Time Nick Message 00:49 mtompset Greetings, #koha. 00:49 mtompset Francesca: I sang in my univeristy choir a LONG time ago. It was an easy 1/4 credit. :) 00:49 Francesca lol 01:53 mtj heya mtompset, what kind of tunes? ^ 02:00 mtompset Choral stuff that I would never remember. 02:00 mtompset :) 02:11 mtj i recently discovered this stuff. -> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sean-n%C3%B3s_song 02:14 mtj i think i can heard its influence in Sinéad O'Connor :) 02:14 mtj heh, can heard 02:17 mtj "Enhancing a sense of continuity such as by filling the gap between phrases with a nasalised drone" 02:29 * mtj wasnt suggesting she had a 'nasalised drone', nor that there is anything wrong with that :) 02:40 mtompset Chacun son gout. -- Any french speakers, pardon my horrible French. 02:40 mtompset (Each to his own taste) 02:41 mtompset Strange how foreign languages sit in your head for ages, and you don't think of them until your response comes out in that language. 02:41 mtompset Having been in the Philippines, my mushy romantic side tends to have Filipino expressions. 08:06 gaetan_B hello 08:06 wahanui privet, gaetan_B 08:07 reiveune hello 08:07 wahanui hey, reiveune 08:38 * magnuse waves 11:14 balvis can anyone please help me in issuing reminders in koha? 11:14 balvis the patron must me sent an email regarding overdue 11:14 drojf hi #koha 11:42 octo19 Hi folks, I'm trying to install fresh Koha on Debian 8 with no success. The error is "no installation candidate" for at least 50 Koha dependancies. The issue seems to be stuck with perl/CPAN. I'm in need of a perl/CPAN repo. Thoughts? Advice? Thanks! 11:43 bob_ octo19: sounds like your apt sources might be set up wrong. Also, did you do an apt-get update? 11:44 octo19 bob_ you are probably correct. I have done apt-get update several times. I've also tried adding all 3 of the Debian CDROMs as repos without success. 11:44 bob_ yeah don't use the cdroms, use internet mirrors 11:45 bob_ http://debgen.simplylinux.ch/ is handy for this 11:46 bob_ actually that site looks to be having problems at the moment 11:46 bob_ try http://www.debianadmin.com/debian-sources-list-generator.html 11:46 octo19 Yea I tried that last week without success. I'll try the second one you sent. 11:47 bob_ blah, that just links to the first one 11:47 bob_ which country are you in? 11:48 octo19 Yes haha. 11:48 octo19 Spain 11:50 cait packages? 11:50 wahanui packages is at http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Debian 11:50 cait best is to follow this 11:51 cait you don't need any dependencies from CPAN 11:51 octo19 that's what I'm using 11:51 cait it will all be installed with installing koha-common 11:51 cait then what's in your host? 11:51 cait are you using stable? 11:52 octo19 cait I'm doing 'apt-get install koha-common' without success. 11:52 octo19 yes I'm using stable. 11:52 bob_ octo19: your apt-sources list should look something like http://pastebin.com/tJt27tfh . Then follow instructions at https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Koha_on_Debian 11:52 cait what is the entry in your koha.list file? 11:52 octo19 I've also tried 'apt-get install -f' without success 11:53 octo19 bob_ my source list looks just like that and I'm following those instructions 11:54 cait can you paste what is in your koha.list file? 11:54 octo19 cait where can I find that file? Google didn 11:54 octo19 didn't tell me 11:54 cait it's in the instructions 11:54 cait /etc/apt/sources.list.d/koha.list 11:55 * cait waves at bob_ - any luck with your search problem? 11:56 octo19 cait the koha.list file doesn't exist on my machine...hmm...thoughts? 11:56 bob_ cait: nup, I came here to ask another question actually. The old database had everything stored as usmarc - is there anything I have to do to make that work? 11:56 cait octo19: yep, start from the beginning of the instructions again 11:56 cait something has not gone right 11:57 cait bob_: usmarc and marc21 are very similar/the same - it's probably not a problem 11:58 cait as long as you didn>'t install with unimarc :) 11:58 bob_ I can't get yaz to give me any results though 11:58 cait hm 11:58 cait maybe check if your zebrasrv process is running 11:58 bob_ yep, done that 11:58 bob_ I can connect with yaz 11:58 cait oh 11:58 cait did you index? 11:59 cait after moving the data to the new server? 11:59 bob_ with `koha-rebuild-zebra -f -v unisfa'? yes 11:59 cait hm 12:00 cait and that returend no problems? 