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dcook |
I suppose a bare record isn't likely to come up in many searches anyway |
00:03 |
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dcook |
In theory, we could do that thing that other ILSes do too where a new bib record has a status of "n" and then they age to "c" |
00:04 |
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dcook |
And use that for "new records" |
00:04 |
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wizzyrea |
that has potential uses. |
00:06 |
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pianohacker |
I always feel weird about using MARC21's features for their intended purpose |
00:06 |
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dcook |
hehe |
00:06 |
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dcook |
Speaking of which, does anyone have any UNIMARC records laying around? |
00:07 |
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dcook |
MARCXML preferably |
00:07 |
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dcook |
Let's see if the BnF show marc.. |
00:08 |
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dcook |
Formatted MARC: http://catalogue.bnf.fr/servle[…]=4&host=catalogue |
00:08 |
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dcook |
Who knew that "Intermarc" was a thing? |
00:10 |
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dcook |
Actually there must be a BibLibre demo.. |
00:11 |
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dcook |
Hmm looks like the leader is the same |
00:11 |
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dcook |
Err |
00:11 |
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dcook |
When you download a UNIMARC record in Koha, it still uses MARC21 schemas.. I wonder if that's right.. |
00:11 |
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* dcook |
thought that UNIMARC might have a different schema |
00:15 |
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pianohacker |
dcook: into a MARC21 install? |
00:15 |
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dcook |
Maybe no one uses http://www.bncf.firenze.sbn.it[…]/unimarcslim.html |
00:15 |
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dcook |
pianohacker: I'm just using BibLibre's demo site |
00:15 |
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dcook |
Saved to MARCXML from there |
00:15 |
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pianohacker |
hm |
00:15 |
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dcook |
http://demo.biblibre.com/cgi-b[…]?biblionumber=301 |
00:15 |
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dcook |
Makes sense as MARC::Record assumes the MARC21 MARCXML schema too |
00:15 |
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pianohacker |
that's definitely using a UNIMARC framework |
00:16 |
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dcook |
Yeah, I just wonder if Koha uses UNIMARC correctly, but that's waaaaaay none of my business |
00:16 |
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dcook |
But biblio-zebra-indexdefs.xsl for UNIMARC doesn't touch the leader at all :S |
00:16 |
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pianohacker |
it's barely Koha's business. The UNIMARC stuff doesn't get as much love |
00:16 |
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pianohacker |
dcook: could it be in the 100 tag? I know UNIMARC puts a lot of fixed fields in there |
00:17 |
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dcook |
That's what I was wondering, but I don't see them indexing anything for that sort of info |
00:17 |
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dcook |
Like record type |
00:17 |
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dcook |
But surely.. |
00:17 |
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dcook |
Maybe that concept doesn't exist in UNIMARC though |
00:18 |
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dcook |
I'm reading that UNIMARC has a "label" or leader as well |
00:18 |
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dcook |
Oh, and that BnF record had this: |
00:18 |
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dcook |
000 cas 22 3 450 |
00:18 |
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dcook |
Although that looks a bit incomplete |
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dcook |
Even if spaces were accidentally merged |
00:19 |
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dcook |
Ah, this is the one: http://multimedia.bnf.fr/unima[…]notice-6-2010.pdf |
00:19 |
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dcook |
Mathieu Saby linked that |
00:19 |
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dcook |
Years ago |
00:20 |
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dcook |
Seems like the leader is slightly different in UNIMARC.. |
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01:17 |
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dcook |
Hmm... I might let someone else provide a UNIMARC follow-up... |
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01:38 |
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dcook |
At the wrong end of the day in any case |
01:57 |
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dcook |
Now what do we use for warnings/alerts... |
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02:15 |
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dcook |
It's a shame OpacSuppressionRedirect is named that.. |
02:27 |
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dcook |
Hmm git bz doesn't seem happy.. |
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03:30 |
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dcook |
Why are we still using biblio-koha-indexdefs.xml... |
03:30 |
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dcook |
Oh wait, it does have some benefits... |
03:30 |
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dcook |
Easier to organize and removes manual work.. |
03:31 |
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dcook |
I know tcohen added something to make it easier to add conditions... |
03:31 |
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dcook |
bug 14217 |
03:31 |
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huginn` |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=14217 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, tomascohen, Pushed to Master , Add a DOM syntax for specifying conditions on indexes |
03:32 |
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dcook |
Hmm that's inefficient for what I want to do.. |
03:32 |
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dcook |
But it should work.. |
03:33 |
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dcook |
So that should be in Koha 3.22... |
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dcook |
Praise be to tcohen! |
03:36 |
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dcook |
tcohen++ |
03:55 |
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dcook |
rangi: Are you still around to answer questions about things for the Academy? |
03:55 |
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dcook |
Just wondering if I can add the keyword to some more bugs.. |
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04:20 |
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dcook |
Oh, I forgot it was 2016... |
04:20 |
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dcook |
Time to start testing once again.. |
