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wizzyrea |
I have a really baffling problem |
| 01:15 |
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wizzyrea |
and maybe there's an ubuntu/apache expert out there that has a thought |
| 01:16 |
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wizzyrea |
so the task scheduler works fine in Master on debian/apache 2.2 (I still need to test debian/apache2.4) |
| 01:16 |
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wizzyrea |
basically what happens |
| 01:17 |
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wizzyrea |
is that when you add a job, it's added (you can see it in /var/spool/cron/atjobs) - but it's added as daemon:daemon with no permissions |
| 01:17 |
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wizzyrea |
so we go to ask at what's in the queue, and it can't access the list |
| 01:17 |
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wizzyrea |
so it says "failed to add job" which is what it's supposed to do |
| 01:18 |
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wizzyrea |
normally, at least on debian/2.2 |
| 01:18 |
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wizzyrea |
it adds the job owned by the instance user |
| 01:18 |
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wizzyrea |
and when we ask for the list, it has no trouble |
| 01:19 |
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wizzyrea |
so my question is this: where should I even start, or what words are useful for searching for the solution |
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eythian |
http://mashable.com/2015/09/02[…]-whale-photobomb/ |
| 02:29 |
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Francesca |
hahahaha |
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Francesca |
that whale totally makes my day |
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Francesca |
wahanui photobomb is http://mashable.com/2015/09/02[…]-whale-photobomb/ |
| 02:31 |
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wahanui |
OK, Francesca. |
| 02:36 |
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wizzyrea |
hehe cute |
| 02:45 |
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cdickinson |
rangi, wizzyrea, eythian, kathryn: http://www.thefrogurtstore.co.nz/ - Francesca and I are heading over here later on to relax a bit after today, I don't suppose any of you wanted to join us? |
| 02:45 |
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cdickinson |
totally understand if you can't though |
| 02:46 |
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cdickinson |
huh, they spell it frogurt |
| 02:46 |
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cdickinson |
but the Internet seems to disagree |
| 02:46 |
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wizzyrea |
@wunder nzwn |
| 02:46 |
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huginn |
wizzyrea: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 11.0°C (2:30 PM NZST on September 03, 2015). Conditions: Light Rain Showers. Humidity: 71%. Dew Point: 6.0°C. Pressure: 29.65 in 1004 hPa (Steady). |
| 02:46 |
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cdickinson |
lol |
| 02:46 |
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Francesca |
I was right |
| 02:46 |
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Francesca |
about the spelling |
| 02:46 |
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wizzyrea |
you thought it would be froghurt? |
| 02:46 |
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cdickinson |
yeah |
| 02:46 |
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cdickinson |
because yoghurt |
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kathryn |
thanks cdickinson :) I have to run away and fetch my baby though :) lunctime another day! |
| 02:46 |
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wizzyrea |
x wrong |
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wizzyrea |
:) |
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eythian |
could do for a bit |
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cdickinson |
awesome |
| 02:47 |
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wizzyrea |
ya I could stuff some yogurt in my face I think. |
| 02:47 |
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wizzyrea |
don't tell my kid though! |
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wizzyrea |
^.^ |
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Francesca |
I won't |
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cdickinson |
I totally would |
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wizzyrea |
haha |
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Francesca |
don't you dare |
| 02:48 |
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cdickinson |
I was him once after all |
| 02:48 |
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wizzyrea |
hehe he's always begging me to go there. I only give in sometimes. :P |
| 02:48 |
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Francesca |
lol |
| 02:48 |
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cdickinson |
oh man, that's awesome |
| 02:49 |
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eythian |
/msg søren wizzyrea is going for frogurt |
| 02:49 |
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wizzyrea |
hahaha |
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* Francesca |
dies |
| 02:49 |
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wizzyrea |
A+ for the ø |
| 02:49 |
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cdickinson |
I was thinking the same thing |
| 02:49 |
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Francesca |
is that how you spell it? |
| 02:49 |
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wizzyrea |
(even though technically he doesn't spell it that way - he totally could though) |
| 02:49 |
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Francesca |
lol |
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rangi |
its a fun store, but not today thanks |
| 02:50 |
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cdickinson |
all goods, rangi |
| 02:50 |
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eythian |
heh |
| 02:51 |
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Francesca |
lol |
| 02:51 |
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Francesca |
maybe he will |
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cdickinson |
is it more effort, but better |
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cdickinson |
not what I'd call hipster, but it's not bad IMO |
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cdickinson |
it is* |
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Francesca |
makes total sense there cdickinson |
| 02:51 |
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cdickinson |
30 hours awake |
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Francesca |
slow clap |
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cdickinson |
please don't judge me |
| 02:52 |
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Francesca |
wahanui dickinson is <reply> I've been awake for 30 hours. Please don't judge me. |
| 02:52 |
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wahanui |
...but dickinson is also|dirt poor most of the time... |
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Francesca |
cdickinson is also <reply> I've been awake for 30 hours. Please don't judge me. |
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wahanui |
okay, Francesca. |
| 02:52 |
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cdickinson |
wow, thanks Francesca |
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Francesca |
you're welcome :P |
| 02:52 |
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cdickinson |
I like insulting myself as well\ |
| 02:53 |
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cdickinson |
I totally deserve that one though |
| 02:53 |
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cdickinson |
does anyone else know what MCollective is, and has tried to set it up? |
| 02:54 |
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cdickinson |
it is one of those unnecessarily complicated things that takes forever to get going, and that is why my night was long |
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mtj |
hey eythian, about? |
| 03:13 |
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eythian |
yep |
| 03:16 |
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Francesca |
hey we're gonna go grab frogurt soon |
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irma |
hi all :-) Seeing that it is GBSD, what are the most useful bugs to sign off on? |
| 04:10 |
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eythian |
http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]bug_squashing_day <-- irma |
| 04:10 |
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irma |
CALYX has a list ready to work on but perhaps there are different priorities we should focus on |
| 04:10 |
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irma |
thanks eythian will take a look :-) |
| 04:11 |
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irma |
Re "Check old open bugs are still relevant" <> http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]ow_bug.cgi?id=444 |
| 04:11 |
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huginn |
Bug 444: enhancement, P2, ---, paul.poulain, REOPENED , Manual Credits does not support authorised values (Manual invoices do) |
| 04:12 |
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irma |
we think this might not be a feature that would be used a lot ... |
| 04:13 |
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wizzyrea |
"this is not a bug it's a missing improvement" well yeah. |
| 04:13 |
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wizzyrea |
that's pretty much everything :P |
| 04:14 |
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mtj |
peeps, is it possible to have a perl script, for a koha atomic update - rather than just raw SQL? |
| 04:15 |
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irma |
do you think it would be used often wizzyrea? |
| 04:15 |
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wizzyrea |
i have no idea |
| 04:16 |
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irma |
doesn't the age of the entries suggest it is not in high demand and could be closed? |
| 04:16 |
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mtj |
aah, confimed yes to my question :) |
| 04:17 |
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mtj |
irma: you should not close a bug because it is old :) |
| 04:19 |
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mtj |
to me, 444 is still a valid (but old) bug |
| 04:23 |
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wizzyrea |
yeah, mark it enhancement |
| 04:23 |
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wizzyrea |
if it's not already |
| 04:24 |
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wizzyrea |
because it's possible that bug predates the "enhancement" tag |
| 04:25 |
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irma |
it is marked as enhancement |
| 04:25 |
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irma |
ok moving on to another bug... |
| 04:27 |
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mtj |
does anyone have an example of a koha patch with an atomic *perl* update? |
| 04:31 |
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mtj |
the wiki page has examples for atomic sql files, but not perl |
| 04:32 |
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wizzyrea |
I'm not sure what you mean |
| 04:32 |
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wizzyrea |
eli5 |
| 04:32 |
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wizzyrea |
eli5 is <reply> explain like I'm 5 |
| 04:35 |
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mtj |
http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]/Database_updates |
| 04:35 |
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mtj |
sorry, gimme 5 |
| 04:36 |
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wizzyrea |
tbh I think they don't do those that way, I think they put those in the updatedatabase still. I could be smokin' it though |
| 04:36 |
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wizzyrea |
those = db updates that require processing of some sort |
| 04:37 |
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wizzyrea |
but, I DON'T KNOW so yeah don't take that for anything other than rambling. |
| 04:37 |
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rangi |
well everything gets shifted to updatedatabase on release |
| 04:37 |
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eythian |
can you browse back through master to see if there are examples in there? |
| 04:37 |
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rangi |
so you shouldnt ever find any in master |
| 04:37 |
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wizzyrea |
git grep on that folder might help you |
| 04:37 |
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rangi |
or any sql ones for that matter |
| 04:37 |
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rangi |
only in patches |
| 04:37 |
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rangi |
ie the idea is you dont push them |
| 04:38 |
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rangi |
the RM moves them to the updatedatabase.pl before pushing |
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wizzyrea |
ah yeah they'd never be in there |
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wizzyrea |
duh |
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rangi |
use splinter |
| 04:38 |
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rangi |
sorry splitter |
| 04:38 |
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rangi |
http://splitter.koha-community.org/ |
| 04:38 |
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wizzyrea |
https://camo.githubusercontent[…]4726e6e6f2e6a7067 |
| 04:38 |
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wizzyrea |
oh splitter. |
| 04:38 |
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wizzyrea |
^.^ |
| 04:39 |
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rangi |
http://splitter.koha-community.org/files |
| 04:39 |
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rangi |
then search for atomic |
| 04:42 |
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mtj |
nice, works rangi :) |
| 04:42 |
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mtj |
bug 13624 |
| 04:42 |
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wahanui |
i think bug 13624 is back in the NSO queue, if you fancy giving it a try ;) |
| 04:42 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=13624 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, charles.farmer, Signed Off , Remove columns branchcode, categorytype from table overduerules_transport_types |
| 04:43 |
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mtj |
there are indeed some tricks to a valid atomic .pl file |
| 04:44 |
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mtj |
i'll add a .pl example to the wiki |
| 04:45 |
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wizzyrea |
hooray |
| 04:47 |
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mtj |
hmm, bug 10937 is a nicer example |
| 04:47 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=10937 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, maxime.beaulieu, Passed QA , Option to hide and group itemtypes from advanced search |
| 04:57 |
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mtj |
does anyone have a problem with using koha-shell, then having a wonky bash shell on exit? |
| 04:58 |
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mtj |
i get no linefeed after hitting return |
| 04:58 |
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eythian |
on exit? |
| 04:59 |
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eythian |
that's unexpected |
| 04:59 |
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eythian |
but not impossible |
| 04:59 |
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eythian |
try entering "stty sane" and see if that helps. |
| 04:59 |
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mtj |
yeah, tried that one :/ |
| 05:00 |
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eythian |
tell your terminal to reset |
| 05:00 |
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ibeardslee |
Sit Terminal Sit |
| 05:01 |
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ibeardslee |
.. or reset |
| 05:01 |
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pastebot |
"mtj" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "koha-shell glitch" (7 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/64 |
| 05:01 |
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ibeardslee |
oh reset |
| 05:01 |
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eythian |
> Session terminated, terminating shell... |
| 05:01 |
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eythian |
what is that from? |
| 05:02 |
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mtj |
from a 'koha-shell -l foofoo' |
| 05:02 |
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eythian |
it doesn't say that |
| 05:03 |
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mtj |
yeah, sorry |
| 05:03 |
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mtj |
hey, 'reset' fixed it :0) |
| 05:04 |
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mtj |
too easy, thanks eythian |
| 05:04 |
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eythian |
