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dcook |
Interesting... |
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wahanui |
somebody said interesting was sometimes good and sometimes bad |
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wizzyrea |
@wunder nzwn |
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huginn |
wizzyrea: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 18.0°C (1:00 PM NZDT on February 10, 2016). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 73%. Dew Point: 13.0°C. Pressure: 29.95 in 1014 hPa (Steady). |
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wizzyrea |
^ that's the most perfect weather ever. |
| 00:16 |
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dcook |
So DateTime::Format::MySQL requires DateTime 1 but DateTime 1 is only in Jessie? |
| 00:16 |
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dcook |
Did the Koha community package that.. |
| 00:16 |
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wizzyrea |
they're making you make it work on squeeze aren't they |
| 00:16 |
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wizzyrea |
nopetopus |
| 00:16 |
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wahanui |
http://reactiongif.org/wp-cont[…]-run-away-GIF.gif |
| 00:16 |
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wizzyrea |
this way lies madness |
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dcook |
I'm seeing how far I can get, so that I can tell them why it's not going to work |
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wizzyrea |
"it's not supported" is the only answer they need |
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dcook |
We don't all have that option :p |
| 00:17 |
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wizzyrea |
of course you do! |
| 00:18 |
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wizzyrea |
it's not supported, full stop. |
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dcook |
Yeah, I suppose |
| 00:18 |
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dcook |
I suppose all our non-Debian systems are much more modern which is why they do work |
| 00:18 |
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dcook |
I was thinking about that this morning though.. |
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wizzyrea |
you do have to upgrade them |
| 00:18 |
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wizzyrea |
for them to be modern. |
| 00:18 |
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dcook |
How many people in Squeeze will have auto-upgrades that break their system? |
| 00:19 |
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wizzyrea |
squeeze isn't supported anymore that I know of |
| 00:19 |
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dcook |
It's sort of LTS for Debian |
| 00:19 |
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dcook |
Because so many people were/are using it |
| 00:19 |
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wizzyrea |
"sort of" isn't good enough for a production system |
| 00:19 |
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dcook |
Tell that to most of the world :p |
| 00:19 |
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dcook |
I totally agree though |
| 00:19 |
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dcook |
Totally not good enough |
| 00:19 |
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wizzyrea |
These same people are probably still running windows XP |
| 00:20 |
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wizzyrea |
it's not supported either |
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dcook |
Almost without a doubt |
| 00:20 |
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dcook |
That one is extra scary I think |
| 00:20 |
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dcook |
I'm not even going to go into all the Windows XP systems I see in the wild which are could end so badly.. |
| 00:20 |
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dcook |
I'm still curious as to how DateTime::Format::MySQL could be functional on Debian Wheezy though |
| 00:21 |
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dcook |
Wth.. |
| 00:21 |
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dcook |
So this is a wheezy system I have: |
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dcook |
DateTime 0.75 0.58 Yes |
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dcook |
DateTime::Event::ICal 0.10 0.08 Yes |
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dcook |
DateTime::Format::ICal 0.09 0.09 Yes |
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dcook |
DateTime::Format::MySQL 0.04 0.04 Yes |
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dcook |
DateTime::Set 0.31 0.28 Yes |
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dcook |
DateTime::TimeZone 1.58 1.20 Yes |
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dcook |
Heres's the error on Squeeze: |
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dcook |
DateTime version 1 required--this is only version 0.61 at /usr/local/share/perl/5.10.1/DateTime/Format/Strptime.pm line 8. |
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dcook |
DateTime version 1 required--this is only version 0.61 at /usr/local/share/perl/5.10.1/DateTime/Format/Builder.pm line 11. |
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mtompset |
Greetings, #koha. |
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wizzyrea |
hm, what do you all think about options for the cronjobs to quiet any non-function-related messages from the cronjobs |
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wizzyrea |
I'm thinking of advanced notices, for example |
| 02:47 |
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wizzyrea |
"you do not have the enhanced messaging preference turned on" |
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wizzyrea |
what if you are a library who doesn't have that on, will never have that on |
| 02:47 |
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wizzyrea |
of course you can disable the job entirely |
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wizzyrea |
that's easy enough |
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wizzyrea |
but |
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wizzyrea |
what if then someday someone turns it on on a whim, and wonders why it's not working? |
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wizzyrea |
they have to hassle the sysadmin, who was annoyed by the messages |
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wizzyrea |
and so turned off the job. |
| 02:49 |
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wizzyrea |
I think we should just be able to quiet messages like that |
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wizzyrea |
i.e. 'yes, I heard you, now be quiet." |
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ibeardslee |
call it the "Yes Dear" module? |
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wizzyrea |
hehe |
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wizzyrea |
sure |
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mtompset |
"Yes Dear" +1 |
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drojf |
morning #koha |
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mtompset |
Greetings, d - Oh. Missed him. :( |
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mtompset |
Have a great day (24 hour period), wizzyrea ibeardslee dac bshum kmlussier #koha |
