IRC log for #koha, 2016-02-23

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00:49 mtompset Greetings, #koha.
00:49 mtompset Francesca: I sang in my univeristy choir a LONG time ago. It was an easy 1/4 credit. :)
00:49 Francesca lol
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01:53 mtj heya mtompset, what kind of tunes? ^
02:00 mtompset Choral stuff that I would never remember.
02:00 mtompset :)
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02:11 mtj i recently discovered this stuff. ->
02:14 mtj i think i can heard its influence in Sinéad O'Connor :)
02:14 mtj heh, can heard
02:17 mtj "Enhancing a sense of continuity such as by filling the gap between phrases with a nasalised drone"
02:29 * mtj wasnt suggesting she had a 'nasalised drone', nor that there is anything wrong with that :)
02:40 mtompset Chacun son gout. -- Any french speakers, pardon my horrible French.
02:40 mtompset (Each to his own taste)
02:41 mtompset Strange how foreign languages sit in your head for ages, and you don't think of them until your response comes out in that language.
02:41 mtompset Having been in the Philippines, my mushy romantic side tends to have Filipino expressions.
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08:06 gaetan_B hello
08:06 wahanui privet, gaetan_B
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08:07 reiveune hello
08:07 wahanui hey, reiveune
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08:38 * magnuse waves
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11:14 balvis can anyone please help me in issuing reminders in koha?
11:14 balvis the patron must me sent an email regarding overdue
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11:14 drojf hi #koha
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11:42 octo19 Hi folks, I'm trying to install fresh Koha on Debian 8 with no success. The error is "no installation candidate" for at least 50 Koha dependancies. The issue seems to be stuck with perl/CPAN. I'm in need of a perl/CPAN repo. Thoughts? Advice? Thanks!
11:43 bob_ octo19: sounds like your apt sources might be set up wrong. Also, did you do an apt-get update?
11:44 octo19 bob_ you are probably correct. I have done apt-get update several times. I've also tried adding all 3 of the Debian CDROMs as repos without success.
11:44 bob_ yeah don't use the cdroms, use internet mirrors
11:45 bob_ is handy for this
11:46 bob_ actually that site looks to be having problems at the moment
11:46 bob_ try[…]st-generator.html
11:46 octo19 Yea I tried that last week without success. I'll try the second one you sent.
11:47 bob_ blah, that just links to the first one
11:47 bob_ which country are you in?
11:48 octo19 Yes haha.
11:48 octo19 Spain
11:50 cait packages?
11:50 wahanui packages is at
11:50 cait best is to follow this
11:51 cait you don't need any dependencies from CPAN
11:51 octo19 that's what I'm using
11:51 cait it will all be installed with installing koha-common
11:51 cait then what's in your host?
11:51 cait are you using stable?
11:52 octo19 cait I'm doing 'apt-get install koha-common' without success.
11:52 octo19 yes I'm using stable.
11:52 bob_ octo19: your apt-sources list should look something like . Then follow instructions at https://wiki.koha-community.or[…]ki/Koha_on_Debian
11:52 cait what is the entry in your koha.list file?
11:52 octo19 I've also tried 'apt-get install -f' without success
11:53 octo19 bob_ my source list looks just like that and I'm following those instructions
11:54 cait can you paste what is in your koha.list file?
11:54 octo19 cait where can I find that file? Google didn
11:54 octo19 didn't tell me
11:54 cait it's in the instructions
11:54 cait /etc/apt/sources.list.d/koha.list
11:55 * cait waves at bob_ - any luck with your search problem?
11:56 octo19 cait the koha.list file doesn't exist on my machine...hmm...thoughts?
11:56 bob_ cait: nup, I came here to ask another question actually. The old database had everything stored as usmarc - is there anything I have to do to make that work?
11:56 cait octo19: yep, start from the beginning of the instructions again
11:56 cait something has not gone right
11:57 cait bob_: usmarc and marc21 are very similar/the same - it's probably not a problem
11:58 cait as long as you didn>'t install with unimarc :)
11:58 bob_ I can't get yaz to give me any results though
11:58 cait hm
11:58 cait maybe check if your zebrasrv process is running
11:58 bob_ yep, done that
11:58 bob_ I can connect with yaz
11:58 cait oh
11:58 cait did you index?
11:59 cait after moving the data to the new server?
11:59 bob_ with `koha-rebuild-zebra -f -v unisfa'? yes
11:59 cait hm
12:00 cait and that returend no problems?
12:01 bob_ there was one warning that I didn't get any google luck from, I'll rerun to grab it again
12:01 bob_ 20:01:04-23/02 zebraidx(1006) [warn] Record didn't contain match fields in (bib1,Local-number)
12:02 octo19 cait you were correct; I started from the top and now the koha.list file is happy. However, I still have unmet dependancies. apt-get install -f does not work.
