Time  Nick            Message
23:57 mtompset        Greetings, #koha.
23:53 pianohacker     what odd timing
23:53 pianohacker     pft
23:53 cait            night!
23:53 cait            going to sleep
23:53 cait            not me :)
23:52 rangi           dare someone to tell paul A to upgrade cos that warning is fixed
23:07 Francesca       thanks wizzyrea
23:07 * Francesca     prepares to nuke kohadevbox from space
23:06 Francesca       theres really only the one config file that needs editing
23:06 Francesca       yup
23:06 wizzyrea        and so on
23:06 wizzyrea        making sure that you have set up all of your config files
23:06 Francesca       yeah i'll do that tomorrow maybe
23:05 wizzyrea        and vagrant up again
23:05 wizzyrea        clone it from my github
23:05 wizzyrea        Francesca: I suggest you should remove your kohadevbox on your mac
23:04 dcook           That's nice
23:04 dcook           Ooh. I knew about GIT_DIR but I didn't know that there was a "--git-dir" commandline option
22:57 Francesca       eh in that case I cant be bothered (I'm home sick today)
22:56 dcook           Francesca: Sure, although I don't know anything about the devbox :/
22:56 Francesca       dcook I can go get that error message if you like
22:56 dcook           I think it also has an environmental variable and you can do something like "use lib"..
22:56 dcook           Python seems a bit harder, although maybe I just don't understand it as well
22:56 dcook           I like that Perl provides so many ways of dealing with it
22:55 dcook           It's all good though :)
22:55 Dyrcona         Yeah.
22:55 dcook           "use lib" is pretty handy as well
22:55 Dyrcona         Can be inconvenient, yes.
22:55 dcook           It's just inconvenient
22:55 * Dyrcona       uses the last a lot.
22:55 dcook           Dyrcona: Yeah, I know all those
22:55 Dyrcona         Or setting the environment variable PERL5LIB.
22:54 Dyrcona         dcook: There are tricks that don't require recompiling Perl, but most involve command line switches or setting @INC inside scripts.
22:53 wahanui         interesting is sometimes good and sometimes bad
22:53 dcook           Hmm interesting
22:53 Francesca       thats where my devbox on my mac told me to go yesterday after I logged in and it gave me an error message
22:52 Francesca       now that sounds fimaliar
22:52 * dcook         doesn't really want to re-compile Perl just to get to /usr/local/lib/perl5...
22:51 dcook           Makes sense I guess
22:51 dcook           Dang, I didn't realize that the default @INC is set when Perl is compiled...
22:37 dcook           wizzyrea: I think we might be hopeless
22:36 wizzyrea        smh
22:36 Francesca       i dont think i want to know
22:35 cbrannon        If you have .2 of a kid, makes you wonder where the other .8 is.
22:34 dcook           My sense of humour is too morbid for an expectant parent..
22:34 dcook           wizzyrea: Or maybe you "shouldn't" have .2 of a kid
22:34 dcook           ^
22:32 pianohacker     you'd know better than I
22:31 wizzyrea        sorry you just can't
22:31 wizzyrea        you can't have .2 of a kid.
22:31 wizzyrea        2.
22:31 wizzyrea        they really ought to round those numbers better.
22:28 dcook           It would be easier for the second baby I'm sure
22:27 pianohacker     well yeah, but normally you put off that last .14 until the end
22:27 dcook           I suppose the first might be 1.03 and the second 1.17
22:27 dcook           Isn't every family supposed to have 2.2 kids or something?
22:27 dcook           Well, in theory 1.1
22:26 Francesca       lol
22:26 pianohacker     they'll have a perfectly average 1.03 children
22:26 dcook           Hehe. Sorry!
22:25 cait            so confusing!
22:24 dcook           neutral
22:24 cait            2 or neutral?
22:24 wahanui         they are quite expensive at the moment. i should check that with electricity prices :)
22:24 cait            they?
22:20 * dcook         will stop before he starts talking about the movement of bones and internal organs
22:20 dcook           Bodies are crazy though..
22:20 dcook           They seem pretty average sized though
22:19 dcook           We're not saying either way
22:19 cait            a boy?
22:18 * dcook         is planning to take about 6 weeks off too..
22:18 dcook           I have a few lists of improvements and stuff that just won't make it in before bub is born though I think..
22:18 dcook           I'm actually hoping to get something posted in the next couple weeks for that..
22:17 dcook           I guess I should finish that OAI stuff, eh?
22:17 dcook           Yep, March 10
22:17 cait            not long now... march?