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drojf |
morning again ;) |
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cait |
morning #koha |
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cait |
bbiab |
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lds |
hello |
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reiveune |
hello |
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wahanui |
privet, reiveune |
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alex_a |
bonjour |
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wahanui |
hola, alex_a |
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* magnuse |
forgot to wave earlier, waves now |
| 08:12 |
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drojf |
hei magnuse |
| 08:13 |
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drojf |
look what i found |
| 08:13 |
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drojf |
Wellington - Melbourne - London - Thessaloniki; 27 May 17:00 --> 29 may 13:20 [53:20h]; 1700€ |
| 08:13 |
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drojf |
Wellington - Brisbane - Abu Dhabi - Berlin; 23 May 15:00 --> 24 May 13:40 [32:40h]; 755€ |
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drojf |
it looks like coming from NZ to greece and not going to berlin would be a really bad idea :P |
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drojf |
(cheapest connections i found. you can easily pay >7000€ from wellington to thessaloniki, wtf) |
| 08:17 |
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drojf |
seems to be cheaper from US too, but only a little |
| 08:18 |
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Joubu |
o/ |
| 08:18 |
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drojf |
morning Joubu |
| 08:18 |
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Joubu |
morning drojf |
| 08:20 |
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drojf |
but from australia it's kind of the same going to berlin or directly to thessaloniki. flight prices are weird |
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magnuse |
yeah, booking flights is weird |
| 08:33 |
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cait |
drojf: you shoudl send that to the nzers :) |
| 08:35 |
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drojf |
i feel like a spammer already. but maybe i will :D |
| 08:35 |
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drojf |
hi cait |
| 08:36 |
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drojf |
from the wiki (Koha_Conference_Bidding): "Rule the First: New Zealand ought hold right of first refusal for Conferences falling during Anniversary years (10th, 15th, 25th, et cetera). " |
| 08:36 |
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drojf |
looks like we missed that. but nz should do another kohacon |
| 08:36 |
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drojf |
so i can go there too |
| 08:36 |
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drojf |
:P |
| 08:37 |
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drojf |
now that i know it's ~750€ to get there from here. that i way less than i expected |
| 08:38 |
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drojf |
*is |
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cait |
ah... and sonish too |
| 08:38 |
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cait |
2020 i guess :) |
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drojf |
noo too late |
| 08:39 |
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cait |
? |
| 08:39 |
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drojf |
2020. thats ages away |
| 08:39 |
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cait |
you will see, time flies :) |
| 08:41 |
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magnuse |
nz in 2020 would be awesome |
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drojf |
2017 will be the 10th kohacon. that would deserve a special nz event too ;) |
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* cait |
tries to find out how breaking of callnumbers on the labels work |
| 08:53 |
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cait |
are they using the rules from the classsortrules/classification source? |
| 08:54 |
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drojf |
i still avoid all printing stuff in koha. but i'm afraid i will need it soon |
| 08:54 |
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cait |
... have a library asking... so too late for me to hide :) |
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drojf |
yeah i had several that are interested in it. don't want to start looking into it before they decide on getting support :P |
| 09:04 |
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Joubu |
drojf: It's not as scary as it looks ;) |
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cait |
Joubu: so how do callnumbers get broken on multiple lines? heh |
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* cait |
tries to scare Joubu |
| 09:06 |
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cait |
... but he has seen it all... probably not posible |
| 09:07 |
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Joubu |
I have no idea! :) |
| 09:07 |
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Joubu |
Is there a bug report opened? |
| 09:07 |
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cait |
hm another question... non-sorting characters... does koha hate /like them? |
| 09:07 |
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cait |
Joubu: i just have a library asking how it works - but the question how to change it is probably next :) |
| 09:07 |
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cait |
https://www.loc.gov/marc/nonsorting.html |
| 09:09 |
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LibraryClaire |
hello |
| 09:09 |
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wahanui |
hola, LibraryClaire |
| 09:09 |
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cait |
hi LibraryClaire |
| 09:09 |
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Joubu |
cait: I'd say, it depends. We have a sub somewhere to handle (remove) them on display |
| 09:10 |
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Joubu |
C4::Charset::nsb_clean() |
| 09:10 |
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Joubu |
hum, it does not seem to be widely used |
| 09:11 |
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cait |
*sighs* |
| 09:11 |
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cait |
what woudl you recommend? get rid of them in the data? |
| 09:12 |
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Joubu |
where are they? |
| 09:12 |
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wahanui |
they are quite expensive at the moment. i should check that with electricity prices :) |
| 09:12 |
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cait |
in ...title fields |
| 09:12 |
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cait |
mostly |
| 09:12 |
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cait |
240,245,246... |
| 09:13 |
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Joubu |
I think they are correctly taken into account by zebra |
| 09:13 |
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cait |
maybe we just need to try and see |
| 09:14 |
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cait |
unimarc might be different than marc21 |
| 09:14 |
