IRC log for #koha, 2016-03-03

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00:25 BobB_ rangi about?
00:25 bag hi BobB_
00:26 BobB_ hi bag
00:26 BobB_ did you get my last email re fundraising?
00:26 bag recent?
00:26 bag hey BobB_ I’m going to PM you
00:26 BobB_ I think I should put that doc up on wiki and the list
00:26 bag one sec
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01:32 bag I need a pacific northwest developer to be around :)  I’ll take them to lunch whenver they want :)
01:32 bag well a portland oregon developer
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01:34 bag heya kathryn
01:34 wahanui rumour has it kathryn is on the left of https://lh4.googleusercontent.[…]s720/ROSS9901.JPG
01:34 kathryn hi bag :)
01:34 bag :)
01:35 bag tell thatcher I said Happy Birthday when you see him
01:40 kathryn aha! thanks for the tip!
01:54 wizzyrea happy birthday bag
01:54 bag :D love it
01:58 bag bug 14306
01:58 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=14306 enhancement, P5 - low, ---,, Signed Off , Show URL from MARC21 field 555$u in basket and detail
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03:22 bag night night
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03:53 mtompset Greetings, #koha.
03:54 mtompset @later tell bag bug 12426 is rebased, but I accidentally clipped Marcel's sign offs.
03:54 huginn mtompset: The operation succeeded.
04:18 mtompset @later tell bag bug 12803 is rebased, however I did not run full tests on it. It is code identical except for use statements in HoldsQueue.t, which I tested.
04:18 huginn mtompset: The operation succeeded.
04:36 mtompset @later tell bag bug 14649 is rebased. I meticulously compare patches before and after my rebase to ensure code identical, except where fixes required.
04:36 huginn mtompset: The operation succeeded.
05:47 mtompset Have a good day (24 hour period), #koha.
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07:20 Joubu hello #koha
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07:21 drojf morning #koha
07:22 drojf @later tell pianohacker added the youtube followup we talked about
07:22 huginn drojf: The operation succeeded.
07:24 Joubu drojf: hi!
07:24 Joubu drojf: what kind of followup?
07:24 Joubu I had to install the module, but not sure it should be mandatory
07:24 drojf Joubu: for the WWW:Youtube::Download module breaking detail view
07:24 drojf exactly
07:25 drojf i changed that to a require when syspref is enabled
07:25 drojf bug 14168
07:25 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=14168 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, mirko, Pushed to Master , enhance streaming cataloging to include youtube
07:26 drojf pianohacker said he'd QA, but if you want to, i think nobody will be angry ;)
07:26 Joubu hum, we need to implement something more robust for this kind of deps
07:26 drojf what are you thinking of?
07:26 Joubu moving use to require makes the modules not mandatory. It won't fail on compiling
07:27 Joubu but it will if the pref is on and this code is called
07:27 Joubu it's a bit hidden
07:28 drojf yes, but that is kind of expected, isn't it?
07:28 * Joubu should drink tea before discuss on #koha
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07:29 drojf more robust would be to have the module in wheezy, or on our repo :) but it's not really an important part of the system
07:29 Joubu it's the same issue we had for the Norwegian patron module, and we used can_load
07:32 drojf how is that different from a user perspective? i only see prevention of the error if that works at the admin level. like, if the module is not there, you can't enable it?
07:37 drojf i will check what was done with the norwegian patron module
07:39 * cait waves and runs off
07:45 drojf ah it does kind of what i said!? if !can_load the syspref is set to undef
07:47 drojf hm i think i should have a coffee :D
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07:50 alex_a bonjour
07:50 wahanui kia ora, alex_a
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07:50 reiveune hello
07:50 wahanui kia ora, reiveune
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08:05 * magnuse waves
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08:11 gaetan_B hello
08:11 wahanui hello, gaetan_B
08:11 Joubu drojf: yes, I don't have a good solution actually. I did not understand that the module was not available in Wheezy. Actually the plan would be to add a FIXME to set the module as required when we will abandon Wheezy support
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08:26 cait morning #koha
08:44 Joubu @later tell bag: patches from bugs 15548, 15635, , 15632, 15084 have been rebased. About 14889, only the *last* patch should be pushed
08:44 huginn Joubu: The operation succeeded.
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08:49 marcelr hi #koha
08:51 cait morning marcelr :)
08:53 marcelr hi cait
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09:19 LibraryClaire morning #koha
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10:14 Joubu @later tell tcohen do you know what Jenkins did not relaunch the tests on D7? (last build from Feb 18)
10:14 huginn Joubu: The operation succeeded.
10:14 Joubu @later tell tcohen do you know why Jenkins did not relaunch the tests on D7? (last build from Feb 18)
10:14 huginn Joubu: The operation succeeded.
10:17 nlegrand_ Hey #koha.