22:16 dcook           infant*
22:16 dcook           That may or may not change when I have a crying infnat
22:16 dcook           Nah, I don't drink coffee :p
22:16 * Francesca     is tired too
22:14 Francesca       get a coffee
22:13 dcook           I'm thinking... if I just pretend I'm awake... I'll trick my body into thinking it's awake
22:11 dcook           yep
22:11 huginn`         dcook: (wunder <US zip code | US/Canada city, state | Foreign city, country>) -- Returns the approximate weather conditions for a given city.
22:11 dcook           @wunder
22:11 Francesca       so basically @wunder
22:11 huginn`         dcook: The current temperature in Sydney, New South Wales is 28.0°C (9:00 AM AEDT on January 21, 2016). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 58%. Dew Point: 19.0°C. Pressure: 29.83 in 1010 hPa (Steady).
22:11 dcook           @weather sydney, australia
22:11 dcook           hmm
22:11 huginn`         dcook: (weather <US zip code | US/Canada city, state | Foreign city, country>) -- Returns the approximate weather conditions for a given city.
22:11 dcook           @weather
22:10 Francesca       lol
22:10 huginn`         pianohacker: Error: HTTP Error 404: Not Found
22:10 pianohacker     @weather dcook's office
22:10 * dcook         wonders if the A/C is even on..
22:09 dcook           wizzyrea: Exactly
22:09 wizzyrea        >.>
22:09 * Francesca     has a cold
22:09 wizzyrea        and then you'll have another.
22:09 wizzyrea        and then it will get better again
22:09 dcook           hehe
22:09 wizzyrea        dcook: it's only going to get worse
22:09 Francesca       looool
22:09 huginn`         JoshB dares to disturb the slumber of the deep.
22:09 pianohacker     @who dares to disturb the slumber of the deep
22:09 * dcook         is slowly turning into a nana who can't stay up past 10
22:09 wizzyrea        hi Francesca
22:09 Francesca       heh
22:09 wizzyrea        hehe
22:09 dcook           Went to bed too late last night
22:09 * Francesca     waves at wizzyrea
22:09 dcook           Yeah, that works
22:09 dcook           haha
22:09 dcook           Sage words
22:08 wizzyrea        :p
22:08 wizzyrea        when in doubt, ctrl-f
22:08 dcook           wizzyrea: Probably somewhere
22:08 Francesca       dcook lol
22:08 huginn`         cait: It shall be.
22:08 cait            @eightball will there be more spelling patches?
22:08 huginn`         denials picked a peck of pickled peppers Francesca.
22:08 dcook           @who picked a peck of pickled peppers Francesca
22:08 Francesca       ah right
22:08 wizzyrea        dcook do you have a "find in buffer" in your irc client?
22:08 huginn`         dcook: (who [<channel>] <question>) -- Answers <question> with a random nick from <channel>. <channel> is only necessary if the message isn't sent in the channel itself.
22:08 dcook           @who
22:07 huginn`         sijobl summoned Francesca.
22:07 dcook           @who summoned Francesca
22:07 Francesca       dunno if i've even had a conversation with mario
22:07 Francesca       nether
22:07 dcook           I have no idea what that's about
22:07 huginn`         mario summoned Francesca.
22:07 dcook           @who summoned Francesca
22:06 huginn`         Francesca: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 18.0°C (10:30 AM NZDT on January 21, 2016). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 68%. Dew Point: 12.0°C. Pressure: 30.06 in 1018 hPa (Steady).
22:06 Francesca       @wunder wlg
22:06 dcook           35-40
22:06 dcook           Still cool. Supposed to be up to 40 or something today
22:06 huginn`         dcook: The current temperature in Sydney, New South Wales is 27.0°C (8:30 AM AEDT on January 21, 2016). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 61%. Dew Point: 19.0°C. Pressure: 29.83 in 1010 hPa (Steady).
22:06 dcook           @wunder syd
22:06 huginn`         cait: The current temperature in Friedrichshafen, Germany is -7.0°C (10:50 PM CET on January 20, 2016). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 86%. Dew Point: -9.0°C. Windchill: -11.0°C. Pressure: 30.12 in 1020 hPa (Steady).
22:06 cait            @wunder Konstanz
22:05 clover          could even be craft beer
22:05 pianohacker     this sounds like really fancy-pants beer
22:05 * dcook         doesn't tend to drink tea or coffee
22:05 dcook           That's more my speed
22:05 wahanui         niihau, dcook
22:05 dcook           Hey hey
22:05 Francesca       lol
22:05 dcook           And the bot doesn't count its own messages to the person
22:05 * huginn`       fills a pint glass with Cantillon Lou Pepe Gueuze - 2000, and sends it sliding down the bar to dcook (http://beeradvocate.com/beer/profile/388/13826)
22:05 Francesca       @bartender dcook
22:05 huginn`         dcook: [21:59:32] <Francesca> wahanui gandalf
22:05 dcook           @last --with gandalf
22:04 dcook           yarp
22:04 Francesca       right
22:04 pianohacker     (for #evergreen)
22:04 pianohacker     prolly the bot
22:04 Francesca       whos that
22:04 Francesca       pinesol_green?
