IRC log for #koha, 2015-09-02

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00:00 cait wizzyrea++
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00:05 Francesca this cuts it very fine for testing everything together
00:06 Francesca I have to do mobile css as well remember?
00:06 Francesca that was todays job
00:06 Francesca oh wait
00:06 Francesca hold on
00:06 Francesca didn't mean to put that in here
00:06 Francesca whoops
00:07 cdickinson wrong window
00:07 Francesca sorry
00:07 * Francesca facepalms
00:07 cdickinson but gotcha
00:07 Francesca cdickinson: pay attention that was directed at you
00:08 cdickinson yes, ma'am
00:26 Francesca very bipolar weather we are having today
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01:38 mtj woah, bug 14435 is a weird one
01:38 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=14435 normal, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Signed Off , The table saved_reports is never populated
01:44 mtj looks like the 'saved_reports' feature was disabled, in 2009-03-31
01:45 mtj 14be4400 (Joe Atzberger 2009-03-31 15:08:10 -0500 300)
01:46 mtj, it got broken waay back then huh?
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01:58 wizzyrea yeah woulda been like 3.2 or something
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02:12 Francesca[…]g-into-hyperspace ---> cdickinson reckons this would revolutionise beer o'clock
02:14 wizzyrea it has that word in it.
02:14 ibeardslee probably not a Catalyst Beer O'Clock
02:15 cdickinson hyperspace?
02:15 wizzyrea we do have those teleconference things that connect chch, wlg, and au offices
02:16 Francesca cool
02:16 cdickinson if this actually happens
02:17 cdickinson then we might actually have something we imagined would happen by now
02:17 cdickinson stupid flying cars
02:17 Francesca virtual beer anyone?
02:17 cdickinson it would somehow not be the same
02:17 Francesca wahanui: virtual botsnack beer
02:17 wahanui thanks Francesca :)
02:18 wizzyrea[…]yalty-free-video/ now this, I think I can get behind
02:18 * Francesca nods in agreement
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02:40 * Francesca is going to explode if javascript doesn't start working
02:40 wizzyrea what does your console tell you?
02:40 Francesca there is data there
02:40 Francesca and it works
02:40 wahanui But now the Universe has disappeared
02:41 wizzyrea ok, that was apt.
02:41 Francesca actually it kinda works
02:41 Francesca I was going to say that the variable I am trying to show won't show
02:41 Francesca wahanui botnsack cookie
02:41 wahanui Francesca: what?
02:41 Francesca botsnack cookie
02:41 cdickinson need more context
02:41 Francesca wahanui botsnack cookie
02:41 wahanui thanks Francesca :)
02:42 Francesca wizzyrea: using this <script>
02:42 Francesca var data = sessionStorage.getItem('email');
02:42 Francesca console.log('data = ' + data);
02:42 Francesca $("#insertemail").html("<input>" + data + "</input>");
02:42 Francesca </script>
02:42 wizzyrea
02:42 Francesca to try and get something to show up in an input field
02:42 Francesca oh sorry
02:42 wizzyrea sok
02:42 wizzyrea what are you trying to do?
02:43 cdickinson basically, we're trying to set the value for an HTML form
02:43 cdickinson form input thing
02:43 cdickinson using JavaScript
02:43 Francesca yeah
02:43 Francesca someone fills out a form
02:43 Francesca it redirects them to a confirm page where their info is displayed inside a readonly form
02:44 wizzyrea is this on the readonly form that you're trying to display this?
02:44 Francesca yip
02:44 Francesca might have a fix
02:44 Francesca hold on
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02:47 eythian you are replacing the entire <input> field, which may not be what you want to do.
02:48 cdickinson yeah, we're trying to just replace the value in the input instead this time
02:48 eythian You are also putting unescaped user-supplied content into an unsafe environment, which makes me a little uncomfortable.
02:48 wahanui okay, eythian.
02:48 eythian wahanui: hush
02:48 wahanui eythian: excuse me?