04:23 |
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ibeardslee |
heh |
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dcook |
I was so busy in 2015... so I didn't contribute much :/ |
04:23 |
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dcook |
Of course, I'm ultra busy now... and I'm having a baby... |
04:23 |
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dcook |
Well, I'm not having the baby |
04:23 |
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dcook |
My wife is having the baby.. |
04:24 |
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* dcook |
would be rather impressed if he were able to give birth himself... his wife would also be thrilled by this prospect |
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04:29 |
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dcook |
ICU indexing... you strike again... |
04:42 |
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dcook |
$*)&%@% |
05:04 |
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dcook |
Man... phrases-icu.xml is not in a good way |
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dcook |
Actually, it's OK I guess.. it just looks weird by comparison |
05:49 |
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dcook |
And different to CHR of course.. |
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ashimema |
morning #koha |
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alex_a |
bonjour |
07:58 |
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wahanui |
niihau, alex_a |
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reiveune |
hello |
08:10 |
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wahanui |
bonjour, reiveune |
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* magnuse |
waves |
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gaetan_B |
hello |
08:34 |
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cait |
morning all |
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LibraryClaire |
morning #koha |
08:55 |
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* cait |
waves |
08:57 |
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* LibraryClaire |
waves back |
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09:05 |
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* magnuse |
waves again |
09:08 |
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LibraryClaire |
hey magnuse |
09:13 |
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Joubu |
hi |
09:13 |
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wahanui |
hi, Joubu |
09:14 |
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* magnuse |
wonders if bug 3092 can be closed |
09:15 |
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huginn` |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=3092 normal, P1 - high, ---, rinku7134, NEW , Data values storage and use 100 bug meta-bug |
09:16 |
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cait |
i never quite understood it |
09:18 |
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* magnuse |
neither - and i don't feel tempted to read it all |
09:19 |
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magnuse |
comment #2 from jared seems to make sense, though http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]ug.cgi?id=3092#c2 |
09:19 |
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huginn` |
Bug 3092: normal, P1 - high, ---, rinku7134, NEW , Data values storage and use 100 bug meta-bug |
09:21 |
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cait |
not sure i am brave enough to close :) |
09:23 |
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cait |
it's a bit hard to tell really -it's too big to handle the way it is |
09:26 |
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* cait |
gives up |
09:30 |
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cait |
ok, commented... let's see what happens :) |
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magnuse |
cait++ |
09:36 |
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magnuse |
+1'ed |
09:48 |
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ashimema |
anyone else seeing bug 14892 |
09:48 |
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huginn` |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=14892 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , Initial checkin of an item to be transferred shows incorrect holding location |
09:49 |
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ashimema |
'tis confusing me and wondered if anyone was already looking at it |
09:49 |
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cait |
hm not me |
09:49 |
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cait |
we don't have a lot of libraries with multiple branches |
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ashimema |
thanks cait |
09:50 |
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cait |
@later tell khall please take a look at the comments on bug 14694 |
09:50 |
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huginn` |
cait: The operation succeeded. |
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* andreashm |
waves |
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magnuse |
tjänare andreashm |
12:12 |
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andreashm |
tjena magnuse! |
12:31 |
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* cait |
waves |
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oleonard |
Hi #koha |
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cait |
hi oleonard :) |
12:55 |
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LibraryClaire |
hi oleonard |
12:55 |
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oleonard |
@wunder 45701 |
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huginn` |
oleonard: The current temperature in Heatherstone, Athens, Ohio is -0.8°C (7:55 AM EST on January 12, 2016). Conditions: Light Snow. Humidity: 82%. Dew Point: -3.0°C. Windchill: -1.0°C. Pressure: 29.78 in 1008 hPa (Falling). Winter Weather Advisory in effect until 4 am EST Wednesday... |
12:56 |
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oleonard |
it's our first real winter weather yet |
12:56 |
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oleonard |
Christmas day felt like spring |
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cait |
super rainy here still |
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LibraryClaire |
grey an' 'orrible |
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* cait |
nods |
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cait |
@wunder Konstanz |
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huginn` |
cait: The current temperature in Bodensee Konstanz City, Konstanz, Germany is 5.5°C (1:59 PM CET on January 12, 2016). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 60%. Dew Point: -2.0°C. Windchill: 2.0°C. Pressure: 29.65 in 1004 hPa (Steady). |
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LibraryClaire |
@wunder LCY |
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huginn` |
LibraryClaire: The current temperature in London City, United Kingdom is 7.0°C (12:50 PM GMT on January 12, 2016). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 71%. Dew Point: 2.0°C. Windchill: 3.0°C. Pressure: 29.42 in 996 hPa (Steady). |
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magnuse |
@wunder boo |
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huginn` |
magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is -6.0°C (1:50 PM CET on January 12, 2016). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 58%. Dew Point: -13.0°C. Windchill: -17.0°C. Pressure: 29.77 in 1008 hPa (Steady). |
13:10 |
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andreashm |
anyone heard of trouble logging in to Koha (3.22.01) with Safari? It seems to be connected to Java. |
13:10 |
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oleonard |
What kind of trouble andreashm, and why do you think it's connected to Java? |
13:10 |
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andreashm |
(If the security setting is changed to "Allways allow" in Safari, it works... but that is hardly something that you can require your patrons to do) |
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oleonard |
andreashm: Koha uses JavaScript but not Java. |
13:11 |
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andreashm |
it gives a "server is busy" error message |
13:13 |
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andreashm |
it's sometimes possible to log in if Java is disabled at the server, but only sometimes. |
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oleonard |
andreashm: I suppose if something else on the server is using Java and it's causing a problem? I don't know. |
13:15 |
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oleonard |
andreashm: A server problem would not appear only in one browser. Have you tried another? |
13:15 |
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andreashm |
yup |
13:15 |
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andreashm |
works in chrome and firefox |
13:15 |
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andreashm |
probably others, I haven't checked. |
13:16 |
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andreashm |
(It is another Swedish library who are experiencing this problem.) |
13:21 |
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cait |
maybe they mean javascript? |
13:21 |
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magnuse |
i have seen some trouble with safari, but i don't remember the details |
13:22 |
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andreashm |
cait: possibly |
13:23 |
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andreashm |
but it seems like a strange error, and one that should have appeared sooner if it affected others using 3.22.01 I would think, considering the numbers who use iOS |
13:25 |
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andreashm |
yeah, my bad, it seems connected to the javascripts. |
13:26 |
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oleonard |
Safari on iOS with content blockers active? |
13:27 |
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andreashm |
Safari on both iOS and Mac |
13:28 |
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oleonard |
I have successfully logged into a couple of Koha demos with Safari on iOS, but not 3.22.01 specifically. Need more details about the error I think. |
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andreashm |
I can log in to a 3.20.05 with Safari, but not 3.22.01 |
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cait |
andreashm: maybe a screenshot? |
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andreashm |
it works if I disable WebGL |
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andreashm |
(or sets it to "Always allow" |
13:37 |
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andreashm |
cait: yeah, but not that much to see. I log-in page first and then an error message (in Swedish) |
13:42 |
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magnuse |
might still be interesting to see the error message |
13:47 |
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andreashm |
"safari cannot open the page because it could not connect to the server" |
13:47 |
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andreashm |
it also works if i disable the pop-up blocker |
13:49 |
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andreashm |
is there a pop-up when logging in? |
13:49 |
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magnuse |
not with the ordinary login at least. just a regular form |
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andreashm |
ok, thanks magnuse |
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cait |
andreashm: there can be a modal ... |
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cait |
but that's not really a pop up i thin? |
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andreashm |
there is a modal there? |
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cait |
that's login, right? |
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cait |
if you don't use cas or ldap i think it's a modal |
14:08 |
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andreashm |
yes |
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cait |
hm or shibboleth |
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* ashimema |
ears prick up |
14:09 |
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ashimema |
shib does modal too |
14:09 |
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cait |
ah sorry |
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cait |
then it was CAS? I thin for one we moved it back to the normal login page |
14:10 |
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ashimema |
cas and ldap could too without much effort ;) |
14:10 |
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ashimema |
cas |
14:10 |
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ashimema |
yes |
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cait |
i thik the reasoning was too much text in the modal |
14:10 |
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cait |
so it gets too big .) |
14:10 |
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ashimema |
there was a technical reason i seem to remember.. beyond the modal size |
14:10 |
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cait |
andreashm: maybe try different ways of loggin in - using the link on top vs. using the "login page" .../cgi-bin/koha/opac-user.pl |
14:10 |
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ashimema |
but yeah.. you are right.. the modal could get a bit big ;) |
14:11 |
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cait |
hm maybe something about the redirect? not sure |
14:11 |
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andreashm |
thanks cait! |
14:11 |
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andreashm |
searching for modal javascript safari shows some similar issues |
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andreashm |
something with the bootstrap modal |
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cait |
has someone tested the new feature for uploading files to koha by chance? |
14:18 |
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cait |
the database structure suggests there is a field for 'owner' |
14:18 |
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magnuse |
nope, but i had a couple of reports about uploading local images not working. have not been able to reproduce yet |
14:18 |
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cait |
i just want ti know if ti's uwed and what is in there - ther eis no fk on borrowers |
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cait |
if it's used... |
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cait |
i can't type |