12:01 bob_ there was one warning that I didn't get any google luck from, I'll rerun to grab it again 12:01 bob_ 20:01:04-23/02 zebraidx(1006) [warn] Record didn't contain match fields in (bib1,Local-number) 12:02 octo19 cait you were correct; I started from the top and now the koha.list file is happy. However, I still have unmet dependancies. apt-get install -f does not work. 12:03 cait so what does it tell you? 12:03 cait bob_: you came from a really old koha version, right? 12:03 bob_ yeah 12:03 bob_ version 3 I think 12:04 octo19 cait "Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages." 12:04 cait there can be a problem with zebra if your records don't have a unique bilbionumber... but you imported them using the koha import tools i think... so not sure what could go wrong there 12:04 cait did you change anything in the configuration about the mappngs? 12:04 cait octo19: what's in your koha.list file? 12:04 octo19 cait only the koha repo 12:05 cait which one? 12:05 wahanui well, which one is t? 12:05 cait can you paste the line? 12:05 octo19 deb http://debian.koha-community.org/koha stable main 12:06 cait hm and you ran duso apt-get update? 12:06 octo19 ues 12:06 octo19 yes* 12:06 cait sorry, i am out of ideas 12:06 cait it shoudl work 12:06 bob_ cait: do you mean config via administration or config via koha-conf? 12:07 cait via administration 12:07 bob_ octo19: that error can be caused by pinned packages or apt-preferences 12:07 cait oh, and did you check the about page - system information tab for clues? 12:07 octo19 cait thanks for your help. 12:07 octo19 bob_ how can I check that? 12:07 bob_ yes I did and that only had a trivial thing about currencies not set. Fixed that and now it's blank 12:08 cait sorry, out of ideas :( maybe ty the mailing list 12:08 bob_ octo19: check /etc/apt/preferences and anything in /etc/apt/preferences.d/ 12:09 bob_ cait: thanks for trying 12:09 cait it's probably something small 12:09 cait it always is 12:10 octo19 bob_ /etc/apt/preferences doesn't exist and /preferences.d is empty. 12:13 bob_ octo19: first undo whatever you've done with installing packages before (eg apt-get remove --purge koha-common) and make sure you can install standard debian packages. Don't bother trying to install koha-common until you've made apt happy 12:14 bob_ anyway, this is getting messy...pm me 12:14 bob_ cait: what does the "base" command in yaz-client do? 12:31 cait bob_: sorry, yaz and me are not really friends 12:31 cait have you checked the wiki for instructions? 12:33 bob_ yeah nothing more than "base biblios" 12:34 gaetan_B Hi magnuse, it seems we're going to meet in the far north pretty soon :) 12:34 bob_ and the yaz client manual is about as helpful 12:34 cait bibios is the db name i think 12:34 cait from your koha-conf file 12:35 cait not the mysql db 12:35 cait i might be confusing things, but i am quite sure it comes from the config in koha-conf 12:39 Joubu base will select the zebra db to use 12:39 Joubu defaults are biblios and authorities 12:39 cait thx Joubu 12:39 Joubu cf koha-conf.xml, section server 12:39 cait i started to feel a bit lonely here :) 12:41 bob_ Joubu: as in server id=<blah> ? 12:42 oleonard Hi #koha 12:42 Joubu bob_: you have server id="biblioserver" 12:42 Joubu and later, a serverInfo tag 12:42 Joubu with host, port and database 12:45 bob_ ah yes 13:13 bob_ okay, if someone who's seen a few more zebra reindexes than me could take a look at these it would be great 13:13 bob_ reindex job: http://pastebin.com/nYU9CWyd 13:13 bob_ sample output: http://pastebin.com/8UEuwewz 13:15 bob_ I also just noticed there's two entries with 090c = 1, is that likely to break things on the koha end? 13:26 oleonard I'd love to hear opinions about Bug 15883 13:26 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=15883 normal, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, NEW , Upgrade jQuery from v1.7.2 in the staff client 13:27 oleonard I think it's a workable plan, but I'm not sure about the git history issue. 13:35 cait oleonard++ 13:40 oleonard Who's our Datatables colVis expert? 13:40 oleonard Bug 15674 13:40 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=15674 normal, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , 'Show/hide columns' is not translatable 13:42 oleonard Seems like it's potentially a simple fix to move that button text into a place where it will get translated. Simple for a colVis expert anyway. 