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Joubu |
and we have a method to handle them from a DT table, but not widely used neither |
| 09:14 |
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cait |
i think in marc21 usually it's coded into the indicators |
| 09:14 |
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cait |
not as a character.. although the options seems to exist too |
| 09:14 |
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cait |
seems non-sorting characters in marc21 exist since 2013? |
| 09:17 |
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drojf |
is that the same as non-filing characters, or i that something else? it appears to be what i thought non-filing characters are, but maybe i have misunderstood that all my life ;) |
| 09:18 |
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cait |
non-filing i think is the same |
| 09:18 |
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drojf |
ah yes it is nonfiling in marc21 specs |
| 09:19 |
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drojf |
AFAIK zebra takes care of that (as Joubu said), but we redundantly have ignored articles in the zebra config |
| 09:23 |
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drojf |
eg in /etc/koha/zebradb/lang_defs/fr/sort-string-utf.chr |
| 09:24 |
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drojf |
oh it's in the english file too, just did not see it |
| 09:25 |
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cait |
more worried about display |
| 09:25 |
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cait |
and export |
| 09:27 |
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drojf |
what exactly are you worried about? |
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cait |
strange characters showing up in zotero and the like |
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rainman |
Evening all, does anyone have the time and expertise to help me resolve an issue with importing biblios and items from Excel? |
| 09:38 |
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drojf |
cait: oh now i get it. you don't mean indicating the number of letters but actual signs. sorry, i misunderstood |
| 09:39 |
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drojf |
i would try to get rid of them if possible |
| 09:48 |
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cait |
yeah... tending that way too |
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cait |
no easy questions today it seems :) |
| 09:59 |
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cait |
rainman: probably not in detail - I have no experience importing from excel - but usually marcedit is one of the tools recommended to do that |
| 09:59 |
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drojf |
anyone else getting "SyntaxError: JSON.parse: expected property name or '}' at line 1 column 3 of the JSON data" in master? (in firebug) |
| 10:01 |
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rainman |
Thanks. I've got the general idea, and am using marcedit. Have figured out how to join fields so I don't get duplicate items, and it seems like my ibiblios and items are being created 1:1. Only issue is the location and barcode etc are not being picked up on the item edit screen, which somewhat hampers circulation... |
| 10:01 |
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cait |
drojf: which page? |
| 10:01 |
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wahanui |
somebody said which page was wrong? |
| 10:02 |
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cait |
hm and have no master... only 3.20.2 |
| 10:02 |
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drojf |
cait: staff client, every page |
| 10:02 |
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cait |
hm could it be the audio alerts bug? |
| 10:02 |
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drojf |
giving me the file name of the one i just open but a line number that is larger than the file. some include-stuff maybe? |
| 10:03 |
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drojf |
ha |
| 10:03 |
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drojf |
with audio alerts diabled its gone |
| 10:03 |
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drojf |
cait++ |
| 10:04 |
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cait |
:) |
| 10:05 |
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rainman |
I take it all back, it seems the last batch I tried has imported with all of the data (maybe, still checking) right. Must be your godly presences. |
| 10:06 |
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cait |
hm location codes are case sensitive, so that could be a common problem |
| 10:06 |
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cait |
but barcodes seems a bit strange... |
| 10:06 |
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cait |
also you need to have one 952 per item with all the subfields that belong to that |
| 10:06 |
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cait |
item |
| 10:08 |
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rainman |
I've got a p, c, and O subfield on the 952, and the location tags I've used are case-consistent. |
| 10:09 |
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cait |
ah, small o? |
| 10:09 |
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cait |
also include a b |
| 10:09 |
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cait |
a and b should both be set to the same branchcode probably |
| 10:09 |
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cait |
hm and you probably want to include a y - itemtype |
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rainman |
Oops yes, small o. Thanks, I'll bung in the others as you suggest. I seem to have a zebraidx issue with duplpicates from a previous run. May just start afresh and delete everything/init the index, and see how I get on with the other fields as well. |
| 10:13 |
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rainman |
One (semi-related) quick question: where I have an ISBN13 and and ISBN10, joining the fields in marcedit seems to just concat the ISBNs together rather than show them as separate things. I can rig up the spreadsheet to pick the 13 if I have it, and the 10 if not, but is there a better way that will retain both? |
| 10:16 |
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drojf |
rainman: field 020 is repeatable, you could have one for 10 and one for 13 |
| 10:16 |
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drojf |
i don't know marcedit though |
| 10:17 |
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rainman |
Me neither mate :) |
| 10:18 |
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rainman |
I'm heavily in "wing it mode". The scary bit is this is starting too make a teeny amount of sense... |
| 10:19 |
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cait |
heh |
| 10:20 |
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cait |
i think instead of concatenating i woudl just add them in separate 020 entries - valid and easy i guess |
| 10:21 |
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rainman |
I've tried to mark the field as repeatable, looks better in the mrk file. I'll just import these and see how we go. Stand by...:) |
| 10:26 |
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rainman |
Woohoo! Success. Thanks so much for your help. You are scholars and gentlepersons, and have had a hand in getting a school library system sorted... |
