IRC log for #koha, 2016-01-20

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00:29 dcook Hmm, tough to test a server when it's not responding...
00:29 dcook Maybe a good time to test request timeouts :p
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00:39 Francesca background: -webkit-linear-gradient(left, #5bad3f 0%,#4a9b32 19%,#4a9b32 77%,#5bad3f 100%);
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00:40 Francesca sorry
00:40 wizzyrea hehe sok
00:40 wizzyrea happens to everyone
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00:57 dcook Man HTTP::OAI is buggy..
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01:03 rangi what the hell is the pref for holds for items not on loan?
01:04 cait1 no pref
01:04 cait1 in the circulation conditions
01:04 cait1 well no pref no longer
01:04 rangi ah ok
01:04 cait1 on shelf holds allowed = yes
01:05 dcook That threw me for a loop the other day. It's nicer this way I think :)
01:05 wizzyrea it is nicer this way
01:05 wizzyrea I keep wishing for a default rule
01:05 wizzyrea that had everything set
01:05 cait1 much more flexible now
01:05 cait1 but people still ask for the pref :)
01:07 cait1 wizzyrea: i think the changes pianohacker and khall suggested would work this way - with inheritance for every value
01:08 wizzyrea neat
01:18 Francesca hey gandalf
01:18 Francesca wahanui gandalf
01:18 wahanui you shall not pass!
01:19 Francesca yus it worked
01:19 * Francesca goes back to looking at favicons and thinking about bugs
01:20 wizzyrea that is messed up, the files exist for the user permissions, but they are sure as shit not loaded.
01:20 wizzyrea i mean, it doesn't even try.
01:20 wizzyrea afaict.
01:22 wizzyrea ohh kayy. yeah that's an easy enough thing to fix I think.
01:29 Francesca ugh dev box on my mac is broken -_-
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01:58 Francesca calabaster: #5bad3f;
01:58 Francesca (ignore the semi-colon)
02:05 dcook TFW you want to get a lot done but third-party bugs slow you down..
02:06 dcook HTTP::OAI is not happy with Koha's own HTTP::OAI output it seems...
02:07 wizzyrea ugh.
02:08 dcook I'm just hoping it's somehow my fault..
02:08 dcook But it's not looking like it..
02:08 dcook But this is crazy. I've totally harvested from Koha OAI before with HTTP::OAI..
02:09 wizzyrea btw
02:10 wizzyrea devbox was broken by 13632
02:10 rangi calabaster:[…]y#Bugs_to_work_on
02:11 dcook Aha... thank god...
02:11 dcook I think it was bad data from someone else
02:11 dcook And just a really misleading error from HTTP::OAI
02:11 Francesca 13632? is that a bug
02:12 * Francesca decides to find out
02:12 Francesca bug 13632
02:12 huginn` Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=13632 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Master , Make permission descriptions translatable
02:13 wizzyrea which YAY for that bug
02:13 wizzyrea but booo that it broke devbox :)
02:13 dcook <controlfield tag="008">YYMMDD?DAT1 CNT 000 0 LNG d</controlfield>
02:13 dcook No one likes that
02:13 dcook Oh snap..
02:13 dcook Ins't that something I was involved in..
02:13 * dcook hides
02:13 wizzyrea >.> yes but it's not your fault
02:14 dcook \o/
02:14 wizzyrea your work was good :)
02:14 Francesca ah well I tried to log into devbox and it gave me an error
02:14 dcook "It's not my fault"
02:14 wizzyrea just devbox needed a change
02:14 dcook Star Wars quotes are the answer to everything
02:14 Francesca something about arrays
02:14 dcook Wait..
02:14 dcook Lando quote?
02:14 dcook both..
02:14 * Francesca makes a note to teach wahanui star wars quotes
02:14 dcook :D
02:16 * wizzyrea wonders if all of the .sql files in installer/data/mysql are mandatory
02:16 dcook I would have my doubts but you never know
02:16 * dcook barely even knows what time it is right now
02:17 wizzyrea hehe
02:17 wizzyrea imma guess they are.
02:17 wizzyrea there is something so satisfying about vagrant destroy.
02:17 dcook Ah yeah at a glance that looks pretty good
02:18 dcook Didn't even know audio_alerts were a thing..
02:18 wizzyrea neither. was gonna check what the web installer does
02:19 wizzyrea at a utterly uninformed guess, I'd suggest that if you chuck a .sql in there, you mean for it to be included.
