IRC log for #koha, 2016-03-04

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00:55 Francesca hey
00:56 wizzyrea hey Francesca
00:56 wahanui rumour has it Francesca is a junior developer with koha (suprise)
00:58 wizzyrea Anybody have a thought as to why a prediction pattern would always start on a sunday
00:58 wizzyrea a weekly one
00:59 rangi is it due to the syspref that chooses the start of the week
00:59 rangi ?
01:00 wizzyrea I wondered that but I couldn't find any evidence to support that (but I'm still looking)
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01:02 wizzyrea empirically, changing it doesn't change the date computation.
01:03 wizzyrea it's quite odd, it skips what should be the next one
01:03 wizzyrea and goes straight on to the sunday after next
01:06 wizzyrea all of the weekly ones are like this, they all want to stick to sunday, no matter what the next issue publication date is
01:06 rangi weird
01:07 wizzyrea not quite weekly I guess, 51 issues a year
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01:23 kidclamp hrm..can everyone else save overdue-notice-status triggers on master?
01:25 wizzyrea (updating my test db now)
01:26 wizzyrea seems to work for me
01:27 kidclamp yeah, I am missing a column 'letternumber'
01:27 kidclamp thanks wizzyrea
01:29 wizzyrea nw
01:29 kidclamp not welcome? no worries
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01:33 * Francesca is allergy ridden
01:43 wizzyrea right, no worries :)
01:43 wizzyrea poor Francesca!
01:44 Francesca @wunder wlg
01:44 huginn Francesca: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 23.0°C (2:30 PM NZDT on March 04, 2016). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 53%. Dew Point: 13.0°C. Pressure: 30.27 in 1025 hPa (Steady).
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01:50 * Francesca waves at kathryn
01:50 kathryn hi francesca
01:51 Francesca how are you
01:51 kathryn tired from chasing a 1 year old! and you?
01:52 Francesca allergy and asthma ridden
01:53 Francesca and catching up on uni work
01:53 kathryn all the best!
01:53 Francesca was so out of it yesterday that i left my laptop on the bus
01:54 Francesca but i got it back thank god
01:54 Francesca thanks kathryn :)
01:57 wizzyrea ! so glad you got your lappy back
01:57 Francesca the bus driver who handed it in at the depo is a saint
01:58 Francesca as are all the people on the bus who left it!
02:01 wizzyrea too right!
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07:38 reiveune hello
07:40 * magnuse waves
07:46 Joubu hi
07:46 wahanui bonjour, Joubu
07:48 Joubu @later tell rangi same as CGI, you have to define $ENV{MEMCACHED_SERVERS} in your psgi file, see misc/plack/koha.psgi for an example
07:48 huginn Joubu: The operation succeeded.
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07:59 alex_a bonjour
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08:23 marcelr hi #koha
08:24 gaetan_B hello
08:42 magnuse gaetan_B:[…]-to-visit-norway/ :-)
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08:44 magnuse kia ora cait
08:44 gaetan_B magnuse: ah thanks :) i'm pretty convinced already actually!
08:45 gaetan_B i just saw that it will be new moon on the 9th, a very dark night is probably just what we need at this time of the year up in Tromsø!
08:54 gaetan_B Normania_eclair
08:55 cait hi magnuse :)
08:55 cait spending the day on trains, so will be on and off a lot
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09:05 LibraryClaire morning #koha
09:05 cait hi LibraryClaire
09:05 * LibraryClaire waves
09:10 ashimema morning #koha et al.
09:12 ashimema those pics are beautiful magnuse
09:12 magnuse gaetan_B: a clear sky is the most important thing, if you are thinking of the aurora
09:12 ashimema made me want to visit norway more than I already did
09:13 magnuse ashimema: :-) kohacon18 perhaps?
09:13 cait heh
09:13 ashimema that would be awesome
09:14 magnuse (i hope someone told the folks in dublin there is a rule about not having kohacon on the same continent two years in a row)
09:14 gaetan_B kohacon in Norway sounds like a very good idea!
