IRC log for #koha, 2016-02-22

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03:05 wahanui
03:05 huginn wizzyrea: Quote #123: "rangi: #thingsihavelearnt if there is a mad scheme a library somewhere will be doing it ... except madder" (added by wizzyrea at 09:20 PM, March 30, 2011)
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07:34 * cait waves and runs off - bbiab
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08:02 LibraryClaire morning #koha
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08:08 reiveune hello
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08:13 Joubu hi
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08:16 LibraryClaire hello
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08:34 cait hi all
08:38 LibraryClaire morning cait :)
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08:51 * magnuse waves again
08:51 magnuse @wunder boo
08:51 huginn magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 1.0°C (9:20 AM CET on February 22, 2016). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 56%. Dew Point: -7.0°C. Windchill: -5.0°C. Pressure: 29.12 in 986 hPa (Steady).
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08:58 LibraryClaire @wunder guildford, uk
08:58 huginn LibraryClaire: The current temperature in Chilworth, Chilworth, United Kingdom is 8.7°C (8:58 AM GMT on February 22, 2016). Conditions: Light Drizzle. Humidity: 88%. Dew Point: 7.0°C. Windchill: 9.0°C. Pressure: 29.80 in 1009 hPa (Steady).
09:11 cait morning LibraryClaire :)
09:11 cait any luck with the wiki so far?
09:12 LibraryClaire yes, I got a password over the weekend :D
09:12 cait cool!
09:12 cait asked you ... and then 2 secs later so the changes to the wiki page .)
09:12 LibraryClaire thanks for the help :)
09:12 LibraryClaire haha
09:12 cait oh flight at the same time :)
09:12 LibraryClaire yeah!
09:12 cait but yours is directly to london?
09:13 LibraryClaire haha, I wish
09:13 LibraryClaire no, going back via Zurich
09:13 LibraryClaire it's half term week so direct flights are hideously expensive that week
09:14 cait ok, so it's exactly the same flight then :)
09:14 LibraryClaire oh, cool
09:16 cait zürich is the closest airport from here - we are directly at the swiss border
09:16 LibraryClaire aaaah, I see
09:16 LibraryClaire I was trying to figure out the geography
09:17 cait takes about an hour by train and zürich airport is like... super clean
09:17 LibraryClaire yeah, makes sense
09:17 LibraryClaire ooh, good :)
09:17 cait one of the nicest
09:18 LibraryClaire I fly out through Wien and back through Zurich
09:20 LibraryClaire both places I've not visited and no time to stop :(
09:22 cait :(
09:22 cait we shoudl have kohacon in wien :)
09:22 cait sometime
09:22 LibraryClaire oooh, yes
09:23 cait I think there are at least 4 Koha libraries there that I know about - seems like a good start :)
09:24 LibraryClaire :D
09:25 ashimema @wunder stevenage, uk
09:25 huginn ashimema: The current temperature in Stevenage, England, Stevenage, United Kingdom is 6.0°C (9:25 AM GMT on February 22, 2016). Conditions: Light Rain. Humidity: 87%. Dew Point: 4.0°C. Windchill: 6.0°C. Pressure: 29.77 in 1008 hPa (Steady).
09:25 cait morning ashimema
09:25 * LibraryClaire waves
09:26 * ashimema wishes he could come to kohacon :(
09:26 LibraryClaire aw :(
09:26 ashimema school hols is not a good time for a conference when you have kids ;)
09:27 LibraryClaire yeeeeeah...
09:27 ashimema cait will look after you I'm sure though LibraryClaire :)
09:27 LibraryClaire :D
09:37 * magnuse will probably miss out too
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09:45 cait ashimema: same for the Berlin hackfestß
09:45 cait ?
09:46 ashimema yup
09:46 ashimema the two overlap the hols exactly.
09:56 magnuse bad hols
10:00 LibraryClaire back in a bit :)
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10:26 marcelr hi #koha
10:27 cait hi marcelr
10:27 marcelr :)
10:29 cait hm wondering if the third option for finesmode is functional
10:29 cait bug 3248 indicates it might not
10:29 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=3248 normal, P3, ---, paul.poulain, NEW , CIRC Sys Preference - FinesMode  "test" incorrect
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10:59 marcelr cait: your comment on bug 14457 is what I was thinking too
10:59 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=14457 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, eivin, Failed QA , Integrate LIBRIS spellchecking
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11:35 drojf hi #koha
11:36 magnuse moin drojf
11:37 drojf hei magnuse
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11:48 bob_ ahoy
11:49 bob_ can anyone tell me the quickest and easiest way of submitting koha bug reports?
