IRC log for #koha, 2015-10-06

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00:01 dcook Intrigued that "f acqdate,st-date-normalized  < 201`09" actually returns search results...
00:02 dcook As does "f acqdate,st-date-normalized  < 201109" even though that's not a valid ISO format..
00:02 dcook At least not ISO 8601...
00:21 dcook Oh no... I'm looking at
00:32 wizzyrea all is lost!
00:32 dcook Despair!
01:04 eythian <-- trailer for Jaws 19.
01:53 dcook Bleargh... emails
01:53 dcook EnhancedMessagingPreferences :@
02:06 eythian[…]ecurity-questions
02:07 dcook I'm tempted to click that link and yet...
02:07 dcook Oh, we know me.
02:07 * dcook clicks
02:08 dcook hehe
02:08 dcook I'm so glad I clicked it
02:08 wizzyrea oh man.
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03:03 ex-parrot hello koha friends
03:04 ex-parrot my timing, so impeccable
03:05 wizzyrea er, hi?
03:06 wizzyrea :)
03:06 ex-parrot hello!
03:06 eythian ex-parrot: welcome to the fold
03:07 wizzyrea cdickinson just left, but I reckon he'll be back later.
03:07 ex-parrot all good :)
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04:32 dcook I wonder why the OPAC says "Authority Search"...
04:32 * dcook wonders how many library patrons would have a clue what that means
04:32 eythian because that's how you remain mysterious to your users?
04:32 dcook hehe
04:32 dcook Gotta keep the mystery alive I guess
04:40 dcook Have to lose moments when someone reports a bug and it turns out to be your fault. Eeep!
04:43 dcook Hmm...
04:43 dcook Can't fetch from
04:43 dcook Looks like gitweb is up though
04:46 eythian why can't you fetch?
04:46 dcook fatal: read error: Connection reset by peer
04:46 dcook :/
04:46 eythian probably the git server process needs a kick
04:47 dcook Dunno
04:47 dcook Give it a try on your end?
04:47 dcook Might be an issue with my network I suppose
04:48 eythian $ git fetch kc
04:48 eythian fatal: read error: Verbinding is weggevallen
04:48 wahanui i already had it that way, eythian.
04:49 dcook Well, that makes me feel a bit better
04:49 dcook Thanks for that :)
04:56 dcook[…]brary-of-Congress
04:56 dcook I hadn't heard about the cellphone unlocking thing
04:56 eythian yeah, it's weird
04:57 dcook 'She describes the library’s 3,200-person staff as “demoralized,” noting that the pressure to keep up with changing technological developments while managing a collection that holds more than 160 million items and having oversight over the complex world of copyright law can often be overwhelming.'
04:58 dcook Oh man. This is gold.
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05:08 dcook syspref?
05:08 wahanui syspref is only there, so people can switch to zebra
05:08 dcook syspref?
05:08 wahanui somebody said syspref was only there, so people can switch to zebra
05:09 dcook Hmm, I swear there used to be one about the system preferences...
05:14 ex-parrot yeah
05:14 ex-parrot er, w/w
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05:34 dcook Wait a minute...
05:35 dcook That title referred to Silicon Valley, but there is legit no actual mention if it in the body of the text
05:35 dcook Booo...
05:35 * dcook takes a look at the domain
05:35 dcook I suppose everyone wants clickable headlines
05:50 dcook I am so confused...
05:51 dcook I just checked out 3.20.x but it's not right..
05:51 dcook Github shows this:
05:51 dcook my $intype = lc($marcflavour);
05:51 dcook But I have this:
05:51 dcook $intype = lc($marcflavour);
05:52 dcook Wait... master has:
05:52 dcook $intype = lc($marcflavour);
05:53 dcook has "$intype = lc($marcflavour);" for 3.20.x...
05:55 dcook 4c7bd247ef456190199f941f5a4479e948341d70
05:56 dcook But the higher scoped +my $intype; isn't there..
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06:00 dcook Ahh, I think Github is just behind..
06:00 * dcook ponders
06:02 dcook Ahhh, I think I'm also using the wrong version...