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11:05 drojf 4 places left for the bibframe workshop in rome
11:05 drojf none for marcedit
11:07 cait oh
11:07 cait are they in parallel?
11:15 drojf no
11:15 drojf i'll do both. or sell the ticket for marcedit on ebay :P
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12:20 drojf Joubu: bug 15341 is supposed to be a performance gain for plack, but performance loss for non-plack?
12:20 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=15341 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Needs Signoff , Performance - Retrieve all sysprefs at once
12:21 Joubu yes
12:24 drojf but it is not if the syspref cache is enabled on non-plack? so its not a regression for non-plack?
12:24 drojf just trying to understand the situation :)
12:28 Joubu I have not tried actually, I have not compared the gain/lost without Plack
12:28 drojf there was one comment that said it was almost the same
12:28 Joubu I'd say it depends on the page
12:28 drojf "With syspref cache enabled, the difference is negglible (0.36 patched, 0.37 sec unpatched)"
12:29 drojf ok
12:29 Joubu I suppose some pages fetch more prefs than others
12:30 drojf i will try to test with a package in the next days and see what results i get
12:31 drojf it should work with the packages-plack, right?
12:34 nlegrand ha :)
12:34 nlegrand stats just changed a bit on ^^
12:34 Joubu yep, you will just need not to disable the pref cache (in the psgi file)
12:35 nlegrand someone just double the highest amount of biblio :)
12:35 magnuse nlegrand: someone = you ?
12:35 nlegrand magnuse: mayyyyy beeeeeeeee
12:36 nlegrand magnuse: you know it's all anonymous and such ^^
12:36 magnuse druthb!
12:36 wahanui She's really more trouble than she's worth, you know?
12:37 magnuse nlegrand: ah yes, of course
12:37 druthb magnuse!
12:37 wahanui magnuse is a Norwegian giant.
12:37 nlegrand magnuse: but yes, the BULAC now has a more modern koha and is participating to hea ^^
12:39 magnuse cool!
12:39 magnuse i should encourage my customers to do that too
12:39 nlegrand at least ^^
12:39 magnuse or to let me do it for them
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12:49 magnuse nlegrand: i guess the greatest news is that you upgraded - congrats! didn't you have a ton of local customizations?
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12:51 nlegrand magnuse: did, still have, but I reduced it a lot, so the next upgrade won't be as painful :)
12:52 cait hm why is there a 4.08 version in hea?
12:52 cait system preferences
12:52 wahanui system preferences is[…]ystem_Preferences
12:52 drojf koha 4.08?
12:53 nlegrand magnuse: we're on 3.20 now, hope to reupgrade later this year :)
12:53 cait just looking around hea... and yep
12:53 cait nlegrand: congrats!
12:53 nlegrand cait: I wondered, maybe it's someone secret project? ^^
12:53 nlegrand cait: thanks ^^
12:54 drojf maybe the fork cherrypicked hea :P
12:55 nlegrand There is a new fork? I had the eyes so much on my upgrade stuff I didn't quite followed the news :)
12:55 drojf its an old fork
12:55 nlegrand Ho that one :).
12:55 drojf you dont want to know
12:55 drojf yep
13:04 Joubu It may be test data
13:06 jcamins cait: LLEK migration.
13:11 Joubu @later tell tcohen piiiingggg!!!!
13:11 huginn Joubu: The operation succeeded.
13:11 Joubu :)
13:11 Joubu drojf: just found something exiting :)
13:12 Joubu drojf: If I remove C4::Context->clear_syspref_cache(); in the psgi file, the processing time is divided per 2!
13:12 drojf :O
13:12 Joubu but... it might introduce regressions
13:13 drojf i will try to test, but probably no time before the weekend
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13:14 drojf i built a package of master+patch if anyone wants to play with that
13:14 jcamins Joubu: but you also have to restart the server when you update the sysprefs, don't you?
13:15 Joubu jcamins: or update the cache?
13:16 Joubu Actually I don't understand how that could divide per 2, but just retested to be sure and it does
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13:25 jcamins Joubu: when I added the clear_syspref_cache call to my psgi file, it was because the cache was stored in thread memory.
13:31 Joubu jcamins: yes and it is still the case, isn't it?
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13:32 jcamins Joubu: I believe so. Which is why updating the cache might be problematic.
13:36 Joubu jcamins: in which case?
13:39 jcamins Joubu: if you change the syspref in one thread, it won't be seen in another.
13:43 tcohen morning
13:46 magnuse that was quick
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13:47 Joubu jcamins: then we could use memcache?
13:48 jcamins Joubu: that would make sense to me. Or fastmmap.