11:50 marcelr 111 bugs in PQA
11:50 bob_ I've just been upgrading a 3.02.03 database to latest and have found a few things
11:51 marcelr when will they be pushed?
11:54 Joubu marcelr: I have asked bag on Friday
11:54 Joubu[…]6-02-19#i_1791403
11:55 marcelr ok, looking forward to that
11:55 Joubu bob_: on the bug tracker: https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]la3/enter_bug.cgi
11:55 marcelr rebase_party?
11:55 Joubu certainly, yes
11:55 bob_ Joubu: ta
11:56 Joubu bob_: what kind of bugs did you find?
11:58 bob_ Joubu: a few database upgrade bugs, mostly due to the upgrade script not stopping when something fails. The other was an incorrect reference to /usr/share/koha/intranet/ht​docs/intranet-tmpl/default which I had to symlink to /usr/share/koha/intranet/htdocs/intranet-tmpl/prog
11:59 bob_ the database upgrade thing was the most annoying because it would just charge ahead with a broken database, changing the database version regardless, which made it a PITA to re-run the script
12:00 bob_ for the record: new install from packages, clean debian install, old db, new config files
12:00 Joubu yes, the updatedb continues even if an error is occurred, that's the expected behaviour
12:00 Joubu and yes it's a mess when something really bad happens :-/
12:01 cait marcelr: sorry, was at lunch
12:01 bob_ yes I read that in a few of the bug reports I came across
12:01 marcelr you should eat, cait :)
12:01 cait i did... but not sure I should :)
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12:03 cait hm  /usr/share/koha/intranet/ht​docs/intranet-tmpl/default  is odd
12:03 cait that's not a standard path i think
12:03 bob_ Joubu: there was one point I couldn't quite believe it didn't stop - version 3.19 where it tells you that you need to manually edit the db to make userid in borrowers unique. Subsequent updates rely on this having been done
12:04 marcelr hm bob_ that sounds like a new bug report
12:04 bob_ (at least, iirc it was 3.19)
12:04 * bob_ checks
12:04 marcelr 3.19 is a development number
12:05 Joubu marcelr: DBrevs are numbered like that
12:05 marcelr he means 3.xx.19
12:05 bob_ yeah
12:05 marcelr ok
12:06 bob_ sorry to cause confusion with version numbers there
12:06 marcelr np
12:06 marcelr it is worh reporting
12:06 marcelr h->th
12:07 bob_ will do
12:08 bob_ any thoughts on the other thing? Without that symlink I had no intranet styles and I couldn't do things like searching patrons
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12:20 cait bob_: is it possible that you have custom templates?
12:21 cait normally all the interesting files are in intranaet-tmpl/prog - with prog being koha's default templates
12:21 cait for the intranet - the one for opac is bootstrap
12:21 bob_ not unless that is somehow defined in the database. The only thing I brought across from the old install is the db
12:22 cait[…]038ec3350a1ecf94f
12:22 cait you can check your *theme* preferences
12:23 cait it's template and opacthemes - intranet should be 'template' and be set to 'prog'
12:23 cait you might have to check in the db - because the pull down in koha only has one value and it wouldn't show a customone
12:24 bob_ ah yes, it was set to default
12:24 bob_ cait: thanks :)
12:25 bob_ now works without that symlink
12:25 cait you might want to check on the old system how your custom template was different... it's not done very often
12:26 bob_ they probably just had a custom logo for the club or something, but I'll check once I've got the rest working
12:27 bob_ and by "the rest" I mean the actual books - I still can't search, but that's probably something I've done wrong
12:33 bob_ btw, is there a way of merging library branches? Looks like someone in the past made "oldlibrary" and "newlibrary" for no particular reason
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12:37 bob_ I can't seem to google this one because of all the references to git branches
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12:56 kidclamp morning koha
12:56 marcelr hi kidclamp
12:57 kidclamp hi marcelr
12:58 marcelr you should be nick according to the wiki :) did not know that
13:01 kidclamp Yeah, changed my handle, confused many :-)
13:03 francharb Morning
13:04 cait bob_: for merging it will probably be enough if you change the items with the batch edit tool and eventually patrons.. and then you can delete the branch
13:04 cait bob_: for searching - check the about koha page - tab system information for clues
13:05 cait morning kidclamp
13:05 cait kidclamp: i am still confused
13:05 cait i am too odl for change :P
13:05 bob_ cait: thanks, that makes sense
13:06 kidclamp hehe cait, I am filing a bug right now
13:06 kidclamp the code I am trying to use seems broken, and isn't used elsehwere
13:13 kidclamp cait: bug 15877
13:13 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=15877 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , C4::Barcodes  does not correctly calculate db_max for 'annual' barcodes
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13:45 oleonard Hi #koha
13:53 kidclamp hi oleonard
13:55 LibraryClaire hi oleonard
14:01 cait hi oleonard
14:01 cait oleonard: if you have a bit of time... could you take a look at the new extra fields for subscriptions style wise maybe?