| 10:28 |
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cait |
:) |
| 10:35 |
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cait |
hm no oleonard |
| 10:36 |
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cait |
I have a bug filing day... and sometimes you really wonder why things haven't been noticed before - bug 15782 - paging only moves you by one comment entry, not by a page... |
| 10:36 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=15782 normal, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , Paging on comments moderation broken |
| 10:37 |
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drojf |
what is the translate.k-c.org component in the bugtracker for? it's not really for translation issues, is it? (looking at bug 15744) |
| 10:37 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=15744 minor, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , GlobalSys: UsageStatsLibraryType German Text 2x "Firmenbibliothek" |
| 10:39 |
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cait |
i think for things like adding new languages maybe? |
| 10:39 |
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cait |
seldomly used |
| 10:39 |
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cait |
are you fixing that right now? |
| 10:40 |
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drojf |
i will close the bug and have a look |
| 10:43 |
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drojf |
don't find it in pootle |
| 10:43 |
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cait |
hm maybe only in one version |
| 10:43 |
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cait |
did you check the pref file directly? |
| 10:46 |
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drojf |
an no it's just the bad user interface |
| 10:46 |
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drojf |
what do we call it? Regierungsbibliothek sounds odd |
| 10:47 |
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cait |
hm what is it - government something? |
| 10:47 |
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cait |
oh |
| 10:47 |
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cait |
behördenbibliothek |
| 10:47 |
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drojf |
but we also have regierungsagentur |
| 10:47 |
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drojf |
i would prefer that |
| 10:47 |
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drojf |
in a lot of places |
| 10:47 |
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cait |
hm? |
| 10:47 |
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drojf |
behörden-. we have regierungs- in other places |
| 10:48 |
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cait |
hm it hink when it's in marc i copied it over |
| 10:48 |
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drojf |
but i am not looking into that now. so i'll make it behördenbibliothek? |
| 10:48 |
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cait |
from the translation |
| 10:48 |
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cait |
for other places i am not sure |
| 10:48 |
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cait |
if you agree :) |
| 10:48 |
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drojf |
much better than the other and i don't have an alternative. so yes :) |
| 10:49 |
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drojf |
changed in 3.20 and 3.22 |
| 10:50 |
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cait |
thx! |
| 10:50 |
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* cait |
dives into bug 2500 |
| 10:50 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=2500 enhancement, P3, ---, cnighswonger, ASSIGNED , Standing enhancement request for adding/updating call number splitting algorithms in C4/Labels.pm |
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* drojf |
leaves for lunch |
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* cait |
waves |
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* magnuse |
waves too |
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Joubu |
outch |
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cait |
hey Joubu - ouch ? |
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Joubu |
ho yeah, a *%£# outch |
| 12:50 |
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Joubu |
I have a very bad news about bug 13618, but I will investigate a bit to know how bad it is... |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=13618 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Master , Prevent XSS in the Staff Client and the OPAC |
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cait |
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kivilahtio |
jajm: I supplied a new version of the example structure and a better validating Swagger minifier |
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tcohen |
morning |
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cait |
morning tcohen |
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oleonard |
Hi #koha |
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cait |
hi oleonard .) |
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Joubu |
bag, khall: please do not push anything today, we may have to revert 13618 |
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khall |
Joubu: I'll pass that on to bag |
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khall |
Joubu: what's the problem? |
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wahanui |
https://i.imgur.com/sguSwlh.jpg |
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Joubu |
khall: the perf are terrible :-( |
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khall |
ack! |
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khall |
Joubu: do you know where the bottleneck is? |
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wahanui |
i guess the bottleneck is worse at QA, thanks to the reduced number of QAers, but only barely. |
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Joubu |
For each TT var displayed in the template, there is a call to Template::Stash::AutoEscaping->get |
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Joubu |
it's quite quick, but on some page we have 60k (!!!) vars displayed |
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drojf |
60k? |
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Joubu |
after a quick test done on the mainpage, I have displayed 10k var and the load of the page is 10s instead of 2s without the patchset |
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Joubu |
drojf: 60.000? |
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khall |
I'm guessing only a fraction of those vars are actually displayed |
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drojf |
yes, i understood. i was just surprised by the number |
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khall |
I wonder if there is a way to only trigger the auto escape when the var is actually used |
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Joubu |
yes, me too. I am trying to get some benchmarks to share |
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tcohen |
any Koha<->ES guru? |
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tcohen |
is there any authentication layer being planned on the ES integration? I guess for multi-site deploys, we should be careful about it if we are running a single ES for all |
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tcohen |