02:19 dcook Totes
02:22 wizzyrea especially ones that, say, install the syspref descriptions :P
02:22 wizzyrea i am so happy right now, I just got a vagrant box up that has permissions out of the box.
02:22 wizzyrea YAY.
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02:23 wizzyrea I like how Y's look like happy people
02:23 wizzyrea Y!
02:23 dcook Happy people without heads!
02:24 dcook And well done!
02:24 wizzyrea their heads are thrown back with happy yay ness
02:24 dcook hehe
02:24 dcook I'll buy that
02:24 Francesca rangi: I posted this a while back
02:25 Francesca header colour still isn't quite right
02:25 dcook ;;
02:25 dcook That's how I feel :p
02:25 dcook Anyone know if the new REST API is actually being used by anyone?
02:26 dcook Now that I think about it... are we using it with Plack or any sort of persistence..
02:26 wizzyrea pass
02:27 dcook hehe
02:27 dcook Yeah, that's my thought on it at the moment
02:27 rangi i think you have to run another whole mojolicious server
02:27 dcook Just going to make me an import_oai service..
02:27 rangi to use it
02:27 rangi but i hope im wrong
02:27 wizzyrea mojolicious, the name alone makes me not like it
02:27 wizzyrea for no good reason.
02:27 wizzyrea #bias
02:27 dcook hehe
02:28 wizzyrea it's probably great!
02:28 dcook Yeah, git/api/v1/ looks like the sort of thing you'd have Plack start up
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02:29 tcohen hi
02:29 wizzyrea tcohen. Hi.
02:29 dcook That's uncanny
02:29 dcook yo tcohen
02:29 tcohen hey wizzyrea dcook
02:31 Francesca hey tcohen
02:32 dcook rangi: By default, I think it'll just run it in CGI mode... but that must be dreadfully slow
02:32 * Francesca goes to set up a devbox on her pc
02:32 rangi i dont think you can run the new rest api in cgi mode, unless they added that ability lately
02:32 rangi ?
02:33 dcook Hmm, it says it autodetects CGI in[…]/New_REST_API_RFC and[…]ommands#start_app
02:33 dcook But I admit I have no idea how it works atm
02:33 dcook I've just used Catalyst with mod_perl
02:33 dcook That's about as far as I've gotten with frameworks and persistence so far
02:34 dcook Hmm, no reply to my comment on bug 13799 about documentation
02:34 huginn` Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=13799 new feature, P5 - low, ---, julian.maurice, Pushed to Master , Add base for building RESTful API
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02:34 rangi worth a try i guess
02:35 * dcook shrugs
02:35 dcook I don't have the time to fiddle with it too much at the moment, so old "svc/*" style I go
02:36 tcohen rangi: it actually does run on CGI mode
02:37 dcook I guess Mojolicious handles the routes dynamically.. forgot about that..
02:38 dcook So you should just need to visit /api/v1/borrowers
02:38 dcook I imagine it would be slow but I would think it would work
02:38 dcook If one had all the modules installed of course
02:38 * dcook doesn't
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02:41 tcohen dcook: ah
02:42 tcohen i didn't know what you were talking about
02:42 tcohen it is /api/v1/patrons/
02:42 wizzyrea tcohen: does your ansible branch on kohadevbox have a "skip the webinstaller" type feature?
02:42 dcook Wha?
02:42 wahanui Wha are you playing?
02:42 dcook tcohen: I thought it was borrowers according to bug 13799
02:42 huginn` Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=13799 new feature, P5 - low, ---, julian.maurice, Pushed to Master , Add base for building RESTful API
02:43 tcohen there was a discussion/vote raised by ashimema
02:43 tcohen naming conventions
02:43 dcook naming_conventions--
02:43 dcook Debate as old as libraries I think
02:43 tcohen wizzyrea: it is missing, I was writing a patch for bug…
02:43 wizzyrea good, then you won't have the problem I just fixed in the non-ansible one :)
02:43 tcohen[…]_bug.cgi?id=15392
02:43 huginn` Bug 15392: enhancement, P5 - low, ---, tomascohen, NEW , Add a script to load default data
02:44 tcohen so we can just use it
02:44 tcohen and keep the branch clean/simple
02:44 tcohen either branch
02:44 wizzyrea yeah that'd be good, then we can rip out what the other branch has now
02:44 wizzyrea and use that instead :)
02:44 wizzyrea safer.
