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@wunder marseille |
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magnuse |
ncip! ncip! ncip! |
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kivilahtio_ |
@later tell tcohen I thought I had slides for both approaches? I would like to receive Joubu's feedback about it |
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@later tell tcohen But I really tried to see the thing from another point of view. |
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@later tell drojf ping |
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drojf |
hi #koha |
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kivilahtio_ |
hi drojf! |
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magnuse |
wow, quiet dat |
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magnuse |
*day |
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cait |
can't say so |
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magnuse |
in here, i meant |
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waves |
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waves |
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is concerned about how Koha handles holds |
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andreashm |
is it correct that all items on a bib will be placed on hold, no matter branch or item type? |
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andreashm |
(for "next available copy") |
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cait |
hm not quite |
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cait |
the hold is entered without an item number |
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cait |
when an item is returned, koha checks the circulation conditions - if the hold can fill the hold |
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cait |
so if the rules there forbid it, the return won't trigger the hold |
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cait |
the hold will exist until an item is returned or checked in that CAN fill it |
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cait |
does that make sense? |
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andreashm |
um, yes. |
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cait |
so for example if the itemtype is not holdable - it won't ever trigger a hold |
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cait |
if you don't alloow holds on damaged... |
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cait |
I'd do some experimenting with the conditions between branches |
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andreashm |
yes, but if one item type is for 7 day loan and one is 30 it would be good if they weren't connected, but they are. |
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cait |
hm |
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cait |
how would you expect the 'next available' to work? |
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andreashm |
and I haven't found a way to limit holds to a branch without it being for a patron of a specific branch. but that causes a lot of other problems |
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cait |
have you takean a lot at the branch transfer limits? |
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cait |
a look |
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andreashm |
I would want "next available" to be limited per branch. (or preferably location, but that I know isn't in Koha) |
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andreashm |
a little, not much |
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cait |
hm khall_away would be good for holds quesions |
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cait |
we ony have one library that send items between branches |
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cait |
can you phrase an example how you would want it to work? |
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andreashm |
A connected problem is that if an item is loaned out on one branch, and a hold is placed, Koha will block checkouts on the same book on another branch. |
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cait |
hm it shouldn't |
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andreashm |
I know we can override, but its clunky (and might cause problems with the self checkout machines I imagine) |
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andreashm |
'it does |
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cait |
let me think :) |
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andreashm |
at least the way we have it set up now |
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andreashm |
=) |
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cait |
are you sending items between branches? |
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andreashm |
we could be doing it totally wrong though. =) |
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andreashm |
We would like books to be sent back or returned to another library. but not sent out for holds. |
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cait |
maybe try AlowItemsOnHoldCheckout |
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andreashm |
so pick-up library should always be the same as the issuing branch |
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andreashm |
I'll look at that one |
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cait |
it coudl remove the warning |
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cait |
it says if the user has it in his hand.. that's prio |
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cait |
so shoudl allow checkout |
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cait |
also OPACAllowUserToChooseBranch |
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cait |
so the users can't choose where to pick up an item from |
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cait |
i am not sure what it preselects - but worth a try |
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cait |
it can only be patron homebranch or item homebranch... and maybe would be easy to enh if necessary |
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andreashm_ |
damn, got logged out. |
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and now Annabelle is screaming at me to put the computer down. (at home today) |
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guess I'll be back later. =) |
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byr |
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bye |
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kivilahtio_ |
khall_away: Can you skim Bug 14698? See the help of atomicupdate.pl -script? max 10 minutes |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=14698 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, olli-antti.kivilahti, Needs Signoff , AtomicUpdater - Keeps track of which updates have been applied to a database |
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tcohen |
morning! |
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hi magnuse |
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magnuse |
kia ora tcohen |
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tcohen |
magnuse: would you accept a pull request? :-D |
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tcohen |
maybe we can start by creating a branch |
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magnuse |
tcohen: sure |
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waves |
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tcohen |
magnuse: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cpGbzYlnz7c |
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tcohen |
magnuse: i will squash a couple commits and send the pull request. thanks! |
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magnuse |
yo! pull request paradise! |
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tcohen |
magnuse: ready :-D |
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magnuse |
got it |
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magnuse |
i'll let it sit a day or two to see if anyone has any comments |
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gotta run |
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tcohen |
bye magnuse ! |
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tcohen |
Joubu: could you review my followup for 14639? I tried to make you happy :-D |
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xarragon |