probably whatever was terminated was messing with the terminal and left it in a weird state. |
| 05:04 |
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eythian |
It happens |
| 05:05 |
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mtj |
hmm, --reset arg might be a handy patch |
| 05:06 |
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eythian |
the only thing we can do from inside the terminal is stty sane |
| 05:06 |
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eythian |
oh, there's reset in bash too |
| 05:06 |
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eythian |
I don't know exactly what that does |
| 05:07 |
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eythian |
it probably would have also worked |
| 05:07 |
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eythian |
maybe also tset |
| 05:09 |
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mtj |
the ncurses /usr/bin/reset worked for me |
| 05:09 |
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mtj |
its been busted for ages for me, so im happy to sort it |
| 05:09 |
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eythian |
oh, I was thinking of the terminal reset command, usually in a menu |
| 05:15 |
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mtj |
gotcha :) |
| 05:17 |
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mtj |
ill do some experimenting with the reset stuff |
| 05:19 |
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eythian |
but, I don't think it was strictly something to do with koha-shell, it was most likely the interaction of koha-shell and something else, so putting the reset into it is really the wrong place., |
| 05:20 |
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mtj |
yeah, i agree |
| 05:22 |
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mtj |
you coud also update the man page, saying 'try reset, if your shell goes wonky' |
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* magnuse |
waves |
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reiveune |
hello |
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alex_a |
bonjour |
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Joubu |
morning |
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alex_a |
hello Joubu |
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* magnuse |
waves again |
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cait |
it's GBSD!!! |
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magnuse |
woohoo! |
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magnuse |
are there any places in koha where we use TT *not* to render a whole page, but to process some chunk of template, and then return the result as a string to a script that then does something with that string? |
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rangi |
you cant process just a chunk of a template |
| 07:33 |
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rangi |
to do you mean, process a small template? |
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magnuse |
ah yes, sorry |
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rangi |
we basically do that all the time |
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kivilahtio |
magnuse: I think I did something like that, then I was scolded :) |
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magnuse |
like messages, but i guess we don't use tt for that |
| 07:36 |
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gaetan_B |
hello |
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kivilahtio |
magnuse: we should! |
| 07:36 |
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magnuse |
yeah, i saw a bug for that :-) |
| 07:36 |
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kivilahtio |
magnuse: we could get rid of the custom templating engine the notifications use and instead use TT |
| 07:36 |
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magnuse |
bug 14757 |
| 07:36 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=14757 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, kyle.m.hall, NEW , Allow the use of Template Toolkit syntax for slips and notices |
| 07:37 |
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kivilahtio |
great! |
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Joubu |
rangi: nice signoff session :) |
| 07:37 |
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cait |
magnuse: csv profiles |
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rangi |
magnuse: see C4::Templates |
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cait |
yep rangi++ for starting off the gbsd |
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rangi |
the output sub |
| 07:37 |
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rangi |
see how we return $data at the bottom that sub |
| 07:37 |
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rangi |
thats a processed template |
| 07:37 |
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rangi |
we do this all the time |
| 07:38 |
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rangi |
usually what we do with it is |
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rangi |
output_html_with_http_headers $input, $cookie, $template->output; |
| 07:38 |
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rangi |
but you can totally do |
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cait |
I think you can use TT in CSV profiles now - is what i wanted to say - but not sure it's helpful for you :) |
| 07:38 |
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rangi |
my $processed_template = $template->output(); |
| 07:38 |
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rangi |
and then do whatever you want with it |
| 07:39 |
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Joubu |
bug 12404 |
| 07:39 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=12404 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Master , CSV profiles improvements (concatenations, substrings, conditions...) |
| 07:39 |
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magnuse |
ah thanks rangi, i think i see what yu mean |
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marcelr |
hi #koha |
| 07:43 |
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magnuse |
rangi: i'm getting my ncip stuff up and running in koha, so far i have XML-as-string in my script, thinking that having it in separate files and using tt is slightly better |
| 07:44 |
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rangi |
ah yeah |
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rangi |
i used tt for the ncip stuff i did |
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rangi |
you could look at that |
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* rangi |
is testing bug 14722 |
| 07:44 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=14722 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Needs Signoff , Refactor the export tool |
| 07:45 |
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rangi |
that might be my last one for the day, its taking a while to test |
| 07:45 |
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marcelr |
rangi++ |
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magnuse |
rangi++ |
| 07:46 |
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magnuse |
rangi: oh i have looked at that a whole lot! :-) (if you mean the NCIPServer) working on the client side now |
| 07:46 |
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magnuse |
@karma |
| 07:46 |
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huginn |
magnuse: Highest karma: "cait" (256), "Joubu" (217), and "tcohen" (201). Lowest karma: "ie" (-25), "<-" (-18), and "-" (-17). You (magnuse) are ranked 11 out of 470. |
| 07:46 |
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cait |
I will be tweeting from KohaGBSD today - please feed me news :) |
| 07:46 |
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magnuse |
cait++ |
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cait |
thx to magnuse for sharing the account details |
| 07:49 |
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Joubu |
rangi: I should confess: I haven't tested very much the cmd line script... :-/ |
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rangi |
i think thats a lot less important |
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rangi |
ill be spending most of my time on the web side, since most end users would interact with that, mostly only devs/IT people would use the cli .. |
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rangi |
http://www.stuff.co.nz/technol[…]me-to-read-papers <--- built by Catalyst all with FOSS |
| 07:57 |
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magnuse |
w00t! |
| 08:00 |
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cait |
ok, messed up the last tweet a bit |
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xarragon |
When adding a new template to the OPAC, do I have to add it to some list or similar? I copied opac-news and my .pl file can call opac-news.tt but not my copied version. Fails att including some css stuff.. |
| 08:10 |
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mtj |
a file perm bug |
| 08:10 |
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mtj |
? |
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magnuse |
xarragon: you have to specify the template at the top of the .pl |
| 08:11 |
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mtj |
hey nice link rangi ^ :) |
| 08:11 |
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magnuse |
xarragon: like "template_name => 'ill/ill-request.tt'," |
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magnuse |
hm, i might be barking up the wrong tree, though |
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cait |
I'd like to set a first goal for today: get the needs sign-off below 200! :) |
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marcelr |
cait: 209 now |
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marcelr |
you are modest |
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cait |
marcelr: small steps... this is only the goal for the next 30 mins... :P |
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marcelr |
ok |
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rangi |
it was 221 |
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rangi |
i reckon 150 is achievable |
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cait |
depends if there is easy stuff... or only hard things |
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rangi |
theres a lot of small ones |
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cait |
might be worth saving some string changes for later today and when kyle is having his session |
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cait |
i hope we will get some testing from the US at that time |
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cait |
and elsewhere of course :) |
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janPasi__ |
why does send_overduemail.pl --claimletters say "you must define the hostname parameter when using --removestale or --claimletters"? |
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janPasi__ |
where exactly am I to define it? |
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cait |
janPasi hm where did you get that script? |
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magnuse |
rangi: i can't figure out what the third param to my C4::Templates->new should be... any hints? $template = C4::Templates->new( 'intranet', 'ill/nncipp/ItemShipped.xml', '' ); gives Template process failed: file error - ill/nncipp/ItemShipped.xml: not found at /home/magnus/scripts/kohaclone/C4/Templates.pm line 121. |
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janPasi__ |
cait: it's not part of koha? |
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cait |
janPasi I haven't seen soemthing with that name in Koha so far - is it from a bug? |
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cait |
it might be, just not making the connection right now |
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janPasi__ |
it says "copyright anonymous, this file is part of koha" |
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cait |
i think i made the wrong connection thinking about borrowers overdues |
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janPasi__ |
it could be written in joensuu, so I'm not really sure if it's part of "international" koha |
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cait |
where does it live, we can just check on git |
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janPasi__ |
it wants tha hostname after -h parameter, after that it spits out some html :D |
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janPasi__ |
it's in misc/cronjobs |
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Joubu |
magnuse: look at C4::InstallAuth::get_template_and_user |
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Joubu |
there is a call to the C4::Template constructor |
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cait |
janPasi: don't see it http://git.koha-community.org/[…]758a49a8b567c40a9 |
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janPasi__ |
with some german text inside the html :D |
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cait |
janPasi: now it sounds really weird :) |
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janPasi__ |
indeed :D |
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Joubu |
where $tmplbase (3rd param) is the template_name |
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Joubu |
but actually it's module/filename (something like acquisition/basket.tt) |
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janPasi__ |
"Sind SIe sicher, dass Sie Ihre Succhistorie läschen mächten?" |
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janPasi__ |
"Vorsicht: Donner wetter sturm und blitz!" |
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janPasi__ |
not really though, it didn't say the last thing |
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cait |
janPasi: That sounds really really strange - but it doesn't appear to be in Koha proper |
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magnuse |
Joubu: and the second param should be the absolute path to the same file? |
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janPasi__ |
"Vorsicht: Dies kann nicht räkgängig gemacht werden." really |
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cait |
janPasi those soudn like existing opac strings... from the search history page |
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cait |
no idea hwo they woudl end up in a script like that |
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janPasi__ |
weird... |
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wahanui |
weird is normal after a while :) |
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Joubu |
magnuse: yes it looks like |
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magnuse |
cool, got something that works now, at least Joubu++ rangi++ |
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Joubu |
gaetan_B: do you know why there is no matching rule on issn in the fr-FR unimarc install file? |
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Joubu |
gaetan_B: well, forget that... |
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wahanui |
Joubu: I forgot that |
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Joubu |
wahanui-- |
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wahanui |
Joubu: huh? |
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gaetan_B |
ok :) |
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Joubu |
gaetan_B: actually there is no matchpoint defined at all for fr-FR and unimarc |
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gaetan_B |
it is something that keeps coming and going then ? i know there are some instances for which i have to configure them manually |
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gaetan_B |
and some for which they seem to be there already |
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gaetan_B |
(it could just be that these were marc21 instances) |
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gaetan_B |
it would seem like a good idea to have ISBN and ISSN defined by default |
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gaetan_B |
also, Koha does a duplicate check even if you have no matching rules defined, but i don't know how it works exactly |
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gaetan_B |
and what happens to this default check once you start defining your owns |
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mveron |
Hi #koha |
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Joubu |
gaetan_B: on the isbn, but not when importing records I think |
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Joubu |
hi mveron! |
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mveron |
hi Joubou |
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mveron |
Hmm, date ranges in statistics and reports do not work if the system preference dateformat is not set to yyyy-mm-dd |
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mveron |
Can anybody confirm? |
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marcelr |
hi mveron |
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marcelr |
just had a look again at the Dates stuff |
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mveron |
hi marcelr |
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Joubu |
marcelr: did you execute the atomicupdate for bug 14098? |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=14098 major, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Failed QA , Regression in Marc Modification Templates |