@later tell kidclamp ping me when u r online |
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huginn |
tcohen: The operation succeeded. |
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Joubu |
tcohen: there is not auth layer atm |
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Joubu |
tcohen: there is no auth layer atm |
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Joubu |
you can limit the access to the index to an ip range (I guess) |
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Joubu |
But if it's on the same machine, it won't work |
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tcohen |
i think instance name would be enough to separate namespaces between index domains, at least |
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tcohen |
Joubu: would ES 2.2 work? or do we need to stick to 1.x for now? |
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tcohen |
I ask because I'm adding a task on kohadevbox playbook |
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tcohen |
to install ES |
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Joubu |
I have not tested with v2 |
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Joubu |
I am using 1.4.2 |
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tcohen |
Joubu: what is the lifecycle of ES? |
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Joubu |
tcohen: no idea |
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tcohen |
awesome :-D |
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drojf |
tcohen: i can't find that information. but from the list at https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elasticsearch it has been rather short for older versions |
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kidclamp |
tcohen ping |
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tcohen |
you mentioned you managed to run the ES branch on kohadevbox? |
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kidclamp |
indeed |
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tcohen |
which ES version? |
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kidclamp |
erm, one sec |
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kidclamp |
1.4.2 |
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kidclamp |
tcohen^ |
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tcohen |
thanks kidclamp |
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tcohen |
I'm pushing a patch that installs ES on kohadevbox |
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kidclamp |
awesome! |
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wahanui |
That'll be $1 for the awesome jar, kidclamp |
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kidclamp |
worth it |
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tcohen |
if you remember any difficult step you made |
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tcohen |
let me know so we automate it |
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kidclamp |
hm..just remember to install java :-) |
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kidclamp |
everything went smooth |
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kidclamp |
I think I did have to restart, but it may not be necessary |
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tcohen |
http://snag.gy/V00yi.jpg |
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tcohen |
kidclamp: ^^ |
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kidclamp |
tcohen++ |
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Joubu |
tcohen: you need java + elasticsearch entry in koha_conf + rebuild |
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tcohen |
Joubu: and the deps |
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tcohen |
perl deps |
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Joubu |
yep |
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tcohen |
http://debian.koha-community.o[…]koha/otherthings/ |
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tcohen |
which? |
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wahanui |
which is a different bucket of crazy |
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tcohen |
there's .debs and a tar.gz with .debs inside |
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tcohen |
all of them? |
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Joubu |
should be |
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tcohen |
I will install all of them with cpanm, |
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tcohen |
no point dealing with un-tarring anything :-P |
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tcohen |
on #elasticsearch someone answered he would stick with 1.x |
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tcohen |
but the current one on the repo is 1.7.5 |
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tcohen |
not 1.4.2 |
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tcohen |
later #koha |
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tcohen |
slowly getting back :-D |
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kidclamp |
bye tcohen |
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oleonard |
Is it possible to modify a search to exclude a specific item type? |
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oleonard |
For instance, a search limited to itype:DNLD -- search.pl?idx=kw&q=blue&limit=itype:DNLD |
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oleonard |
Can I negate that itype instead? |
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kidclamp |
not that I know of |
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cait |
hm maybe if you don't use limit... but not totally suer |
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cait |
e |
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cait |
using the 'expert search' somethe=true not itype...? |
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cait |
oleonard: ?idx=kw&q=der&op=not&idx=itype&q=NORMAL&op=and&do=Search (keyword = der not itype = NORMAL |
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reiveune |
bye |
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oleonard |
That looks like it works cait, thanks! |
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oleonard |
Thanks for chiming in on the Grunt/Gulp discussion pianohacker. The sound of crickets was starting to get to me. |
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pianohacker |
heh. It's something I've wanted for a while |
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oleonard |
pianohacker: Do you have an opinion about which, or a third option? |
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pianohacker |
gulp seems a bit more straightforward, but the packaging issue is a killer. |
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pianohacker |
I'd probably go with Jake; I really like broccoli myself, but it's a bit too out there for koha |
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oleonard |
...unless we continue to keep compiled files in git, which we currently do for the OPAC |
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pianohacker |
:/ that simplifies front-end development but is a little unpleasant from a repo cleanliness perspective |
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bag |
morning |
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pianohacker |
an initial build could be integrated into kohadevbox / Makefile.PL / however the cool kids work on Koha these days |
