Time Nick Message 00:25 BobB_ rangi about? 00:25 bag hi BobB_ 00:26 BobB_ hi bag 00:26 BobB_ did you get my last email re fundraising? 00:26 bag recent? 00:26 bag hey BobB_ I’m going to PM you 00:26 BobB_ I think I should put that doc up on wiki and the list 00:26 bag one sec 01:32 bag I need a pacific northwest developer to be around :) I’ll take them to lunch whenver they want :) 01:32 bag well a portland oregon developer 01:34 bag heya kathryn 01:34 wahanui rumour has it kathryn is on the left of https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-ofqX3S0SPDo/UGIT5sSfE6I/AAAAAAAATng/bQYU5Chf6Qc/s720/ROSS9901.JPG 01:34 kathryn hi bag :) 01:34 bag :) 01:35 bag tell thatcher I said Happy Birthday when you see him 01:40 kathryn aha! thanks for the tip! 01:54 wizzyrea happy birthday bag 01:54 bag :D love it 01:58 bag bug 14306 01:58 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=14306 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, m.de.rooy, Signed Off , Show URL from MARC21 field 555$u in basket and detail 03:22 bag night night 03:53 mtompset Greetings, #koha. 03:54 mtompset @later tell bag bug 12426 is rebased, but I accidentally clipped Marcel's sign offs. 03:54 huginn mtompset: The operation succeeded. 04:18 mtompset @later tell bag bug 12803 is rebased, however I did not run full tests on it. It is code identical except for use statements in HoldsQueue.t, which I tested. 04:18 huginn mtompset: The operation succeeded. 04:36 mtompset @later tell bag bug 14649 is rebased. I meticulously compare patches before and after my rebase to ensure code identical, except where fixes required. 04:36 huginn mtompset: The operation succeeded. 05:47 mtompset Have a good day (24 hour period), #koha. 07:20 Joubu hello #koha 07:21 drojf morning #koha 07:22 drojf @later tell pianohacker added the youtube followup we talked about 07:22 huginn drojf: The operation succeeded. 07:24 Joubu drojf: hi! 07:24 Joubu drojf: what kind of followup? 07:24 Joubu I had to install the module, but not sure it should be mandatory 07:24 drojf Joubu: for the WWW:Youtube::Download module breaking detail view 07:24 drojf exactly 07:25 drojf i changed that to a require when syspref is enabled 07:25 drojf bug 14168 07:25 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=14168 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, mirko, Pushed to Master , enhance streaming cataloging to include youtube 07:26 drojf pianohacker said he'd QA, but if you want to, i think nobody will be angry ;) 07:26 Joubu hum, we need to implement something more robust for this kind of deps 07:26 drojf what are you thinking of? 07:26 Joubu moving use to require makes the modules not mandatory. It won't fail on compiling 07:27 Joubu but it will if the pref is on and this code is called 07:27 Joubu it's a bit hidden 07:28 drojf yes, but that is kind of expected, isn't it? 07:28 * Joubu should drink tea before discuss on #koha 07:29 drojf more robust would be to have the module in wheezy, or on our repo :) but it's not really an important part of the system 07:29 Joubu it's the same issue we had for the Norwegian patron module, and we used can_load 07:32 drojf how is that different from a user perspective? i only see prevention of the error if that works at the admin level. like, if the module is not there, you can't enable it? 07:37 drojf i will check what was done with the norwegian patron module 07:39 * cait waves and runs off 07:45 drojf ah it does kind of what i said!? if !can_load the syspref is set to undef 07:47 drojf hm i think i should have a coffee :D 07:50 alex_a bonjour 07:50 wahanui kia ora, alex_a 07:50 reiveune hello 07:50 wahanui kia ora, reiveune 08:05 * magnuse waves 08:11 gaetan_B hello 08:11 wahanui hello, gaetan_B 08:11 Joubu drojf: yes, I don't have a good solution actually. I did not understand that the module was not available in Wheezy. Actually the plan would be to add a FIXME to set the module as required when we will abandon Wheezy support 08:26 cait morning #koha 08:44 Joubu @later tell bag: patches from bugs 15548, 15635, , 15632, 15084 have been rebased. About 14889, only the *last* patch should be pushed 08:44 huginn Joubu: The operation succeeded. 