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marcelr |
Joubu: good question: I guess not/// |
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Joubu |
It works here, and it looks like the enum field does not contain the copy_and_replace_field action |
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marcelr |
probably thats it |
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marcelr |
will retry now |
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marcelr |
is annoyed by Plack::Middleware::ReverseProxy |
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marcelr |
i do not use Plack |
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marcelr |
yet |
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marcelr |
Joubu: yes that works better :) |
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Joubu |
yes, this module shouldn't be required |
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Joubu |
I will open a bug report for that |
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Joubu |
bug 14775 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=14775 normal, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Needs Signoff , Plack::Middleware::ReverseProxy should not be required |
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* Francesca |
waves |
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mtj |
oooh... handy? -> http://arachnoid.com/python/be[…]bash_program.html |
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mtj |
the author admits it might be a bit.. um, lossy |
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Joubu |
thanks marcelr! |
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cait |
got pulled into a meeting - are all the bugs signed off yet? |
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marcelr |
cait: you do the rest :) |
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Joubu |
just one or 2 left... |
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marcelr |
mveron: will try to come back today at 13813 |
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cait |
i kind of doubt waht you say... :) |
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mveron |
marcelr ++ |
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* mveron |
waves to cait :-) |
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cait |
hi mveron :) |
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mveron |
cait: It seems that date ranges are broken in reports / stats if dateformat syspref is something else than yyyy-mm-dd |
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* Francesca |
waves at everyone |
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cait |
mveron: hm strange, i thought at leats some worked |
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cait |
aaah sql reports? |
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cait |
or the other ones? |
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mveron |
Yes. |
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* cdickinson |
waves back at Francesca |
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cait |
which ones? |
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wahanui |
which ones are lighztning talks? |
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cait |
mveron: it was fixed for sql reports |
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cait |
recently |
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cait |
and broken recently |
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cait |
are you testing with latest master? |
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mveron |
Yes, latest master. |
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cait |
bug 14382 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=14382 major, P5 - low, ---, mtompset, Pushed to Stable , datepicker's dateFormat setting for reports is missing |
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cait |
that should have fixed it |
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cait |
for the sql reports |
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mveron |
OK, I will test again... |
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mtj |
hey Joubu, ping 10554? |
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cait |
coudl someone also test 14457? zeno failed it, but I think maybe not valid |
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cait |
it uses a plugin, so not sure it needs to actually change opac-search |
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Joubu |
mtj: pong |
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Joubu |
cait: back to NSO |
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mtj |
"With your patch and the pref set to "all", you get 2 buttons:" |
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mtj |
..is that a checkout for P1 or P2 user? |
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Joubu |
mtj: read non-blocked" |
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Joubu |
it was a checkout for P2 |
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cait |
Joubu: i see thx! |
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Joubu |
he try to check the item out, he got an error, and the UI suggests to check the item in, it does not make sense |
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Joubu |
tries* |
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mtj |
aah, ok.. hmm thats a bug sorry |
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cait |
bbiab |
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mtj |
Joubu, you ran koha-translate after applying the patch huh? |
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Joubu |
I always use the "en" interface |
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mtj |
yep, ok :) |
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mtj |
thanks for taking a look |
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cait_lunch |
marcelr++ |
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cait_lunch |
does someone know where we started with qa this morning? |
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Joubu |
~80 I think |
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cait_lunch |
hm says 6 passed - but some might have failed |
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cait_lunch |
http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]i-bin/progress.pl |
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cait_lunch |
12 passed qa... possible? |
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cait_lunch |
ah no... 6 passed ... 6 failed... hm should write down the numbers next time |
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Joubu |
cait_lunch: I have set some to discussion and does not apply |
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cait_lunch |
yeah makes sense |
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cait_lunch |
we will use 80 then |
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drojf |
hi #koha |
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magnuse |
moin drojf |
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drojf |
hei magnuse |
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drojf |
how is the gbsd going? |
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cait |
hi drojf :) |
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cait |
makign someprogress |
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cait |
http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]i-bin/progress.pl |
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cait |
you should grab a bug and join ;) |
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drojf |
i wanted to try the plack stuff. have to find out if i can access my package builder vps from here though |
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cait |
cool - if you do, put some notes somewhere :) |
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drojf |
ok that is not going to work, unless there is a master package that can be used. don't have the password for the vps here |
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cait |
reminder: khall is online now on zoom to answer questions! - and he is already busy, i just tried loggin in there |
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cait |
drojf: not sure, but there might be a package |
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* marcelr |
hopes for some attention to bug 14321 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=14321 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, m.de.rooy, Needs Signoff , Merge UploadedFile and UploadedFiles into Koha::Upload |
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cait |
tcohen was talkign to eythian about a package |
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magnuse |
yeah, i think tcohen said there was a master package with the new plack stuff in it? |
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drojf |
the last mail i read said its broken |
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drojf |
and i think that was yesterday |
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cait |
hm they fixed somethng- maybe try again? |
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magnuse |
eythian++ # plack-enabled packages ready! http://irc.koha-community.org/[…]5-09-02#i_1724209 |
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magnuse |
oops that should be, tcohen said "eythian++ # plack-enabled packages ready!" |
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drojf |
pidgin sucks |
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cait |
no it doesn't |
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drojf |
oh yes it does |
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cait |
nope |
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drojf |
you can have all of it ;) |
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drojf |
as soon as i have time to find something else that is |
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drojf |
thanks for the link magnuse |
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cait |
khall++ |
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magnuse |
khall++ |
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cait |
h |
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cait |
m |
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cait |
do we support IE for opac? |
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cait |
and ...which version if we do? |
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mveron |
Hi again #koha |
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cait |
GBSDKoha for GBSD tweets - new followers and retweets welcome :) |
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mveron |
marcelr ++ for QAing Bug 13813 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=13813 normal, P3, ---, veron, Passed QA , Remove deprecated module C4::Dates from system |
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marcelr |
:) |
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mveron |
I hope it is pushed soon - there is more to come to get rid of C4::Dates |
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cait |
mveron++ |
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marcelr |
mveron: ask tcohen to do so |
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mveron |
@seen tcohen |
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huginn |
mveron: tcohen was last seen in #koha 12 hours, 24 minutes, and 51 seconds ago: <tcohen> rangi: go bribe the other chris to accept my pull request heh |
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mveron |
hi tcohen :-) |
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tcohen |
hi mveron |
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mveron |
tcohen: Is it possible to push Bug 13813? - It will allow me to do more work for getting rid of C4::Dates |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=13813 normal, P3, ---, veron, Passed QA , Remove deprecated module C4::Dates from system |
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magnuse |
kia ora tcohen |
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tcohen |
mveron: would that help you fix more bugs during GBSD? |
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tcohen |
hi magnuse |
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tcohen |
magnuse: i've added a patch for koha-gitify (fr apache 2.4) |
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mveron |
tcohen: No. It's OK to have pushed it later, e.g. tomorrow |
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tcohen |
and i think i forgot to push the latest kohadevbox fixes to my branch |
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tcohen |
magnuse: if you want to try it, just vagrant up {trusty|wheezy|jessie} on my repo |
| 12:23 |
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tcohen |
i'm only missing the Listen: 8080 line |
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magnuse |
tcohen: no time to look now, i'm afraid |
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magnuse |
ncip! ncip! ncip! |
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cait |
tcohen: drojf said he woudl test plack :P |
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tcohen |
ashimema: RAML vs Swagger2? |
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ashimema |
I felt RAML was clearer and more extensible.. but Swagger has a bigger following andmroe software already supporting it.. |
| 12:35 |
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ashimema |
so Swagger seems to be the way to go.. unless someone wants to right a RAML parser ;) |
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ashimema |
s/right/write/ |
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ashimema |
s/for perl |
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tcohen |
ashimema: thanks, a friend asked me and i had no clue |
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tcohen |
Joubu: you want me to work more, right? :-P |
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magnuse |
druthb! |
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wahanui |
it has been said that druthb is an amazing person |
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nengard |
:) |
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ashimema |
tcohen, batman on the mojo channel is a good man to ask such questions of ;) |
| 12:41 |
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tcohen |
ok, thank you |
| 12:41 |
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ashimema |
he in fact runs a swagger channel too ;) |
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cait |
second person asking about how to sign off in kyle's screenshare session now! yay! |
| 12:42 |
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ashimema |
cait.. poke me if our sandboxes go down.. |
| 12:42 |
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marcelr |
Joubu: I would not object adding a followup on bug 14639 for the marc flavor |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=14639 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, tomascohen, Passed QA , Extend Koha::MetadataRecord to handle serialization format |
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druthb |
magnuse! |
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wahanui |
somebody said magnuse was afraid that we added another 10000 bugs while he was eating pizza. |
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marcelr |
pizza? |
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wahanui |
pizza is in the oven. |
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ashimema |
there's something horrible going on on that server.. it keeps falling over with OOM's.. |
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ashimema |
not got to the bottom of it yet |
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tcohen |
marcelr: I'm adding it right now |
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cait |
ashimema: so far things seem to work, but khall would know more |
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ashimema |
coolios |
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ashimema |
damn.. I've just hit a recursion problem in one of my migratino scripts.. I hate such problems. |
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Joubu |
marcelr: I think followups should be provided before the patches pass qa |
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marcelr |
exceptions make the rule, Joubu |
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marcelr |
no big deal in this case |
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tcohen |
Joubu: i left it as you see it because I wanted it to have the exact same behaviour it did |
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tcohen |
because it was being used only for authorities} |
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tcohen |
as you said, all params should really be mandatory |
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Joubu |
It's less error proof to use the pref instead of MARC21 |
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Joubu |
but really, if you like it like that, I don't care |
| 12:51 |
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tcohen |
Joubu: I'll provide a followup and tests for that, no worries... |
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marcelr |
suppose that we did not have the magic follow-up :) |