13:48 LibraryClaire afternoon #koha 14:07 oleonard @later tell rangi I've been getting intermittent errors from Bugzilla. Have you noticed anything on your end? 14:07 huginn oleonard: The operation succeeded. 14:10 nengard morning all 14:11 oleonard Hi nengard 14:15 cait Joubu: could you take a look at bug 15674 maybe? 14:15 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=15674 normal, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , 'Show/hide columns' is not translatable 14:15 cait and oleonard++ :) 14:16 talljoy has dcook had his baby yet? all i see on facebook is him posting random *non baby* links. 14:16 talljoy his wife is in labor! I want updates. :-D 14:16 cait i think in march 14:17 cait or did i miss something? 14:17 talljoy according to the source of all news (facebook) her water broke like a day or so ago 14:17 cait i put march in my calendar... at least a while ago 14:17 cait oh wow 14:17 oleonard talljoy: I know, right?! 14:17 talljoy srsly 14:17 oleonard *non baby* links!! 14:17 talljoy i don't care about the prime minister of canada 14:17 cait maybe just too busy? 14:17 talljoy WHERE IS THE BABY 14:17 cait heh 14:18 cait [off] i need for someone tofind out about his postal address 14:18 talljoy [off] we are librarians...one of surely can track this down. maybe bob birchall knows? 14:18 cait hm good thought 14:19 cait [off] i can try emailing him about it 14:32 drojf lol 14:35 drojf talljoy: i hear you will tell me all about BIBFRAME? i booked a flight to rome this morning :) 14:35 talljoy yay! 14:35 drojf my first question is, has the name BIBFRAME to be shouted outside of the internet too? 14:36 talljoy It will change your life. 14:36 drojf that will be one loud workshop 14:36 talljoy it will be a rowdy time... 14:36 talljoy we could just starting going with the triple prefix of bf: that will be quieter.... 14:37 drojf heh 14:39 drojf [off] apparently italy has a lot of places with gluten free food. much easier than berlin… 14:39 talljoy excellent! brendan is on a quest to find the perfect gnocchi. you two may not be sharing many meals then. ;-) 14:39 talljoy i'm after the wine....i'm safe eating anywhere. lol 14:41 drojf [off] i actually have gluten free gnocchi from italy here, so that should be doable ;) 14:41 drojf the wine part is also important :D 14:46 oleonard With the new audio alerts system, it supposed to be possible to define multiple sounds for a particular selector? 14:46 oleonard If not, I don't understand the "precedence" setting. 14:46 oleonard khall? 14:46 wahanui rumour has it khall is volunteering to come over and fix it for you, it seems. ;) 14:47 cait i think the one that applies first 14:47 cait for overlapping definitions? 14:47 cait did you check the help page? i think i read something there about the precedence 14:47 oleonard Good thinking. 14:48 oleonard I guess precedence applies when more than one selector is on the page. So really it shouldn't be possible to define multiple sounds for one selector? 14:48 cait that's my guess 14:59 tcohen morning 15:17 * oleonard welcomes tcohen clone tcohen1 15:17 * oleonard wonders how many clones are in this series... tcohen500? 15:26 tcohen clone wars 15:29 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 15643 - Every datepicker on serials expected date column updates top issue <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=4c6214f5c943d8c2f12e7cf84c3965ddc4778956> 15:39 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: DBRev for Bug 13534 - Deleting staff patron will delete tags approved by this patron <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=a66674a96484124b69d627f6e2e081debafa4a6c> / Bug 13534: Do not remove tags on deleting a patron <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=fb419ba83d8c7b6bf710b42ad3fe61701809fc0e> 15:50 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: DBRev for Bug 13534 [Followup] - Remove tabs and atomic update file <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=c00169e536780bb371351fab8fdd119718145fcd> 16:52 reiveune bye 17:06 gaetan_B bye 17:43 oleonard Bug 15886 makes me feel like a busybody, but I think it is a good improvement. I hope you don't mind khall. 