Time  Nick            Message
23:51 Francesca       and choral
23:51 Francesca       but mainly classical
23:51 Francesca       all sorts
23:47 mtompset        Francesca: What do you sing?
22:02 huginn          gmcharlt: The operation succeeded.
22:02 gmcharlt        @later tell oleonard I've sorted out the issue with the wiki
21:33 cait            :)
21:32 Francesca       I have choir and a singing lesson
21:24 cait            so what are you doing today to celebrate the freedom?
21:24 cait            :)
21:24 Francesca       cait: I'm good, enjoying my last week of freedom before uni starts again
21:19 wahanui         OK, eythian.
21:19 eythian         wahanui: outlook not so good is <reply>neither is Internet Explorer.
21:18 cait            i am good - and you? :)
21:17 Francesca       how are you cait?
21:17 Francesca       hahaha
21:15 cait            hm auto-complete-fail :)
21:15 cait            Francesca:
21:15 cait            morning Franc
21:11 Francesca       morning
21:06 huginn          New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 15645: Remove the confusing wait var and use found instead <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=d6dc21bc3c3f0a8fa66e66406544198b3268423c> / Bug 15645 - In transit holds do not show as in transit on request.pl <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=ff0843dca0cb3883a5ce51846baca2905a7ef3b1>
20:59 rangi           heh
20:56 cait            that's fair i guess
20:56 eythian         cait: nope. I blame you, as a representative of Germany.
20:56 huginn          New commit(s) kohagit: Deleting the atomic update for bug Bug 15736 - Add a preference to control whether... <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=15d2305caa1fde1caa0381ddaa5e7bfda5e9ac19> / Updating the DB Rev for Bug 15736 - Add a preference to control whether all items... <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=74dde4d2c6ce53345392ba498d81affafb8fddf9>
20:55 rangi           so I think marcelr is going to get a phonecall from her :)
20:54 rangi           she used the Rijksmuseum in her slides, but hadn't realised they use Koha
20:54 cait            guess all the germs didn#t make it to nz?
20:54 rangi           https://nedap.com/en/marktgroepen/library-solutions-2/
20:54 eythian         Cool
20:54 rangi           doing RFID stuff
20:54 rangi           there was someone from the Netherlands at the Koha conclave, she works for Nedap
20:53 eythian         And meth so I can reverse it into pseudoephedrine.
20:53 rangi           heh
20:52 eythian         Pls supply tissues.
20:52 eythian         Turns out I have no immunity to the local diseases. This is the third cold I've had since I've been here.
20:51 wahanui         eythian is probably Time's Person of the Year for 2006.
20:51 rangi           heya eythian
20:51 eythian         Hi
20:39 bag             not done with 15736 - need to do DBrev
20:39 cait            bag++
20:36 huginn          New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 15736 [QA Followup] - Make add more details to the syspref description <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=f92ef6207bc7346825f097f61e696b4b3685a737> / Bug 15736: Add ShowAllCheckins pref to control the display of checked-in item list... <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=ce6c3bb88b426b0d0b945b9e71c695017dcb0fed> / Bug 15810: Make sure the CGI->param is not calle
20:28 wizzyrea        hi cait
20:24 cait            hi wizzyrea :)
20:21 tcohen          later #koha!
20:14 wizzyrea        hi
20:13 wizzyrea        that, yes.
20:13 tcohen          hi wizzyrea
20:09 wizzyrea        bah.
20:09 wizzyrea        he
20:09 wizzyrea        he
19:57 tcohen          excellent
19:56 barton          tcohen: I'm planning on wrapping a shell function around that...
19:55 wahanui         somebody said interesting was sometimes good and sometimes bad
19:55 tcohen          barton: interesting
19:53 cait            i think i got what you meant :)
19:52 oleonard        Yes it was.
19:52 oleonard        Was my comment nonsensical?
19:51 oleonard        ?
19:51 huginn          04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10607 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, RESOLVED WONTFIX, JavaScript indexOf function not supported by IE 7 and 8
19:51 cait            oleonard: double negation on bug 10607?