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drojf |
koha common unstable depends on libtest-cgi-multipart-perl which is not part of jessie |
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marcelr |
good morning too drojf |
| 12:54 |
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drojf |
hi marcelr |
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liw |
libtest-cgi-multipart-perl seems to be in Debian jessie, but not any other release |
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liw |
er, sorry, Debian wheezy is the Debian release with that package |
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drojf |
yes, that is what i found |
| 12:56 |
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liw |
("rmadison libtest-cgi-multipart-perl" is the command to check that easily, rmadison is in the devscripts package) |
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* ashimema |
is always amazed at how quick liw pipes up for deb dependency related stuff :) |
| 12:56 |
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magnuse |
liw++ |
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ashimema |
liw++ |
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tcohen |
liw: that shouldn't be a problem with squeeze EOL, right? |
| 12:56 |
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liw |
ashimema, only when I'm bored at work |
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drojf |
oh cool, good to know, thanks liw |
| 12:57 |
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drojf |
liw++ |
| 12:57 |
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ashimema |
however.. what is the solution to it is the next question.. we probably aught to try and remove our dependancy upon it? |
| 12:57 |
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liw |
tcohen, well, if Koha needs that, it's a problem for anyone not running wheezy (and wheezy is older than current Debian stable) |
| 12:57 |
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drojf |
not sure what we use it for, but either we switch to whatever does what it does in jessie or eythian should pack it for us |
| 12:57 |
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tcohen |
liw: you mean it is not on Jessie? |
| 12:58 |
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drojf |
tcohen: that is my problem |
| 12:58 |
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ashimema |
yup.. it's only in wheezy tcohen. |
| 12:58 |
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ashimema |
deprecated in jessie.. not idea of the reasoning around any of it |
| 12:59 |
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ashimema |
what are we using it for.. tests? |
| 12:59 |
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liw |
tcohen, yeah, it is in wheezy only, nothing older and nothing newer, including not in jessie or unstable |
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tcohen |
hmm, didn't notice when testing bug 6874 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6874 new feature, P3, ---, julian.maurice, Pushed to Master , Attach files to bibliographic records |
| 13:00 |
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tcohen |
jajm: is it possible to refactor the tests not to depend on that lib? |
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ashimema |
Test::CGI::Multipart |
| 13:01 |
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ashimema |
looks like that module hasn't been maintained since 2010 |
| 13:02 |
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drojf |
to be fair, development on that bug started 2011 ;) |
| 13:02 |
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ashimema |
lol |
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tcohen |
the module is not marked as mandatory |
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jajm |
tcohen, i have really no idea, i remember it was the only way i found at the time |
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* ashimema |
would love to be able to use carton with koha |
| 13:03 |
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drojf |
whats carton? |
| 13:04 |
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tcohen |
why can't we? |
| 13:04 |
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ashimema |
http://kappataumu.com/articles[…]for-web-apps.html |
| 13:04 |
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ashimema |
it's not really for a packaged app ;) |
| 13:04 |
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ashimema |
but it's not how I develop perl apps.. |
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cait |
khall++ teaching for a second time how to use the sandboxes today |
| 13:04 |
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ashimema |
plenv + carton (so I can pin both the perl version and all my cpan dependancies) |
| 13:05 |
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ashimema |
though the Carton guy is now working on Carmel.. which is apparently better but the differences are over my head ;) |
| 13:06 |
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marcelr |
Test::CGI::Multipart look at bug 14321 please |
| 13:06 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=14321 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, m.de.rooy, Needs Signoff , Merge UploadedFile and UploadedFiles into Koha::Upload |
| 13:06 |
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marcelr |
the test does not need that module anymore there |
| 13:07 |
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marcelr |
tcohen: see bug 14321 |
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tcohen |
marcelr++ |
| 13:08 |
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marcelr |
hope someone signs off on that one |
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* tcohen |
is happy we have plenty of time to have that pushed before the release :-D |
| 13:10 |
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drojf |
won't help me with testing plack though :P |
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cait |
marcelr: just lack of time |
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marcelr |
yeah |
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cait |
still wanted to say thank you there i guess |
| 13:15 |
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cait |
i'd really like that patch |
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cait |
so would at least one of our libraries - it's not lack of interest for sure |
| 13:16 |
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tcohen |
drojf: how is it related to plack? |
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drojf |
tcohen: i cannot install the master package, so i can't test |
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tcohen |
drojf: that's weird, the dependency is not marked as mandatory |
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drojf |
it exploded when i tried to install |
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drojf |
and i took the time to set up jessie to test. lol. cloning a wheezy vm now that i would have had availaible before |
| 13:18 |
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tcohen |
drojf: have you tried my kohadevbox? |
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tcohen |
it will take u 5 minutes to get it running with wheezy |
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drojf |
no |
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tcohen |
or jessie or trusty |
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drojf |
how do i use that? |
| 13:18 |
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tcohen |
get vagrant and ansible from their sites |
| 13:19 |
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drojf |
waaah learn new stuff i should have learned months ago |
| 13:19 |
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tcohen |
it will take you only a couple minutes :-D |
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drojf |
i have to upgrade, clone and clean the vm first. will tell you when i am ready |
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tcohen |
drojf: not for kohadevbox |
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tcohen |
it will create a clean vm with the requested OS |
| 13:20 |
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drojf |
on the other hand, i would not have found that bug with the missing dependency using that |
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tcohen |
you would |
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tcohen |
if you used it with 'jessie' as parameter :-D |
| 13:21 |
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tcohen |
i'm just saying you can have a clean wheeze env out of the box, in a couple minutes |
| 13:22 |
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drojf |
have to wait for the updates anyway now. imagine a very slow computer virtualizing another slow computer |
| 13:23 |
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tcohen |
Joubu: I've attached the followup you asked for |
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drojf |
tcohen: vagrant is in wheezy, will that work too? or is it too old? |
| 13:24 |
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tcohen |
i think it is old |
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Joubu |
thx |
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drojf |
1.0.3. ansible is 1.7.2 |
| 13:25 |
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tcohen |
yes, just get the latest |
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drojf |
ah yes its 1.7.4 |
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Brooke |
o/ |
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tcohen |
hi Brooke ! |
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* Brooke |
hugs Tcohen |
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Brooke |
it's GBSD, right? |
| 13:31 |
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tcohen |
it is! |
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Brooke |
hooray! |
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wahanui |
o/ '`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`' |
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* Brooke |
hands out cookies |
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nengard |
hiya Brooke |
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Brooke |
oh yea! |
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Brooke |
how's it going? |
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drojf |
the ansible ppa does not work for debian, so i'm going to use what is in wheezy and hope that works |
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tcohen |
drojf: it should do it |
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drojf |
tcohen: i installed vagrant and ansible, what now? |
| 13:35 |
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tcohen |
clone my github repo |
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tcohen |
:-D |
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tcohen |
i'm fixing a remaining issue |
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drojf |
it took more than five minutes already :P |
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tcohen |
you type too slow :-P |
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drojf |
where do i find your repo? |
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drojf |
lol |
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Brooke |
there are no users in the stale confirmation queue on the wiki :) |
| 13:37 |
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Brooke |
and just 3 awaiting stuff |
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drojf |
tcohen: https://github.com/tomascohen/koha ? |
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Brooke |
and David Nind has that handled. |
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tcohen |
https://github.com/tomascohen/kohadevbox |
| 13:37 |
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tcohen |
but |
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tcohen |
give me a second |
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druthb |
Brooke! |
| 13:37 |
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tcohen |
found a problem, minimal problem |
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Brooke |
RUTH! |
| 13:37 |
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drojf |
another second, see it adds up |
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drojf |
:P |
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* Brooke |
tackle hugs Ruth |
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* druthb |
gets tacklehugged |
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tcohen |
ok, now it is up to date |
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tcohen |
i'm still missing fixing the ports.conf file |
| 13:39 |
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tcohen |
have you cloned it? |
| 13:39 |
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Brooke |
k this will take like 10 seconds someone. I need a logical thinking living and breathing human to go take a look at the SQL reports fidgeting that I've done here and tell me whether it's worth it or more confusing |
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Brooke |
http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]SQL_Reports_Holds |
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Brooke |
original: http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]L_Reports_Library |
| 13:41 |
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tcohen |
drojf: r u there? |
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drojf |
tcohen: sorry took a bathroom break :D cloned it now |
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tcohen |
go into the cloned repo |
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tcohen |
and run |
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tcohen |
vagrant plugin install vagrant-cachier |
| 13:44 |
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drojf |
"this can take a few minutes" … more minutes :D |
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drojf |
done |
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tcohen |
does your virtualbox configuration have host-only network configured? |
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drojf |
yes |
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tcohen |
awesome |
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tcohen |
and you have nfs-kernel-server installed? |
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tcohen |
:-D |
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drojf |
i don't think on this box, let me check |
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tcohen |
this is just because i didn't bother to implement all the features from the original kohadevbox yet |
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drojf |
i have now ;) |
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tcohen |
i will, but i rushed |
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tcohen |
ok, do export SYNC_REPO=your_koha_clone_path |
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drojf |
ok |
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tcohen |
you can take a look at vars/defaults.yml |
| 13:48 |
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tcohen |
once it is polished you will uncomment and tweak vars/user.yml instead |
| 13:48 |
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tcohen |
but it should work |
| 13:48 |
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tcohen |
ready? |
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mveron |
Brooke:I'm not sure I understood your question - but yes, it makes sense for me to break down the SQL reports to several pages. |
| 13:48 |
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tcohen |
only the last 4 entries are really relevant |
| 13:49 |
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Brooke |
mveron TYVM :) |
| 13:49 |
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tcohen |
once you are done, run vagrant up wheezy |
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tcohen |
(or trusty or jessie) |
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Brooke |
I just didn't want to go and chunk out the whole thing only to have folks be all like "I liked it the olde way where no one could find a damn thing." |
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* mveron |
will have to look up TYVM in some dictionary... |
| 13:49 |
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Brooke |
thank you very much |
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Brooke |
merci beaucoup to you |
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mveron |
YAW (You are welcome) |
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mveron |
:-) |
| 13:50 |
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nlegrand |
Joubu: thanks for rebasing bug 14045 :) |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=14045 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Needs Signoff , Add specific quotas to on-site checkout |
| 13:51 |
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Brooke |
:D okay I have found mah activitay for GBSD |
| 13:51 |
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Brooke |
and I will send out a thingy on the listserv to poke Liberrians. |
| 13:51 |
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cait |
needs signoff went bakc up again... someone is cheating :) |
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Joubu |
nlegrand: de rien ;) |