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cait |
it looks like the borrowernumber |
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cait |
hah bug 14849 |
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huginn` |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=14849 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , Owner should be FK in uploaded_files |
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huginn` |
New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 15367: Do not display repeatable patron attributes in the batch patron modification <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]a4c9fd469660e6e5d> |
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huginn` |
New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 15501 - Planned Irregularities are deleted when modifying subscription <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]da2d5fefb43a1de35> |
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jajm |
fredericd, have you seen my comments on bug 6657 ? |
15:53 |
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huginn` |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6657 major, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Needs Signoff , Making 999 visible in framework duplicates 999 entry and affects index |
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jajm |
cc Joubu |
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Joubu |
jajm: does it fix the issue? |
15:56 |
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Joubu |
without fredericd's patch? |
15:57 |
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jajm |
Joubu, it fixed it for me at least (i'm testing on 3.18.x) |
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Joubu |
jajm: I am not sure it can fix it correctly, it will fix the infinite loop, but not the biblionumber tag issue |
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jajm |
I didn't try to create authorities |
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jajm |
Joubu, maybe we should do both ($isbiblio param, for loop), I really don't like the 'if' with an empty body :) |
16:03 |
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Joubu |
yes, definitely, the while is bad |
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jajm |
ok I'll rewrite my patch |
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huginn` |
New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 15512 - Minor regression caused by Bug 7369 - warn on deleting item not triggered <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]233c099411f5e2e2a> / Bug 15473: Make Koha::Objects->find accepts 0 and '' as a key <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]5c3b7f3abc3e7e3c4> |
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reiveune |
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New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 15477: (follow-up) Bug 14100: Better errors handling <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]0fe77d7dc16014ca6> / Bug 15487: Fix encoding issue on localization <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]840aea2c2f82ef97c> |
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bye #koha |
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bye |
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@wunder kautokeino |
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magnuse: The current temperature in Enontekio, Norway is -27.0°C (8:20 PM EET on January 12, 2016). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 76%. Dew Point: -30.0°C. Windchill: -34.0°C. Pressure: 30.04 in 1017 hPa (Steady). |
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@wunder karasjok |
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magnuse: The current temperature in Banak, Norway is -23.0°C (6:50 PM CET on January 12, 2016). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 84%. Dew Point: -25.0°C. Windchill: -30.0°C. Pressure: 30.15 in 1021 hPa (Steady). |
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magnuse: knuckles |
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druthb: The current temperature in Blueberry Farm, Hockley, Texas is 15.8°C (1:30 PM CST on January 12, 2016). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 53%. Dew Point: 6.0°C. Pressure: 30.29 in 1026 hPa (Rising). |
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@wunder 77098 |
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druthb: The current temperature in Montrose (Mandell Place), Houston, Texas is 16.1°C (1:30 PM CST on January 12, 2016). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 41%. Dew Point: 3.0°C. Pressure: 30.24 in 1024 hPa (Rising). |
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druthb |
noticeable difference between home and office--just like fuel prices. :P |
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magnuse |
bag: HI |
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wahanui |
bonjour, magnuse |
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kathryn |
hi everyone :) |
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rangi |
morning |
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rangi |
@later tell dcook you can tag any bugs you like Academy up to and including next friday |
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rangi: The operation succeeded. |
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bag |
learning about BibFrame from talljoy |
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bag |
pretty cool stuff |
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kathryn |
hi bag :) |
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bag |
heya kathryn |
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wahanui |
kathryn is, like, on the left of https://lh4.googleusercontent.[…]s720/ROSS9901.JPG |
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kathryn |
oh eythian .... |
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seriously, I think it's because he wants me to learn how to tell wahanui to do things |
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* cait1 |
waves |
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* JesseM |
waves back at cait1 |
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How are you cait1 |
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cait1 |
good :) |
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cait1 |
and you? |
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JesseM |
good as well :) |
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cait1 |
excellent :) |
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kathryn: :D |
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hiiiiii eythian |
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eythian |
hello |
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wahanui |
bonjour, eythian |
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eythian |
kathryn: what's new? |
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wahanui |
it has been said that new is ok |
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eythian |
oh, it's actually late, I should go to bed. |
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eythian |
later |
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kathryn |
night eythian - not much new. Well, everything is new for Frida, she has a lot of news :) |
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catch you later |
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