19:49 cait            that's likely
19:49 oleonard        I could probably spend 100% of my time upgrading jQuery, jQueryUI, and Bootstrap. By the time I'm done there will be a new version.
19:47 cait            for the next 'new jquery' :)
19:46 rangi           oh, i like having the version number in there
19:45 * tcohen        unhides
19:45 tcohen1         hi rangi, oleonard, cair
19:44 cait            hm maybe close-jquery-<version>.inc?
19:42 oleonard        doc-head-close2.inc? doc-head-close-new-jquery.inc?
19:41 rangi           yeah
19:40 oleonard        That would be one way to do it. Probably better than all at once.
19:39 cait            so page by page
19:38 oleonard        I think we might want to work it so that we do a step by step switch to facilitate thorough testing... Create a new include file that uses the new jQuery and use that on tested pages?
19:37 cait            or some so and so?
19:36 cait            is this something that can g in step by step or a big swich thing?
19:36 rangi           hmm yeah
19:35 cait            i hope to have some more time to play soon :)
19:35 cait            we could divide work
19:34 rangi           magnuse: hehe yep
19:34 cait            oleonard: if you could make a list - maybe on the wiki
19:34 cait            wb rangi :)
19:34 oleonard        For instance, changing use of attr("checked") to prop("checked")
19:34 magnuse         those were some shiny speaker's gifts! :-)
19:33 magnuse         welcome back rangi!
19:33 oleonard        I think we're going to have to whittle down the issues raised in the upgrade guide which can be tackled pre-upgrade http://jquery.com/upgrade-guide/1.9/
19:33 rangi           and thanks
19:32 rangi           kinda both, but mostly OPAC
19:32 oleonard        rangi: For the staff client? Or opac? And hi rangi, welcome back!
19:31 rangi           yeah, I started on a bootstrap upgrade ... but realised jquery needs to go first
19:30 oleonard        I don't think we can think about adding Bootstrap 3 or 4 to the staff client until we do so.
19:28 oleonard        We really should upgrade jQuery, but where to begin? What a tangle.
19:22 * pianohacker   waves
19:16 * cait          waves
19:05 tcohen1         hi magnuse
19:02 magnuse         ¡hola tcohen!
17:54 oleonard        I would love to have syntax-highlighted code snippets in the wiki, but I guess I could settle for no JS errors.
17:42 mtompset        Do they support unicode extended characters? ;)
17:32 oleonard        Perhaps we should jump from horribly out-of-date grids in the staff client to cutting-edge: http://foundation.zurb.com/sites/docs/flex-grid.html
17:14 cait            bye all bbl
17:01 huginn          oleonard: The operation succeeded.
17:01 oleonard        @later tell gmcharlt Firebug shows JavaScript errors on the wiki. I think that is breaking some things, including the rich text editor.
16:52 oleonard        gmcharlt: Firebug shows JavaScript errors on the wiki. I think that is breaking some things, including the rich text editor.
16:43 oleonard        I'll let you know when I reach the bottom.
16:39 mtompset        oleonard: evil! :P
16:25 reiveune        bye
16:22 oleonard        I kept pressing the "[ + ]" to see more... http://zivotdesign.com/p/#1/14561581085824
15:33 barton          ^^ anyone who works a lot with zebra indexes will probably find this useful.
15:32 huginn          barton: The operation succeeded.
15:32 barton          @later tell tcohen I shimmed a koha-mysql and a bit of sed into your xsltproc / biblio.zebra.inexdedefs.xsl trick you showed me: see http://paste.koha-community.org/313
14:45 huginn          mtompset: Joubu was last seen in #koha 2 hours, 39 minutes, and 52 seconds ago: <Joubu> marcelr: DBrevs are numbered like that
14:45 mtompset        @seen Joubu
14:44 mtompset        Greetings, #koha.
14:38 oleonard        There it is.