12:03 cait so what does it tell you?
12:03 cait bob_: you came from a really old koha version, right?
12:03 bob_ yeah
12:03 bob_ version 3 I think
12:04 octo19 cait "Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages."
12:04 cait there can be a problem with zebra if your records don't have a unique bilbionumber... but you imported them using the koha import tools i think... so not sure what could go wrong there
12:04 cait did you change anything in the configuration about the mappngs?
12:04 cait octo19: what's in your koha.list file?
12:04 octo19 cait only the koha repo
12:05 cait which one?
12:05 wahanui well, which one is t?
12:05 cait can you paste the line?
12:05 octo19 deb stable main
12:06 cait hm and you ran duso apt-get update?
12:06 octo19 ues
12:06 octo19 yes*
12:06 cait sorry, i am out of ideas
12:06 cait it shoudl work
12:06 bob_ cait: do you mean config via administration or config via koha-conf?
12:07 cait via administration
12:07 bob_ octo19: that error can be caused by pinned packages or apt-preferences
12:07 cait oh, and did you check the about page - system information tab for clues?
12:07 octo19 cait thanks for your help.
12:07 octo19 bob_ how can I check that?
12:07 bob_ yes I did and that only had a trivial thing about currencies not set. Fixed that and now it's blank
12:08 cait sorry, out of ideas :( maybe ty the mailing list
12:08 bob_ octo19: check /etc/apt/preferences and anything in /etc/apt/preferences.d/
12:09 bob_ cait: thanks for trying
12:09 cait it's probably something small
12:09 cait it always is
12:10 octo19 bob_ /etc/apt/preferences doesn't exist and /preferences.d is empty.
12:13 bob_ octo19: first undo whatever you've done with installing packages before (eg apt-get remove --purge koha-common) and make sure you can install standard debian packages. Don't bother trying to install koha-common until you've made apt happy
12:14 bob_ anyway, this is getting me
12:14 bob_ cait: what does the "base" command in yaz-client do?
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12:31 cait bob_: sorry, yaz and me are not really friends
12:31 cait have you checked the wiki for instructions?
12:33 bob_ yeah nothing more than "base biblios"
12:34 gaetan_B Hi magnuse, it seems we're going to meet in the far north pretty soon :)
12:34 bob_ and the yaz client manual is about as helpful
12:34 cait bibios is the db name i think
12:34 cait from your koha-conf file
12:35 cait not the mysql db
12:35 cait i might be confusing things, but i am quite sure it comes from the config in koha-conf
12:39 Joubu base will select  the zebra db to use
12:39 Joubu defaults are biblios and authorities
12:39 cait thx Joubu
12:39 Joubu cf koha-conf.xml, section server
12:39 cait i started to feel a bit lonely here :)
12:41 bob_ Joubu: as in server id=<blah> ?
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12:42 oleonard Hi #koha
12:42 Joubu bob_: you have server id="biblioserver"
12:42 Joubu and later, a serverInfo tag
12:42 Joubu with host, port and database
12:45 bob_ ah yes
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13:13 bob_ okay, if someone who's seen a few more zebra reindexes than me could take a look at these it would be great
13:13 bob_ reindex job:
13:13 bob_ sample output:
13:15 bob_ I also just noticed there's two entries with 090c = 1, is that likely to break things on the koha end?
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13:26 oleonard I'd love to hear opinions about Bug 15883
13:26 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=15883 normal, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, NEW , Upgrade jQuery from v1.7.2 in the staff client
13:27 oleonard I think it's a workable plan, but I'm not sure about the git history issue.
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13:35 cait oleonard++
13:40 oleonard Who's our Datatables colVis expert?
13:40 oleonard Bug 15674
13:40 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=15674 normal, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , 'Show/hide columns' is not translatable
13:42 oleonard Seems like it's potentially a simple fix to move that button text into a place where it will get translated. Simple for a colVis expert anyway.
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13:48 LibraryClaire afternoon #koha
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14:07 oleonard @later tell rangi I've been getting intermittent errors from Bugzilla. Have you noticed anything on your end?
14:07 huginn oleonard: The operation succeeded.
14:10 nengard morning all
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14:11 oleonard Hi nengard
14:15 cait Joubu: could you take a look at bug 15674 maybe?
14:15 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=15674 normal, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , 'Show/hide columns' is not translatable
14:15 cait and oleonard++ :)
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14:16 talljoy has dcook had his baby yet?  all i see on facebook is him posting random *non baby* links.
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14:16 talljoy his wife is in labor!  I want updates.  :-D
14:16 cait i think in march
14:17 cait or did i miss something?
14:17 talljoy according to the source of all news (facebook) her water broke like a day or so ago
14:17 cait i put march in my calendar... at least a while ago
14:17 cait oh wow
14:17 oleonard talljoy: I know, right?!