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13:52 tcohen hi Joubu
13:53 Joubu Hi Tomas
13:56 tcohen @seen mtompset
13:56 huginn tcohen: mtompset was last seen in #koha 8 hours, 9 minutes, and 10 seconds ago: <mtompset> Have a good day (24 hour period), #koha.
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14:30 geek_cl hi  #koha, i have this error, the item is not show on cataloging :
14:30 geek_cl the barcode exist on DB
14:30 geek_cl "1 result(s) found in catalog"
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15:16 hector fredericd: Hi frederic
15:16 hector tcohen: Hi Tomas
15:18 tcohen hi hector
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16:28 nengard morning all
16:32 hector morning nengard
16:50 bag morning
16:51 bag @mtompset++
16:51 huginn bag: downloading the Perl source
16:52 bag stilly bag
16:52 bag silly bag
16:52 bag mtompset++
16:52 bag I got your messages - I will review those today and hopefully push them!  Thanks for the extra work
16:53 gaetan_B bye
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17:12 tcohen morning bag
17:12 bag morning tcohen
17:12 bag @wunder pdx
17:12 huginn bag: The current temperature in Mikeshouse Cully, Portland, Oregon is 13.2°C (9:12 AM PST on March 03, 2016). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 76%. Dew Point: 9.0°C. Pressure: 30.03 in 1017 hPa (Rising).
17:13 tcohen @wunder cordoba, argentina
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17:13 huginn tcohen: The current temperature in Bo Altos de San Martin - NW, Cordoba city, Cordoba City, Argentina is 32.3°C (2:11 PM ART on March 03, 2016). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 43%. Dew Point: 18.0°C. Pressure: 30.04 in 1017 hPa (Falling).
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17:21 Joubu Bug 15970, bug 15341, bug 11998 and bug 15873 may have a good impact on perf if tested all together. I am a bit tired today to start new benchmarks, but it looks promising. Have a look please!
17:21 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=15970 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Needs Signoff , Plack should not clear syspref cache
17:21 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=15341 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Needs Signoff , Performance - Retrieve all sysprefs at once
17:21 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=11998 major, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Needs Signoff , Syspref caching issues
17:21 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=15873 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, amitddng135, ASSIGNED , Restrict patron to hold those items which already checked-out by them.
17:30 bag yes Joubu - we’ll look at those
17:31 bag :D
17:31 tcohen Joubu: hahahah
17:31 tcohen "Forget them, unless you know how to fix them"
17:32 Joubu tcohen: from the perl module the errors are raised:
17:32 Joubu 34     # avoid possible typo warnings
17:32 Joubu 35     %{"$package\::FIELDS"} = () unless %{"$package\::FIELDS"};
17:32 Joubu so I think we can forget them :)
17:32 tcohen WTF
17:33 Joubu heh, don't know, but don't look very important
17:33 Joubu so, please test!!
17:34 Joubu really, I have noticed nice perf gains
17:34 Joubu see you #koha!
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18:06 tcohen Joubu++
18:21 bag anybody up for testing something?  https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]_bug.cgi?id=14277
18:21 huginn Bug 14277: enhancement, P5 - low, ---, barton, Needs Signoff , Search index 'lex' does not honor MARC indicator "ind1"
18:21 bag barton is looking for a sign-off on that one :)
19:02 * magnuse upgrades all the customers
19:03 magnuse it's been a while since i said it, but packages++
19:03 magnuse @karma packages
19:03 huginn magnuse: Karma for "packages" has been increased 4 times and decreased 0 times for a total karma of 4.
19:06 druthb magnuse++
19:07 magnuse huh?
19:08 druthb i need a reason to plus my favorite Norwegian giant?
19:08 magnuse nah, you are welcome to do that any time you so desire :-)
19:09 druthb okie
19:09 magnuse you have my permission ;-)
19:09 bag magnuse++
19:11 magnuse huh?
19:12 * magnuse upgrades the production server from wheezy to jessie
19:16 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: DBRev update Bug 14168 - enhance streaming cataloging to include youtube <[…]658ce25d462687164> / Bug 14168: (followup) atomic update for syspref <[…]c4ca331e2ba4e6b8b> / Bug 14168: (followup) require WWW::YouTube::Download only when syspref enabled <http://g
19:19 magnuse now we can catalogue cat videos on youtube? :-)
19:21 * magnuse gets cracking
19:23 bag you know it
19:25 magnuse norwegian television is taken over by the biathlon world championships anyway...
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19:52 hector hi barton
19:52 hector bug 14277 signed-off
19:52 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=14277 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, barton, Signed Off , Search index 'lex' does not honor MARC indicator "ind1"
19:52 pianohacker hector++
19:52 pianohacker drojf++
19:54 kidclamp hector++
19:56 bag awesome!!!
19:56 wahanui That'll be $1 for the awesome jar, bag
19:56 bag hector++
19:56 eythian liw: you remember those speakers I got off you? They lived in a cupboard for ages, now I'm using the crap out of them on my laptop.