22:03 Francesca       hahahaha
22:03 dcook           hehe
22:03 * huginn`       brews and pours a pot of Home, and sends it sliding down the bar to gandalf (http://ratetea.com/)
22:03 dcook           19* pinesol_green brews and pours a pot of Wild Snow Sprout Tea, and sends it sliding down the bar to dcook (http://ratetea.com/tea/wild-tea-qi/wild-snow-sprout-tea/6447/)
22:03 dcook           @tea [someone]
22:03 dcook           Ah, it was random
22:03 dcook           Alas, pinesol doesn't like it :p
22:03 dcook           Nice
22:02 huginn`         pianohacker: [22:01:25] <pianohacker> @seen dcook
22:02 pianohacker     @last --with dcook
22:02 Francesca       cool
22:02 Francesca       ah
22:02 dcook           Francesca: Yeah, it's on freenode. It's the other open source ILS
22:02 pianohacker     no, i think huginn can do it
22:02 dcook           I guess that might be client specific..
22:02 pianohacker     oh, gotcha
22:02 wahanui         somebody said #evergreen was voting on the RM using meetbot's vote functionality. So everyone is saying "Vote yes."
22:02 Francesca       #evergreen?
22:01 dcook           #evergreen was lit up but I don't want to scroll forever :p
22:01 dcook           Nah, I want to know when someone talked about me
22:01 huginn`         pianohacker: dcook was last seen in #koha 1 second ago: <dcook> hehe
22:01 pianohacker     @seen dcook
22:01 dcook           hehe
22:01 Francesca       I didn't actually know so thanks for finding out for me
22:00 huginn`         dcook: (last [--{from,in,on,with,without,regexp} <value>] [--nolimit]) -- Returns the last message matching the given criteria. --from requires a nick from whom the message came; --in requires a channel the message was sent to; --on requires a network the message was sent on; --with requires some string that had to be in the message; --regexp requires a regular expression the message must match; --nolimit (1 more message)
22:00 dcook           @last dcook
22:00 dcook           Hmm Francesca, what's the trick for seeing the last time someone referred to you?
21:59 wahanui         you shall not pass!
21:59 Francesca       wahanui gandalf
21:59 gandalf         ;;
21:59 gandalf         you mean my patch
21:59 * Francesca     high fives natasha
21:59 calabaster      hahahahah
21:59 gandalf         hahahahahaha
21:59 Francesca       hahahaha
21:59 natasha         gandalf - you shall not passss
21:58 cait            gandalf: also not signing off means I can qa it later :)
21:58 Francesca       hi calabaster
21:58 calabaster      hi gandalf
21:57 Francesca       hey gandalf
21:56 gandalf         hey
21:56 pianohacker     hi gandalf
21:55 gandalf         cheers anyway :)
21:55 cait            gandalf: sounds interesting - bit late here already, not sure i will get to it
21:54 huginn`         04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=14647 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, gel1163, Needs Signoff , Make the file name extension dynamic on exporting records
21:54 cait            bug 14647
21:54 gandalf         Would love a sign off on 14647 if you have got time
21:54 cait            thank you
21:53 pianohacker     cait: yeah, I'll push that this evening
21:53 huginn`         04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=15332 critical, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Stable , ModMember not interpreting dates (Batch patron modification)
21:53 pianohacker     oh, nvm, I was thinking of bug 15332
21:53 cait            yep
21:52 pianohacker     oh, right, this one
21:52 cait            now pqa
21:52 huginn`         04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=15607 critical, P1 - high, ---, jonathan.druart, Signed Off , Batch patron modification: Data loss of 'dateenrolled' and 'expirydate' fields
21:52 cait            pianohacker: bug 15607
21:40 pianohacker     kk
21:39 cait            some bad bugs again, but have to qa first :)
21:39 pianohacker     what's up?
21:39 pianohacker     cait: will be for another couple hours, yeah
21:38 cait            pianohacker: are you around a bit longer?
21:29 Francesca       rangi: hope the academy goes well today, I'll be around on irc if they have any front-end questions
21:28 * Francesca     thinks its very cool
21:28 Francesca       oh wow I didn't set that one
21:28 wahanui         hmmm... Francesca is a junior developer with koha (suprise)
21:28 rangi           hey Francesca
21:27 * Francesca     waves at rangi
21:27 rangi           thank you
21:26 pianohacker     rangi: will take a look later today :)
21:26 rangi           thats one by gandalf, if you get a chance to push that that would be awesome, then all 4 students will have one :)
21:26 huginn`         04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=15606 trivial, P5 - low, ---, gel1163, Passed QA , Spelling mistake in MARC21slim2OPACDetail.xsl
21:26 rangi           pianohacker: bug 15606
21:20 Francesca       thanks
21:20 pianohacker     nice hat
21:20 Francesca       in fact highly likely
21:19 Francesca       most likely
21:19 pianohacker     Francesca: is that you in the shiny hat in the picture rangi posted yesterday?