14:02 cait subscription edit and summary
14:02 oleonard I hate testing serials, but for you cait... Yes.
14:02 cait :)
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14:02 oleonard Is it a bug in testing or something which is in master already?
14:03 cait already released with 3.22
14:03 cait i just think it might be possible to make it look a bit nicer
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14:05 DD Hi DD here
14:05 DD need help on notices
14:06 DD we are able to generate notices fo check-in but generates one notice per title for a borrower
14:14 cait did you check the summary/digest checkbox in the message preferences?
14:14 cait hm wait
14:14 cait that should not be necessary
14:15 cait how often does your message_queue cronjob run?
14:15 oleonard Too late cait DD left
14:15 LibraryClaire cait: I think they may have dc/d
14:15 cait ?
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14:15 cait oh
14:15 cait thx :)
14:15 cait what means dc/d?
14:16 LibraryClaire sorry, disconnected
14:18 oleonard if internationalization = i18n, disconnected = d10d?
14:18 LibraryClaire hehe
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14:23 kidclamp I thought 'd10d!' was what you shout when score a critical roll in D&D
14:29 cait i am writing a documentation about fines and notices... i have reached 8 pages...
14:29 LibraryClaire brrrrr
14:30 cait yeah brrr
14:31 LibraryClaire :)
14:32 khall @later tell tcohen bug 15879 may be of interest to you
14:32 huginn khall: The operation succeeded.
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14:37 * cait waves to khall
14:37 cait just documenting 'when to charge'
14:37 khall hi!
14:37 khall nice
14:37 cait so happy this works now, even if i have to rewrite our docs heh :)
14:38 oleonard Bug 15879
14:38 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=15879 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Needs Signoff , Allow multiple plugin directories to be defined in koha-conf.xml
14:38 oleonard There it is.
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14:44 mtompset Greetings, #koha.
14:45 mtompset @seen Joubu
14:45 huginn mtompset: Joubu was last seen in #koha 2 hours, 39 minutes, and 52 seconds ago: <Joubu> marcelr: DBrevs are numbered like that
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15:32 barton @later tell tcohen I shimmed a koha-mysql and a bit of sed into your xsltproc / biblio.zebra.inexdedefs.xsl trick you showed me: see
15:32 huginn barton: The operation succeeded.
15:33 barton ^^ anyone who works a lot with zebra indexes will probably find this useful.
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16:22 oleonard I kept pressing the "[ + ]" to see more...
16:25 reiveune bye
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16:39 mtompset oleonard: evil! :P
16:43 oleonard I'll let you know when I reach the bottom.
16:52 oleonard gmcharlt: Firebug shows JavaScript errors on the wiki. I think that is breaking some things, including the rich text editor.
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17:01 oleonard @later tell gmcharlt Firebug shows JavaScript errors on the wiki. I think that is breaking some things, including the rich text editor.
17:01 huginn oleonard: The operation succeeded.
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17:14 cait bye all bbl
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17:32 oleonard Perhaps we should jump from horribly out-of-date grids in the staff client to cutting-edge:[…]cs/flex-grid.html
17:42 mtompset Do they support unicode extended characters? ;)
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17:54 oleonard I would love to have syntax-highlighted code snippets in the wiki, but I guess I could settle for no JS errors.
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19:02 magnuse ¡hola tcohen!
19:05 tcohen1 hi magnuse
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19:16 * cait waves
19:22 * pianohacker waves
19:28 oleonard We really should upgrade jQuery, but where to begin? What a tangle.
19:30 oleonard I don't think we can think about adding Bootstrap 3 or 4 to the staff client until we do so.
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19:31 rangi yeah, I started on a bootstrap upgrade ... but realised jquery needs to go first
19:32 oleonard rangi: For the staff client? Or opac? And hi rangi, welcome back!
19:32 rangi kinda both, but mostly OPAC
19:33 rangi and thanks
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19:33 oleonard I think we're going to have to whittle down the issues raised in the upgrade guide which can be tackled pre-upgrade
19:33 magnuse welcome back rangi!