08:49 marcelr hi #koha 08:51 cait morning marcelr :) 08:53 marcelr hi cait 09:19 LibraryClaire morning #koha 10:14 Joubu @later tell tcohen do you know what Jenkins did not relaunch the tests on D7? (last build from Feb 18) 10:14 huginn Joubu: The operation succeeded. 10:14 Joubu @later tell tcohen do you know why Jenkins did not relaunch the tests on D7? (last build from Feb 18) 10:14 huginn Joubu: The operation succeeded. 10:17 nlegrand_ Hey #koha. 11:05 drojf 4 places left for the bibframe workshop in rome 11:05 drojf none for marcedit 11:07 cait oh 11:07 cait are they in parallel? 11:15 drojf no 11:15 drojf i'll do both. or sell the ticket for marcedit on ebay :P 12:20 drojf Joubu: bug 15341 is supposed to be a performance gain for plack, but performance loss for non-plack? 12:20 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=15341 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Needs Signoff , Performance - Retrieve all sysprefs at once 12:21 Joubu yes 12:24 drojf but it is not if the syspref cache is enabled on non-plack? so its not a regression for non-plack? 12:24 drojf just trying to understand the situation :) 12:28 Joubu I have not tried actually, I have not compared the gain/lost without Plack 12:28 drojf there was one comment that said it was almost the same 12:28 Joubu I'd say it depends on the page 12:28 drojf "With syspref cache enabled, the difference is negglible (0.36 patched, 0.37 sec unpatched)" 12:29 drojf ok 12:29 Joubu I suppose some pages fetch more prefs than others 12:30 drojf i will try to test with a package in the next days and see what results i get 12:31 drojf it should work with the packages-plack, right? 12:34 nlegrand ha :) 12:34 nlegrand stats just changed a bit on http://hea.koha-community.org/ ^^ 12:34 Joubu yep, you will just need not to disable the pref cache (in the psgi file) 12:35 nlegrand someone just double the highest amount of biblio :) 12:35 magnuse nlegrand: someone = you ? 12:35 nlegrand magnuse: mayyyyy beeeeeeeee 12:36 nlegrand magnuse: you know it's all anonymous and such ^^ 12:36 magnuse druthb! 12:36 wahanui She's really more trouble than she's worth, you know? 12:37 magnuse nlegrand: ah yes, of course 12:37 druthb magnuse! 12:37 wahanui magnuse is a Norwegian giant. 12:37 nlegrand magnuse: but yes, the BULAC now has a more modern koha and is participating to hea ^^ 12:39 magnuse cool! 12:39 magnuse i should encourage my customers to do that too 12:39 nlegrand at least ^^ 12:39 magnuse or to let me do it for them 12:49 magnuse nlegrand: i guess the greatest news is that you upgraded - congrats! didn't you have a ton of local customizations? 12:51 nlegrand magnuse: did, still have, but I reduced it a lot, so the next upgrade won't be as painful :) 12:52 cait hm why is there a 4.08 version in hea? 12:52 cait system preferences 12:52 wahanui system preferences is http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/System_Preferences 12:52 drojf koha 4.08? 12:53 nlegrand magnuse: we're on 3.20 now, hope to reupgrade later this year :) 12:53 cait just looking around hea... and yep 12:53 cait nlegrand: congrats! 12:53 nlegrand cait: I wondered, maybe it's someone secret project? ^^ 12:53 nlegrand cait: thanks ^^ 12:54 drojf maybe the fork cherrypicked hea :P 12:55 nlegrand There is a new fork? I had the eyes so much on my upgrade stuff I didn't quite followed the news :) 12:55 drojf its an old fork 12:55 nlegrand Ho that one :). 12:55 drojf you dont want to know 12:55 drojf yep 13:04 Joubu It may be test data 13:06 jcamins cait: LLEK migration. 13:11 Joubu @later tell tcohen piiiingggg!!!! 13:11 huginn Joubu: The operation succeeded. 13:11 Joubu :) 13:11 Joubu drojf: just found something exiting :) 13:12 Joubu drojf: If I remove C4::Context->clear_syspref_cache(); in the psgi file, the processing time is divided per 2! 13:12 drojf :O 13:12 Joubu but... it might introduce regressions 13:13 drojf i will try to test, but probably no time before the weekend 13:14 drojf i built a package of master+patch if anyone wants to play with that 13:14 jcamins Joubu: but you also have to restart the server when you update the sysprefs, don't you? 13:15 Joubu jcamins: or update the cache? 