09:14 magnuse and in northern norway in the middle of winter, perhaps?
09:16 magnuse OPL are saying they will go live on koha (+ other stuff) in september, so maybe they could be up for hosting it in a couple of years
09:16 ashimema interesting..
09:16 wahanui interesting is sometimes good and sometimes bad
09:16 cait cool
09:16 ashimema I didn't know that rule magnuse
09:17 magnuse well, it would be nice if the new building was ready, and noone knows when that will be, i think :-/
09:17 cait magnuse: i don't know if someone did :(
09:17 ashimema I'm pretty sure tey don't know
09:17 ashimema I'm pretty sure they don't know
09:17 magnuse is it written down somewhere? or is it just a tradition?
09:17 ashimema I'll tell them.. we were all looking forward to the prospect of it being somewhere so close here
09:20 ashimema I 'think' their idea was to get it into peoples minds early.. and actually host it in a couple of years time.. but who knows
09:22 cait looking for a source, but internet is slow
09:22 cait i tihk it's somewhere on the wiki
09:22 cait dublin would be great
09:22 cait just maybe not for next year i guess
09:22 cait sorry, wiki not loading - someone else to look for it?
09:23 ashimema The phrase on the KohaCon website is "and held (generally speaking) on a different continent every year."
09:23 magnuse ah, nice and vague :-)
09:23 ashimema not sure which page.. but it turns out InterLeaf did see it before they posted their proposal :)
09:32 cait could someone mark 14377 doesn't apply for me?
09:32 cait can't really load the page
09:32 cait fatal: sha1 information is lacking or useless (koha-tmpl/intranet-tmpl/prog/en/xs​lt/MARC21slim2intranetDetail.xsl).
09:32 magnuse i can do that
09:33 cait thx
09:34 magnuse done
09:34 cait it's the suppressed in opac one (in case i typoed the bug number again)
09:35 magnuse that's the one
09:35 magnuse Bug 14377 - Indicate that a record is suppressed in staff client
09:35 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=14377 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, wsalesky, Patch doesn't apply , Indicate that a record is suppressed in staff client
09:35 cait thx!
09:35 cait trying to make a few branches on the laptop before internet goes down
09:36 magnuse clever!
09:36 * ashimema hugs cait
09:36 cait heh thx :)
09:37 cait CONFLICT (content): Merge conflict in t/db_dependent/Budgets.t
09:37 cait Auto-merging C4/
09:37 cait for bug 11371
09:37 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=11371 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, bouzid.fergani, Signed Off , Add a new report : Orders by budget
09:37 magnuse cait++
09:37 magnuse want me to mark it as does not apply?
09:38 cait hm looking at the patch file
09:38 cait might be easy to fix
09:40 Joubu 14377 is fine for me, just an easy conflict on C4/
09:44 cait hm strange
09:45 cait my master should be current
09:45 cait any reason why this might happen?
09:46 cait bug 11371 is the last commit for me
09:46 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=11371 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, bouzid.fergani, Signed Off , Add a new report : Orders by budget
09:46 cait ah sorry, wrong branch
09:47 cait 15950 it is
09:47 cait hm anyway, it applies now - thx for hte fix!
10:00 cait Joubu: could you fix 15653
10:00 cait ?
10:00 cait 15653 i mean
10:01 Joubu yep
10:01 cait thx!
10:03 Joubu pffff
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10:08 Joubu cait: done, easy to fix actually, I don't understand why git failed to apply it
10:09 cait wow
10:11 magnuse Joubu++
10:14 cait coming out of a tunnel and ...lots of snow!