02:45 tcohen i was planning to use it so we can have jenkins compare upgraded vs. clean install db structure
02:45 wizzyrea that sounds excellent.
02:45 tcohen ^^ that could be interesting for academy btw
02:45 wizzyrea truf, if they get bored.
02:46 tcohen there is a perl lib and a cli script which we could just parse the output
02:46 tcohen i used it before releasing 3.2
02:46 tcohen 2
02:46 wizzyrea even the script to load the default data could be interesting.
02:46 wizzyrea for academy
02:47 tcohen true
02:51 dcook Hmm... bad data strikes again
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03:01 dcook Man the QueryParser drives me a bit nuts..
03:02 dcook So damned case sensitive..
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03:18 rangi natasha:
03:19 drojf morning #koha
03:19 drojf a very early one
03:23 drojf looks like letsencrypt is almost in jessie backports :)
03:24 ibeardslee ohhh
03:24 wizzyrea oh that would be excellent
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03:33 Amit_Gupta hi all
03:39 tcohen bye #koha
03:39 dcook laters tcohen
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04:12 Amit_Gupta heya dcook
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06:06 rangi @later tell tcohen[…]  <-- revoked the old one as it wasn't strong enough
06:06 huginn` rangi: The operation succeeded.
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07:43 reiveune hello
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07:50 alex_a bonjour
07:50 wahanui privet, alex_a
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08:18 Joubu hi
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08:22 gaetan_B hello
08:22 wahanui bonjour, gaetan_B
08:23 cait @later tell tcohen ping - I got a question about 12750
08:23 huginn` cait: The operation succeeded.
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09:08 LibraryClaire morning #koha
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09:19 LibraryClaire @wunder LCY
09:19 huginn` LibraryClaire: The current temperature in London City, United Kingdom is 0.0°C (8:50 AM GMT on January 20, 2016). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 80%. Dew Point: -3.0°C. Windchill: -2.0°C. Pressure: 30.15 in 1021 hPa (Rising).
09:20 LibraryClaire @wunder Guildford, UK
09:20 huginn` LibraryClaire: The current temperature in Chilworth, Chilworth, United Kingdom is -4.5°C (9:20 AM GMT on January 20, 2016). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 81%. Dew Point: -7.0°C. Windchill: -4.0°C. Pressure: 30.12 in 1020 hPa (Steady).
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09:35 ashimema @wunder stevenage, uk
09:35 huginn` ashimema: The current temperature in Stevenage, England, Stevenage, United Kingdom is 1.4°C (9:35 AM GMT on January 20, 2016). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 82%. Dew Point: -1.0°C. Windchill: 1.0°C. Pressure: 30.09 in 1019 hPa (Steady).
09:36 ashimema brrr
09:36 ashimema morning LibraryClaire
09:36 ashimema morning #koha
09:37 LibraryClaire hey ashimema :)
09:38 * ashimema is in a dance around the room mood.. he just made a 7400% speed improvement on one of his script in another app :)
09:39 LibraryClaire :D
09:39 * LibraryClaire would like to steal some of that energy please
09:41 cait 7400....
09:41 cait wow
09:41 cait :)
09:42 * LibraryClaire goes to find coffee
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11:29 khall @later tell tcohen could you s/o the latest patches on 14598 ?
11:29 huginn` khall: The operation succeeded.
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11:41 drojf cait: i will finish 3.20 today and test translations then. took too long to translate yesterday
11:42 cait yeah i know
11:42 cait i was surprised how fast the time went
11:44 eythian @wunder Jordaan, Amsterdam
11:44 huginn` eythian: Error: HTTP Error 404: Not Found
11:44 eythian @wunder ams
11:44 huginn` eythian: The current temperature in Schiphol, Badhoevedorp, Netherlands is 4.1°C (12:35 PM CET on January 20, 2016). Conditions: Light Rain. Humidity: 89%. Dew Point: 2.0°C. Windchill: 4.0°C. Pressure: 30.04 in 1017 hPa (Steady).
11:44 eythian Almost summery
11:46 cait @wunder Konstanz - snow melting
11:46 huginn` cait: The current temperature in Friedrichshafen, Germany is -1.0°C (12:20 PM CET on January 20, 2016). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 75%. Dew Point: -5.0°C. Windchill: -3.0°C. Pressure: 30.06 in 1018 hPa (Steady).