21:19 Francesca       hi tcohen
21:19 wahanui         salut, tcohen
21:19 tcohen          hi
21:19 wahanui         the only good morning is a dead one
21:19 Francesca       good morning
21:17 wahanui         *high five*
21:17 pianohacker     wahanui: *high five*
21:17 wahanui         OK, pianohacker.
21:17 pianohacker     wahanui: *high five* is <reply>*high five*
21:16 wahanui         pianohacker: excuse me?
21:16 pianohacker     wahanui: *high five*
21:16 wahanui         what's up, pianohacker
21:16 pianohacker     hola
20:58 rangi           https://gitlab.com/koha/mainline/blob/master/README.md
20:57 rangi           gandalf: https://github.com/adam-p/markdown-here/wiki/Markdown-Cheatsheet
20:52 Mayhem_         ERROR 1045 (28000): Access denied for user 'koha_library'@'localhost' (using password: YES)
20:52 Mayhem_         it shows me this error
20:51 Mayhem_         sorry
20:48 cait            rebooting
20:27 rangi           they are near the bottom of the koha-conf.xml file
20:27 rangi           then enter the password when it prompts
20:27 rangi           mysql -u username -p databasename
20:26 rangi           but try connecting to it on the commandline
20:26 wizzyrea        (our channel is logged)
20:26 rangi           what the database name is, and the username and password, dont paste them here
20:25 Mayhem          what i need to check in koha-conf?
20:22 Mayhem          let me check
20:19 rangi           you did koha-create --create-db eh?
20:19 rangi           check what is in you your /etc/koha/sites/instancename/koha-conf.xml    (where instancename was the name you chose when you ran koha-create)
20:17 rangi           no don't do that
20:15 Mayhem          reinstalling mysql might solve it?
20:10 rangi           https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tl1a2VN_pec  <-- 2000 - 2010 koha codebase history
20:10 Mayhem          still not working
20:10 Mayhem          it's running
20:08 onre            service mysql status
20:07 Mayhem          and how can i check if my database is running?
20:07 rangi           https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JMhiFoEjXc4
20:06 rangi           https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uHav6PL_4Bo
20:03 rangi           gandalf: https://github.com/Koha-Community/Koha
20:01 onre            drojf, nice, thank you for the link. this looks really useful, and if it can't do what I'm trying to do, I know just enough C++ to be dangerous
19:59 drojf           onre: have you looked at metaproxy? i don't know hat kind of data you can feed it, but maybe that is an option
19:58 cait            see... :)
19:58 drojf           cait: no script errors. i did not check the contents of the translations :)
19:58 onre            drojf, yes, that's exactly what I mean
19:57 cait            .. and my errors are probably jsut better hidden
19:57 rangi           lol that wont work
19:57 rangi           onre: /ws 31
19:57 cait            drojf++ thx a lot
19:57 drojf           onre: if you mean that koha can connect to that proxy via sru then i suppose that should work
19:55 rangi           Mayhem: that looks to me like your database isnt running and/or koha can't connect to it
19:54 onre            there's a certain API that provides metadata in MARC21 and DC formats. however, the API is not Z39.50 or SRU, but instead an HTTP api with JSON responses. to use said metadata in Koha cataloguing, I thought of writing a small "proxy" that acts as a SRU server and uses the API I described as a backend. is this a valid approach?
19:54 Mayhem          staff client and opac not working
19:54 Mayhem          Can't call method "do" on unblessed reference at /usr/share/koha/lib/C4/Context.pm line 793. BEGIN failed--compilation aborted at /usr/share/koha/lib/C4/Auth.pm line 89. Compilation failed in require at /usr/share/koha/opac/cgi-bin/opac/opac-main.pl line 23. BEGIN failed--compilation aborted at /usr/share/koha/opac/cgi-bin/opac/opac-main.pl line 23.
19:54 Mayhem          and i got this error
19:53 Mayhem          and ubuntu 14.04.014
19:53 Mayhem          i installed the last version of koha
19:53 Mayhem          and i install everything with terminal
19:52 Mayhem          using VMWare
19:51 Mayhem          I just made a fresh install of koha
19:50 Mayhem          I need some help
19:50 rangi           pianohacker: are you about?
19:50 Mayhem          Hello everyone
19:49 cait            hi all
19:38 calabaster      http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Catalyst_Academy#Bugs_to_work_on
19:35 kidclamp        hi cait
19:25 * cait          waves
18:48 huginn`         drojf: The operation succeeded.