13:16 Joubu Actually I don't understand how that could divide per 2, but just retested to be sure and it does 13:25 jcamins Joubu: when I added the clear_syspref_cache call to my psgi file, it was because the cache was stored in thread memory. 13:31 Joubu jcamins: yes and it is still the case, isn't it? 13:32 jcamins Joubu: I believe so. Which is why updating the cache might be problematic. 13:36 Joubu jcamins: in which case? 13:39 jcamins Joubu: if you change the syspref in one thread, it won't be seen in another. 13:43 tcohen morning 13:46 magnuse that was quick 13:47 Joubu jcamins: then we could use memcache? 13:48 jcamins Joubu: that would make sense to me. Or fastmmap. 13:52 tcohen hi Joubu 13:53 Joubu Hi Tomas 13:56 tcohen @seen mtompset 13:56 huginn tcohen: mtompset was last seen in #koha 8 hours, 9 minutes, and 10 seconds ago: <mtompset> Have a good day (24 hour period), #koha. 14:30 geek_cl hi #koha, i have this error, the item is not show on cataloging : http://pastebin.com/AVwVSfqa 14:30 geek_cl the barcode exist on DB 14:30 geek_cl "1 result(s) found in catalog" 15:16 hector fredericd: Hi frederic 15:16 hector tcohen: Hi Tomas 15:18 tcohen hi hector 16:28 nengard morning all 16:32 hector morning nengard 16:50 bag morning 16:51 bag @mtompset++ 16:51 huginn bag: downloading the Perl source 16:52 bag stilly bag 16:52 bag silly bag 16:52 bag mtompset++ 16:52 bag I got your messages - I will review those today and hopefully push them! Thanks for the extra work 16:53 gaetan_B bye 17:12 tcohen morning bag 17:12 bag morning tcohen 17:12 bag @wunder pdx 17:12 huginn bag: The current temperature in Mikeshouse Cully, Portland, Oregon is 13.2°C (9:12 AM PST on March 03, 2016). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 76%. Dew Point: 9.0°C. Pressure: 30.03 in 1017 hPa (Rising). 17:13 tcohen @wunder cordoba, argentina 17:13 huginn tcohen: The current temperature in Bo Altos de San Martin - NW, Cordoba city, Cordoba City, Argentina is 32.3°C (2:11 PM ART on March 03, 2016). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 43%. Dew Point: 18.0°C. Pressure: 30.04 in 1017 hPa (Falling). 17:21 Joubu Bug 15970, bug 15341, bug 11998 and bug 15873 may have a good impact on perf if tested all together. I am a bit tired today to start new benchmarks, but it looks promising. Have a look please! 17:21 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=15970 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Needs Signoff , Plack should not clear syspref cache 17:21 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=15341 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Needs Signoff , Performance - Retrieve all sysprefs at once 17:21 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11998 major, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Needs Signoff , Syspref caching issues 17:21 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=15873 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, amitddng135, ASSIGNED , Restrict patron to hold those items which already checked-out by them. 17:30 bag yes Joubu - we’ll look at those 17:31 bag :D 17:31 tcohen Joubu: hahahah 17:31 tcohen "Forget them, unless you know how to fix them" 17:32 Joubu tcohen: from the perl module the errors are raised: 17:32 Joubu 34 # avoid possible typo warnings 17:32 Joubu 35 %{"$package\::FIELDS"} = () unless %{"$package\::FIELDS"}; 17:32 Joubu so I think we can forget them :) 17:32 tcohen WTF 17:33 Joubu heh, don't know, but don't look very important 17:33 Joubu so, please test!! 17:34 Joubu really, I have noticed nice perf gains 17:34 Joubu see you #koha! 18:06 tcohen Joubu++ 18:21 bag anybody up for testing something? https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=14277 18:21 huginn 04Bug 14277: enhancement, P5 - low, ---, barton, Needs Signoff , Search index 'lex' does not honor MARC indicator "ind1" 18:21 bag barton is looking for a sign-off on that one :) 19:02 * magnuse upgrades all the customers 19:03 magnuse it's been a while since i said it, but packages++ 19:03 magnuse @karma packages 19:03 huginn magnuse: Karma for "packages" has been increased 4 times and decreased 0 times for a total karma of 4. 