12:18 drojf @wunder berlin, germany
12:18 huginn` drojf: The current temperature in Berlin Tegel, Germany is 0.0°C (12:50 PM CET on January 20, 2016). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 69%. Dew Point: -5.0°C. Windchill: -4.0°C. Pressure: 29.95 in 1014 hPa (Steady).
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12:41 oleonard Hi #koha
12:44 cait hi oleonard :)
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13:11 drojf i don't think this is a usefulk description:
13:11 drojf Configuring 'Did you mean?' plugins requires Javascript. If you are  unable to use Javascript, you may be able to enter the configuration  (which is stored in JSON in the OPACdidyoumean and INTRAdidyoumean  system preferences) in the Local Preferences tab in the system  preference editor, but this is unsupported, not recommended, and likely  will not work.
13:12 drojf may be able to, but unsupported and will like not work? why put it there then?
13:12 drojf *likely
13:14 drojf how about "Configuring 'Did you mean?' plugins requires Javascript. Possible workaround see wiki-link"
13:14 oleonard drojf: Where do you see it?
13:15 drojf i had to translate it
13:15 drojf intranet-tmpl/prog/en/modu​les/admin/
13:15 oleonard We shouldn't have to warn a user of the staff client about requiring JavaScript. The staff client requires JavaScript, period.
13:20 drojf true
13:28 drojf i do not see any sysprefs with "didyoumean"
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13:29 Joubu drojf: they are hidden
13:29 drojf oh the local tab is not included in the syspref search?
13:29 Joubu see the local pref
13:29 drojf yes. i did not know that is not searched
13:29 Joubu drojf: no it's not
13:29 Joubu There are 2 scripts, 1 for local prefs, and 1 for others
13:30 drojf then the description is even worse. at least i did read it differently. (and translated too…)
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13:33 oleonard Oh I see it's in a <noscript> block.
13:33 oleonard That's unique in the staff client
13:34 drojf where/how do i use the did you mean feature?
13:35 Joubu you enable it in admin/, then it should appear on the search result
13:35 Joubu page
13:36 drojf ah! thanks Joubu
13:36 oleonard And it uses authority records, so if you have none I don't think it does anything.
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14:08 oleonard Good morning waking up people.
14:12 nengard morning oleonard
14:12 misilot is the user_permissions table used?
14:14 misilot as when I add flags to the permissions nothing shows up that table? I am running 3.18.12
14:17 cait misilot: yes, it is used
14:18 cait it probably depends on the flags
14:18 cait it's for sub_permisions
14:18 cait the second level permissions
14:19 misilot cait: ah ok. i figured all the permissions would be there
14:19 cait the 'first level' is in borrowers.flags
14:20 misilot ah ok. onto making more sql to copy permissions
14:20 misilot thanks :)
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14:23 cait np
14:25 misilot getting tired of setting permissions manually for ~20 workers every 6 months or so. Adding / removing
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15:26 cait oleonard++ thx for takng care of the academy patches
15:27 oleonard I made it some of the way through the list, but not all the way. On to other things now.
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16:00 reiveune bye
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17:27 drojf what is "Population registry date check:"?
17:28 oleonard A question for magnuse I guess?
17:28 drojf is it related to swedish skatteverk?
17:30 drojf oleonard: why magnuse?
17:30 oleonard Isn't that template a Norwegian library thing?
17:31 Joubu members/
17:31 drojf i don't know, i have not looked at it. but maybe nl means that
17:32 oleonard Yup, git blame says magnuse.
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17:39 drojf it's resident registration in wikipedia english
17:39 drojf team german translation done
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17:48 nengard tubaclarinet[…]show/50505233.cms
17:48 khall
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17:50 nengard tubaclarinet another i just found
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17:51 nengard tubaclarinet final one I found
17:52 tcohen hi
17:52 wahanui bidet, tcohen
17:55 nengard[…]ard-super-comput/
17:59 nengard tubaclarinet[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8628
18:00 huginn` Bug 8628: enhancement, P5 - low, ---, martin, Failed QA , Add digital signs to the OPAC
18:13 tubaclarinet nengard and khall: thank u :-)
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18:48 drojf @later tell cait translation done and checked. found two errors in mine, none in yours
18:48 huginn` drojf: The operation succeeded.
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19:25 * cait waves
19:35 kidclamp hi cait
19:38 calabaster[…]y#Bugs_to_work_on
19:49 cait hi all
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19:50 Mayhem Hello everyone
19:50 rangi pianohacker: are you about?
