Time Nick Message 23:05 kathryn catch you later 23:05 kathryn night eythian - not much new. Well, everything is new for Frida, she has a lot of news :) 23:04 eythian later 23:04 eythian oh, it's actually late, I should go to bed. 23:01 wahanui it has been said that new is ok 23:01 eythian kathryn: what's new? 22:52 wahanui bonjour, eythian 22:52 eythian hello 22:52 kathryn hiiiiii eythian 22:51 eythian kathryn: :D 20:38 cait1 excellent :) 20:34 JesseM good as well :) 20:34 cait1 and you? 20:34 cait1 good :) 20:33 JesseM How are you cait1 20:33 * JesseM waves back at cait1 20:29 * cait1 waves 20:11 kathryn seriously, I think it's because he wants me to learn how to tell wahanui to do things 20:10 kathryn oh eythian .... 20:10 wahanui kathryn is, like, on the left of https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-ofqX3S0SPDo/UGIT5sSfE6I/AAAAAAAATng/bQYU5Chf6Qc/s720/ROSS9901.JPG 20:10 bag heya kathryn 20:09 kathryn hi bag :) 20:06 bag pretty cool stuff 20:06 bag learning about BibFrame from talljoy 20:01 huginn` rangi: The operation succeeded. 20:01 rangi @later tell dcook you can tag any bugs you like Academy up to and including next friday 19:56 rangi morning 19:55 kathryn hi everyone :) 19:39 wahanui bonjour, magnuse 19:39 magnuse bag: HI 19:30 druthb noticeable difference between home and office--just like fuel prices. :P 19:30 huginn` druthb: The current temperature in Montrose (Mandell Place), Houston, Texas is 16.1°C (1:30 PM CST on January 12, 2016). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 41%. Dew Point: 3.0°C. Pressure: 30.24 in 1024 hPa (Rising). 19:30 druthb @wunder 77098 19:30 huginn` druthb: The current temperature in Blueberry Farm, Hockley, Texas is 15.8°C (1:30 PM CST on January 12, 2016). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 53%. Dew Point: 6.0°C. Pressure: 30.29 in 1026 hPa (Rising). 19:30 druthb @wunder 77447 18:45 bag magnuse: knuckles 18:41 huginn` magnuse: The current temperature in Banak, Norway is -23.0°C (6:50 PM CET on January 12, 2016). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 84%. Dew Point: -25.0°C. Windchill: -30.0°C. Pressure: 30.15 in 1021 hPa (Steady). 18:41 magnuse @wunder karasjok 18:41 huginn` magnuse: The current temperature in Enontekio, Norway is -27.0°C (8:20 PM EET on January 12, 2016). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 76%. Dew Point: -30.0°C. Windchill: -34.0°C. Pressure: 30.04 in 1017 hPa (Steady). 18:41 magnuse @wunder kautokeino 17:24 gaetan_B bye 17:10 Joubu bye #koha 16:19 huginn` New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 15477: (follow-up) Bug 14100: Better errors handling <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=e706cd18f0d24365a197ac50fe77d7dc16014ca6> / Bug 15487: Fix encoding issue on localization <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=7fdb4d21d62674b29958022840aea2c2f82ef97c> 16:10 reiveune bye 16:07 huginn` New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 15512 - Minor regression caused by Bug 7369 - warn on deleting item not triggered <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=6233c34484b6361b834788d233c099411f5e2e2a> / Bug 15473: Make Koha::Objects->find accepts 0 and '' as a key <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=6cf157f9930fc1deb47da2d5c3b7f3abc3e7e3c4> 16:04 jajm ok I'll rewrite my patch 16:03 Joubu yes, definitely, the while is bad 16:02 jajm Joubu, maybe we should do both ($isbiblio param, for loop), I really don't like the 'if' with an empty body :) 16:00 jajm I didn't try to create authorities 15:58 Joubu jajm: I am not sure it can fix it correctly, it will fix the infinite loop, but not the biblionumber tag issue 15:57 jajm Joubu, it fixed it for me at least (i'm testing on 3.18.x) 15:56 Joubu without fredericd's patch? 15:56 Joubu jajm: does it fix the issue? 15:53 jajm cc Joubu 15:53 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6657 major, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Needs Signoff , Making 999 visible in framework duplicates 999 entry and affects index 15:53 jajm fredericd, have you seen my comments on bug 6657 ? 