19:06 druthb magnuse++ 19:07 magnuse huh? 19:08 druthb i need a reason to plus my favorite Norwegian giant? 19:08 magnuse nah, you are welcome to do that any time you so desire :-) 19:09 druthb okie 19:09 magnuse you have my permission ;-) 19:09 bag magnuse++ 19:11 magnuse huh? 19:12 * magnuse upgrades the production server from wheezy to jessie 19:16 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: DBRev update Bug 14168 - enhance streaming cataloging to include youtube <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=256785f5db4ae2ad45de2b3658ce25d462687164> / Bug 14168: (followup) atomic update for syspref <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=3e896958153adcb0151d5cac4ca331e2ba4e6b8b> / Bug 14168: (followup) require WWW::YouTube::Download only when syspref enabled <http://g 19:19 magnuse now we can catalogue cat videos on youtube? :-) 19:21 * magnuse gets cracking 19:23 bag you know it 19:25 magnuse norwegian television is taken over by the biathlon world championships anyway... 19:52 hector hi barton 19:52 hector bug 14277 signed-off 19:52 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=14277 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, barton, Signed Off , Search index 'lex' does not honor MARC indicator "ind1" 19:52 pianohacker hector++ 19:52 pianohacker drojf++ 19:54 kidclamp hector++ 19:56 bag awesome!!! 19:56 wahanui That'll be $1 for the awesome jar, bag 19:56 bag hector++ 19:56 eythian liw: you remember those speakers I got off you? They lived in a cupboard for ages, now I'm using the crap out of them on my laptop. 19:58 barton hector++ 19:59 hector Bye #koha 20:01 liw eythian, I have no recollection of that at this time, and you can't prove anything, and it's not my fault! 20:01 eythian liw: battery powered ones that clip together into an egg shape. 20:03 magnuse hector++ 20:04 liw eythian, I refuse to acknowledge the possibility that I might ever have owned any computer related hardware! :) 20:05 liw eythian, but I'm glad they still work :) 20:05 eythian I like how you're using IRC from your abacus, really 🙂 20:06 eythian Yeah, since I moved I've had no TV, and laptop speakers are universally rubbish. 20:07 magnuse abaIRC 20:09 liw I haven't had a TV for over a decade. I have a projector, a pair of cheap active speakers, and a laptop :) 20:09 liw meanwhile, _so_ many pictures of backups: https://www.backblaze.com/blog/day-life-datacenter-part/ 20:13 eythian I liked having a TV, though it rarely got broadcast. Occasionally used it for radio. 20:16 rangi hmm how do we enable memcached caching in Koha these days? 20:19 magnuse rangi: in the apache site config, i think 20:19 magnuse SetEnv MEMCACHED_SERVERS "127.0.0.1:11211" 20:19 magnuse SetEnv MEMCACHED_NAMESPACE "koha_westerdals" 20:19 rangi ta 20:20 magnuse s/westerdals/something else/, of course 20:20 rangi and that works with plack? 20:24 magnuse i *think* so, but i have not looked deeply into that 20:25 rangi right 20:25 eythian There's a plack environment somewhere. 20:25 magnuse i have had a customer running on plack for months now, with memcached enabled in the apache config, and we have not run into any problems 20:25 eythian It won't pick it up from Apache 20:25 magnuse ah, okay 20:26 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 12803 [QA Followup] - Allow holiday caching to be disabled for testing purposes <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=c0d7030b024d290780df133e55830b8ae90cd7c3> / Bug 12803 - Add ability to skip closed libraries when generating the holds queue <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=3c9d50d13457941d2569720f94399250c17e1884> / Bug 12426: [QA Follow-up] Clear to_address t 20:27 eythian It was in my mind to make a proper solution, but then I left, and my problems have got so much more complicated 🙂 20:28 rangi @later tell joubu how do enable memcached caching for plack? 20:28 huginn rangi: The operation succeeded. 