19:50 Mayhem I need some help
19:51 Mayhem I just made a fresh install of koha
19:52 Mayhem using VMWare
19:53 Mayhem and i install everything with terminal
19:53 Mayhem i installed the last version of koha
19:53 Mayhem and ubuntu 14.04.014
19:54 Mayhem and i got this error
19:54 Mayhem Can't call method "do" on unblessed reference at /usr/share/koha/lib/C4/ line 793. BEGIN failed--compilation aborted at /usr/share/koha/lib/C4/ line 89. Compilation failed in require at /usr/share/koha/opac/cgi-bin/opac/ line 23. BEGIN failed--compilation aborted at /usr/share/koha/opac/cgi-bin/opac/ line 23.
19:54 Mayhem staff client and opac not working
19:54 onre there's a certain API that provides metadata in MARC21 and DC formats. however, the API is not Z39.50 or SRU, but instead an HTTP api with JSON responses. to use said metadata in Koha cataloguing, I thought of writing a small "proxy" that acts as a SRU server and uses the API I described as a backend. is this a valid approach?
19:55 rangi Mayhem: that looks to me like your database isnt running and/or koha can't connect to it
19:57 drojf onre: if you mean that koha can connect to that proxy via sru then i suppose that should work
19:57 cait drojf++ thx a lot
19:57 rangi onre: /ws 31
19:57 rangi lol that wont work
19:57 cait .. and my errors are probably jsut better hidden
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19:58 onre drojf, yes, that's exactly what I mean
19:58 drojf cait: no script errors. i did not check the contents of the translations :)
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19:58 cait see... :)
19:59 drojf onre: have you looked at metaproxy? i don't know hat kind of data you can feed it, but maybe that is an option
20:01 onre drojf, nice, thank you for the link. this looks really useful, and if it can't do what I'm trying to do, I know just enough C++ to be dangerous
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20:03 rangi gandalf:
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20:07 rangi
20:07 Mayhem and how can i check if my database is running?
20:08 onre service mysql status
20:10 Mayhem it's running
20:10 Mayhem still not working
20:10 rangi  <-- 2000 - 2010 koha codebase history
20:15 Mayhem reinstalling mysql might solve it?
20:17 rangi no don't do that
20:19 rangi check what is in you your /etc/koha/sites/instancename/koha-conf.xml    (where instancename was the name you chose when you ran koha-create)
20:19 rangi you did koha-create --create-db eh?
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20:22 Mayhem let me check
20:25 Mayhem what i need to check in koha-conf?
20:26 rangi what the database name is, and the username and password, dont paste them here
20:26 wizzyrea (our channel is logged)
20:26 rangi but try connecting to it on the commandline
20:27 rangi mysql -u username -p databasename
20:27 rangi then enter the password when it prompts
20:27 rangi they are near the bottom of the koha-conf.xml file
20:48 cait rebooting
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20:51 Mayhem_ sorry
20:52 Mayhem_ it shows me this error
20:52 Mayhem_ ERROR 1045 (28000): Access denied for user 'koha_library'@'localhost' (using password: YES)
20:57 rangi gandalf:[…]rkdown-Cheatsheet
20:58 rangi[…]/master/
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21:16 pianohacker hola
21:16 wahanui what's up, pianohacker
21:16 pianohacker wahanui: *high five*
21:16 wahanui pianohacker: excuse me?
21:17 pianohacker wahanui: *high five* is <reply>*high five*
21:17 wahanui OK, pianohacker.
21:17 pianohacker wahanui: *high five*
21:17 wahanui *high five*
21:18 Francesca joined #koha
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21:19 Francesca good morning
21:19 wahanui the only good morning is a dead one
21:19 tcohen hi
21:19 wahanui salut, tcohen
21:19 Francesca hi tcohen
21:19 pianohacker Francesca: is that you in the shiny hat in the picture rangi posted yesterday?
21:19 Francesca most likely
21:20 Francesca in fact highly likely
21:20 pianohacker nice hat
21:20 Francesca thanks
21:26 rangi pianohacker: bug 15606
21:26 huginn` Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=15606 trivial, P5 - low, ---, gel1163, Passed QA , Spelling mistake in MARC21slim2OPACDetail.xsl
21:26 rangi thats one by gandalf, if you get a chance to push that that would be awesome, then all 4 students will have one :)
21:26 pianohacker rangi: will take a look later today :)
21:27 rangi thank you
21:27 * Francesca waves at rangi
21:28 rangi hey Francesca
21:28 wahanui hmmm... Francesca is a junior developer with koha (suprise)
21:28 Francesca oh wow I didn't set that one
21:28 * Francesca thinks its very cool
21:29 Francesca rangi: hope the academy goes well today, I'll be around on irc if they have any front-end questions
21:38 cait pianohacker: are you around a bit longer?