I need to generate a complete tree from a database table.. I could do it all serverside or dump the list and have JS build it. It is for Intranet only, CMS stuff. If done serverside, should I throw it in a 'Widget' class that renders itself as HTML which I drop into a template.. Or whjat is the recommended approach? |
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cait |
sorry, you lost me |
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cait |
hm a tree that can be collapsed/uncollapsed? |
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cait |
if yes... i think we might already use a jquery library for that in the authorities module |
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xarragon |
Well, it is just that I looked inside the Koha subdir and only found some classes for managing items etc, nothing that generates html output.. |
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xarragon |
So I am not sure if that sort of stuff goes in there.. |
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xarragon |
cait: Ok, will look |
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cait |
i think generating html should happen in templates |
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cait |
if possible... but as i don't get the use case i might talk nosnsense :) |
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xarragon |
Hmm, well, I will look at the example of the authorities that you mentioned. I just stopped because I was realizing I was probbaly doing the wrong thing. |
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cait |
xarragon: there is a pref related to that... might be easier to spot the code that way |
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cait |
AuthDisplayHierarchy |
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wahanui |
i guess AuthDisplayHierarchy is on |
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xarragon |
Was off on my system, but it is very bare |
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xarragon |
Seems like we have treeview: ./jquery/plugins/jquery.treeview.pack.js |
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xarragon |
So I can probably wrangle that to do what i need instead of building a complex nested list structure myself |
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xarragon |
Or rather.. The list I might make, but not the framework for editing the contents. |
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xarragon |
And jstree: ./jquery/plugins/jquery.jstree.js |
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xarragon |
cait: Yup you were right; jstree is used in the authorities detail view. Thanlks |
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tcohen |
oops |
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huginn |
New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 14098: Implement the copy_and_replace action for MTT <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]b9a8eff6f24555b55> / Bug 14098: Add copy_and_replace action to MMT <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]7933ee0fac378dcb6> / Bug 14098: Remove unedeed subroutines <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]=commitdiff;h=f37 |
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huginn |
New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 14098: DBRev 3.21.00.024 <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]c342413f67ca7c5a8> |
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cait |
xarragon: glad i coudl be somewhat helpful in my confusion :) |
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huginn |
New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 12525: Prevent adding several patron lists with the same name <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]ae754d66c7e144d81> / Bug 12525: FIX patron lists dropdown is empty <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]13ff7a7d7a432bcd5> / Bug 14343: Remove the DT pagination <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]a.git;a=commitdif |
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reiveune |
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andreashm |
hey |
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waves |
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waves again |
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huginn |
New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 14760: Disabled courses display in the course reserves list for items <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]af6f38102206863ae> / Bug 14470: Do not allow renew for on-site checkouts <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]70d31342f796edc47> / Bug 14639: (QA followup) make schema mandatory <http://git.koha-community.org/gitwe |
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cait |
hm no drojf |
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tcohen |
@seen drojf |
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huginn |
tcohen: drojf was last seen in #koha 4 hours, 7 minutes, and 54 seconds ago: <drojf> hi #koha |
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andreashm |
cait: humm, AllowItemsOnHoldCheckout doesn't seem to do anything. still get a checkout message. weird. |
| 15:29 |
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andreashm |
ah, got to go again (dinner) bbl. |
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cait |
hmm |
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cait |
maybe it always warns... but lets you check out on the self check |
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huginn |
New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 14683: [QA Follow-up] Similar change for staff <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]7ca3b7a556d246ed5> / Bug 14683: [QA Follow-up] Mixup between mobile and smsalertnumber <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]0812e3a6789fabced> / Bug 14683: Unable to clear SMS number <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]/?p=koha.git;a=co |
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tcohen |
@later tell eythian could you please provide one more Debian 8 box? The goal is to run MariaDB on it |
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huginn |
tcohen: The operation succeeded. |
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tcohen |
@seen Joubu |
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huginn |
tcohen: Joubu was last seen in #koha 3 days, 1 hour, 43 minutes, and 25 seconds ago: <Joubu> Have to run, I will be afk for a week! bye #koha |
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tcohen |
a week! |
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huginn |
New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 14472: DBRev 3.21.00.026 <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]35d6540d0bfc9cdf4> / Bug 12357: DBRev 3.21.00.025 <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]cb889bee1b958b358> / Bug 12357: Following whitespace failures on koha qa test tools. <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]2df238217efc06182 |
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tcohen |
@later tell marcelr your patch for GetReserveFee broke the tests introduced by bug 14464. Please fix them ASAP |
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huginn |
tcohen: The operation succeeded. |
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tcohen |
khall_away: why are spaces bad for passwordS? |
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magnuse |
tcohen: you had some preference for how we submit patches |
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magnuse |
with separate patches for different things |
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magnuse |
is that written down somewhere? |
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tcohen |
usually, but not mandatory, it is not written |
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tcohen |
we always say "separate patches for different things" is more readable |
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tcohen |
the only reference i can think of, is the section that says 'if you want to refactor something (tidy), first fix the problem, then provide a followup for the tidy) |
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tcohen |
http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]#Refactoring_code |
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tcohen |
why? |
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tcohen |
@later tell cait http://snag.gy/0AV8v.jpg |
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huginn |