19:58 barton hector++
19:59 hector Bye #koha
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20:01 liw eythian, I have no recollection of that at this time, and you can't prove anything, and it's not my fault!
20:01 eythian liw: battery powered ones that clip together into an egg shape.
20:03 magnuse hector++
20:04 liw eythian, I refuse to acknowledge the possibility that I might ever have owned any computer related hardware! :)
20:05 liw eythian, but I'm glad they still work :)
20:05 eythian I like how you're using IRC from your abacus, really 🙂
20:06 eythian Yeah, since I moved I've had no TV, and laptop speakers are universally rubbish.
20:07 magnuse abaIRC
20:09 liw I haven't had a TV for over a decade. I have a projector, a pair of cheap active speakers, and a laptop :)
20:09 liw meanwhile, _so_ many pictures of backups:[…]-datacenter-part/
20:13 eythian I liked having a TV, though it rarely got broadcast. Occasionally used it for radio.
20:16 rangi hmm how do we enable memcached caching in Koha these days?
20:19 magnuse rangi: in the apache site config, i think
20:19 magnuse SetEnv MEMCACHED_SERVERS ""
20:19 magnuse SetEnv MEMCACHED_NAMESPACE "koha_westerdals"
20:19 rangi ta
20:20 magnuse s/westerdals/something else/, of course
20:20 rangi and that works with plack?
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20:24 magnuse i *think* so, but i have not looked deeply into that
20:25 rangi right
20:25 eythian There's a plack environment somewhere.
20:25 magnuse i have had a customer running on plack for months now, with memcached enabled in the apache config, and we have not run into any problems
20:25 eythian It won't pick it up from Apache
20:25 magnuse ah, okay
20:26 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 12803 [QA Followup] - Allow holiday caching to be disabled for testing purposes <[…]e55830b8ae90cd7c3> / Bug 12803 - Add ability to skip closed libraries when generating the holds queue <[…]f94399250c17e1884> / Bug 12426: [QA Follow-up] Clear to_address t
20:27 eythian It was in my mind to make a proper solution, but then I left, and my problems have got so much more complicated 🙂
20:28 rangi @later tell joubu how do enable memcached caching for plack?
20:28 huginn rangi: The operation succeeded.
20:36 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 14889: Fix typo in Koha/ <[…]339d1ff7a1631d794> / DBRev Bug 12803 - Add ability to skip closed libraries when generating <[…]ddec3c92df5708112>
20:46 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 15084: Fix conflict with bug 15446 (type vs _type) <[…]a12d171280a8b80ea> / Bug 15084 [QA Followup] - Clean up test currencies after unit tests <[…]76f491421c1cee686> / Bug 15084: DBIx::Class - Shema changes <
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21:01 reiveune bye
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21:16 jcamins rangi: no. You use $ENV{'MEMCACHED_SERVERS'} in your psgi file.
21:16 jcamins It's kind of an issue.
21:16 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: DBRev Bug 15084 - Move the currency related code to <[…]e33970b60753cfc06>
21:16 rangi ahh right thanks jcamins
21:17 rangi you have to define it in 2 places currently eh
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21:26 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 15632 [QA Followup] - Change method type to _type for bug 15446 <[…]f37df732e1ba08e5b> / Bug 15632 [QA Followup] - Undo changes needed for Bug 13618 which was reverted <[…]517278b6b34d3b42d> / Bug 15632 [QA Followup] - Get rid of use of uninitialized valu
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21:56 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 15548 [QA Followup] - More new uses of Koha::Borrower <[…]2a4e751bf0c649626> / Bug 15548 [QA Followup] - Catch a couple new Koha::Borrower uses <[…]67ed1c59fc8b12552> / Bug 15548: Move new patron related code to Patron* <
22:16 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 15871: Improve PerlCritic level for t/RecordProcessor.t <[…]2ebbef792450e91ff>
22:26 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 15755: Display default item type as "All" in circ rules <[…]bb69a048006994372> / Bug 15864 - SMS cellular providers link missing from administration sidebar menu <[…]48ec5e421026c835c> / Bug 15669: Add a test for GetModificationTemplates <http://git.koha-
22:33 bag cool jenkins is running again
22:36 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 15925 [Revised] Correct some markup issues with patron lists pages <[…]8c3f935ce87904677> / Bug 15940 - Remove unused JavaScript from authorities MARC subfield structure <[…]b04fb29de57c53bec>
22:57 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 15950: Use Font Awesome icons for acquisitions basket close confirmation <[…]c7f93b721405d7739> / Bug 15951: Use Font Awesome icons for acquisitions order cancellation confirmation <[…]f1072f45349f3fa4a> / Bug 15959: Use Font Awesome icons for attach item
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