21:39 pianohacker cait: will be for another couple hours, yeah
21:39 pianohacker what's up?
21:39 cait some bad bugs again, but have to qa first :)
21:40 pianohacker kk
21:52 cait pianohacker: bug 15607
21:52 huginn` Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=15607 critical, P1 - high, ---, jonathan.druart, Signed Off , Batch patron modification: Data loss of 'dateenrolled' and 'expirydate' fields
21:52 cait now pqa
21:52 pianohacker oh, right, this one
21:53 cait yep
21:53 pianohacker oh, nvm, I was thinking of bug 15332
21:53 huginn` Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=15332 critical, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Stable , ModMember not interpreting dates (Batch patron modification)
21:53 pianohacker cait: yeah, I'll push that this evening
21:54 cait thank you
21:54 gandalf Would love a sign off on 14647 if you have got time
21:54 cait bug 14647
21:54 huginn` Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=14647 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, gel1163, Needs Signoff , Make the file name extension dynamic on exporting records
21:55 cait gandalf: sounds interesting - bit late here already, not sure i will get to it
21:55 gandalf cheers anyway :)
21:56 pianohacker hi gandalf
21:56 gandalf hey
21:57 Francesca hey gandalf
21:58 calabaster hi gandalf
21:58 Francesca hi calabaster
21:58 cait gandalf: also not signing off means I can qa it later :)
21:59 natasha gandalf - you shall not passss
21:59 Francesca hahahaha
21:59 gandalf hahahahahaha
21:59 calabaster hahahahah
21:59 * Francesca high fives natasha
21:59 gandalf you mean my patch
21:59 gandalf ;;
21:59 Francesca wahanui gandalf
21:59 wahanui you shall not pass!
22:00 dcook Hmm Francesca, what's the trick for seeing the last time someone referred to you?
22:00 dcook @last dcook
22:00 huginn` dcook: (last [--{from,in,on,with,without,regexp} <value>] [--nolimit]) -- Returns the last message matching the given criteria. --from requires a nick from whom the message came; --in requires a channel the message was sent to; --on requires a network the message was sent on; --with requires some string that had to be in the message; --regexp requires a regular expression the message must match; --nolimit (1 more message)
22:01 Francesca I didn't actually know so thanks for finding out for me
22:01 dcook hehe
22:01 pianohacker @seen dcook
22:01 huginn` pianohacker: dcook was last seen in #koha 1 second ago: <dcook> hehe
22:01 dcook Nah, I want to know when someone talked about me
22:01 dcook #evergreen was lit up but I don't want to scroll forever :p
22:02 Francesca #evergreen?
22:02 wahanui somebody said #evergreen was voting on the RM using meetbot's vote functionality. So everyone is saying "Vote yes."
22:02 pianohacker oh, gotcha
22:02 dcook I guess that might be client specific..
22:02 pianohacker no, i think huginn can do it
22:02 dcook Francesca: Yeah, it's on freenode. It's the other open source ILS
22:02 Francesca ah
22:02 Francesca cool
22:02 pianohacker @last --with dcook
22:02 huginn` pianohacker: [22:01:25] <pianohacker> @seen dcook
22:03 dcook Nice
22:03 dcook Alas, pinesol doesn't like it :p
22:03 dcook Ah, it was random
22:03 dcook @tea [someone]
22:03 dcook * pinesol_green brews and pours a pot of Wild Snow Sprout Tea, and sends it sliding down the bar to dcook ([…]sprout-tea/6447/)
22:03 * huginn` brews and pours a pot of Home, and sends it sliding down the bar to gandalf (
22:03 dcook hehe
22:03 Francesca hahahaha
22:04 Francesca pinesol_green?