10:14 cait i guess it's easy
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11:39 drojf hi #koha
11:49 LibraryClaire hi drojf
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11:51 cait back forabit
11:54 magnuse moin drojf LibraryClaire cait-back-for-a-bit
11:54 cait :)
11:54 drojf hi LibraryClaire. cait and magnuse
11:56 * LibraryClaire waves
12:04 * cait waves
12:28 cait looking at the marc notes patch now
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12:36 tcohen morning
12:36 cait morning tcohen
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12:47 oleonard Hi #koha
12:47 cait hi oleonard :)
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12:54 tcohen hey cait
13:01 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 15635 [QA Followup] - Fix number of unit tests <[…]f542e282326efa863> / Bug 15635: Change method type to _type for bug 15446 <[…]4a082480d64416ede> / Bug 15635: Koha::Patron::Images - Remove GetPatronImage <
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13:25 oleonard Hey kidclamp what was that bug you asked me to look at?
13:25 oleonard ( week later)
13:26 kidclamp um...bug 14576
13:26 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=14576 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, nick, Needs Signoff , Allow arbitrary automatic update of location on checkin
13:26 oleonard Ah right, thanks.
13:27 kidclamp thank you
13:37 Joubu khall: if you have a minute, could you have a look at bug 11998 comment 108 please?
13:37 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=11998 major, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Signed Off , Syspref caching issues
13:38 Joubu (well, certainly more than 1 min... :))
13:38 Joubu I have no idea why the tests do not pass
13:41 kidclamp Hi Joubu
13:41 Joubu hi kidclamp
13:42 kidclamp I also don't have an option I really like for 15930
13:42 kidclamp the best we came up with was split terms unless "phrase search" with quotes
13:43 kidclamp beyond that #2 (syspref) is my favored, but I would argue for default=contains as it was more closely the standard behaviour
13:44 Joubu it may return too much and irrelevant results
13:45 kidclamp I think if we let " " indicate a phrase search and split otherwise it returns the results wanted for multipart names
13:45 kidclamp and restores the way many libraries have been using it
13:46 Joubu before 3.18 :)
13:46 kidclamp through 3.18
13:46 kidclamp before 3.20 :)
13:46 cait looking at 15434 next
13:46 Joubu kidclamp: would you mind sending an email on koha[-devel] to start a troll^Wdiscussion?
13:47 kidclamp :D
13:47 kidclamp will do
13:48 Joubu thanks
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14:08 magnuse is there no way to tell when a deleted item (= a row in the deleteditems table) was deleted?
14:09 oleonard magnuse: Have your librarians write a note every time they delete something?
14:11 kidclamp magnuse: timestamp?  liklely it is not updated since deletion
14:11 oleonard "I have deleted / the item / that was in / the items table" "and which / you cataloged / so /carefully" "Forgive me / the dog ate it / so many / chew marks"
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14:15 Joubu @later tell khall could you have a look at bug 11998 comment 108 please?
14:15 huginn Joubu: The operation succeeded.
14:15 khall Joubu: looking right now
14:16 Joubu thank khall!
14:19 magnuse oleonard: lulz
14:19 magnuse kidclamp: i missed the timestamp, that should do it, i think
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14:24 Joubu magnuse: unless you have the binlog enabled, I don't see how it could be possible
14:25 magnuse Joubu: shouldn't the timestamp be updated when the row is added to deleteditems?
14:26 Joubu magnuse: sorry, I thought you wanted to know when a deleteditems rows was deleted
14:27 kidclamp you just check the 'deleteddeleteditems' table for that right?
14:27 Joubu the deleteditems.timestamp will be updated automatically when updated
14:27 Joubu but I don't know what is the behavior if the timestamp is given
14:28 Joubu which is certainly what does the move from items to deleteditems (insert into deleteditems select * from items)
14:28 Joubu I suppose the timestamp will be copied, but I might be wrong
14:29 kidclamp in practice the data there seems good, timestamp updated on deletion, I have often used it in reporting
14:30 oleonard kidclamp: Seems like  UpdateItemLocationOnCheckin fails if your pref is like "FOO:BAR" but is okay if it has a space: "FOO: BAR"
14:30 oleonard kidclamp: Is that to be expected?