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pianohacker |
there could even be a git hook that rebuilt the files |
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Joubu |
Actually it does not help developers, there are several methods to generate the compiled file and it is always in conflict |
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oleonard |
Joubu: Could you explain what you mean? |
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Joubu |
oleonard: I was trying to remember where I had this discussion, but can't |
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Joubu |
oleonard: on the wiki page, there are different ways to regenerate the compiled files |
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Joubu |
depending on the methods (actually the version), the compiled file won't be the same |
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Joubu |
it's confusing, especially when QAing, because you never know if the patch is ok or not |
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Joubu |
oleonard: does it make any sense? |
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oleonard |
Joubu: Using a tool like I propose would at least get rid of the varying methods. |
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Joubu |
yes, I was not disagreeing with that :) |
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bigbrovar |
Hi guys. I am trying to setup koha in an environment with with no working dns server. (tried setting up one with bind, powerdns and dnsmasq but no show with jessie) I resolved to install and allow it to be accessed via ip (for now) than wait for a working dns server. anyone knows how I can do this? |
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bigbrovar |
I would like something like 192.168.0.1:8181 for opac and 92.168.0.1:8181 staff client |
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drojf |
bigbrovar: change the apache config like you would for any other website. you can't use the same port for both though |
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wahanui |
drojf: that doesn't look right |
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bigbrovar |
drojf: Thanks that is exactly what I intend to do. I guess I might have to also make some changes to the koha config |
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bigbrovar |
wahanui: you don't think that would work? |
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wahanui |
i don't know, bigbrovar |
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drojf |
i don't think so. but i have been working for 10 hours, so don't trust me :P |
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heads home |
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cait |
oleonard++ |
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cait |
@later tell drojf ja |
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huginn |
cait: The operation succeeded. |
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kidclamp |
wahanui is a bot bigbrovar |
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oleonard |
My checkout page in master is really broken. "null undefined undefined undefined undefined" in the list of checkouts. |
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oleonard |
anyone else having problems with it? |
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Joubu |
oleonard: looks ok for me on circ and moremember |
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kidclamp |
me too oleonard |
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kidclamp |
anyone else get a 500 error for checking in a barcode that doesn't exist though? |
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oleonard |
kidclamp: Yes there is a bug for that |
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kidclamp |
ah, missed that one, thanks |
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Joubu |
bug 15730 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=15730 normal, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Passed QA , 500 error on returns.pl if barcode doesn't exist |
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kidclamp |
thanks |
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oleonard |
Screenshot: http://zivotdesign.com/p/uploa[…]e5e7493f1451b.png |
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bora |
hi |
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bora |
anyone can help |
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bora |
I want to configure send email alert for overdue |
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bora |
but don't know how |
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bora |
help pls ? |
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Joubu |
Hi bora |
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Joubu |
Did you read the doc? |
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Joubu |
http://translate.koha-communit[…]p/#noticetriggers |
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bora |
so long |
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Joubu |
oleonard: does it work on 3.22? |
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bora |
and I can't find configure |
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Joubu |
3.1.5 is 20 lines long |
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bora |
ok |
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bora |
those is an option fo |
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bora |
it's would not work cos my server didn't install mail server yet |
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bora |
I am looking for how to setup mail server for koha send overdue |
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Joubu |
bora: you can configure sendmail or postfix, using one of the numerous tuto on the Internet. |
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bora |
can u direct me to postfix for koha |
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Joubu |
bora: how did you install Koha? Which version are you using? |
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bora |
3.22 |
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cait |
hm what's the title? maybe something with "' or similar? |
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cait |
oh, was just looking at oleonard's screenshot |
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Joubu |
bora: how did you install it? |
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oleonard |
cait: I think I may have some bad data. I'm looking further. |
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bora |
package install |
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wahanui |
package install is probably easy, if you do it on a supported os |
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Joubu |
bora: following a tuto? a wiki page? |
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bora |
with Debian os |
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Joubu |
bora: https://wiki.koha-community.or[…]ki/Koha_on_Debian |
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Joubu |
so this wiki page |
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cait |
bye all - bbl |
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bora |
do its work |
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bora |
cos we didn't install send mail or postfix yet |
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oleonard |