22:04 Francesca whos that
22:04 pianohacker prolly the bot
22:04 pianohacker (for #evergreen)
22:04 Francesca right
22:04 dcook yarp
22:05 dcook @last --with gandalf
22:05 huginn` dcook: [21:59:32] <Francesca> wahanui gandalf
22:05 Francesca @bartender dcook
22:05 * huginn` fills a pint glass with Cantillon Lou Pepe Gueuze - 2000, and sends it sliding down the bar to dcook (
22:05 dcook And the bot doesn't count its own messages to the person
22:05 Francesca lol
22:05 dcook Hey hey
22:05 wahanui niihau, dcook
22:05 dcook That's more my speed
22:05 * dcook doesn't tend to drink tea or coffee
22:05 pianohacker this sounds like really fancy-pants beer
22:05 clover could even be craft beer
22:06 cait @wunder Konstanz
22:06 huginn` cait: The current temperature in Friedrichshafen, Germany is -7.0°C (10:50 PM CET on January 20, 2016). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 86%. Dew Point: -9.0°C. Windchill: -11.0°C. Pressure: 30.12 in 1020 hPa (Steady).
22:06 dcook @wunder syd
22:06 huginn` dcook: The current temperature in Sydney, New South Wales is 27.0°C (8:30 AM AEDT on January 21, 2016). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 61%. Dew Point: 19.0°C. Pressure: 29.83 in 1010 hPa (Steady).
22:06 dcook Still cool. Supposed to be up to 40 or something today
22:06 dcook 35-40
22:06 Francesca @wunder wlg
22:06 huginn` Francesca: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 18.0°C (10:30 AM NZDT on January 21, 2016). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 68%. Dew Point: 12.0°C. Pressure: 30.06 in 1018 hPa (Steady).
22:07 dcook @who summoned Francesca
22:07 huginn` mario summoned Francesca.
22:07 dcook I have no idea what that's about
22:07 Francesca nether
22:07 Francesca dunno if i've even had a conversation with mario
22:07 dcook @who summoned Francesca
22:07 huginn` sijobl summoned Francesca.
22:08 dcook @who
22:08 huginn` dcook: (who [<channel>] <question>) -- Answers <question> with a random nick from <channel>. <channel> is only necessary if the message isn't sent in the channel itself.
22:08 wizzyrea dcook do you have a "find in buffer" in your irc client?
22:08 Francesca ah right
22:08 dcook @who picked a peck of pickled peppers Francesca
22:08 huginn` denials picked a peck of pickled peppers Francesca.
22:08 cait @eightball will there be more spelling patches?
22:08 huginn` cait: It shall be.
22:08 Francesca dcook lol
22:08 dcook wizzyrea: Probably somewhere
22:08 wizzyrea when in doubt, ctrl-f
22:08 wizzyrea :p
22:09 dcook Sage words
22:09 dcook haha
22:09 dcook Yeah, that works
22:09 * Francesca waves at wizzyrea
22:09 dcook Went to bed too late last night
22:09 wizzyrea hehe
22:09 Francesca heh
22:09 wizzyrea hi Francesca
22:09 * dcook is slowly turning into a nana who can't stay up past 10
22:09 pianohacker @who dares to disturb the slumber of the deep
22:09 huginn` JoshB dares to disturb the slumber of the deep.
22:09 Francesca looool
22:09 wizzyrea dcook: it's only going to get worse
22:09 dcook hehe
22:09 wizzyrea and then it will get better again
22:09 wizzyrea and then you'll have another.
22:09 * Francesca has a cold
22:09 wizzyrea >.>
22:09 dcook wizzyrea: Exactly
22:10 * dcook wonders if the A/C is even on..
22:10 pianohacker @weather dcook's office
22:10 huginn` pianohacker: Error: HTTP Error 404: Not Found
22:10 Francesca lol
22:11 dcook @weather
22:11 huginn` dcook: (weather <US zip code | US/Canada city, state | Foreign city, country>) -- Returns the approximate weather conditions for a given city.
22:11 dcook hmm
22:11 dcook @weather sydney, australia
22:11 huginn` dcook: The current temperature in Sydney, New South Wales is 28.0°C (9:00 AM AEDT on January 21, 2016). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 58%. Dew Point: 19.0°C. Pressure: 29.83 in 1010 hPa (Steady).
22:11 Francesca so basically @wunder
22:11 dcook @wunder
22:11 huginn` dcook: (wunder <US zip code | US/Canada city, state | Foreign city, country>) -- Returns the approximate weather conditions for a given city.
22:11 dcook yep
22:13 dcook I'm thinking... if I just pretend I'm awake... I'll trick my body into thinking it's awake
22:14 Francesca get a coffee
22:16 * Francesca is tired too
22:16 dcook Nah, I don't drink coffee :p
22:16 dcook That may or may not change when I have a crying infnat
22:16 dcook infant*
22:17 cait not long now... march?