15:47 huginn` New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 15501 - Planned Irregularities are deleted when modifying subscription <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=d4c5bce132964a1b789cd84da2d5fefb43a1de35> 15:42 * Robin___ slaps Robin_ around a bit with a large fishbot 15:37 huginn` New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 15367: Do not display repeatable patron attributes in the batch patron modification <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=9030800e78ad7de868e1c5fa4c9fd469660e6e5d> 14:25 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=14849 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , Owner should be FK in uploaded_files 14:25 cait hah bug 14849 14:21 cait it looks like the borrowernumber 14:19 cait i can't type 14:19 cait if it's used... 14:18 cait i just want ti know if ti's uwed and what is in there - ther eis no fk on borrowers 14:18 magnuse nope, but i had a couple of reports about uploading local images not working. have not been able to reproduce yet 14:18 cait the database structure suggests there is a field for 'owner' 14:17 cait has someone tested the new feature for uploading files to koha by chance? 14:16 andreashm something with the bootstrap modal 14:11 andreashm searching for modal javascript safari shows some similar issues 14:11 andreashm thanks cait! 14:11 cait hm maybe something about the redirect? not sure 14:10 ashimema but yeah.. you are right.. the modal could get a bit big ;) 14:10 cait andreashm: maybe try different ways of loggin in - using the link on top vs. using the "login page" .../cgi-bin/koha/opac-user.pl 14:10 ashimema there was a technical reason i seem to remember.. beyond the modal size 14:10 cait so it gets too big .) 14:10 cait i thik the reasoning was too much text in the modal 14:10 ashimema yes 14:10 ashimema cas 14:10 ashimema cas and ldap could too without much effort ;) 14:09 cait then it was CAS? I thin for one we moved it back to the normal login page 14:09 cait ah sorry 14:09 ashimema shib does modal too 14:09 * ashimema ears prick up 14:09 cait [off] https://ffb.bsz-bw.de/ if you don't use the form, but click on "Benutzerkonto" 14:08 cait hm or shibboleth 14:08 andreashm yes 14:08 cait if you don't use cas or ldap i think it's a modal 14:08 cait that's login, right? 14:08 andreashm there is a modal there? 14:02 cait but that's not really a pop up i thin? 14:02 cait andreashm: there can be a modal ... 13:52 andreashm ok, thanks magnuse 13:49 magnuse not with the ordinary login at least. just a regular form 13:49 andreashm is there a pop-up when logging in? 13:47 andreashm it also works if i disable the pop-up blocker 13:47 andreashm "safari cannot open the page because it could not connect to the server" 13:42 magnuse might still be interesting to see the error message 13:37 andreashm cait: yeah, but not that much to see. I log-in page first and then an error message (in Swedish) 13:31 andreashm (or sets it to "Always allow" 13:31 andreashm it works if I disable WebGL 13:30 cait andreashm: maybe a screenshot? 13:30 andreashm I can log in to a 3.20.05 with Safari, but not 3.22.01 13:28 oleonard I have successfully logged into a couple of Koha demos with Safari on iOS, but not 3.22.01 specifically. Need more details about the error I think. 13:27 andreashm Safari on both iOS and Mac 13:26 oleonard Safari on iOS with content blockers active? 13:25 andreashm yeah, my bad, it seems connected to the javascripts. 13:23 andreashm but it seems like a strange error, and one that should have appeared sooner if it affected others using 3.22.01 I would think, considering the numbers who use iOS 13:22 andreashm cait: possibly 13:21 magnuse i have seen some trouble with safari, but i don't remember the details 13:21 cait maybe they mean javascript? 13:16 andreashm (It is another Swedish library who are experiencing this problem.) 13:15 andreashm probably others, I haven't checked. 13:15 andreashm works in chrome and firefox 13:15 andreashm yup 13:15 oleonard andreashm: A server problem would not appear only in one browser. Have you tried another? 13:14 oleonard andreashm: I suppose if something else on the server is using Java and it's causing a problem? I don't know. 13:13 andreashm it's sometimes possible to log in if Java is disabled at the server, but only sometimes. 