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drojf |
tcohen: sorry get distracted all the time. can i just leave the dns setting as it is? (koha_domain) |
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tcohen |
we don't use it anyway |
| 13:52 |
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tcohen |
so no worries, drojf |
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tcohen |
you will access the interfaces based on the tcp port |
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drojf |
thats how i like it :D |
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drojf |
lets see what that does |
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tcohen |
drojf: enjoy looking at the terminal |
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tcohen |
Joubu: it is possible that there's no way I will write regrssion tests for CanBookBeIssued right now |
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tcohen |
have a meeting in 40 minutes, i can't make it |
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nlegrand |
cait: you mean on 14045? |
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tcohen |
drojf: ? |
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drojf |
tcohen: ==> wheezy: Waiting for machine to boot. This may take a few minutes... / wheezy: SSH address: 127.0.0.1:2222 / wheezy: Warning: Connection timeout. Retrying... |
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tcohen |
drojf: it does that a couple times, it is a vagrant thing |
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tcohen |
Joubu: what is CanBookBeIssued logging? |
| 14:03 |
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tcohen |
drojf: is it still stuck? |
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drojf |
did not work. but it is trying to ssh to 127.0.0.1:2222 shouldn't it be using something else? it brought another host-only adapter btw |
| 14:03 |
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marcelr |
Joubu: bug 14509: yes it is the refresh ;) just going too fast.. sorry |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=14509 major, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Failed QA , Koha still allows spaces at the end, beginning or as your password |
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tcohen |
drojf: the host only adapter is used for the NFS mount |
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marcelr |
Joubu: statut = 1 ? |
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Joubu |
hum? |
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marcelr |
it appears to be in the script already |
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marcelr |
seems like typo status |
| 14:05 |
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drojf |
tcohen: what ip is set on the vm? |
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Joubu |
marcelr: yes it is, but an old one :) |
| 14:06 |
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Joubu |
statut is status in French... |
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marcelr |
ok |
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tcohen |
drojf: is your machine capable of running 64bit machines? |
| 14:07 |
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drojf |
no this one is not |
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tcohen |
so it is not booting :-D |
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drojf |
excellent |
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tcohen |
look at the Vagrantfile (file) |
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tcohen |
notice debian/wheezy64 |
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drojf |
i am in there right now |
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tcohen |
try 32 :-D |
| 14:08 |
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drojf |
yup |
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drojf |
thanks |
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tcohen |
let's see how it goes |
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Joubu |
tcohen: it should log if the user is a X (statistic) |
| 14:08 |
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tcohen |
the jessie box is failing because of that dependency |
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drojf |
is that debian/wheezy then or debian/wheezy32? |
| 14:08 |
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Joubu |
it's for stats usage |
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tcohen |
drojf, i'm not sure |
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tcohen |
let me check |
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drojf |
how do i get rid of the 64bit machine in virtualbox? |
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tcohen |
it is not on virtualbox |
| 14:11 |
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tcohen |
it didn't boot, right? |
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drojf |
i see the 64bit in the virtualbox manager |
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drojf |
and i cannot delete it. and now it "starts" it when i try vagrant up |
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tcohen |
ah |
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tcohen |
run vagrant destroy wheezy |
| 14:12 |
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drojf |
ah cool |
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drojf |
:D |
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cait |
Just a reminder... it's GBSD! |
| 14:13 |
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tcohen |
drojf: you will be using vagrat {up|destroy|provision} a lot :-D |
| 14:13 |
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drojf |
neither wheezy not wheezy32 work |
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drojf |
https://atlas.hashicorp.com/debian/ there are only 64bit versions available |
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tcohen |
drojf: try puppetlabs/debian-7.8-32-nocm |
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tcohen |
it should be a wheezy base with some additions from the puppet people |
| 14:16 |
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Joubu |
khall: courses.enabled is a enum('yes', 'no'). Is there a valid reason for not using a boolean? |
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khall |
Joubu: not really. the 'yes' and 'no' mapped nicely to 'yes' and 'no' for the checkbox value from CGI. I used an enum so it wouldn't take up alot of space. |
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drojf |
tcohen: ok that is doing something |
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khall |
a two value enum is basically a bool |
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Joubu |
just weird when you look at the code: "If course.enabled" should be enough |
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Joubu |
anyway |
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khall |
Joubu: in retrospect, I agree with you. I would endorse a patch that changes that behavior |
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drojf |
tcohen: explodes when trying to get the apache 2.4 backports |
| 14:27 |
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tcohen |
oh, so that's 64bit only+} |
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drojf |
indeed https://www.d7031.de/debian/di[…]xperimental/main/ |
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tcohen |
drojf: I'm really sorry |
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tcohen |
i didn't think of the 32bit scenario. For other uses just comment the lines that add the 2.4 repo |
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drojf |
no worries. it was good finally have a look at vagrant anyway |
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tcohen |
and you will still have a really good dev environment |
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tcohen |
i mean, those backports are only needed to run the plack integration |
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tcohen |
for any other use.. |
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drojf |
believe me, it took quite some time until i thought of the no-64bit-problem when i started using this machine |
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drojf |
i hope to get the ok for a new one soon |
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tcohen |
drojf: you can still test ubuntu/trusty32 i you want to |
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tcohen |
and comment the relevant lines in roles/kohadevbox/tasks/main.yml if you need wheezy for other stuff |
| 14:38 |
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drojf |
tcohen: i think i will have a look at bug 14321 to get rid of the dependency |
| 14:38 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=14321 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, m.de.rooy, Needs Signoff , Merge UploadedFile and UploadedFiles into Koha::Upload |
| 14:38 |
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tcohen |
drojf: awesome :-D |
| 14:38 |
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drojf |
or go to bed and get ill, feel a little like it |
| 14:39 |
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drojf |
@wunder berlin, germany |
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huginn |
drojf: The current temperature in Berlin Tegel, Germany is 19.0°C (4:20 PM CEST on September 03, 2015). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 64%. Dew Point: 12.0°C. Pressure: 29.92 in 1013 hPa (Steady). |
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tcohen |
drojf: get better soon! |
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drojf |
marcelr: should i get all patches on 14321 together or test them one by one? |
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Joubu |
I'd say all together |
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drojf |
tcohen: i still hope i'm just very tired, but i don't really have a reason for that. will drink a lot of tea when i am home and see what happens |
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drojf |
thanks Joubu |
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* Joubu |
send some grog to drojf |
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drojf |
tcohen: the computer at home is capable of 64bit virtualisation though, i could start again :D |
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tcohen |
great! |
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drojf |
:P |
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tcohen |
how much time do i have? |
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tcohen |
i might actually fix a couple issues in time :-D |
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drojf |
thanks Joubu grog would be awesome :) |
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drojf |
tcohen: at least an hour or two |
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tcohen |
drojf: great |
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khall |
zeno++ for adding patch complexities to bugs |
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marcelr |
drojf: you can apply them all and test |
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marcelr |
zeno++ |
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drojf |
he seems to be the person with the least known irc nickname :D |
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marcelr |
wrong name? |
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drojf |
i think its tajoli |
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drojf |
@seen tajoli |
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huginn |
drojf: tajoli was last seen in #koha 1 week, 0 days, 23 hours, 47 minutes, and 35 seconds ago: <tajoli> I see only Olli's work are many new files |
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drojf |
yup |
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ashimema |
yup |
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schnydszch |
hi! I'm working on signoff of bug 11298 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=11298 normal, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Needs Signoff , Renewal due date won't take specified time into account |
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cait |
schnydszch++ :) |
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schnydszch |
yes cait, it seemed I'm still getting 23:59 |
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cait |
schnydszch: are you using the date field at the bottom of the checkouts table? |
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schnydszch |
yes I used the date picker plugin |
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cait |
and changed the time? |
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cait |
hi Michael_ |
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Michael_ |
hi cait - I'm a first timer |
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cait |
welcome :) |
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cait |
schnydszch: sounds like it might not work then :( |
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schnydszch |
and there's also a bug with American dates |
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* ashimema |
should probably stick around and say hello to people.. but he's got to go cook dinner for the family instead.. |
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schnydszch |
the datetime format |
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ashimema |
ping me if ptfs sandboxes go down ;) |
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mveron |
hi Michael_ :-) |
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Michael_ |
hi mveron :-) |
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schnydszch |
cait, yes changed the time |
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schnydszch |
to 9:)) |
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schnydszch |
9:00 |
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schnydszch |
cait, it seems in might not work |
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Michael_ |
mveron: Since I'm here for the first time: What am I expected to do? What can I expect to happen? |
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ashimema |
general koha related chitter chatter ;) |
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drojf |
marcelr: i got an error with the atomic update ERROR 1060 (42S21) at line 1: Duplicate column name 'public' |
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ashimema |
questions being asked and answered |
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mveron |
Michael_:You can ask questions |
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ashimema |
Michael_: welcome to #koha |
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mveron |
...or discuss things with other people... |
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ashimema |
a fair chunk of 'dev talk' goes on in here too.. :) |
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Michael_ |
mveron: OK, I got a lot of em... just don't know where to begin |
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mveron |
Just ask... |
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ashimema |
at the beggining ;0 |
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mveron |
If sombody knows an answer you will get it... |
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mveron |
Or you can find out about the weather at your place. e.g. |
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mveron |
@wunder Allschwil |
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huginn |
mveron: The current temperature in Basel, Switzerland is 21.0°C (5:00 PM CEST on September 03, 2015). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 43%. Dew Point: 8.0°C. Pressure: 29.95 in 1014 hPa (Steady). |
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mveron |
Michael_:Sometimes the logs are useful as well, e.g. : http://irc.koha-community.org/koha/2015-09-03 |
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Michael_ |
I just migrated som data to Koha 3.20.03 - at the end I found out MARC 942 $c (e. g. 1) had one-fdigit numbers in it while 052 $y had two digit numbers in it (e. g. 01). I thought it would be a good thing if I could just update the digits by SQL but I couldn't find a way. Is there a way that takes care of all tables (items, biblioitems, biblio) and the respective BLOBs? I mean, actually i run my original migration script |
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Joubu |
schnydszch: I confirm it works here, just tried right now. |
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Joubu |
schnydszch: Could you detail what does not work? How are you testing? |
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marcelr |
drojf: duplicate column error -- did you run the dbrev again or so? |
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cait |
Michael_: today is pretty busy here |
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cait |
how many records do you have? |
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cait |
and yes, your 942 shoudl match 952$y and also the itemtypes you have configured - they are also case sensitive |
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Michael_ |
cait: 89'025 records in biblio |
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schnydszch |
Joubu: i specified due date using the date picker |
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cait |
i think export fix and reimport with a matching rule on biblionumber |