22:17 dcook Yep, March 10
22:17 dcook I guess I should finish that OAI stuff, eh?
22:18 dcook I'm actually hoping to get something posted in the next couple weeks for that..
22:18 dcook I have a few lists of improvements and stuff that just won't make it in before bub is born though I think..
22:18 * dcook is planning to take about 6 weeks off too..
22:19 cait a boy?
22:19 dcook We're not saying either way
22:20 dcook They seem pretty average sized though
22:20 dcook Bodies are crazy though..
22:20 * dcook will stop before he starts talking about the movement of bones and internal organs
22:24 cait they?
22:24 wahanui they are quite expensive at the moment. i should check that with electricity prices :)
22:24 cait 2 or neutral?
22:24 dcook neutral
22:25 cait so confusing!
22:26 dcook Hehe. Sorry!
22:26 pianohacker they'll have a perfectly average 1.03 children
22:26 Francesca lol
22:27 dcook Well, in theory 1.1
22:27 dcook Isn't every family supposed to have 2.2 kids or something?
22:27 dcook I suppose the first might be 1.03 and the second 1.17
22:27 pianohacker well yeah, but normally you put off that last .14 until the end
22:28 dcook It would be easier for the second baby I'm sure
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22:31 wizzyrea they really ought to round those numbers better.
22:31 wizzyrea 2.
22:31 wizzyrea you can't have .2 of a kid.
22:31 wizzyrea sorry you just can't
22:32 pianohacker you'd know better than I
22:34 dcook ^
22:34 dcook wizzyrea: Or maybe you "shouldn't" have .2 of a kid
22:34 dcook My sense of humour is too morbid for an expectant parent..
22:35 cbrannon If you have .2 of a kid, makes you wonder where the other .8 is.
22:36 Francesca i dont think i want to know
22:36 wizzyrea smh
22:37 dcook wizzyrea: I think we might be hopeless
22:51 dcook Dang, I didn't realize that the default @INC is set when Perl is compiled...
22:51 dcook Makes sense I guess
22:52 * dcook doesn't really want to re-compile Perl just to get to /usr/local/lib/perl5...
22:52 Francesca now that sounds fimaliar
22:53 Francesca thats where my devbox on my mac told me to go yesterday after I logged in and it gave me an error message
22:53 dcook Hmm interesting
22:53 wahanui interesting is sometimes good and sometimes bad
22:54 Dyrcona dcook: There are tricks that don't require recompiling Perl, but most involve command line switches or setting @INC inside scripts.
22:55 Dyrcona Or setting the environment variable PERL5LIB.
22:55 dcook Dyrcona: Yeah, I know all those
22:55 * Dyrcona uses the last a lot.
22:55 dcook It's just inconvenient
22:55 Dyrcona Can be inconvenient, yes.
22:55 dcook "use lib" is pretty handy as well
22:55 Dyrcona Yeah.
22:55 dcook It's all good though :)
22:56 dcook I like that Perl provides so many ways of dealing with it
22:56 dcook Python seems a bit harder, although maybe I just don't understand it as well
22:56 dcook I think it also has an environmental variable and you can do something like "use lib"..
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22:56 Francesca dcook I can go get that error message if you like
22:56 dcook Francesca: Sure, although I don't know anything about the devbox :/
22:57 Francesca eh in that case I cant be bothered (I'm home sick today)
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23:04 dcook Ooh. I knew about GIT_DIR but I didn't know that there was a "--git-dir" commandline option
23:04 dcook That's nice
23:05 wizzyrea Francesca: I suggest you should remove your kohadevbox on your mac
23:05 wizzyrea clone it from my github
23:05 wizzyrea and vagrant up again
23:06 Francesca yeah i'll do that tomorrow maybe
23:06 wizzyrea making sure that you have set up all of your config files
23:06 wizzyrea and so on
23:06 Francesca yup
23:06 Francesca theres really only the one config file that needs editing
23:07 * Francesca prepares to nuke kohadevbox from space
23:07 Francesca thanks wizzyrea
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23:52 rangi dare someone to tell paul A to upgrade cos that warning is fixed
23:53 cait not me :)
23:53 cait going to sleep
23:53 cait night!
23:53 cait left #koha
23:53 pianohacker pft
23:53 pianohacker what odd timing
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23:57 mtompset Greetings, #koha.

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