18:48 drojf           @later tell cait translation done and checked. found two errors in mine, none in yours
18:32 Joubu           bye #koha
18:13 tubaclarinet    nengard and khall: thank u :-)
18:00 huginn`         04Bug 8628: enhancement, P5 - low, ---, martin, Failed QA , Add digital signs to the OPAC
17:59 nengard         tubaclarinet http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8628
17:55 nengard         https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/pine64/pine-a64-first-15-64-bit-single-board-super-comput/
17:52 wahanui         bidet, tcohen
17:52 tcohen          hi
17:51 nengard         tubaclarinet final one I found http://elinux.org/RPi_Projects/Digital_Signage
17:50 nengard         tubaclarinet http://xibo.org.uk/ another i just found
17:48 khall           http://www.binaryemotions.com/
17:48 nengard         tubaclarinet http://www.lifehacker.co.in/life/Build-a-Smart-Calendar-and-Notification-Center-for-Family-Agendas-with-a-Raspberry-Pi/articleshow/50505233.cms
17:39 drojf           team german translation done
17:39 drojf           it's resident registration in wikipedia english
17:32 oleonard        Yup, git blame says magnuse.
17:31 drojf           i don't know, i have not looked at it. but maybe nl means that
17:31 Joubu           members/nl-search.tt
17:30 oleonard        Isn't that template a Norwegian library thing?
17:30 drojf           oleonard: why magnuse?
17:28 drojf           is it related to swedish skatteverk?
17:28 oleonard        A question for magnuse I guess?
17:27 drojf           what is "Population registry date check:"?
16:33 gaetan_B        bye
16:00 reiveune        bye
15:27 oleonard        I made it some of the way through the list, but not all the way. On to other things now.
15:26 cait            oleonard++ thx for takng care of the academy patches
14:25 misilot         getting tired of setting permissions manually for ~20 workers every 6 months or so. Adding / removing
14:23 cait            np
14:20 misilot         thanks :)
14:20 misilot         ah ok. onto making more sql to copy permissions
14:19 cait            the 'first level' is in borrowers.flags
14:19 misilot         cait: ah ok. i figured all the permissions would be there
14:18 cait            the second level permissions
14:18 cait            it's for sub_permisions
14:18 cait            it probably depends on the flags
14:17 cait            misilot: yes, it is used
14:14 misilot         as when I add flags to the permissions nothing shows up that table? I am running 3.18.12
14:12 misilot         is the user_permissions table used?
14:12 nengard         morning oleonard
14:08 oleonard        Good morning waking up people.
13:36 oleonard        And it uses authority records, so if you have none I don't think it does anything.
13:36 drojf           ah! thanks Joubu
13:35 Joubu           page
13:35 Joubu           you enable it in admin/didyoumean.pl, then it should appear on the search result
13:34 drojf           where/how do i use the did you mean feature?
13:33 oleonard        That's unique in the staff client
13:33 oleonard        Oh I see it's in a <noscript> block.
13:30 drojf           then the description is even worse. at least i did read it differently. (and translated too…)
13:29 Joubu           There are 2 scripts, 1 for local prefs, and 1 for others
13:29 Joubu           drojf: no it's not
13:29 drojf           yes. i did not know that is not searched
13:29 Joubu           see the local pref
13:29 drojf           oh the local tab is not included in the syspref search?
13:29 Joubu           drojf: they are hidden
13:28 drojf           i do not see any sysprefs with "didyoumean"
13:20 drojf           true
13:15 oleonard        We shouldn't have to warn a user of the staff client about requiring JavaScript. The staff client requires JavaScript, period.
13:15 drojf           intranet-tmpl/prog/en/modules/admin/didyoumean.tt:74
13:15 drojf           i had to translate it
13:14 oleonard        drojf: Where do you see it?
13:14 drojf           how about "Configuring 'Did you mean?' plugins requires Javascript. Possible workaround see wiki-link"
13:12 drojf           *likely
13:12 drojf           may be able to, but unsupported and will like not work? why put it there then?
13:11 drojf           Configuring 'Did you mean?' plugins requires Javascript. If you are  unable to use Javascript, you may be able to enter the configuration  (which is stored in JSON in the OPACdidyoumean and INTRAdidyoumean  system preferences) in the Local Preferences tab in the system  preference editor, but this is unsupported, not recommended, and likely  will not work.
13:11 drojf           i don't think this is a usefulk description:
12:44 cait            hi oleonard :)
12:41 oleonard        Hi #koha
12:18 huginn`         drojf: The current temperature in Berlin Tegel, Germany is 0.0°C (12:50 PM CET on January 20, 2016). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 69%. Dew Point: -5.0°C. Windchill: -4.0°C. Pressure: 29.95 in 1014 hPa (Steady).