06:02 dcook Silly dcook
06:04 Francesca hi dcook
06:06 dcook yo
06:06 dcook Just about to leave for the day :)
06:11 Francesca alright then
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06:56 alex_a bonjour
06:56 wahanui privet, alex_a
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07:01 Joubu heya
07:01 nlegrand hey #koha
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07:18 * magnuse waves
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07:26 magnuse kia ora cait
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07:35 reiveune hello
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07:45 xarragon_ Hello Koha, I just wonder if it is ok to use Koha.Preferences() in loops for search results?
07:45 xarragon_ Existing code seems to use dedicated variables; is it b/c of performance reasons?
07:48 cait morning #koha
07:49 cait xarragon_: you could save it to a variable
07:49 cait and use that in the loop
07:49 cait a tt variable
07:49 cait so both combined - would that work?
07:50 xarragon_ Yeah, absolutely
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07:53 xarragon_ Was just unsure since a lot of code was using the variables and I had been advised against that method, but I guess it was just legacy code.
07:53 cait hm, not sure we think of the same thing
07:54 cait i was thinking something like [% somevariable = prefplugin %]
07:54 cait so the plugin would only be called once on the page
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08:11 Francesca hi
08:11 wahanui bidet, Francesca
08:13 mveron Good morning / daytime #koha
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08:35 cait good morning mveron
08:35 cait how many files left now?
08:35 mveron Hi cait :-)
08:36 * mveron ...had not yet time for counting....
08:36 cait hm maybe better :)
08:37 mveron It would take too much time :-)
08:38 mveron cait: <50
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08:52 gaetan_B hello
08:52 wahanui salut, gaetan_B
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09:36 schnydszch Hi all! has anyone tried importing in Koha stage marc record import a large file full of authority records with 3.20.4?
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09:37 drojf hi #koha
09:37 schnydszch It seems it hangs with mine.
09:37 schnydszch hi #drojf
09:39 schnydszch it stops at 52% 55%
09:40 schnydszch Compilation failed in require at /usr/share/koha/intranet/cgi-bin/​tools/ line 28., referer: http://localhost:8080/cgi-bin/[…]
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10:03 Joubu schnydszch: only with large file?
10:04 schnydszch 83.4 MB
10:04 schnydszch yes only with large file
10:04 schnydszch i tried with 2 records
10:04 schnydszch i was able to import it
10:05 Joubu schnydszch: did you test on master?
10:05 schnydszch 3.20.4
10:06 Joubu Could you try on master?
10:06 schnydszch i don't have one
10:06 schnydszch but 3.20.4 is the newest right?
10:08 Joubu yes it is, that's why I ask you if the issue is still there on master
10:11 drojf hm. i can't git fetch from my vps anymore, connection reset by peer. works fine on my notebook. why would that be?
10:11 drojf oh now it worked, nevermind
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10:13 schnydszch_ Joubo, yes it is
10:18 cait Joubu++ :)
10:19 Joubu What I did?
10:20 cait right now? hm
10:20 cait working on elastic search
10:20 Joubu ha :)
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10:21 Joubu Maybe it won't deserve ++ but --, let's see tomorrow when Robin will be around
10:21 cait I thnk discussion is good
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11:21 schnydszch and now it's 67%
11:22 schnydszch done some adjustment with the server, added 512MB swap file, I had 1GB RAM before, does this even matter?
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12:14 Bibin Helo Koha i'm running koha on a ubuntu version i wanted to do an upgrade did it but afther that my database was empty and i got an indexing error so where did i go wrong ... i had a backup but still want to upgrade
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12:17 schnydszch hello Bibin, we're you able to issue $koha-upgrade-schema?
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12:20 mveron The file reports/ and related template seem nowehere to be used, can anybody confirm? - I did git grep 'reservereport'
12:20 Bibin i did use the upgrade path discribeed on[…]ubuntu_-_packages in the past this worked
12:20 Bibin i had a question to rename koha names during upgrade i normally did not get in the past
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12:22 tcohen morning!
12:22 tcohen @wunder cordoba, argentina
12:22 huginn tcohen: The current temperature in Bo Altos de San Martin - NW, Cordoba city, Cordoba City, Argentina is 19.0°C (9:20 AM ART on October 06, 2015). Conditions: Mist. Humidity: 74%. Dew Point: 14.0°C. Pressure: 29.82 in 1010 hPa (Rising).