Never mind about my checkouts problem, it was bad data. |
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Joubu |
see you #koh |
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a |
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bag |
later Joubu |
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oleonard |
khall around? |
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oleonard |
Can you search by frameworkcode? |
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oleonard |
Hm... Koha will warn you before you delete a frameworkcode which is in use but won't stop you. And it leaves the frameworkcode in existing biblios. That doesn't seem right. |
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oleonard |
For comparison: Koha stops you altogether from deleting an item type which is in use. |
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oleonard |
Should there be a difference? |
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eythian |
Most correct should win out. |
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eythian |
And I think leaving things inconsistent is far from correct. |
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nengard |
oleonard he's on a call right now |
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oleonard |
Thanks nengard |
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nengard |
:) |
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drojf |
it's on. https://wiki.koha-community.or[…]_is_arriving_when |
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drojf |
that is probably the most postprivacyish thing i have ever done |
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* oleonard |
burgles drojf 's house while he's gone |
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drojf |
i will have all valuable stuff with me. please leave something nice ;) |
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drojf |
@later tell cait i have no idea what that "ja" was about :) |
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huginn |
drojf: The operation succeeded. |
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* oleonard |
pictures drojf at the conference wearing lavish jewelry |
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drojf |
lol |
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drojf |
but now i am scared and have to delete the page. or use a nickname that you have to google first |
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drojf |
or get a pet lion |
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drojf |
i accidentally discovered there is another drojf and he is doing some kind of dev work |
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oleonard |
Oh no your brand is being diluted |
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drojf |
that will be very funny when they break into his house while i am in greece |
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drojf |
he got the drojf twitter and openhub accounts |
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oleonard |
It will not be funny when the other drojf gets the Nobel Prize for software development. |
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drojf |
heh that chance is rather small |
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oleonard |
"If you delete this fund, all orders linked to this fund will be deleted!" Or maybe tell me if there are any orders linked to this fund? |
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oleonard |
We are inconsistent. |
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drojf |
there you have it. changed the page to my nickname and added a pet lion and alligators to my profile |
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oleonard |
Security by absurdity. |
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drojf |
exactly |
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wizzyrea |
that conversation, well done. |
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oleonard |
Hi wizzyrea |
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wizzyrea |
hello! |
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drojf |
hi wizzyrea |
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wizzyrea |
hi drojf |
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oleonard |
So anyway, bye. |
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* cait |
waves |
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wizzyrea |
hi cait |
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drojf |
hi cait. what was the @later about? |
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cait |
your question about allegro :) |
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drojf |
aaah. ok. did you see the marcxml output? it's ridiculously broken |
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cait |
hm we didn't use that |
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drojf |
good choice |
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drojf |
the 900 fields become 090 and half of them is lost, 650 gets 600 and probably more |
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drojf |
really weird |
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cait |
? |
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drojf |
i asked a library for marcxml. they send me some samples and said they are incomplete, so they also send .mrc |
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drojf |
and they differ in the way i just said. fields are mixed up, lost etc |
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cait |
don't use the marcxml? :) |
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drojf |
now that i know that… i won't. but who would expect that? |
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drojf |
i used it for somebody else (just in a test installation) |
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cait |
i think the installations might differ to - they can configure quite a lot |
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drojf |
good night #koha |
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cait |
back |
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mtompset |
Greetings and apologies, #koha. :( |
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pianohacker |
? |
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mtompset |
pianohacker: I had an inappropriate outburst of frustration over attempting to configure and get the KOCT working. |
| 22:57 |
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mtompset |
I still don't have it working fully. |
| 22:57 |
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mtompset |
I would like to try to figure out why. |
| 22:58 |
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mtompset |
KOCT is Koha Offline Circulation Tool |
| 22:58 |
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mtompset |
Have you ever used it, pianohacker? |
| 22:58 |
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pianohacker |
mtompset: is this the executable, plugin, or in-browser version? |
| 22:59 |
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mtompset |
there's a 3rd version?! |
| 23:00 |
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mtompset |
I just thought there was a desktop version (the windoze exe) |
| 23:00 |
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mtompset |
and the firefox plugin. |
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wizzyrea |