14:17 talljoy srsly
14:17 oleonard *non baby* links!!
14:17 talljoy i don't care about the prime minister of canada
14:17 cait maybe just too busy?
14:17 talljoy WHERE IS THE BABY
14:17 cait heh
14:18 cait hm good thought
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14:32 drojf lol
14:35 drojf talljoy: i hear you will tell me all about BIBFRAME? i booked a flight to rome this morning :)
14:35 talljoy yay!
14:35 drojf my first question is, has the name BIBFRAME to be shouted outside of the internet too?
14:36 talljoy It will change your life.
14:36 drojf that will be one loud workshop
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14:36 talljoy it will be a rowdy time...
14:36 talljoy we could just starting going with the triple prefix of bf:  that will be quieter....
14:37 drojf heh
14:39 talljoy excellent!  brendan is on a quest to find the perfect gnocchi.  you two may not be sharing many meals then.  ;-)
14:39 talljoy i'm after the wine....i'm safe eating anywhere. lol
14:41 drojf the wine part is also important :D
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14:46 oleonard With the new audio alerts system, it supposed to be possible to define multiple sounds for a particular selector?
14:46 oleonard If not, I don't understand the "precedence" setting.
14:46 oleonard khall?
14:46 wahanui rumour has it khall is volunteering to come over and fix it for you, it seems. ;)
14:47 cait i think the one that applies first
14:47 cait for overlapping definitions?
14:47 cait did you check the help page? i think i read something there about the precedence
14:47 oleonard Good thinking.
14:48 oleonard I guess precedence applies when more than one selector is on the page. So really it shouldn't be possible to define multiple sounds for one selector?
14:48 cait that's my guess
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14:59 tcohen morning
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15:17 * oleonard welcomes tcohen clone tcohen1
15:17 * oleonard wonders how many clones are in this series... tcohen500?
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15:26 tcohen clone wars
15:29 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 15643 - Every datepicker on serials expected date column updates top issue <[…]84c3965ddc4778956>
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15:39 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: DBRev for Bug 13534 - Deleting staff patron will delete tags approved by this patron <[…]6e2e081debafa4a6c> / Bug 13534: Do not remove tags on deleting a patron <[…]ad3fe61701809fc0e>
15:50 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: DBRev for Bug 13534 [Followup] - Remove tabs and atomic update file <[…]b8fdd119718145fcd>
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16:52 reiveune bye
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17:06 gaetan_B bye
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17:43 oleonard Bug 15886 makes me feel like a busybody, but I think it is a good improvement. I hope you don't mind khall.
17:43 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=15886 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Needs Signoff , Revise layout and behavior of audio alerts management
17:44 khall oleonard: not at all! I'm no ui wizard so I always appreciate ui improvements ; )
17:44 khall I'll have to check it out
17:47 cait is about to make me cry :(
17:47 pianohacker it does that to people
17:47 nengard oh no
17:47 cait the fines work just like they shoudl in my testing... but i can't manage to make the right books show up in the overdue notices
17:48 cait i have a grace period of 3
17:48 cait so say we ignore the calendar
17:48 cait and i set the delay to 3
17:48 cait say i just set the delay to three, completely independent from the grace period...
17:49 cait why woudl it list the item with the due date from yesterday in the overdue notice?
17:49 cait and only this item
17:49 cait although i have one item checked out for every day from today to ... january
17:49 cait it makes no sense
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17:51 pianohacker cait: are you running it in triggered mode or no?
17:51 cait -t
17:52 cait tested both... both make no sense, but ultimately i want -t
17:55 cait i want it to list the item s that are overdue from 3 days onward to the next delay value
17:55 cait like it did in 3.18
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18:07 cait pianohacker: it's me
18:07 cait stupid configuration mistake
18:10 cait now it's happy tears... all working :)
18:16 cait pianohacker++ thx for listening :)
18:16 cait bye all!
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19:17 rangi oleonard: just the usual bots/search engines agressively spidering it, probably maxing connections
19:18 oleonard Thanks for looking rangi. The errors on my end are never informative.
19:24 * cait waves
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19:33 kathryn morning
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19:38 cait oleonard: hm i have another with for the item search management form
19:38 cait can we get rid of the pull downs?
19:39 cait i filed a bug - for example we use upper case subfields in items and it's not possible to confiugre that
19:41 oleonard I suppose we could replace them with text fields... I wonder what kind of validation we can provide
19:41 cait i think for the field three numbers should work
19:42 oleonard And one character for subfields?
19:42 cait maybe we could just check for a single character and 3 characters?