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cait |
i haven't tried the record batch edit tool yet - but 90.000 could be a bit much for one edit |
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Michael_ |
cait: Yes they shoudl match - of course it was a mistake in my migration script. But I would have liked to correct it via SQL... |
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Joubu |
"Renewal due date" at the bottom of the table, you have change the Hour and Minute values? |
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Joubu |
d |
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schnydszch |
yes, I changed that |
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cait |
Michael_: it's really not easy, because besides the xml there is also a format for magnetic tapes stored... so you might create some mismatch |
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schnydszch |
wait |
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cait |
items data can be updated with sql |
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cait |
but bibliographic is harder |
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Joubu |
you have seen "your date with your format and not 23:59", save |
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Joubu |
and then you have seen a "date with 23:59" in the Due date column of the checkouts table? |
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Michael_ |
cait: yes yes, I know... I even learned there is some BLOB areas that I kept away from for now... so maybe my approach wasn't absolutely wrong. |
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cait |
hm maybe check if the patch was correctly applied to the sandbox? (joubu, schnydszch |
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Joubu |
cait: that's what the next question :) |
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Joubu |
erk |
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Joubu |
that is * |
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Michael_ |
Another question: Recently I tried to print some labels with barcode type COOP2of5 resp. Industrial2of5 - but even if they are available in the label creator I couldn't get any output with them (while Code 39 worked without a problem). Is this a known problem or might I have missed something? |
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reiveune |
bye |
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Michael_ |
However, as said I then used Code 39 - but the output is just the barcode with the number it bases on printed below. What the library really wants is first line the name of the library, only then the barcode and finally third line the number. Is this possible with the Koha label creator or will I have to use som external program like glabels for this? |
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cait |
I think you can print additional text on the labels |
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cait |
have you taken a look at the online help for this page? |
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cait |
we are not using the label module, but i think you can put something like "library" in the field name list |
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schnydszch |
need to go home. I'll check again once I got home, Joubu, cait, I'll give feedback |
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Michael_ |
cait: I was able to put the library name in the label, together with other info - but not together with the real barcode |
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Michael_ |
cait: Seems like I will make further experiments with an external tool like glabels which actually seems able to do it. But of course I would have preferred to stay within Koha for all label creation. |
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cait |
Michael_: the real barcode? |
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Michael_ |
cait: Yes, I mean there is the barcode number wich is represented by the real barcode (the thing with bars that are not human readable :-) |
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cait |
barcode type? |
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cait |
sorry, long day - do you mean the real barcode type (2of5 instead of Code39)? |
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Michael_ |
The real barcode can have different forms like Code 39, Industrial20f5 etc |
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Michael_ |
bI called the actual representation of a certain number the "real barcode" - so the barcode number is 5, but the real barcode looks something like ||||||| - the scanner will read the real barcode and translate it back to the barcode number |
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barton |
is there a way to force search to interpret a string as CCL? This works, but returns nothing: acqdate,st-date=<2010-04-09 ... whereas this fails: acqdate,st-date-normalized=<2010-04-09 => No results match your search for 'kw,wrdl: acqdate,st-date-normalized<2010-04-09'. |
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Michael_ |
I guess that's the problem with the label creating since for usual number the Koha label creator uses one font but it needs an entirely different font for the real barcode and I guess it's not possible to mix two fonts on one label...? |
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cait |
Michael_: i know what a barcode is ;) |
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cait |
koha can print barcodes and also the number below in a different script |
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cait |
i mean... a barcode and the barcode number. |
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cait |
btw all.... one more bug to go to get below 200! |
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Michael_ |
cait: I'm sure you know :-) It's just I sometimes don't know the proper words in English |
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Michael_ |
So I try to explain... |
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Michael_ |
I have seen together with the barcode always comes the number, but I haven't seen a way how to change the font of this numbers and so I think the numbers are part of the actual barcode font |
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cait |
hm idon't know about that,but you could try the mailing list |
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cait |
someone using the module might know |
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drojf |
marcelr: i'm done with the first patch and it all seems to work, but my folder is empty and mysql says the directory is koha_upload, not what i put into koha-conf.xml. am i missing something? |
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drojf |
(and i cant find the files anywhere) |
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Michael_ |
Well, some months ago a guy called Allen asked the same thing about the barcode type 2of5 - there was never an answer... it just seems to be no problem for anyone else... I already tried a lot so I think I will try the external program glabels which Vimal Kumar has described in http://kohageek.blogspot.ch/20[…]elabel-using.html |
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marcelr |
you need to have an entry in the config file |
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drojf |
i have |
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marcelr |
upload_path |
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drojf |
<upload_path>/my/path</upload_path> |
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marcelr |
you can add categories via the UPLOAD auth value |
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marcelr |
this path exists? |
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drojf |
yes |
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drojf |
well not that one |
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drojf |
:D |
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drojf |
but the one i put there |
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marcelr |
ok |
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marcelr |
is there a koha_upload subfolder? |
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drojf |
in that path? no. does it have to be? |
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marcelr |
does your koha instance user have permissions to write there? |
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marcelr |
no it should be created if the perms are ok |
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drojf |
ah permissions could be a problem, thanks |
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tcohen |
drojf |
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marcelr |
and check your systems tempdir if files went there |
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tcohen |
i've just uploaded a couple more commits to kohadevbox |
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tcohen |
that will make it run smoothly :-D |
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tcohen |
will update the README now |
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marcelr |
drojf: also add some categories in auth values with UPLOAD key; should become subfolders in your upload dir |
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Michael_ |
OK, as I see questions can indeed be asked but they tend to go under... what other possibilities are there to get an answer? What should I do before filing a bug? |
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drojf |
marcelr: should the UPLOAD category be there by default? because it's not |
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mveron |
Michael_:I'm testing to get an answer for you. But that takes some time... |
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marcelr |
drojf: no it is not needed per se; note the difference between permanent and temporary storage |
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marcelr |
the first patch iirc deals with temporary only |
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marcelr |
you should find those files in your tempdir and then koha_Upload sub |
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marcelr |
so /tmp/koha_upload or similar |
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marcelr |
if you upload permanently with tools/upload in the later patches, you need a category |
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drojf |
AH! yes |
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tcohen |
drojf: kohadevbox is ready to use now, one-command up and running :-D |
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marcelr |
the current implementation for the plugin falls back to cataloguing |
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tcohen |
i'm only missing a patch against koha-gitify so it points the shell scripts to those on the debia nrepo |
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drojf |
tcohen: thanks, will try later |
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Michael_ |
mveron: What exactly are you testing? I have tested quite some stuff already. It seems both barcode types 2of5 are indeed available in the label creator but it is not functional. |
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marcelr |
but i think i did not copy that fallback in the new code when there is no category |
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Michael_ |
mveron: I'm always talking of Koha 3.20.03 |
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mveron |
Michal_:I'm on current master 3.21.00.022 |
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mveron |
Michael_:I'm on current master 3.21.00.022 |
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drojf |
marcelr: it said "[2] Check new entry in table uploaded_files. Look for the file in the directory defined by upload_path in koha-conf.xml." so i did ;) |
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marcelr |
is that the first commit message? |
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Michael_ |
mveron: The day will come that I'll also install something else than the stable version... getting into git etc... |
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drojf |
marcelr: test plan of the first patch |
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drojf |
so yes |
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mveron |
Michael_:That is great! |
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marcelr |
drojf: you are right; stage-marc-import is temporary storage so the comit message is wrong |
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marcelr |
file should be in /tmp |
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marcelr |
only permanent files go to the upload_path |
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drojf |
and there it is. so the patch is ok |
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marcelr |
this patch got amended a lot of times.,. |
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marcelr |
but the message did not..? |
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drojf |
apparently |
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wahanui |
apparently is, like, vitally important to librarians |
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marcelr |
drojf: the only thing we perhaps miss in this patch set is the warning for no categories when trying to store permanently.. |
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marcelr |
should be a small thing |
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marcelr |
like the hidden input cataloguing in the plugin template now |
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drojf |
for the second patch, i changed the owner and got "upload status: failed". it would maybe make sense to include why it failed? |
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Joubu |
lari: around? |
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Joubu |
see you tomorrow #koha! |
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cait |
bye Joubu! |
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mveron |
Michael_:Can you file a bug regarding the 2of5 barcode? |
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Michael_ |
mveron: Did you experience the same problem? If yes then I will definitely file a bug. |
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drojf |
marcelr: i'm at patch 4. "Go to Cataloguing editor. Connect upload.pl to field 856$u. In an empty 856$u, click the tag editor. Upload a file and click Choose." but there is no "choose". i get "Sorry, your request had no results." (which i get every time i use upload.pl, but the files get uploaded) and "new search" or "close". but no "choose" |
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mveron |
Michael_:Yes. |
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drojf |
if i choose "close", the 856 field stays empty |
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Michael_ |
mveron: It's my first bug - since the 2of5 code is avalable but isn't functional ata ll - would you call this critical / major / normal? |
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marcelr |
drojf: first add some categories in the UPLOAD key of auth values |
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drojf |
i did. well, i added one |
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marcelr |
than you can add permanent files and than you will have results in the public section of the table |
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drojf |
i have |
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mveron |
Michael_:http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]orting_Guidelines |
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mveron |
I would say it is a normal one. |
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drojf |
but linking it to a record does not work for me |
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marcelr |
did you also select a category when uploading |
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drojf |
yes |
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marcelr |
and you go via the plugin button? |
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drojf |
yes |
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marcelr |
can you check in your table if you see records with public=1 |
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drojf |
i do |
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marcelr |
can you search for them in the plugin? |
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drojf |
no |
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marcelr |
if you clear the 856u field, you should be able to search |
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drojf |
i see the search |
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drojf |
but it does not work |
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marcelr |
type a filename you see in the table with public=1 |
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drojf |
neither filename nor hash work |
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marcelr |
it just says: no results? |
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drojf |
Upload Sorry, your request had no results. |
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marcelr |
are all patches applied or only until this one? |
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drojf |
and then new search or close as buttons |