12:18 drojf           @wunder berlin, germany
11:46 huginn`         cait: The current temperature in Friedrichshafen, Germany is -1.0°C (12:20 PM CET on January 20, 2016). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 75%. Dew Point: -5.0°C. Windchill: -3.0°C. Pressure: 30.06 in 1018 hPa (Steady).
11:46 cait            @wunder Konstanz - snow melting
11:44 eythian         Almost summery
11:44 huginn`         eythian: The current temperature in Schiphol, Badhoevedorp, Netherlands is 4.1°C (12:35 PM CET on January 20, 2016). Conditions: Light Rain. Humidity: 89%. Dew Point: 2.0°C. Windchill: 4.0°C. Pressure: 30.04 in 1017 hPa (Steady).
11:44 eythian         @wunder ams
11:44 huginn`         eythian: Error: HTTP Error 404: Not Found
11:44 eythian         @wunder Jordaan, Amsterdam
11:42 cait            i was surprised how fast the time went
11:42 cait            yeah i know
11:41 drojf           cait: i will finish 3.20 today and test translations then. took too long to translate yesterday
11:29 huginn`         khall: The operation succeeded.
11:29 khall           @later tell tcohen could you s/o the latest patches on 14598 ?
09:42 * LibraryClaire goes to find coffee
09:41 cait            :)
09:41 cait            wow
09:41 cait            7400....
09:39 * LibraryClaire would like to steal some of that energy please
09:39 LibraryClaire   :D
09:38 * ashimema      is in a dance around the room mood.. he just made a 7400% speed improvement on one of his script in another app :)
09:37 LibraryClaire   hey ashimema :)
09:36 ashimema        morning #koha
09:36 ashimema        morning LibraryClaire
09:36 ashimema        brrr
09:35 huginn`         ashimema: The current temperature in Stevenage, England, Stevenage, United Kingdom is 1.4°C (9:35 AM GMT on January 20, 2016). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 82%. Dew Point: -1.0°C. Windchill: 1.0°C. Pressure: 30.09 in 1019 hPa (Steady).
09:35 ashimema        @wunder stevenage, uk
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09:20 LibraryClaire   @wunder Guildford, UK
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09:19 LibraryClaire   @wunder LCY
09:08 LibraryClaire   morning #koha
08:23 huginn`         cait: The operation succeeded.
08:23 cait            @later tell tcohen ping - I got a question about 12750
08:22 wahanui         bonjour, gaetan_B
08:22 gaetan_B        hello
08:18 Joubu           hi
07:56 * Francesca     waves
07:50 wahanui         privet, alex_a
07:50 alex_a          bonjour
07:43 reiveune        hello
07:37 * cait          waves
06:06 huginn`         rangi: The operation succeeded.
06:06 rangi           @later tell tcohen https://pgp.mit.edu/pks/lookup?search=chrisc%40catalyst.net.nz&op=index  <-- revoked the old one as it wasn't strong enough
04:17 * Francesca     waves
04:12 Amit_Gupta      heya dcook
03:39 dcook           laters tcohen
03:39 tcohen          bye #koha
03:33 Amit_Gupta      hi all
03:24 wizzyrea        oh that would be excellent
03:24 ibeardslee      ohhh
03:23 drojf           looks like letsencrypt is almost in jessie backports :)
03:19 drojf           a very early one
03:19 drojf           morning #koha
03:18 rangi           natasha: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0F0RpG__rpU
03:02 dcook           So damned case sensitive..
03:01 dcook           Man the QueryParser drives me a bit nuts..
02:56 bree            bit.ly/1RwJHY4
02:51 dcook           Hmm... bad data strikes again
02:47 tcohen          true
02:46 wizzyrea        for academy
02:46 wizzyrea        even the script to load the default data could be interesting.
02:46 tcohen          2
02:46 tcohen          i used it before releasing 3.2
02:46 tcohen          there is a perl lib and a cli script which we could just parse the output
02:45 wizzyrea        truf, if they get bored.
02:45 tcohen          ^^ that could be interesting for academy btw
02:45 wizzyrea        that sounds excellent.
02:45 tcohen          i was planning to use it so we can have jenkins compare upgraded vs. clean install db structure
02:44 wizzyrea        safer.