14:30 kidclamp yes, yaml wants that space
14:30 magnuse kidclamp++
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14:31 magnuse Joubu: no, luckily for me , i was looking for the time it was copied from items to deleteditems :-)
14:31 oleonard kidclamp: I think it's too much to ask the user to know that, do it correctly, and not trigger an error if they get it wrong.
14:32 oleonard There should at least be an error somewhere.
14:32 oleonard Better would be to process the user's input before saving it
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14:32 kidclamp oleonard: fair enough, if you wouldn't mind testing the rest and failing me for that I would be obliged
14:33 oleonard Okay.
14:33 kidclamp oleonard,  do the special values seem reasonable i.e. _ALL_
14:36 oleonard It's more clear than it was. Still not as good as a simple form with pairs of dropdowns.
14:38 kidclamp true.  my first concern was getting preserving/replacing the behavior of the other sysprefs (returntoshelving, proctocart)
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14:39 oleonard What I'm picturing is a separate page which is merely a front-end for saving the data to the same system pref.
14:40 oleonard Then perhaps the  UpdateItemLocationOnCheckin pref gets moved to "Local use" since it wouldn't normally get edited by hand.
14:40 kidclamp but in tools or admin
14:40 oleonard I guess admin, since you have to be an admin to set system preferences
14:41 oleonard A setting with "_ALL_" would override any other settings wouldn't it?
14:42 kidclamp yes
14:43 magnuse have fun #koha!
14:43 * magnuse wanders off to make pizza
14:43 oleonard That's the kind of case which would be much easier to validate in its own template.
14:49 Joubu bye #koha
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14:52 hector Hi oleonard
14:53 hector oleonard: last patch of your set patch signed-off, bug 15785
14:53 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=15785 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , Use Font Awesome icons in confirmation dialogs
14:54 hector oleonard: sorry is bug 15978
14:54 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=15978 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Signed Off , Use Font Awesome icons for guided reports error dialog
14:54 oleonard Thanks hector!
14:54 oleonard hector++
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14:56 hector Your welcome oleonard
14:57 oleonard kidclamp: I don't think I understand how to test the _PERM_ option
14:58 kidclamp So, you can manually change the value through sql, or when it is changed to shelf or cart the value in permanent is unaffected
14:59 kidclamp so if you have a rule 'FIC: CART'
14:59 kidclamp perm should be FIC
14:59 kidclamp if you do CART: _PERM_ it should then change back to it's permanent
14:59 kidclamp so add both rules, check it in and view the item
14:59 kidclamp then do it again
15:00 oleonard Thanks
15:00 kidclamp np, that is an odd field that has restrictions on how it can be set, any update not to shelf or cart updates permanent location  too
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15:33 kidclamp oleonard++
15:44 oleonard 'Alt+y' as the keyboard shortcut for "renew" doesn't exactly play nice with dialogs where we have defined "accesskey='y'
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16:09 reiveune bye
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16:11 pianohacker morning
16:11 oleonard Hi pianohacker
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16:40 bag morning
16:42 drojf evening
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16:43 drojf one place left for the bibframe workshop in rome. last chance :)
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16:53 drojf oh, brewdog opensourced all their beer recipes
16:56 drojf not a big fan of their pseudo punk attitude, but that's still nice
17:02 oleonard No license? :P
17:05 drojf they should use agpl, like koha :P
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17:22 * cait waves
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17:26 drojf hibye cait. have a nice weekend everyone
17:30 tcohen khall
17:30 tcohen around?
17:32 kidclamp I am picking his brain right now tcohen, I will point him at you when done :-)
17:34 tcohen there's a divergence between kohastructure.sql and a 3.20+upgrades
17:36 tcohen that's why t/db_dependent/TestBuilder.t fails in jenkins
17:38 khall tcohen: good to know, is anyone working on a fix?
17:38 tcohen i don't think so, i'm not sure who go the regression email
17:40 gaetan_B bye
17:49 cait hmthere is a known bug about the overdues tables
17:49 cait letter....?