14:38 huginn          04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=15879 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Needs Signoff , Allow multiple plugin directories to be defined in koha-conf.xml
14:38 oleonard        Bug 15879
14:37 cait            so happy this works now, even if i have to rewrite our docs heh :)
14:37 khall           nice
14:37 khall           hi!
14:37 cait            just documenting 'when to charge'
14:37 * cait          waves to khall
14:32 huginn          khall: The operation succeeded.
14:32 khall           @later tell tcohen bug 15879 may be of interest to you
14:31 LibraryClaire   :)
14:30 cait            yeah brrr
14:29 LibraryClaire   brrrrr
14:29 cait            i am writing a documentation about fines and notices... i have reached 8 pages...
14:23 kidclamp        I thought 'd10d!' was what you shout when score a critical roll in D&D
14:18 LibraryClaire   hehe
14:18 oleonard        if internationalization = i18n, disconnected = d10d?
14:16 LibraryClaire   sorry, disconnected
14:15 cait            what means dc/d?
14:15 cait            thx :)
14:15 cait            oh
14:15 cait            ?
14:15 LibraryClaire   cait: I think they may have dc/d
14:15 oleonard        Too late cait DD left
14:15 cait            how often does your message_queue cronjob run?
14:14 cait            that should not be necessary
14:14 cait            hm wait
14:14 cait            did you check the summary/digest checkbox in the message preferences?
14:06 DD              we are able to generate notices fo check-in but generates one notice per title for a borrower
14:05 DD              need help on notices
14:05 DD              Hi DD here
14:03 cait            i just think it might be possible to make it look a bit nicer
14:03 cait            already released with 3.22
14:02 oleonard        Is it a bug in testing or something which is in master already?
14:02 cait            :)
14:02 oleonard        I hate testing serials, but for you cait... Yes.
14:02 cait            subscription edit and summary
14:01 cait            oleonard: if you have a bit of time... could you take a look at the new extra fields for subscriptions style wise maybe?
14:01 cait            hi oleonard
13:55 LibraryClaire   hi oleonard
13:53 kidclamp        hi oleonard
13:45 oleonard        Hi #koha
13:13 huginn          04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=15877 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , C4::Barcodes  does not correctly calculate db_max for 'annual' barcodes
13:13 kidclamp        cait: bug 15877
13:06 kidclamp        the code I am trying to use seems broken, and isn't used elsehwere
13:06 kidclamp        hehe cait, I am filing a bug right now
13:05 bob_            cait: thanks, that makes sense
13:05 cait            i am too odl for change :P
13:05 cait            kidclamp: i am still confused
13:05 cait            morning kidclamp
13:04 cait            bob_: for searching - check the about koha page - tab system information for clues
13:04 cait            bob_: for merging it will probably be enough if you change the items with the batch edit tool and eventually patrons.. and then you can delete the branch
13:03 francharb       Morning
13:01 kidclamp        Yeah, changed my handle, confused many :-)
12:58 marcelr         you should be nick according to the wiki :) did not know that
12:57 kidclamp        hi marcelr
12:56 marcelr         hi kidclamp
12:56 kidclamp        morning koha
12:37 bob_            I can't seem to google this one because of all the references to git branches
12:33 bob_            btw, is there a way of merging library branches? Looks like someone in the past made "oldlibrary" and "newlibrary" for no particular reason
12:27 bob_            and by "the rest" I mean the actual books - I still can't search, but that's probably something I've done wrong
12:26 bob_            they probably just had a custom logo for the club or something, but I'll check once I've got the rest working
12:25 cait            you might want to check on the old system how your custom template was different... it's not done very often
12:25 bob_            now works without that symlink
12:24 bob_            cait: thanks :)
12:24 bob_            ah yes, it was set to default
12:23 cait            you might have to check in the db - because the pull down in koha only has one value and it wouldn't show a customone
12:23 cait            it's template and opacthemes - intranet should be 'template' and be set to 'prog'
12:22 cait            you can check your *theme* preferences
12:22 cait            http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=tree;f=koha-tmpl/intranet-tmpl;h=2da62b8cf0b7b27b381bb65240029797c2b6e4a0;hb=43bcc1c42cd347ab1565b27038ec3350a1ecf94f
12:21 bob_            not unless that is somehow defined in the database. The only thing I brought across from the old install is the db
12:21 cait            for the intranet - the one for opac is bootstrap
12:21 cait            normally all the interesting files are in intranaet-tmpl/prog - with prog being koha's default templates
12:20 cait            bob_: is it possible that you have custom templates?