tcohen: The operation succeeded. |
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magnuse |
thanks, tcohen |
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magnuse |
one of Viktor's hackers had a question about how to submit a large piece of work, in another channel |
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tcohen |
i tried to follow that on my Koha patches, and kohadevbox patches too |
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tcohen |
it is a good common practice |
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magnuse |
i seem to remember somethin about database-changes in a separate patch or something like that? |
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tcohen |
in a community like this, with many people involved... it is important to make things easy for others to test your patches... |
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tcohen |
magnuse: true |
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waves |
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tcohen |
bye #koha |
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cait |
so quiet |
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cait |
magnuse: around? |
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hola |
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cait |
hola |
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ashimema |
mwah |
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cait |
go to bed? |
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ashimema |
can't untill I have this server fixed :'( |
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cait |
oh |
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cait |
so fix the server! |
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ashimema |
problem is.. |
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ashimema |
I only have a symptop.. every cause I can think of isn't the cause |
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ashimema |
I'm stuck |
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ashimema |
and tired :( |
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cait |
what's the symptom? *volunteers as rubber duck* |
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ashimema |
403 for everything |
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ashimema |
on apache 2.4 |
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ashimema |
only koha seems affected though :( |
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cait |
and it started suddenly? |
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ashimema |
somebody messed with the apt/sources.list file.. |
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ashimema |
change one line to stable instead of wheezy.. so the system got in a right state at unattended upgrade time. |
| 22:16 |
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wahanui |
ashimema: that doesn't look right |
| 22:17 |
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cait |
hm was wheezy still the old apache? |
| 22:17 |
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cait |
before it got messed up? |
| 22:17 |
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ashimema |
no idea |
| 22:17 |
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ashimema |
his server is now at jessie |
| 22:17 |
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ashimema |
not sure how many people out there are running koha on jessie |
| 22:17 |
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cait |
did you make sure the apache configu files got updated correctly? |
| 22:17 |
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ashimema |
in what sense? |
| 22:18 |
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ashimema |
I've been trying to work out what's wring with them all evening. |
| 22:18 |
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rangi |
jessie should be fine |
| 22:18 |
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cait |
if it was old apache before... that could explain maybe? |
| 22:18 |
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ashimema |
it was indeed old apache |
| 22:18 |
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rangi |
but the rules for access did change between apaches |
| 22:19 |
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ashimema |
yeah.. |
| 22:19 |
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ashimema |
is that all that's changed though? |
| 22:19 |
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rangi |
thats probably the cause of the 403 |
| 22:19 |
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cait |
can you get the packages to update them correctly? |
| 22:20 |
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cait |
my notes predate the correct fix in Koha... so... |
| 22:20 |
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rangi |
that permission denied problem looks like exactly the fix |
| 22:21 |
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ashimema |
ooh.. |
| 22:22 |
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rangi |
yeah that first one is enough |
| 22:23 |
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cait |
i gave no guarantees :) |
| 22:23 |
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rangi |
Require all granted |
| 22:23 |
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rangi |
is what you need ashimema |
| 22:23 |
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ashimema |
ah.. thanks guys.. |
| 22:23 |
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ashimema |
that did the trick.. |
| 22:23 |
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* cait |
is jsut the rubber duck :) |
| 22:23 |
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ashimema |
I have updated the existing blocks.. |
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| 22:24 |
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ashimema |
but I hadn't added that new one.. |
| 22:24 |
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ashimema |
did they go and change the bloody defaults behind my back to 'block everything' |
| 22:24 |
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ashimema |
seems so |
| 22:24 |
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rangi |
its a good default |
| 22:24 |
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rangi |
but a warning on upgrade would help |
| 22:25 |
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ashimema |
yeah.. it's a great default.. |
| 22:25 |
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ashimema |
just one I hadn't come accross yet.. |
| 22:25 |
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ashimema |
thanks guys |
| 22:26 |
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rangi |
i run a koha on debian unstable .. helps to bump into these things before they get into stable |
| 22:27 |
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rangi |
i probably should try to run early copies of ubuntu releases too |
| 22:28 |
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cait |
rangi: let him go back to bed :) |
| 22:28 |
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bag |
@wunder 97215 |
| 22:28 |
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huginn |
bag: The current temperature in Kittyland Love Center, E Tabor, Portland, Oregon is 20.4°C (3:27 PM PDT on September 07, 2015). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 54%. Dew Point: 11.0°C. Pressure: 30.18 in 1022 hPa (Falling). |
| 22:28 |
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bag |
amazing day here |
| 22:29 |
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bag |
Hey rangi - my pats are playing your steelers thursday night ;) we should bet a pint on the game ;) |
| 22:30 |
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rangi |
heh you're on |
| 22:33 |
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ashimema |
rangi.. I've got a koha on jessie already.. didn't need that particular trick though.. |
| 22:33 |
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ashimema |
oh well |
| 22:34 |
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ashimema |
I'm off.. have a good day peeps |
| 22:35 |
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rangi |
cya ashimema |
| 22:38 |
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bag |
later ashimema |
| 22:39 |
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bag |
ok I’m back to cleaning the garage :) once Ginny is awake we’re going for a hike w00t w00t |
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