02:44 wizzyrea        and use that instead :)
02:44 wizzyrea        yeah that'd be good, then we can rip out what the other branch has now
02:44 tcohen          either branch
02:44 tcohen          and keep the branch clean/simple
02:44 tcohen          so we can just use it
02:43 huginn`         04Bug 15392: enhancement, P5 - low, ---, tomascohen, NEW , Add a script to load default data
02:43 tcohen          http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=15392
02:43 wizzyrea        good, then you won't have the problem I just fixed in the non-ansible one :)
02:43 tcohen          wizzyrea: it is missing, I was writing a patch for bug…
02:43 dcook           Debate as old as libraries I think
02:43 dcook           naming_conventions--
02:43 tcohen          naming conventions
02:43 tcohen          there was a discussion/vote raised by ashimema
02:42 huginn`         04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=13799 new feature, P5 - low, ---, julian.maurice, Pushed to Master , Add base for building RESTful API
02:42 dcook           tcohen: I thought it was borrowers according to bug 13799
02:42 wahanui         Wha are you playing?
02:42 dcook           Wha?
02:42 wizzyrea        tcohen: does your ansible branch on kohadevbox have a "skip the webinstaller" type feature?
02:42 tcohen          it is /api/v1/patrons/
02:42 tcohen          i didn't know what you were talking about
02:41 tcohen          dcook: ah
02:38 * dcook         doesn't
02:38 dcook           If one had all the modules installed of course
02:38 dcook           I imagine it would be slow but I would think it would work
02:38 dcook           So you should just need to visit /api/v1/borrowers
02:37 dcook           I guess Mojolicious handles the routes dynamically.. forgot about that..
02:36 tcohen          rangi: it actually does run on CGI mode
02:35 dcook           I don't have the time to fiddle with it too much at the moment, so old "svc/*" style I go
02:35 * dcook         shrugs
02:34 rangi           worth a try i guess
02:34 huginn`         04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=13799 new feature, P5 - low, ---, julian.maurice, Pushed to Master , Add base for building RESTful API
02:34 dcook           Hmm, no reply to my comment on bug 13799 about documentation
02:33 dcook           That's about as far as I've gotten with frameworks and persistence so far
02:33 dcook           I've just used Catalyst with mod_perl
02:33 dcook           But I admit I have no idea how it works atm
02:33 dcook           Hmm, it says it autodetects CGI in http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/New_REST_API_RFC and http://mojolicious.org/perldoc/Mojolicious/Commands#start_app
02:32 rangi           ?
02:32 rangi           i dont think you can run the new rest api in cgi mode, unless they added that ability lately
02:32 * Francesca     goes to set up a devbox on her pc
02:32 dcook           rangi: By default, I think it'll just run it in CGI mode... but that must be dreadfully slow
02:31 Francesca       hey tcohen
02:29 tcohen          hey wizzyrea dcook
02:29 dcook           yo tcohen
02:29 dcook           That's uncanny
02:29 wizzyrea        tcohen. Hi.
02:29 tcohen          hi
02:28 dcook           Yeah, git/api/v1/app.pl looks like the sort of thing you'd have Plack start up
02:28 wizzyrea        it's probably great!
02:27 dcook           hehe
02:27 wizzyrea        #bias
02:27 wizzyrea        for no good reason.
02:27 wizzyrea        mojolicious, the name alone makes me not like it
02:27 rangi           but i hope im wrong
02:27 rangi           to use it
02:27 dcook           Just going to make me an import_oai service..
02:27 rangi           i think you have to run another whole mojolicious server
02:27 dcook           Yeah, that's my thought on it at the moment
02:27 dcook           hehe
02:26 wizzyrea        pass
02:26 dcook           Now that I think about it... are we using it with Plack or any sort of persistence..
02:25 dcook           Anyone know if the new REST API is actually being used by anyone?
02:25 dcook           That's how I feel :p
02:25 dcook           ;;
02:25 Francesca       header colour still isn't quite right
02:24 Francesca       rangi: I posted this a while back http://paste.koha-community.org/266
02:24 dcook           I'll buy that
02:24 dcook           hehe
02:24 wizzyrea        their heads are thrown back with happy yay ness
02:24 dcook           And well done!
02:23 dcook           Happy people without heads!
02:23 wizzyrea        Y!
02:23 wizzyrea        I like how Y's look like happy people
02:22 wizzyrea        YAY.
02:22 wizzyrea        i am so happy right now, I just got a vagrant box up that has permissions out of the box.
02:22 wizzyrea        especially ones that, say, install the syspref descriptions :P
02:19 dcook           Totes
02:19 wizzyrea        at a utterly uninformed guess, I'd suggest that if you chuck a .sql in there, you mean for it to be included.
02:18 wizzyrea        neither. was gonna check what the web installer does
02:18 dcook           Didn't even know audio_alerts were a thing..
02:17 dcook           Ah yeah at a glance that looks pretty good
02:17 wizzyrea        there is something so satisfying about vagrant destroy.
02:17 wizzyrea        imma guess they are.