12:22 schnydszch $koha-upgrade-schema instancename
12:23 mveron Good daytime, tcohen  :-)
12:23 tcohen =D
12:23 mveron @wunder Allschwil
12:23 schnydszch and koha will take care the rest, provided it's a package install
12:23 huginn mveron: The current temperature in Bern-Belp, Switzerland is 16.0°C (2:20 PM CEST on October 06, 2015). Conditions: Light Rain. Humidity: 94%. Dew Point: 15.0°C. Pressure: 29.83 in 1010 hPa (Steady).
12:24 mveron @wunder Basel
12:24 huginn mveron: The current temperature in Grenchen, Switzerland is 16.0°C (2:20 PM CEST on October 06, 2015). Conditions: Rain Showers. Humidity: 94%. Dew Point: 15.0°C. Pressure: 29.80 in 1009 hPa (Steady).
12:27 Bibin i did not get koha-upgrade-schema information (not sure)
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12:34 tcohen sigur ros day
12:34 schnydszch Bibin, did you run koha-rebuild-zebra -f -v instancename?
12:34 Bibin yes
12:35 Bibin I got Couldn't open collection.abs
12:35 Bibin in the end
12:37 schnydszch why do you need to open collection.abs?
12:38 Bibin the koha-rebuild-zebra -f -v instancename did that not me lol
12:39 schnydszch i don't know any further, can't remember that happened to me ;)
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12:39 Bibin did you get the renam koha file question cause that wasnt there a year ago
12:40 Bibin i said yes maybe i have to say no
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13:06 drojf Bibin: what exactly is your problem? have you checked the about page für system infos? you may need to switch to DOM indexing
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14:10 barton I'm getting "fatal: read error: Connection reset by peer" when doing a git fetch against ... can someone check that out?
14:10 Joubu barton: yep, same here
14:11 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 10020: (RM followup) DBIx update <[…]4b82d95d746e03639> / Bug 10020: DBRev <[…]6d5319704b6cfd85f> / Bug 10020: Remove code related to ethnicity <[…]2a721efde6597847e
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14:34 barton still getting "fatal: read error: Connection reset by peer" on pull from community git.
14:35 cait maybe there is too much load on it
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14:41 mveron I have the same fatal::read error. I think it helps to wait a little bit.
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14:48 Joubu I have a script to fetch the repo every minutes, I will let you know when it is up again. Do the same!
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15:06 drojf lol
15:06 drojf let's all hammer the git repo with scripts :P
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15:37 cait i think that might be part of the problem, i remember that the server showed problems in the past because of scripts
15:37 cait hm i thnk once it was somene constantly downloading the tar files
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16:16 Joubu bye!
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16:18 nitz0 hi koha people
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16:22 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 14667: (QA followup) remove useless file <[…]2e79ce8ffa845ef1f> / Bug 14667: (QA followup) make the UI show 'Label creator' consistently <[…]bfde6306f10eeed99> / Bug 14667: Make some strings translatable <
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16:26 tcohen @seen jenkins_koha
16:26 huginn tcohen: jenkins_koha was last seen in #koha 25 weeks, 0 days, 19 hours, 26 minutes, and 9 seconds ago: <jenkins_koha> Project Koha_Master_U12_MariaDB build #281: FIXED in 53 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]_U12_MariaDB/281/
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16:39 tcohen who has access to the jenkins server?
16:39 tcohen jetty might need an electro-shock
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17:23 fridolin ndil
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17:45 tcohen rangi: can u reboot jetty? it seems jenkins is stuck upgrading
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18:16 * magnuse is about to test tcohen's koha-plack script on a gitified 3.20.4 install. fingers crossed!
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19:07 magnuse looks like it's working - and it's fast! woohoo!
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20:23 xarragon_ Hmm.. I am changing templates, but it seems a lot of stuff is untracked it my tree
20:24 xarragon_ Was the prog theme removed recently?
20:26 xarragon_ Ah, seems like it was removed on Aug 10
20:26 xarragon_ Well that makes my work easier, could have skipped half the changes..
20:27 wizzyrea tcohen: it may be a while til he sees that
20:28 wizzyrea xarragon_: as you have noticed, the prog theme is now gone.