13:11 andreashm it gives a "server is busy" error message 13:11 oleonard andreashm: Koha uses JavaScript but not Java. 13:10 andreashm (If the security setting is changed to "Allways allow" in Safari, it works... but that is hardly something that you can require your patrons to do) 13:10 oleonard What kind of trouble andreashm, and why do you think it's connected to Java? 13:10 andreashm anyone heard of trouble logging in to Koha (3.22.01) with Safari? It seems to be connected to Java. 13:02 huginn` magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is -6.0°C (1:50 PM CET on January 12, 2016). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 58%. Dew Point: -13.0°C. Windchill: -17.0°C. Pressure: 29.77 in 1008 hPa (Steady). 13:02 magnuse @wunder boo 13:00 huginn` LibraryClaire: The current temperature in London City, United Kingdom is 7.0°C (12:50 PM GMT on January 12, 2016). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 71%. Dew Point: 2.0°C. Windchill: 3.0°C. Pressure: 29.42 in 996 hPa (Steady). 13:00 LibraryClaire @wunder LCY 12:59 huginn` cait: The current temperature in Bodensee Konstanz City, Konstanz, Germany is 5.5°C (1:59 PM CET on January 12, 2016). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 60%. Dew Point: -2.0°C. Windchill: 2.0°C. Pressure: 29.65 in 1004 hPa (Steady). 12:59 cait @wunder Konstanz 12:59 * cait nods 12:59 LibraryClaire grey an' 'orrible 12:57 cait super rainy here still 12:56 oleonard Christmas day felt like spring 12:56 oleonard it's our first real winter weather yet 12:55 huginn` oleonard: The current temperature in Heatherstone, Athens, Ohio is -0.8°C (7:55 AM EST on January 12, 2016). Conditions: Light Snow. Humidity: 82%. Dew Point: -3.0°C. Windchill: -1.0°C. Pressure: 29.78 in 1008 hPa (Falling). Winter Weather Advisory in effect until 4 am EST Wednesday... 12:55 oleonard @wunder 45701 12:55 LibraryClaire hi oleonard 12:49 cait hi oleonard :) 12:48 oleonard Hi #koha 12:31 * cait waves 12:12 andreashm tjena magnuse! 12:12 magnuse tjänare andreashm 11:32 * andreashm waves 09:50 huginn` cait: The operation succeeded. 09:50 cait @later tell khall please take a look at the comments on bug 14694 09:50 ashimema thanks cait 09:49 cait we don't have a lot of libraries with multiple branches 09:49 cait hm not me 09:49 ashimema 'tis confusing me and wondered if anyone was already looking at it 09:48 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=14892 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , Initial checkin of an item to be transferred shows incorrect holding location 09:48 ashimema anyone else seeing bug 14892 09:36 magnuse +1'ed 09:35 magnuse cait++ 09:30 cait ok, commented... let's see what happens :) 09:26 * cait gives up 09:23 cait it's a bit hard to tell really -it's too big to handle the way it is 09:21 cait not sure i am brave enough to close :) 09:19 huginn` 04Bug 3092: normal, P1 - high, ---, rinku7134, NEW , Data values storage and use 100 bug meta-bug 09:19 magnuse comment #2 from jared seems to make sense, though http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=3092#c2 09:18 * magnuse neither - and i don't feel tempted to read it all 09:16 cait i never quite understood it 09:15 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=3092 normal, P1 - high, ---, rinku7134, NEW , Data values storage and use 100 bug meta-bug 09:14 * magnuse wonders if bug 3092 can be closed 09:13 wahanui hi, Joubu 09:13 Joubu hi 09:08 LibraryClaire hey magnuse 09:05 * magnuse waves again 08:57 * LibraryClaire waves back 08:55 * cait waves 08:54 LibraryClaire morning #koha 08:34 cait morning all 08:31 gaetan_B hello 08:19 * magnuse waves 08:10 wahanui bonjour, reiveune 08:10 reiveune hello 07:58 wahanui niihau, alex_a 07:58 alex_a bonjour 07:04 ashimema morning #koha 05:49 dcook And different to CHR of course.. 05:49 dcook Actually, it's OK I guess.. it just looks weird by comparison 05:04 dcook Man... phrases-icu.xml is not in a good way 04:42 dcook $*)&%@% 04:29 dcook ICU indexing... you strike again... 