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drojf |
all |
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marcelr |
strange |
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drojf |
when i tested the patches before, i always got that message in upload.pl |
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drojf |
the uploads worked though |
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marcelr |
are they in your upload_path now? |
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marcelr |
within some category subfolder |
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drojf |
even with the one where you upload a duplicate file, i got the message about the duplicate file and the "Sorry, your request had no results." |
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drojf |
yes they aree |
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drojf |
are |
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marcelr |
so not in /tmp |
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marcelr |
ok |
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drojf |
nope |
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marcelr |
well i have tested this over and over, but saw results |
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drojf |
and owned by the koha user |
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Michael_ |
mveron: Done, see http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=14781 |
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huginn |
Bug 14781: normal, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , Creation of barcode types 2of5 not functional |
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marcelr |
i will have another look at this, but do not have time for it now anymore |
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marcelr |
maybe wait for that |
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marcelr |
thx for coming this far though.. |
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drojf |
ok. let me know what you find and i will continue |
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marcelr |
from this point i cannot really figure out your problem |
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marcelr |
i will |
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marcelr |
thx |
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marcelr |
have to go; bye all |
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mveron |
Michael_:Thanks. I changed the modul to Label/patron card printing and teh version o master (since it is valid there as well) |
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* mveron |
Has to run... |
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mveron |
Good daytime, #koha |
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drojf |
time to head home then too |
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drojf |
later #koha |
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cait |
hm i am surprised the order page works ( |
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cait |
lots and lots of doubled up ids |
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cait |
and jquery doesn't liek that if you try to select something |
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Michael_ |
Another question: In the Koha 3.20.03 OPAC a title is searched and found. When changing from Normal view to MARC view some item information can be seen. Unfortuately the order of this information is different with every search: Sometimes it starts with item type, call number, barcode another time with home branch or something else. It will even change during the same search when going back to Normal view and then returni |
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Michael_ |
order appears. Dies anyone know how to prevent this beahvior? |
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schnydszch |
cait |
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schnydszch |
Joubu? |
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wahanui |
i think Joubu is not sure how to fix that correctly |
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schnydszch |
regarding bug 11298 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=11298 normal, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Needs Signoff , Renewal due date won't take specified time into account |
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schnydszch |
i'm trying to sign it off and testing in sandbox |
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schnydszch |
when i try to check out the material, i'm getting this: No branchcode argument passed to Koha::Calendar->new at /home/koha/src/C4/Circulation.pm line 3422 |
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schnydszch |
I guess, it has something to do with Circ rules? i duno |
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schnydszch |
I guess I got the error in some of the materials but with one material I was able to check it out |
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schnydszch |
But it is not about the bug so it's disregarded |
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magnuse |
woohoo - nso below 200! |
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cait |
woohoo :) |
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schnydszch |
cait, I stand corrected in earlier post |
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schnydszch |
I'm getting the desired output in renewal, I thought it was in checkout. But when I reread the test plan, it was in the renewal. So signoff for bug 11298 :) |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=11298 normal, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Needs Signoff , Renewal due date won't take specified time into account |
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cait |
up on 200 agan |
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cait |
ah no - page refresh :) |
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cait |
schnydszch: awesome - one more sign-off! |
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schnydszch |
:) |
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magnuse |
schnydszch++ |
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Michael__ |
Hm... I seem to be in this chat twice ( Michael_ and Michael__ ) but I cannot login anymore under my original nick ( Michael_ ) - does anyone know why? |
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xarragon |
Database design question: When having to store a set of html fragments for a page, what would you do? use one row for each fragment or single row with the fragments packed into JSON structure? |
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magnuse |
xarragon: why store them in the database? are they editable? |
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xarragon |
magnuse: Yes. Could be written to a file after each edit though. |
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magnuse |
one row for each fragment sounds less error prone to me |
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xarragon |
Yeah that is the current solution. And no overhead from JSON deserialization for each page view. |
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xarragon |
I don't really like to have another layer of structure on top of the database. Sort of defeats the purpose of using a database in the first place if you need a whole heap of data massaging functions on top of the dbix::class stuff. |
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xarragon |
But sometimes it is the more pragmatic solution. So I was just asking a bit for how you do things in this project. |
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tcohen |
'bye |
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magnuse |
have fun tcohen |
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magnuse |
xarragon: good plan :-) |
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magnuse |
xarragon: if there is a set number of fragments, perhaps they could be sysprefs? |
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khall |
looking for feedback on bug 14783 if anyone is interested |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=14783 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , Allow patrons to change pickup location for non-waiting holds |
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* cait |
waves |
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cait |
... still GBSD for a few hours :) |
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* magnuse |
feels a sudden urge to disturb pianohacker... |
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pianohacker_DND |
magnuse/cait: I'm available for bugs :) going to get stuff out for bug 14510 and bug 11559 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=14510 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jweaver, Failed QA , Allow column visibility in additem.pl to be customized |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=11559 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jweaver, In Discussion , Professional cataloger's interface |
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* magnuse |
cheers pianohacker on |
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tcohen |
hi |
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magnuse |
hi again tcohen |
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magnuse |
hiya irma |
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tcohen |
hi irma! |
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tcohen |
should we ship koha-gitify with koha? |
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magnuse |
tcohen: i would say yes |
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tcohen |
magnuse: so far, kohadevbox is great to devel/test Koha functionalities on a packages environment |
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tcohen |
it would be awesome now to be able to test packages-related stuff too! |
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tcohen |
so the koha-* scripts are linked to the git clone too |
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magnuse |
coolio |
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magnuse |
hiya irma |
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Kchris |
In the kohana conference resources, there were some virtualboxes, including a ubuntu 14.04 koha. When I run the virtualbox, I am prompted for a koha login. How do I get the login and password? It looks like I need to get the password from the koha-conf.xml file, but I don't know where to look for this in Virtualbox |
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tcohen |
Kchris: /etc/koha/sites/kohadev/koha-conf.xml |
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tcohen |
(maybe?) |
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Kchris |
tcohen: I realize that's the folder location. I guess I just don't see how in virtualbox I can get to a shell where I can open that file. I am new to Virtualboxes. |
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tcohen |
so you are presented a Ubuntu Unity environment? |
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tcohen |
I usually hit Ctrl+Alt+t |
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tcohen |
to get a terminal |
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andreashm |
hi all |
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* cait |
waves |
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* andreashm |
waves back |
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Kchris |
Not sure what the Ubuntu Unity environment looks like. Ctrl+T resets the machine, but returns a koha login prompt. |
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andreashm |
any super-easy bugs left for the taking? (I would asume not, by now) |
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pianohacker_DND |
andreashm: bug 11559? |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=11559 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jweaver, In Discussion , Professional cataloger's interface |
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cait |
heh |
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cait |
andreashm: let me take a look |
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cait |
how are you testing? |
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cait |
gitinstallatoin? |
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andreashm |
pianohacker: ouch |
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pianohacker_DND |
:) |
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andreashm |
ah, having trouble getting my kohadevbox to start anyways. nevermind.... |
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cait |
maybe 14562? |
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cait |
bug 14562 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=14562 normal, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Needs Signoff , Patron with empty card number will be only result returned by patron datatables search |
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pianohacker_DND |
ah, yeah, that'd be excellent! |
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cait |
bug 14562 |
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cait |
bug 11298 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=11298 normal, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Needs Signoff , Renewal due date won't take specified time into account |
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Michael__ |
Does anyone know how to split a callnumber like "Eyk GOT" using the label creator so it will appear with "Eyk" on the first line and "GOT" on the second line? |
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pianohacker_DND |
cait (or anyone else): since rancor can't add/edit items using 952 tags, what do you think is the best way to deal with that? Simply prevent the saving of records with 952 tags? |
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pianohacker_DND |
(using the framework, not hardcoding 952 of course) |
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cait |
;) |
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cait |
can you show an error? |
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cait |
like... items can currently not be added 992 will be removed or so? |
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cait |
952 |
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pianohacker_DND |
I'd say so. A big popup, or just an error next to the tags (like the non-repeatable/mandatory subfield errors)? |
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cait |
hm not sure how the error next to would look like |
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magnuse |
running ut of steam - have fun #koha! |
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pianohacker_DND |
cait: try going to the sandbox and saving without doing anything |
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cait |
running out of steam a bit too - let me have a cup of tea first |
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pianohacker_DND |
or you could drink a steaming cup of rancor! :D |
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cait |
no? |
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wahanui |
http://media.moddb.com/images/[…]33/collapsing.gif |
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wnickc |
pianohacker_DND: Making any change to record (had to add 003) but not touching items still zapped all items on save |
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pianohacker_DND |
well _that's_ bad |
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pianohacker_DND |
and confusing :/ |
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wnickc |
hmm...happens when I import using te search |
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wnickc |
If I go through catalog search and edit an existing record it doesn't load the tiems |
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wnickc |
and doesn't zap on save |
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pianohacker_DND |
wnickc: oh, so if you search local catalog? |
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rangi |
morning |
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pianohacker_DND |
(from within rancor?) |
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wnickc |
exactly |
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pianohacker_DND |
ahhhhh |
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pianohacker_DND |
well don't do that, jeez! :) |
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rangi |
tsk tsk |
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rangi |
only to 199, .. cmon you northern hemispherers |
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rangi |
:) |
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pianohacker_DND |
rangi: there's a very interesting patch from Joubu related to yesterday's discussion on http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=14778 |
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huginn |
Bug 14778: normal, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, In Discussion , Get rid of DBIx::Connector |
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rangi |
ahh cool |
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rangi |
ill take a look when i get a chance |
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pianohacker_DND |
rangi: the one thing I'm not certain about is what it does RE: pinging/reconnecting |
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rangi |