19:42 cait would work for me
19:43 cait trying to find the bugreport
19:43 cait bug 15384
19:43 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=15384 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , Items search fields: Change pull downs to input fields
19:44 cait and with was supposed to be wish... )
19:59 oleonard You wish is my command cait
19:59 * oleonard waves goodbye
19:59 cait oh
19:59 cait now i missed him
20:10 cait oleonard++ ... all the patches
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20:51 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 15785 - Use Font Awesome icons in confirmation dialogs <[…]450e9ea9a8eb5ab26>
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21:01 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 15756: Some tests for haspermission in C4::Auth <[…]9a39c7a4389f056e4> / Bug 15764: Fix timestamp sent by KOCT <[…]1c2133ae4c221357b> / Bug 15790 - Don't delete a MARC framework if existing records use that framework <
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21:03 tcohen1 "Can't locate Authen/CAS/Client/Response/"
21:03 tcohen1 anyone?
21:03 wahanui anyone is free to organize one at any time :-)
21:04 cait hm when and where?
21:04 tcohen fresh packages install (3.22), enabling plack
21:05 tcohen Joubu mentioned this error, constrained to kohadevbox:ansible a while back
21:05 tcohen i'm puzzled no one has raised it before (we have 3.22.3 lready!
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21:19 rangi Hmm I havent bumped into it, and I have a few 3.22 running
21:20 tcohen its a bug in libauthen-cas-client-perl I think
21:20 tcohen it is looking for Authen/CAS/Client/Response/
21:20 tcohen which is not shipped
21:20 rangi ahh maybe only shows if you have cas turned on?
21:20 tcohen no, this is just a clean install for testing purposes
21:21 tcohen have you tried on debian 8? with plack?
21:21 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 15746: Same fix for "write off" <[…]ffdd1a7078d13af60> / Bug 15746: Do not record individual payments with randomly picked libraries <[…]956c3b148433a253c>
21:21 rangi hmm, probably not with plack
21:21 tcohen ah, exactly
21:22 tcohen it does happen with plack only
21:22 tcohen rangi: how are you doing btw?
21:22 tcohen :-D
21:22 rangi not too bad, a bit tired, but otherwsie ok, how about you?
21:24 tcohen tired, trying to catch up, finally
21:24 tcohen :-D
21:29 bag yeah trying to catch up - sounds familiar
21:31 tcohen hi bag
21:31 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 15742 [QA Followup] - Tidy script <[…]689ea52b99d84962f> / Bug 15742: Remove unnecessary loop in j2a cronjob <[…]e9b2d8f43773af332>
21:31 tcohen later #koha
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21:41 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 12051: Adds a Renew tab to the staff client <[…]d52cffcaa5a1c2192> / Bug 15730 - 500 error on if barcode doesn't exist <[…]8e8b918afac9477ec>
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22:21 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 15833: item.biblioitemnumber returns a biblioitem DBIx::Class object <[…]37cb882bc025b357f> / DBRev Bug 6624 - Allow Koha to use the new read API from OpenLibrary <[…]0b4238f62350967f7> / Bug 6624: Add test for OpenLibrary <
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22:42 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 15706: (follow-up) Changing to circulate_remaining_permissions <[…]29478a246859daf07> / Bug 15706: Changing to circulate_remaining_permissions <[…]4eae77987e053fcf3>
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22:52 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 15670 - Rename "Cancel" to "Cancel hold" when checking in a waiting item <[…]50f80961d1653c49e> / Bug 15691: Show card number minimum and maximum in visible hint when adding a patron <[…]ac81c5b66877b3952>
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23:02 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 15663: Fix 'remove selected items', add a 'delete batch' button <[…]d37b1401b1324bc8e>
23:12 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 15605: Remove the cursor:pointer style. <[…]f5c96dd34d529246f> / Bug 15605 - Accessibility: Can't tab to add link in serials routing list add user... <[…]664409417f9838923> / Bug 15657 (follow-up bug 15501): add missing semi-colon <http://git.koha-communi
23:16 bag oh rangi you’ve got a few running 3.22 already?  nice.  Are they noticing a good change with plack ?
23:17 rangi it's not running plack
23:17 bag ah
23:17 rangi will switch it on at some point, but haven't tested it enough to do it in production yet
23:17 bag so no notice :)
23:17 bag heh
23:18 rangi we have other sites running in plack
23:18 rangi but not using the method in 3.22
23:22 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 15514: Fix error with certain repeatable fields in Rancor <[…]8dbe7d45649779740> / DBRev for Bug 15517 - Tables borrowers and deletedborrowers differ again <[…]e9d7ea0550c2b6a4f> / Bug 15517: Change wording for tests <
23:32 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 15479 [QA Followup] - Tidy sub to remove tabs causing qa script to fail <[…]0e93ef6fdea543230> / Bug 15479 Add tests for <[…]b44f45892c342e28c> / Bug 15479 Make ILS cardnumber comparison case insensitive <
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