20:36 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 14889: Fix typo in Koha/BiblioFrameworks.pm <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=676d1e53b30e59854b672b0339d1ff7a1631d794> / DBRev Bug 12803 - Add ability to skip closed libraries when generating <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=209531eae9c4612731ea1d1ddec3c92df5708112> 20:46 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 15084: Fix conflict with bug 15446 (type vs _type) <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=65c4694b7a4d0aba5fac055a12d171280a8b80ea> / Bug 15084 [QA Followup] - Clean up test currencies after unit tests <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=225fb60b40bf9893515930c76f491421c1cee686> / Bug 15084: DBIx::Class - Shema changes <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.g 21:01 reiveune bye 21:16 jcamins rangi: no. You use $ENV{'MEMCACHED_SERVERS'} in your psgi file. 21:16 jcamins It's kind of an issue. 21:16 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: DBRev Bug 15084 - Move the currency related code to <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=e88457a9fab442979a7422ce33970b60753cfc06> 21:16 rangi ahh right thanks jcamins 21:17 rangi you have to define it in 2 places currently eh 21:25 jcamins [off] Right now I'm watching a vendor demo. I work in healthcare. The vendor had never heard of HIPAA. We want support for SSO. They are going to implement SAML "next." 21:26 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 15632 [QA Followup] - Change method type to _type for bug 15446 <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=d53daa339212c025be637adf37df732e1ba08e5b> / Bug 15632 [QA Followup] - Undo changes needed for Bug 13618 which was reverted <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=55ad33ba2e5db1ef07862e0517278b6b34d3b42d> / Bug 15632 [QA Followup] - Get rid of use of uninitialized valu 21:27 jcamins [off] We want a service to make it easy to have non-developers write forms... and so far they haven't been able to find an example of anything that includes user input. I can't believe how brazen they are claiming to be relevant. 21:56 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 15548 [QA Followup] - More new uses of Koha::Borrower <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=77e1e7c4ef9ae5b811cd9692a4e751bf0c649626> / Bug 15548 [QA Followup] - Catch a couple new Koha::Borrower uses <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=ed882397da52b09be56e61567ed1c59fc8b12552> / Bug 15548: Move new patron related code to Patron* <http://git.koha-community.org/gitw 22:09 eythian [off] jcamins: they're supposed to take you out for dinner and golf. 22:16 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 15871: Improve PerlCritic level for t/RecordProcessor.t <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=7721a7b8d2883c2e864eb672ebbef792450e91ff> 22:26 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 15755: Display default item type as "All" in circ rules <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=6d854a167d2843ac2dac690bb69a048006994372> / Bug 15864 - SMS cellular providers link missing from administration sidebar menu <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=4eb0a1ad19e26d97111e43c48ec5e421026c835c> / Bug 15669: Add a test for GetModificationTemplates <http://git.koha- 22:33 bag cool jenkins is running again 22:36 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 15925 [Revised] Correct some markup issues with patron lists pages <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=f8647c1aaefbfb8ce83a0918c3f935ce87904677> / Bug 15940 - Remove unused JavaScript from authorities MARC subfield structure <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=3f70b4660bf57e854e6ef13b04fb29de57c53bec> 22:57 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 15950: Use Font Awesome icons for acquisitions basket close confirmation <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=de23e3f2fb1e5c376f29953c7f93b721405d7739> / Bug 15951: Use Font Awesome icons for acquisitions order cancellation confirmation <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=f43f6bd97ac595c3c528ba3f1072f45349f3fa4a> / Bug 15959: Use Font Awesome icons for attach item