*nod* |
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pianohacker_DND |
also, y'know, hi, good morning and stuff |
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rangi |
I think because its based on DBIx::Class |
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rangi |
it handles that for us |
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* rangi |
wanders down through the layer of modules |
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rangi |
so we use Koha::Database which is based on Koha::Schema which is based on DBIx::Class::Schema |
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cait |
why not? :P |
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cait |
oh... scrolling broken again |
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cait |
ignore that |
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cait |
that was a comment for some way above the last lines... |
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rangi |
which is based on DBIx::Class |
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cait |
gbsd? |
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wahanui |
somebody said gbsd was http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]bug_squashing_day |
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rangi |
which uses DBIx::Class:Storage |
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cait |
hm still 12 hours of gbsd! |
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cait |
ending in honolulu |
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pianohacker_DND |
do we have anyone west of PST? |
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rangi |
yeah, ill have to try to track down exactly waht it is doing some other time |
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rangi |
but a client ,and i think cdickinson both bumped into the loosing a db connection yesterday |
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rangi |
so its on my priority list |
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cdickinson |
rangi: once I make sure the configuration is fine, if there is still a problem, I'll make sure to come to you |
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rangi |
cool |
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pianohacker_DND |
wnickc: still around? |
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wnickc |
mostly |
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wnickc |
what you need pianohacker_DND? |
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pianohacker_DND |
wnickc: I saw your comment about overwrite mode |
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wnickc |
ah, yes |
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pianohacker_DND |
that's a valid problem, I've run into that exact thing while testing |
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wnickc |
and it's a super easy fix? |
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pianohacker_DND |
wnickc: well, I was about to say that I had no idea how to fix it |
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wnickc |
hah |
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pianohacker_DND |
but I think I could fix it by only switching to overwrite mode when you first move into the tag number/indicator section |
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pianohacker_DND |
is that reasonable? And do you like, in general, the automatic overwrite mode? |
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wnickc |
Like is hard to say, could adapt to yes, but doesn't feel intuitive |
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wnickc |
Once I played enough I just learned how I was uspposed to use it |
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wnickc |
And then it works well |
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pianohacker_DND |
hm, okay. |
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wnickc |
sorry |
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pianohacker_DND |
setting down the line, maybe? |
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pianohacker_DND |
I know every cataloger has a different workflow |
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wnickc |
yeah |
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wnickc |
it's definitely workable, and I don't think it's bad, just wasn't my instinct |
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wnickc |
change is scary |
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wahanui |
wnickc: that doesn't look right |
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wnickc |
wahanui: phblt! |
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wahanui |
wnickc: what? |
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pianohacker_DND |
silly bot |
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pianohacker_DND |
wnickc: what do you use for most of your day-to-day cataloging? |
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wnickc |
also, incredible work overall, rancor makes me happy |
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wnickc |
copy cataloging and minor edits I use Koha |
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wnickc |
big jobs I pull into marcedit and push into koha |
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pianohacker_DND |
wnickc: glad to hear! :) |
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wnickc |
that integration changed my life |
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pianohacker_DND |
there's definitely a marcedit camp and connexion camp that are pulling rancor in slightly different directions |
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wnickc |
that make |
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wnickc |
s sense |
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wnickc |
that's why I hesitate on my comments about how it should work |
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pianohacker_DND |
wnickc: Well, that certainly hasn't stopped anyone else ;) |
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pianohacker_DND |
and I do value input, I'm a programmer with reasonable familiarity with cataloging but I'm not a cataloger by any means |
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wnickc |
I am a acataloger by trade, but I only follow the rules I like. I will blatantly disregard standards in favor of patron readability |
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pianohacker_DND |
for instance, one change that I'm thinking of making down the line is getting rid of the whole $a<space> system for subfield delimiters and just using the double cross thing with alt-d as a shortcut |
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wnickc |
I like that |
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pianohacker_DND |
it removes a lot of problems |
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wnickc |
And i do think any of my comments past the item zapping shouldn't be blockers, it's going to take a lot of users and a lot of feedback |
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wnickc |
getting it in will only make it better |
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pianohacker_DND |
absolutely, yeah. But I do need to fix the items bug |
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pianohacker_DND |
Glad I caught you, I had no idea why that was happening |
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cait |
yep |
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cait |
fix the item zapping |
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cait |
not destroying any data is absolutely a must :) |
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rangi |
198 |
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cait |
thx rangi :) |
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cait |
owrking on qa'ing one now |
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pianohacker_DND |
wnickc: oh, and two other things: a) fun fact, letters are valid in tag numbers (which terrifies me, don't worry) and b) does shift-enter seem like a reasonable way saying "don't create a new field, just put in a newline"? |
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jcamins |
pianohacker_DND: anyone who puts in a new line should be ashamed of themselves. |
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jcamins |
FYI |
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* cait |
agrees |
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* jcamins |
gives pianohacker_DND the librarian glare. |
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cait |
no new lines |
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wnickc |
a)I mean, I guess there are only so many three digit numbers |
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cait |
999? :) |
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jcamins |
cait: 1000, actually. Don't forget 000 |
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cait |
yep true :) |
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cait |
i noticed after i typed it... and hoped noone else would |
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pianohacker_DND |
jcamins/cait: Enter in Rancor is mapped to "create empty field on next line", so Shift-Enter is useful as a way of undoing an accidental Delete :) |
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pianohacker_DND |
besides, a marc record is really just text, right? |
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pianohacker_DND |
shouldn't it be hard wrapped? |
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wnickc |
b) that seems feasible |
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* wnickc |
had to remember what he had complained about |
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wnickc |
I would also support not being able to pull up the next line with a delete |
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jcamins |
pianohacker_DND: an accidental delete? |
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jcamins |
Do you mean if you accidentally remove the newline between two fields? |
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pianohacker_DND |
jcamins: yes |
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pianohacker_DND |
(the hard wrapping thing was an attempt at a joke) |
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jcamins |
Shouldn't enter work in that case without needing a special shift-enter? |
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wnickc |
jcamins:enter creates a new field currently, wherever the cursor is located |
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jcamins |
wnickc: oh, I get it. It doesn't create a new field at the cursor, it just creates a new field. That makes sense, then. |
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pianohacker_DND |
jcamins: yeah |
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jcamins |
But my rule stands: ABSOLUTELY NO HARD NEW LINES IN FIELD DATA. |
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pianohacker_DND |
jcamins: my poor joke aside, is that actually a thing that happens? |
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pianohacker_DND |
it's theoretically impossible in rancor, the two parts of the tag would be on separate lines and therefore would be separate tags |
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jcamins |
pianohacker_DND: yes, but only in poorly implemented horrors. |
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pianohacker_DND |
*shiver* |
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gmcharlt |
... which have not all been expelled from the word yet |
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pianohacker_DND |
I have no idea how I would handle that. {newline}? |
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jcamins |
pianohacker_DND: how about not allowing it? |
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pianohacker_DND |
jcamins: you can't enter it, certainly |
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pianohacker_DND |
I mean, that would be insane |
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pianohacker_DND |
but what about displaying existing records that contain them? |
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pianohacker_DND |
is "rancor is broken because you're bad and should feel bad" a reasonable response? |
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jcamins |
How about you just dispatch a commando team to take away the cataloger's MARC license? |
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pianohacker |
assuming it's their fault |
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wizzyrea |
those people should use the existing interface. |
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jcamins |
pianohacker: that's why your commando team needs a psychiatrist. Just in case it isn't their fault. |
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pianohacker |
that deserves a @quote . |
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cait |
heh |
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cait |
morning kathryn :) |
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rangi |
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xo6bXM5IJSs |
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kathryn |
evening cait :) |
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rangi |
it's the 90s cos we got the bugs into the 190s |
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cait |
if this is a time machine i want to go to the 80ies next |
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pianohacker |
way back to the 80s? |
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pianohacker |
That was so long ago, though! |
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cait |
becasue... bug numbers ... moving them down |
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cait |
i wouldn't mind the 20ies either |
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pianohacker |
wnickc: are the items actually deleted from the record, or do they just disappear from the screen? |
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pianohacker |
the latter would make sense |
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rangi |
cait: can you recognise all the songs? |
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wnickc |
deleted as far as I know, if you go to record view they are not there |
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wnickc |
pianohacker:^^ (details view) |
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pianohacker |
hrm. Okay. |
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bag |
0 isn’t a number |
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rangi |
bag: my brother in law has got us tickets to see the pirates on the 28th |
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bag |
excellent man!!! should be good time too - pirates are in a divison race maybe they’ll still be close at that time |
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bag |
they are running away with the wildcard |
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rangi |
cool |
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bag |
best stadium in the us btw |
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rangi |
yeah thats waht ive heard |
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bag |
always rated the highest |
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wizzyrea |
@quote add jcamins: How about you just dispatch a commando team to take away the cataloger's MARC license? Pianohacker assuming it's their fault. jcamins: that's why your commando team needs a psychiatrist. Just in case it isn't their fault. |
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huginn |
wizzyrea: The operation succeeded. Quote #317 added. |
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wizzyrea |
hm. |
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wizzyrea |
@quote delete 317 |
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huginn |
wizzyrea: I'll give you the answer just as soon as RDA is ready |
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wizzyrea |
@quote remove 317 |
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huginn |
wizzyrea: The operation succeeded. |
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wizzyrea |
@quote add jcamins: How about you just dispatch a commando team to take away the cataloger's MARC license? Pianohacker: assuming it's their fault. jcamins: that's why your commando team needs a psychiatrist. Just in case it isn't their fault. |
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huginn |
wizzyrea: The operation succeeded. Quote #318 added. |
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wizzyrea |
there we go. |
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jcamins |
:) |
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wnickc |
one sign off, just as toddler bnursts in |
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wizzyrea |
I hate it when toddlers bnurst in. |
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rangi |
bag: the only thing im not looking forward to is iron city lager |
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wnickc |
heh |
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pianohacker |
wizzyrea: but wait, there's 1 space after the first sentence and 2 spaces after the second! :) |
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wizzyrea |
hrmph., |
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wizzyrea |
tis very quiet |
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dcook |
hola hombres |