04:24 * dcook would be rather impressed if he were able to give birth himself... his wife would also be thrilled by this prospect 04:23 dcook My wife is having the baby.. 04:23 dcook Well, I'm not having the baby 04:23 dcook Of course, I'm ultra busy now... and I'm having a baby... 04:23 dcook I was so busy in 2015... so I didn't contribute much :/ 04:23 ibeardslee heh 04:20 dcook Time to start testing once again.. 04:20 dcook Oh, I forgot it was 2016... 03:55 dcook Just wondering if I can add the keyword to some more bugs.. 03:55 dcook rangi: Are you still around to answer questions about things for the Academy? 03:36 dcook tcohen++ 03:36 dcook Praise be to tcohen! 03:33 dcook So that should be in Koha 3.22... 03:32 dcook But it should work.. 03:32 dcook Hmm that's inefficient for what I want to do.. 03:31 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=14217 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, tomascohen, Pushed to Master , Add a DOM syntax for specifying conditions on indexes 03:31 dcook bug 14217 03:31 dcook I know tcohen added something to make it easier to add conditions... 03:30 dcook Easier to organize and removes manual work.. 03:30 dcook Oh wait, it does have some benefits... 03:30 dcook Why are we still using biblio-koha-indexdefs.xml... 02:27 dcook Hmm git bz doesn't seem happy.. 02:15 dcook It's a shame OpacSuppressionRedirect is named that.. 01:57 dcook Now what do we use for warnings/alerts... 01:38 dcook At the wrong end of the day in any case 01:17 dcook Hmm... I might let someone else provide a UNIMARC follow-up... 00:20 dcook Seems like the leader is slightly different in UNIMARC.. 00:19 dcook Years ago 00:19 dcook Mathieu Saby linked that 00:19 dcook Ah, this is the one: http://multimedia.bnf.fr/unimarcb_trad/Bsection5-Label_notice-6-2010.pdf 00:18 dcook Even if spaces were accidentally merged 00:18 dcook Although that looks a bit incomplete 00:18 dcook 000 cas 22 3 450 00:18 dcook Oh, and that BnF record had this: 00:18 dcook I'm reading that UNIMARC has a "label" or leader as well 00:17 dcook Maybe that concept doesn't exist in UNIMARC though 00:17 dcook But surely.. 00:17 dcook Like record type 00:17 dcook That's what I was wondering, but I don't see them indexing anything for that sort of info 00:16 pianohacker dcook: could it be in the 100 tag? I know UNIMARC puts a lot of fixed fields in there 00:16 pianohacker it's barely Koha's business. The UNIMARC stuff doesn't get as much love 00:16 dcook But biblio-zebra-indexdefs.xsl for UNIMARC doesn't touch the leader at all :S 00:16 dcook Yeah, I just wonder if Koha uses UNIMARC correctly, but that's waaaaaay none of my business 00:15 pianohacker that's definitely using a UNIMARC framework 00:15 dcook Makes sense as MARC::Record assumes the MARC21 MARCXML schema too 00:15 dcook http://demo.biblibre.com/cgi-bin/koha/opac-MARCdetail.pl?biblionumber=301 00:15 pianohacker hm 00:15 dcook Saved to MARCXML from there 00:15 dcook pianohacker: I'm just using BibLibre's demo site 00:15 dcook Maybe no one uses http://www.bncf.firenze.sbn.it/progetti/unimarc/slim/documentation/unimarcslim.html 00:15 pianohacker dcook: into a MARC21 install? 00:11 * dcook thought that UNIMARC might have a different schema 00:11 dcook When you download a UNIMARC record in Koha, it still uses MARC21 schemas.. I wonder if that's right.. 00:11 dcook Err 00:11 dcook Hmm looks like the leader is the same 00:10 dcook Actually there must be a BibLibre demo.. 00:08 dcook Who knew that "Intermarc" was a thing? 00:08 dcook Formatted MARC: http://catalogue.bnf.fr/servlet/biblio?ID=39237069&SN1=0&SN2=0&idNoeud=1.1&FormatAffichage=4&host=catalogue 00:07 dcook Let's see if the BnF show marc.. 00:07 dcook MARCXML preferably 00:06 dcook Speaking of which, does anyone have any UNIMARC records laying around? 00:06 dcook hehe 00:06 pianohacker I always feel weird about using MARC21's features for their intended purpose 00:04 wizzyrea that has potential uses. 00:04 dcook And use that for "new records" 00:03 dcook In theory, we could do that thing that other ILSes do too where a new bib record has a status of "n" and then they age to "c" 00:00 dcook I suppose a bare record isn't likely to come up in many searches anyway