 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=16402 critical, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Stable , DB structure cannot be loaded in MySQL 5.7 |
23:52 |
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cait |
no plack |
23:52 |
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cait |
not related to plack :) |
23:54 |
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eythian |
so, the package mysql tools may need to be tweaked to work with newer mysql not permitting passwords on the command line |
23:54 |
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cait |
maybe |
23:54 |
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eythian |
I don't know for sure if that's a thing or not, but it possibly is |
23:54 |
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cait |
but i am not using packages |
23:54 |
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eythian |
ah |
23:55 |
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cait |
i am just trying to run the good old web isntaller |
23:55 |
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cait |
and it failes when suppsoed to create the tables |
23:55 |
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cait |
the issue seems to be kohastructure.sql is my guess |
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23:55 |
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eythian |
then that may be a warning and not an error |
23:56 |
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eythian |
though I'm surprised you see it in the web installer, unless it invokes mysql directly to do things. |
23:56 |
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eythian |
perhaps I'll have a stab at that in Berlin if no one beats me to it :) |
23:56 |
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cait |
see the bug above |
23:56 |
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cait |
woudl be good, but until someone fixes this... this qa is out of order |
23:56 |
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cait |
and that's nto really practical |
23:57 |
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bag |
heya eythian |
23:57 |
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eythian |
hi bag |
23:58 |
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cait |
it lookslike it added the table still - but i can't load sample data |
23:58 |
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eythian |
cait: so I've spent the past several days in Leipzig.I have to say it's a nice to be back in a country now where I can read the signs. I didn't realise that'd be a thing coming back here. |
23:58 |
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cait |
? |
23:59 |
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eythian |
well, I can't read them in Germany. I can in the Netherlands. It surprised me. |
23:59 |
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eythian |
I didn't realise i was translating so well automatically. |
23:59 |
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eythian |
I also kept answering people asking me things in German in Dutch. |
23:59 |
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eythian |
That got annoying. |
23:59 |
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cait |
hehe |