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20:53 Topic for #koha is now Welcome to the IRC home of Koha | Code of conduct -[…]/code-of-conduct/ | Please use for pastes | Installation guide for Koha is
20:54 andreashm ah, there's the logbot
20:59 wizzyrea ew, STRICT_TRANS_TABLES breaks marc import
20:59 wizzyrea in 3.18, at least
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21:30 * cait waves to andreashm
21:30 cait should you be awake?
21:30 * Francesca waves
21:31 Francesca I am awake
21:31 Francesca but its awake time in nz so
21:34 Francesca pianohacker: my friend is curious about the process of hacking a piano
21:36 pianohacker it's whatever process would allow me to play a proper fast single-note tremolo on my godforsaken digital
21:36 andreashm cait: I'm always awake. =)
21:36 andreashm Usually not by choice.
21:37 Francesca digital keyboards aren't as fun as real pianos
21:37 pianohacker no... mine has a pretty decent action, but this is one of the places it falls short
21:38 Francesca weighted keys?
21:42 cait andreashm: hm, good point
21:42 pianohacker yes indeed
21:42 Francesca weighted keys are good
21:42 Francesca @wunder wlg
21:42 huginn Francesca: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 14.0°C (10:30 AM NZDT on October 07, 2015). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 77%. Dew Point: 10.0°C. Pressure: 30.24 in 1024 hPa (Steady).
21:43 Francesca huginn lives!
21:43 huginn Francesca: I'll give you the answer as soon as RDA is ready
21:43 eythian hi
21:43 andreashm cait: heard you're coming to Sweden next week! Woho
21:43 Francesca hey eythian
21:44 cait woohoo :)
21:44 pianohacker it's just the subtleties of the action that it's missing... like that click when it strikes the key
21:44 cait yep, train, plane, train, taxi -koha people!
21:44 pianohacker hi eythian
21:44 andreashm sweet
21:44 cait and of course...
21:44 cait slides?
21:44 cait slides!
21:44 cait oh, no wahanui
21:44 Francesca slides are fun
21:44 andreashm SLIDES!
21:45 pianohacker that's what the train ride is for, cait
21:45 Francesca wahanui slides
21:45 cait wahanui is gone :(
21:45 Francesca noooooo
21:45 Francesca will he come back?
21:45 Francesca @wunder wlg
21:45 huginn Francesca: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 14.0°C (10:30 AM NZDT on October 07, 2015). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 77%. Dew Point: 10.0°C. Pressure: 30.24 in 1024 hPa (Steady).
21:45 cait i think so, once eythian is around
21:45 pianohacker speak of the devil :)
21:45 Francesca eythian: bring back wahanui
21:46 andreashm Well, I'm off, with the hope of actualy getting any sleep tonight. Got my slides readu for tomorrows presentation
21:46 andreashm =)
21:46 Francesca bye
21:46 eythian wahanui: you can do it
21:46 eythian wahanui: come on
21:46 eythian wahanui: it's dark there
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21:46 eythian that worked
21:46 cait andreashm: looking forward to see you again :)
21:46 Francesca hahahaha
21:46 andreashm cait: likewise!
21:46 Francesca wahanui slides
21:46 wahanui Slides are evil! Noone should be forced to write any!
21:47 cait that's right!
21:47 wahanui no it's not.
21:47 cait oh
21:47 andreashm wahanui, scared of the dark?
21:47 wahanui andreashm: i don't know
21:47 andreashm pfft.
21:47 Francesca wahanui: scared of the dark is yes
21:47 wahanui OK, Francesca.
21:47 andreashm ok, bye
21:47 Francesca bye
21:48 eythian <-- this is where wahanui was. Also, an excellent game.
21:48 Francesca lol
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22:02 eythian wahanui: mailing lists
22:02 wahanui mailing lists are[…]ha-mailing-lists/
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22:21 pianohacker cait?
22:21 wahanui cait is not sure where the file is in a package installation
22:21 pianohacker cait?
22:21 wahanui cait is not sure where the file is in a package installation
22:21 pianohacker cait?
22:21 wahanui it has been said that cait is not sure where the file is in a package installation
22:22 cait cait?
22:22 wahanui you are not sure where the file is in a package installation
22:22 cait forget cait
22:22 wahanui cait: I forgot cait
22:22 pianohacker cait is <reply>go to bed
22:22 dac hehe
22:23 pianohacker dcook: wake up!