19:34 magnuse those were some shiny speaker's gifts! :-)
19:34 oleonard For instance, changing use of attr("checked") to prop("checked")
19:34 cait wb rangi :)
19:34 cait oleonard: if you could make a list - maybe on the wiki
19:34 rangi magnuse: hehe yep
19:35 cait we could divide work
19:35 cait i hope to have some more time to play soon :)
19:36 rangi hmm yeah
19:36 cait is this something that can g in step by step or a big swich thing?
19:37 cait or some so and so?
19:38 oleonard I think we might want to work it so that we do a step by step switch to facilitate thorough testing... Create a new include file that uses the new jQuery and use that on tested pages?
19:39 cait so page by page
19:40 oleonard That would be one way to do it. Probably better than all at once.
19:41 rangi yeah
19:42 oleonard
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19:44 cait hm maybe close-jquery-<version>.inc?
19:45 tcohen1 hi rangi, oleonard, cair
19:45 * tcohen unhides
19:46 rangi oh, i like having the version number in there
19:47 cait for the next 'new jquery' :)
19:49 oleonard I could probably spend 100% of my time upgrading jQuery, jQueryUI, and Bootstrap. By the time I'm done there will be a new version.
19:49 cait that's likely
19:51 cait oleonard: double negation on bug 10607?
19:51 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=10607 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, RESOLVED WONTFIX, JavaScript indexOf function not supported by IE 7 and 8
19:51 oleonard ?
19:52 oleonard Was my comment nonsensical?
19:52 oleonard Yes it was.
19:53 cait i think i got what you meant :)
19:55 tcohen barton: interesting
19:55 wahanui somebody said interesting was sometimes good and sometimes bad
19:56 barton tcohen: I'm planning on wrapping a shell function around that...
19:57 tcohen excellent
20:09 wizzyrea he
20:09 wizzyrea he
20:09 wizzyrea bah.
20:13 tcohen hi wizzyrea
20:13 wizzyrea that, yes.
20:14 wizzyrea hi
20:21 tcohen later #koha!
20:24 cait hi wizzyrea :)
20:28 wizzyrea hi cait
20:36 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 15736 [QA Followup] - Make add more details to the syspref description <[…]61e696b4b3685a737> / Bug 15736: Add ShowAllCheckins pref to control the display of checked-in item list... <[…]e71c695017dcb0fed> / Bug 15810: Make sure the CGI->param is not calle
20:39 cait bag++
20:39 bag not done with 15736 - need to do DBrev
20:51 eythian Hi
20:51 rangi heya eythian
20:51 wahanui eythian is probably Time's Person of the Year for 2006.
20:52 eythian Turns out I have no immunity to the local diseases. This is the third cold I've had since I've been here.
20:52 eythian Pls supply tissues.
20:53 rangi heh
20:53 eythian And meth so I can reverse it into pseudoephedrine.
20:54 rangi there was someone from the Netherlands at the Koha conclave, she works for Nedap
20:54 rangi doing RFID stuff
20:54 eythian Cool
20:54 rangi[…]rary-solutions-2/
20:54 cait guess all the germs didn#t make it to nz?
20:54 rangi she used the Rijksmuseum in her slides, but hadn't realised they use Koha
20:55 rangi so I think marcelr is going to get a phonecall from her :)
20:56 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Deleting the atomic update for bug Bug 15736 - Add a preference to control whether... <[…]daa5e7bfda5e9ac19> / Updating the DB Rev for Bug 15736 - Add a preference to control whether all items... <[…]98d81affafb8fddf9>
20:56 eythian cait: nope. I blame you, as a representative of Germany.
20:56 cait that's fair i guess
20:59 rangi heh
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21:06 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 15645: Remove the confusing wait var and use found instead <[…]06544198b3268423c> / Bug 15645 - In transit holds do not show as in transit on <[…]46baca2905a7ef3b1>
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21:11 Francesca morning
21:15 cait morning Franc
21:15 cait Francesca:
21:15 cait hm auto-complete-fail :)
21:17 Francesca hahaha
21:17 Francesca how are you cait?
21:18 cait i am good - and you? :)
21:19 eythian wahanui: outlook not so good is <reply>neither is Internet Explorer.
21:19 wahanui OK, eythian.
21:24 Francesca cait: I'm good, enjoying my last week of freedom before uni starts again
21:24 cait :)
21:24 cait so what are you doing today to celebrate the freedom?
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21:32 Francesca I have choir and a singing lesson
21:33 cait :)
22:02 gmcharlt @later tell oleonard I've sorted out the issue with the wiki
22:02 huginn gmcharlt: The operation succeeded.
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23:47 mtompset Francesca: What do you sing?
23:51 Francesca all sorts
23:51 Francesca but mainly classical
23:51 Francesca and choral
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