17:49 wahanui letter is, like, put in the table without check on the email
17:49 cait is that it?
17:50 tcohen letters
17:56 tcohen khall: [17:07:53] t/db_dependent/TestBuilder.t .. 2/41 DBD::mysql::st execute failed: Cannot add or update a child row: a foreign key constraint fails (`koha_master`.`deletedborrowers`, CONSTRAINT `deletedborrowers_ibfk_1` FOREIGN KEY (`sms_provider_id`) REFERENCES `sms_providers` (`id`) ON DELETE SET NULL ON UPDATE CASCADE)
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19:15 oleonard Man this login redirect bug is getting really tiresome.
19:40 pianohacker_DND oleonard: bug 15816?
19:40 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=15816 minor, P3, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , Timeout login redirects to home page
19:41 oleonard Yes
19:43 pianohacker_DND @later tell Joubu I tested bug 15970, bug 11998 and bug 15341, and there's has noticeable performance improvements; a search goes from 3.3 to 2.3 seconds for me
19:43 huginn pianohacker_DND: The operation succeeded.
19:44 pianohacker_DND oleonard: yes, that's frustrating for me as well. Not sure anyone knows how to solve it for both Plack and CGI, either
19:45 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 15084 [QA Followup] - Update Schema files <[…]404cda8891c00b85b>
19:47 bag thanks khall !!!
19:47 khall np!
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19:51 mtompset Greetings, #koha.
19:51 mtompset @seen tcohen
19:51 huginn mtompset: tcohen was last seen in #koha 1 hour, 55 minutes, and 19 seconds ago: <tcohen> khall: [17:07:53] t/db_dependent/TestBuilder.t .. 2/41 DBD::mysql::st execute failed: Cannot add or update a child row: a foreign key constraint fails (`koha_master`.`deletedborrowers`, CONSTRAINT `deletedborrowers_ibfk_1` FOREIGN KEY (`sms_provider_id`) REFERENCES `sms_providers` (`id`) ON DELETE SET NULL ON UPDATE CASCADE)
19:54 oleonard Bye #koha, have a good weekend
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20:43 hector Hi everyone, someone know why Acq module fails
20:43 hector This fials in master
20:45 hector This is the error message: Software error:
20:45 hector Undefined subroutine &main::GetCurrency called at /home/koha/kohaclone/acqui/ line 132
20:46 bag hector: if could be introduced here https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]_bug.cgi?id=15084
20:46 huginn Bug 15084: enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Master , Move the currency related code to Koha::Acquisition::Currenc[y|ies]
20:48 cait hector: i think this is probably related to the new currenciesmodule - can you file abugplease and link them maybe?
20:48 cait oh
20:48 cait i overread bag
20:48 cait what bag said:)
20:48 hector Ok cait
20:48 hector I will file a new bug
20:49 bag yeah looks like we just missed one - good catch hector :)
20:49 bag I’d alert Joubu about it ;)
20:49 hector Okidoki bag
20:49 bag :D
20:49 cait :)
20:49 hector wait me a minute and let you know the number of the bug
20:50 bag :)
20:50 bag alright bbias
20:53 cait #
20:54 hector the number is: bug 15987
20:54 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=15987 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, NEW , Acq module fails with undefined subroutine &main::GetCurrency
20:57 hector bag and cait I filled jobu as assignee to alert him
21:03 bag :)
21:10 hector By #koha
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21:39 tcohen hey
21:39 tcohen mandale a gotthe
21:39 tcohen ghote
21:39 tcohen gohtte
21:39 tcohen com osea
21:39 bag hi tcohen
21:40 tcohen anyone working on the db issues?
21:40 tcohen Unknown column 'me.sms_provider_id' in 'field list'
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23:05 mtompset Greetings, tcohen.
23:05 mtompset I've begun tinkering around with your tests and the filter to see if I can get something that works and I like.
23:14 tcohen mtompset: cool
23:14 tcohen have a nice weekend #koha
23:15 mtompset Have a good weekend, #koha.
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