joubu about? |
| 23:08 |
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cait |
wizzyrea: it's after midnight :) |
| 23:08 |
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cait |
pianohacker: are you up to taking a look at a sec problem? |
| 23:08 |
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wizzyrea |
well sometimes people keep weird hours! |
| 23:08 |
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* wizzyrea |
looks meaningfully at cait |
| 23:08 |
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* cait |
is working on homework! |
| 23:08 |
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cait |
but about to upload it |
| 23:09 |
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cait |
mtompset: there is also an html5 version in koha |
| 23:09 |
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pianohacker |
cait: bug 15670? |
| 23:09 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=15670 normal, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, NEW , Rename "Cancel" to "Cancel hold" when checking in a waiting item |
| 23:09 |
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cait |
yep that one |
| 23:09 |
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wahanui |
yep that one is pretty cool actually |
| 23:09 |
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cait |
it needs to be fixed urgently |
| 23:09 |
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mtompset |
in koha? |
| 23:09 |
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cait |
no not cool wahanui |
| 23:09 |
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wizzyrea |
15760 |
| 23:09 |
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cait |
mtompset: it's html5 based |
| 23:09 |
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pianohacker |
cait: yeah, wiz asked me about me |
| 23:10 |
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cait |
and you said yes? :) |
| 23:10 |
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mtompset |
how do I get to it? |
| 23:10 |
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wizzyrea |
you don't |
| 23:10 |
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pianohacker |
cait: As the person who originally wrote it, I agree that the wording is confusing |
| 23:10 |
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mtompset |
okay, so it's just an API. |
| 23:10 |
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cait |
? |
| 23:10 |
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wizzyrea |
pianohacker: I don't think we are talking about the same thing |
| 23:10 |
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cait |
nope |
| 23:11 |
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pianohacker |
but I can't fix it right now. Way too many things ahead of it |
| 23:11 |
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pianohacker |
? |
| 23:11 |
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pianohacker |
bug 14464? |
| 23:11 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=14464 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jweaver, Pushed to Master , Add ability to cancel waiting holds from checkin screen |
| 23:11 |
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wizzyrea |
15760 |
| 23:11 |
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pianohacker |
oh |
| 23:11 |
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pianohacker |
oh |
| 23:11 |
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cait |
a security issue, not a rename of a link - i can do that sometime :) |
| 23:11 |
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pianohacker |
bug 15760 |
| 23:11 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=15760 is not accessible. |
| 23:11 |
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wizzyrea |
can you see that? |
| 23:11 |
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pianohacker |
oh, wow, okay |
| 23:11 |
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pianohacker |
nope. |
| 23:12 |
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cait |
sec |
| 23:12 |
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wizzyrea |
what email do you use for bugzilla? |
| 23:12 |
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pianohacker |
jweaver bywatersolutions.com |
| 23:12 |
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wizzyrea |
check your mail |
| 23:12 |
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wizzyrea |
:) |
| 23:13 |
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pianohacker |
oh god. |
| 23:14 |
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wizzyrea |
yeah. |
| 23:14 |
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wizzyrea |
you have a minute for that? |
| 23:14 |
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wizzyrea |
or 120 |
| 23:14 |
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pianohacker |
I need to lie down for a bit first, this has been too long of a day |
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* mtompset |
is still confused. |
| 23:20 |
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cait |
the koct chapter in the manual was what i used for testing the plugin |
| 23:20 |
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cait |
i wrote a doc for our libraries not long ago, no problems with Firefox ESR that we use at work |
| 23:21 |
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cait |
going to sleep now :) bye all |
| 23:21 |
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wizzyrea |
sleep well |
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| 23:21 |
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mtompset |
Manual... DUH! I should have tried to look for that. But I figured KOCT would not be documented in a Koha manual. |
| 23:24 |
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* mtompset |
goes off to see if the manual clarifies this for him. |
| 23:25 |
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wizzyrea |
it's part of Koha now. The addon itself isn't in Koha but the other bits are |
| 23:32 |
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bag |
One of my favorite newish fundraising things Everylibrary https://votelibraries.nationbu[…]watermatching2016 |
| 23:33 |
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bag |
we’ve helped raise another $1005 today with matches :) |
| 23:33 |
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dac |
bag++ |
| 23:38 |
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pianohacker |
hey dcook |
| 23:41 |
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dcook |
hey pianohacker |
| 23:41 |
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wahanui |
regexes are AWESOME |
| 23:41 |
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dcook |
Get my message? |
| 23:41 |
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pianohacker |
yup, thanks for confirming |
| 23:41 |
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pianohacker |
wish I were surprised by this bug |
| 23:41 |
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dcook |
hehe |
| 23:41 |
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dcook |
Ikr |
| 23:41 |
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dcook |
Alas, that one is above my paygrade. Going to have to take it up with Indexdata |
| 23:45 |
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mtompset |
Nope. The manual does not help. |
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mtompset |
AH... found the third one. |