02:17 wizzyrea        hehe
02:16 * dcook         barely even knows what time it is right now
02:16 dcook           I would have my doubts but you never know
02:16 * wizzyrea      wonders if all of the .sql files in installer/data/mysql are mandatory
02:14 dcook           :D
02:14 * Francesca     makes a note to teach wahanui star wars quotes
02:14 dcook           both..
02:14 dcook           Lando quote?
02:14 dcook           Wait..
02:14 Francesca       something about arrays
02:14 dcook           Star Wars quotes are the answer to everything
02:14 wizzyrea        just devbox needed a change
02:14 dcook           "It's not my fault"
02:14 Francesca       ah well I tried to log into devbox and it gave me an error
02:14 wizzyrea        your work was good :)
02:14 dcook           \o/
02:13 wizzyrea        >.> yes but it's not your fault
02:13 * dcook         hides
02:13 dcook           Ins't that something I was involved in..
02:13 dcook           Oh snap..
02:13 dcook           No one likes that
02:13 dcook           <controlfield tag="008">YYMMDD?DAT1 CNT 000 0 LNG d</controlfield>
02:13 wizzyrea        but booo that it broke devbox :)
02:13 wizzyrea        which YAY for that bug
02:12 huginn`         04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=13632 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Master , Make permission descriptions translatable
02:12 Francesca       bug 13632
02:12 * Francesca     decides to find out
02:11 Francesca       13632? is that a bug
02:11 dcook           And just a really misleading error from HTTP::OAI
02:11 dcook           I think it was bad data from someone else
02:11 dcook           Aha... thank god...
02:10 rangi           calabaster: http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Catalyst_Academy#Bugs_to_work_on
02:10 wizzyrea        devbox was broken by 13632
02:09 wizzyrea        btw
02:08 dcook           But this is crazy. I've totally harvested from Koha OAI before with HTTP::OAI..
02:08 dcook           But it's not looking like it..
02:08 dcook           I'm just hoping it's somehow my fault..
02:07 wizzyrea        ugh.
02:06 dcook           HTTP::OAI is not happy with Koha's own HTTP::OAI output it seems...
02:05 dcook           TFW you want to get a lot done but third-party bugs slow you down..
01:58 Francesca       (ignore the semi-colon)
01:58 Francesca       calabaster: #5bad3f;
01:50 pastebot        "Francesca" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "fixing header colour" (6 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/266
01:29 Francesca       ugh dev box on my mac is broken -_-
01:22 wizzyrea        ohh kayy. yeah that's an easy enough thing to fix I think.
01:20 wizzyrea        afaict.
01:20 wizzyrea        i mean, it doesn't even try.
01:20 wizzyrea        that is messed up, the files exist for the user permissions, but they are sure as shit not loaded.
01:19 * Francesca     goes back to looking at favicons and thinking about bugs
01:19 Francesca       yus it worked
01:18 wahanui         you shall not pass!
01:18 Francesca       wahanui gandalf
01:18 Francesca       hey gandalf
01:08 wizzyrea        neat
01:07 cait1           wizzyrea: i think the changes pianohacker and khall suggested would work this way - with inheritance for every value
01:05 cait1           but people still ask for the pref :)
01:05 cait1           much more flexible now
01:05 wizzyrea        that had everything set
01:05 wizzyrea        I keep wishing for a default rule
01:05 wizzyrea        it is nicer this way
01:05 dcook           That threw me for a loop the other day. It's nicer this way I think :)
01:04 cait1           on shelf holds allowed = yes
01:04 rangi           ah ok
01:04 cait1           well no pref no longer
01:04 cait1           in the circulation conditions
01:04 cait1           no pref
01:03 rangi           what the hell is the pref for holds for items not on loan?
00:57 dcook           Man HTTP::OAI is buggy..
00:45 pastebot        "Francesca" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "changing tab tile to avoid confusion" (4 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/265
00:40 wizzyrea        happens to everyone
00:40 wizzyrea        hehe sok
00:40 Francesca       sorry
00:39 Francesca       http://www.favicon-generator.org/
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00:39 Francesca       background: -webkit-linear-gradient(left, #5bad3f 0%,#4a9b32 19%,#4a9b32 77%,#5bad3f 100%);
00:39 Francesca       background: -webkit-gradient(linear, left top, right top, color-stop(0%,#5bad3f), color-stop(19%,#4a9b32), color-stop(77%,#4a9b32), color-stop(100%,#5bad3f));
00:39 Francesca       background: -moz-linear-gradient(left, #5bad3f 0%, #4a9b32 19%, #4a9b32 77%, #5bad3f 100%);
00:39 Francesca       background: #5bad3f;
00:31 pastebot        "Francesca" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "fixing up header colour to match logo" (9 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/264
00:29 dcook           Maybe a good time to test request timeouts :p
00:29 dcook           Hmm, tough to test a server when it's not responding...