17:43 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=15886 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Needs Signoff , Revise layout and behavior of audio alerts management 17:44 khall oleonard: not at all! I'm no ui wizard so I always appreciate ui improvements ; ) 17:44 khall I'll have to check it out 17:47 cait overdue_notices.pl is about to make me cry :( 17:47 pianohacker it does that to people 17:47 nengard oh no 17:47 cait the fines work just like they shoudl in my testing... but i can't manage to make the right books show up in the overdue notices 17:48 cait i have a grace period of 3 17:48 cait so say we ignore the calendar 17:48 cait and i set the delay to 3 17:48 cait say i just set the delay to three, completely independent from the grace period... 17:49 cait why woudl it list the item with the due date from yesterday in the overdue notice? 17:49 cait and only this item 17:49 cait although i have one item checked out for every day from today to ... january 17:49 cait it makes no sense 17:51 pianohacker cait: are you running it in triggered mode or no? 17:51 cait -t 17:52 cait tested both... both make no sense, but ultimately i want -t 17:55 cait i want it to list the item s that are overdue from 3 days onward to the next delay value 17:55 cait like it did in 3.18 18:07 cait pianohacker: it's me 18:07 cait stupid configuration mistake 18:10 cait now it's happy tears... all working :) 18:16 cait pianohacker++ thx for listening :) 18:16 cait bye all! 19:17 rangi oleonard: just the usual bots/search engines agressively spidering it, probably maxing connections 19:18 oleonard Thanks for looking rangi. The errors on my end are never informative. 19:24 * cait waves 19:33 kathryn morning 19:38 cait oleonard: hm i have another with for the item search management form 19:38 cait can we get rid of the pull downs? 19:39 cait i filed a bug - for example we use upper case subfields in items and it's not possible to confiugre that 19:41 oleonard I suppose we could replace them with text fields... I wonder what kind of validation we can provide 19:41 cait i think for the field three numbers should work 19:42 oleonard And one character for subfields? 19:42 cait maybe we could just check for a single character and 3 characters? 19:42 cait would work for me 19:43 cait trying to find the bugreport 19:43 cait bug 15384 19:43 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=15384 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , Items search fields: Change pull downs to input fields 19:44 cait and with was supposed to be wish... ) 19:59 oleonard You wish is my command cait 19:59 * oleonard waves goodbye 19:59 cait oh 19:59 cait now i missed him 20:10 cait oleonard++ ... all the patches 20:51 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 15785 - Use Font Awesome icons in confirmation dialogs <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=5939c4b2333925f71ededff450e9ea9a8eb5ab26> 21:01 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 15756: Some tests for haspermission in C4::Auth <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=1cb371689da5192caa529149a39c7a4389f056e4> / Bug 15764: Fix timestamp sent by KOCT <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=0987165d6aab0951259b2101c2133ae4c221357b> / Bug 15790 - Don't delete a MARC framework if existing records use that framework <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/ 21:03 tcohen1 "Can't locate Authen/CAS/Client/Response/Failure.pm" 21:03 tcohen1 anyone? 21:03 wahanui anyone is free to organize one at any time :-) 21:04 cait hm when and where? 21:04 tcohen fresh packages install (3.22), enabling plack 21:05 tcohen Joubu mentioned this error, constrained to kohadevbox:ansible a while back 21:05 tcohen i'm puzzled no one has raised it before (we have 3.22.3 lready! 21:19 rangi Hmm I havent bumped into it, and I have a few 3.22 running 21:20 tcohen its a bug in libauthen-cas-client-perl I think 21:20 tcohen it is looking for Authen/CAS/Client/Response/Failure.pm 21:20 tcohen which is not shipped 21:20 rangi ahh maybe only shows if you have cas turned on? 21:20 tcohen no, this is just a clean install for testing purposes 21:21 tcohen have you tried on debian 8? with plack? 