12:08 bob_            any thoughts on the other thing? Without that symlink I had no intranet styles and I couldn't do things like searching patrons
12:07 bob_            will do
12:06 marcelr         h->th
12:06 marcelr         it is worh reporting
12:06 marcelr         np
12:06 bob_            sorry to cause confusion with version numbers there
12:05 marcelr         ok
12:05 bob_            yeah 3.19.00.003
12:05 marcelr         he means 3.xx.19
12:05 Joubu           marcelr: DBrevs are numbered like that
12:04 marcelr         3.19 is a development number
12:04 * bob_          checks
12:04 bob_            (at least, iirc it was 3.19)
12:04 marcelr         hm bob_ that sounds like a new bug report
12:03 bob_            Joubu: there was one point I couldn't quite believe it didn't stop - version 3.19 where it tells you that you need to manually edit the db to make userid in borrowers unique. Subsequent updates rely on this having been done
12:03 cait            that's not a standard path i think
12:03 cait            hm  /usr/share/koha/intranet/htdocs/intranet-tmpl/default  is odd
12:01 cait            i did... but not sure I should :)
12:01 marcelr         you should eat, cait :)
12:01 bob_            yes I read that in a few of the bug reports I came across
12:01 cait            marcelr: sorry, was at lunch
12:00 Joubu           and yes it's a mess when something really bad happens :-/
12:00 Joubu           yes, the updatedb continues even if an error is occurred, that's the expected behaviour
12:00 bob_            for the record: new install from packages, clean debian install, old db, new config files
11:59 bob_            the database upgrade thing was the most annoying because it would just charge ahead with a broken database, changing the database version regardless, which made it a PITA to re-run the script
11:58 bob_            Joubu: a few database upgrade bugs, mostly due to the upgrade script not stopping when something fails. The other was an incorrect reference to /usr/share/koha/intranet/htdocs/intranet-tmpl/default which I had to symlink to /usr/share/koha/intranet/htdocs/intranet-tmpl/prog
11:56 Joubu           bob_: what kind of bugs did you find?
11:55 bob_            Joubu: ta
11:55 Joubu           certainly, yes
11:55 marcelr         rebase_party?
11:55 Joubu           bob_: on the bug tracker: https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/enter_bug.cgi
11:55 marcelr         ok, looking forward to that
11:54 Joubu           http://irc.koha-community.org/koha/2016-02-19#i_1791403
11:54 Joubu           marcelr: I have asked bag on Friday
11:51 marcelr         when will they be pushed?
11:50 bob_            I've just been upgrading a 3.02.03 database to latest and have found a few things
11:50 marcelr         111 bugs in PQA
11:49 bob_            can anyone tell me the quickest and easiest way of submitting koha bug reports?
11:48 bob_            ahoy
11:37 drojf           hei magnuse
11:36 magnuse         moin drojf
11:35 drojf           hi #koha
10:59 huginn          04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=14457 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, eivin, Failed QA , Integrate LIBRIS spellchecking
10:59 marcelr         cait: your comment on bug 14457 is what I was thinking too
10:29 huginn          04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=3248 normal, P3, ---, paul.poulain, NEW , CIRC Sys Preference - FinesMode  "test" incorrect
10:29 cait            bug 3248 indicates it might not
10:29 cait            hm wondering if the third option for finesmode is functional
10:27 marcelr         :)
10:27 cait            hi marcelr
10:26 marcelr         hi #koha
10:00 LibraryClaire   back in a bit :)
09:56 magnuse         bad hols
09:46 ashimema        the two overlap the hols exactly.