22:24 dcook hehe
22:24 dcook Yes, that is a good idea
22:24 dcook Sluggish morning..
22:25 cait did you read your library news yet?
22:25 Francesca wahanui cait
22:25 wahanui go to bed
22:25 cait hmpf
22:25 Francesca hahaha
22:26 pianohacker wahanui: cait?
22:26 wahanui go to bed
22:26 pianohacker listen to the rooooobooooot
22:26 Francesca lol
22:26 Francesca poor cait
22:26 dcook cait: library news?
22:28 wizzyrea proquest bought ex libris, bibliotheca bought 3M's RFID/Selfcheck division
22:28 cait proquest bought ex libris
22:28 cait yep that
22:28 wahanui yep that is, like, what I see when I go into circ rules
22:28 Francesca irc rules?
22:28 Francesca irc rules?
22:28 Francesca ugh
22:28 Francesca autocorrect
22:28 wahanui somebody said autocorrect was always correcting peoples usernames
22:29 Francesca ^hole in one
22:29 wizzyrea autocorrect for desktop/laptop is about the most pointless thing ever.
22:29 Francesca its really bad in irc
22:29 Francesca according to autocorrect eythian=pythian
22:30 eythian get a better autocorrect
22:30 Francesca and facepalm-faceplate
22:30 Francesca and huginn=hugging
22:30 eythian also, who types out whole usernames anyway? this is what autocompletion is for.
22:30 Francesca I don't have autocomplete?
22:31 * cait is shocked
22:31 eythian then you have a terrible IRC client and should fix that.
22:31 Francesca I will fix that
22:32 Francesca oh never mind
22:32 wahanui Good, I'm glad you figured it out. I didn't understand, and probably never will, being a bot.
22:32 Francesca I do have it
22:32 Francesca wahanui: shut up
22:32 wahanui[…]ry_Code=DRINKWARE
22:33 Francesca fire?
22:33 wahanui maybe you should put that out...
22:33 Francesca awwww
22:33 Francesca fire?
22:33 wahanui I'm on fiiiiiiiiiiiyaaaaaaaaaaah!
22:33 dcook cait: I'm not sure how popular Ex Libris is in Australia, so maybe that's why it's not popping up for me
22:34 wizzyrea Alma?
22:35 dcook I've heard of people using it back home, but not here?
22:35 wizzyrea probably in universities
22:35 dcook Mind you, I do more support and development than migrations
22:35 dcook Ahh yeah. Good point
22:36 dcook I usually hear more about III and SirsiDynix I think
22:36 dcook And then all the more Oceanic ones I'd never heard of before
22:38 wizzyrea smh.
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22:40 dcook Hmm, I didn't know there was a Spanish version of the normal wiki
22:40 dcook Seems like that'd be the way to go with other languages..
22:40 wizzyrea spanish?
22:40 wahanui spanish is catching up
22:40 wizzyrea forget spanish
22:40 wahanui wizzyrea: I forgot spanish
22:40 wizzyrea that one is czech.
22:40 wizzyrea I think.
22:41 wizzyrea unless you are talking about something else/
22:41 dcook Yeah, if you go to the actual site, you'll see english and spanish
22:41 dcook yep
22:41 * dcook was just wondering about multilingual options for the community site
22:42 wizzyrea It used to have a translation engine, but the plugin went away
22:42 dcook Ahh
22:42 dcook Boo..
22:45 * mveron ...waves to cait
22:45 mveron cait: About 30 files left for Bug 14870...
22:45 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=14870 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , Delete C4/ from System
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22:46 mveron Good night / daytime #koha
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22:59 pianohacker bye all
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23:00 pianohacker ack, it's the music cops!
23:03 wizzyrea !
23:12 bag ProQuest and Ex Libris
23:12 bag http://americanlibrariesmagazi[…]cquire-ex-libris/
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23:26 Francesca bomb threat on campus: only 2 buildings are evacuated
23:26 Francesca I wanted to go home
23:27 ex-parrot I SMSd my friend who works in ECS, he hadn't heard anything
23:31 eythian[…]/1120024471344515 <-- probably connected to the jerkface doing that sort of crap at Otago yesterday
23:39 Francesca yeah probably

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