21:21 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 15746: Same fix for "write off" <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=efad45a0e39703017a894d3ffdd1a7078d13af60> / Bug 15746: Do not record individual payments with randomly picked libraries <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=80a690588ceac464891dcb2956c3b148433a253c> 21:21 rangi hmm, probably not with plack 21:21 tcohen ah, exactly 21:22 tcohen it does happen with plack only 21:22 tcohen rangi: how are you doing btw? 21:22 tcohen :-D 21:22 rangi not too bad, a bit tired, but otherwsie ok, how about you? 21:24 tcohen tired, trying to catch up, finally 21:24 tcohen :-D 21:29 bag yeah trying to catch up - sounds familiar 21:31 tcohen hi bag 21:31 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 15742 [QA Followup] - Tidy script <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=0277c545b0369046e3d2785689ea52b99d84962f> / Bug 15742: Remove unnecessary loop in j2a cronjob <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=cf047247893b04de820ff51e9b2d8f43773af332> 21:31 tcohen later #koha 21:41 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 12051: Adds a Renew tab to the staff client <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=e93ffac3f1dd92a1fa5e10dd52cffcaa5a1c2192> / Bug 15730 - 500 error on returns.pl if barcode doesn't exist <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=27231db75d222ac0dad655e8e8b918afac9477ec> 22:21 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 15833: item.biblioitemnumber returns a biblioitem DBIx::Class object <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=1302f91755012d9d31e87b037cb882bc025b357f> / DBRev Bug 6624 - Allow Koha to use the new read API from OpenLibrary <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=53213496d2d27c2f3038e7b0b4238f62350967f7> / Bug 6624: Add test for OpenLibrary <http://git.koha-community.org/g 22:42 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 15706: (follow-up) Changing to circulate_remaining_permissions <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=a382c8c1cb10687117083be29478a246859daf07> / Bug 15706: Changing to circulate_remaining_permissions <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=f4bcd98d9a2eab285b0280b4eae77987e053fcf3> 22:52 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 15670 - Rename "Cancel" to "Cancel hold" when checking in a waiting item <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=d9dc8be41780c3a4332f2fd50f80961d1653c49e> / Bug 15691: Show card number minimum and maximum in visible hint when adding a patron <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=9f172a3c1bc8c7cd1664eabac81c5b66877b3952> 23:02 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 15663: Fix 'remove selected items', add a 'delete batch' button <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=4bf881d32c41b54357949e4d37b1401b1324bc8e> 23:12 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 15605: Remove the cursor:pointer style. <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=effe1e27819a3b7d156e4abf5c96dd34d529246f> / Bug 15605 - Accessibility: Can't tab to add link in serials routing list add user... <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=c76549dd7b4a090844a5a51664409417f9838923> / Bug 15657 (follow-up bug 15501): add missing semi-colon <http://git.koha-communi 23:16 bag oh rangi you’ve got a few running 3.22 already? nice. Are they noticing a good change with plack ? 23:17 rangi it's not running plack 23:17 bag ah 23:17 rangi will switch it on at some point, but haven't tested it enough to do it in production yet 23:17 bag so no notice :) 23:17 bag heh 23:18 rangi we have other sites running in plack 23:18 rangi but not using the method in 3.22 23:22 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 15514: Fix error with certain repeatable fields in Rancor <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=53a081278d505b76efbd7c08dbe7d45649779740> / DBRev for Bug 15517 - Tables borrowers and deletedborrowers differ again <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=e061b2b65cd0cfa1f9e1b51e9d7ea0550c2b6a4f> / Bug 15517: Change wording for tests <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/ 23:32 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 15479 [QA Followup] - Tidy sub to remove tabs causing qa script to fail <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=d268d428fd984aeb76f617e0e93ef6fdea543230> / Bug 15479 Add tests for ILS.pm <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=df4b1552211aae130b2ac31b44f45892c342e28c> / Bug 15479 Make ILS cardnumber comparison case insensitive <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koh