09:46 ashimema        yup
09:45 cait            ?
09:45 cait            ashimema: same for the Berlin hackfestß
09:37 * magnuse       will probably miss out too
09:27 LibraryClaire   :D
09:27 ashimema        cait will look after you I'm sure though LibraryClaire :)
09:27 LibraryClaire   yeeeeeah...
09:26 ashimema        school hols is not a good time for a conference when you have kids ;)
09:26 LibraryClaire   aw :(
09:26 * ashimema      wishes he could come to kohacon :(
09:25 * LibraryClaire waves
09:25 cait            morning ashimema
09:25 huginn          ashimema: The current temperature in Stevenage, England, Stevenage, United Kingdom is 6.0°C (9:25 AM GMT on February 22, 2016). Conditions: Light Rain. Humidity: 87%. Dew Point: 4.0°C. Windchill: 6.0°C. Pressure: 29.77 in 1008 hPa (Steady).
09:25 ashimema        @wunder stevenage, uk
09:24 LibraryClaire   :D
09:23 cait            I think there are at least 4 Koha libraries there that I know about - seems like a good start :)
09:22 LibraryClaire   oooh, yes
09:22 cait            sometime
09:22 cait            we shoudl have kohacon in wien :)
09:22 cait            :(
09:20 LibraryClaire   both places I've not visited and no time to stop :(
09:18 LibraryClaire   I fly out through Wien and back through Zurich
09:17 cait            one of the nicest
09:17 LibraryClaire   ooh, good :)
09:17 LibraryClaire   yeah, makes sense
09:17 cait            takes about an hour by train and zürich airport is like... super clean
09:16 LibraryClaire   I was trying to figure out the geography
09:16 LibraryClaire   aaaah, I see
09:16 cait            zürich is the closest airport from here - we are directly at the swiss border
09:14 LibraryClaire   oh, cool
09:14 cait            ok, so it's exactly the same flight then :)
09:13 LibraryClaire   it's half term week so direct flights are hideously expensive that week
09:13 LibraryClaire   no, going back via Zurich
09:13 LibraryClaire   haha, I wish
09:12 cait            but yours is directly to london?
09:12 LibraryClaire   yeah!
09:12 cait            oh flight at the same time :)
09:12 LibraryClaire   haha
09:12 LibraryClaire   thanks for the help :)
09:12 cait            asked you ... and then 2 secs later so the changes to the wiki page .)
09:12 cait            cool!
09:12 LibraryClaire   yes, I got a password over the weekend :D
09:11 cait            any luck with the wiki so far?
09:11 cait            morning LibraryClaire :)
08:58 huginn          LibraryClaire: The current temperature in Chilworth, Chilworth, United Kingdom is 8.7°C (8:58 AM GMT on February 22, 2016). Conditions: Light Drizzle. Humidity: 88%. Dew Point: 7.0°C. Windchill: 9.0°C. Pressure: 29.80 in 1009 hPa (Steady).
08:58 LibraryClaire   @wunder guildford, uk
08:51 huginn          magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 1.0°C (9:20 AM CET on February 22, 2016). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 56%. Dew Point: -7.0°C. Windchill: -5.0°C. Pressure: 29.12 in 986 hPa (Steady).
08:51 magnuse         @wunder boo
08:51 * magnuse       waves again
08:38 LibraryClaire   morning cait :)
08:34 cait            hi all
08:16 LibraryClaire   hello
08:13 Joubu           hi
08:09 alex_a          bonjour
08:08 reiveune        hello
08:02 LibraryClaire   morning #koha
07:34 * cait          waves and runs off - bbiab
06:58 * magnuse       waves
03:52 Amit_Gupta      hi rangi
03:05 huginn          wizzyrea: Quote #123: "rangi: #thingsihavelearnt if there is a mad scheme a library somewhere will be doing it ... except madder" (added by wizzyrea at 09:20 PM, March 30, 2011)
03:05 wahanui         http://xkcd.com/1172/
03:05 wizzyrea        @quote get 123