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05:40 * magnuse waves
05:42 magnuse no, you're not gonna find /wp-login.php on my koha server
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06:16 magnuse kia ora cait
06:17 cait mornign magnuse
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06:31 reiveune hello
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07:00 alex_a bonjour
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07:04 fridolin hie
07:16 cdickinson @wunder nzwn
07:16 huginn cdickinson: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 13.0°C (7:00 PM NZST on September 02, 2015). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 82%. Dew Point: 10.0°C. Pressure: 29.44 in 997 hPa (Rising).
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07:19 cait good morning #koha
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07:19 putti Hi!
07:23 cdickinson eythian, are you around?
07:23 cdickinson wait, nevermind
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07:28 magnuse @wunder boo
07:28 huginn magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 9.0°C (9:20 AM CEST on September 02, 2015). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 82%. Dew Point: 6.0°C. Pressure: 30.09 in 1019 hPa (Steady).
07:29 magnuse @wunder marseille
07:29 huginn magnuse: The current temperature in Marseille / Marignane, France is 20.0°C (9:00 AM CEST on September 02, 2015). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 62%. Dew Point: 14.0°C. Pressure: 29.96 in 1014 hPa (Rising).
07:29 putti magnuse, hej
07:30 Francesca @wunder wlg
07:30 huginn Francesca: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 13.0°C (7:00 PM NZST on September 02, 2015). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 82%. Dew Point: 10.0°C. Pressure: 29.44 in 997 hPa (Rising).
07:30 magnuse hej putti
07:31 paul_p @wunder Marseille
07:31 huginn paul_p: The current temperature in Marseille / Marignane, France is 20.0°C (9:00 AM CEST on September 02, 2015). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 62%. Dew Point: 14.0°C. Pressure: 29.96 in 1014 hPa (Rising).
07:32 Joubu hi
07:36 magnuse ncip! ncip! ncip!
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07:43 gaetan_B hello
07:43 wahanui bonjour, gaetan_B
07:43 magnuse bonjour gaetan_B cait
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08:22 nlegrand hey #koha
08:27 cait hi nlegrand :)
08:30 nlegrand hey cait ^^ long time no see
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08:33 cait true :)
08:37 cait khall_away: ping?
08:37 wahanui Using deft allegory, the authors have provided an insightful and intuitive explanation of one of Unix's most venerable networking utilities.[…]oks/dp/0448421658
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08:54 nlegrand People worked a lot while I was away :)
08:59 cait yeah, crazy busy everywhere i think :)
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09:38 putti cait, that ghost hunting comment, made my day ;D
09:42 cait oh good - i was worried :)
10:10 magnuse ghostbusters!
10:10 magnuse nah ncip! ncip! ncip!
10:24 cait now i have the ghostbusters song in my ears...
10:25 magnuse cait: just be happy you do not have the ncip song in your ears
10:25 cait there is a song?
10:29 magnuse cait: some kind of black metal, probably
10:30 magnuse oh, someone should do a whole album, with songs like MARC, Z39.50, NCIP, SIP2, AACRII etc
10:30 cait lol
10:30 magnuse when i get rich i'll pay a black metal band to do that
10:31 magnuse and hand them out as goodies at conferences
10:31 mtj
10:31 mtj heya magnuse, cait
10:31 cait hi mtj
10:32 cait you are really a night owl :)
10:32 mtj ^ MARC theme song... amirite? :0)
10:33 magnuse mtj: yeah, that just about covers all of "library tech", i'd say
10:33 cait all... but koha... right? right?
10:34 magnuse of course!
10:34 magnuse but all the s**t koha has to deal with is pretty fu**ed
10:38 mtj LOLMARC?
10:38 wahanui
10:39 mtj ..a new standard, invented by librarian cats
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10:43 magnuse yeah, koha should definitely support LOLMARC!
10:48 nlegrand magnuse: that's the more black metallish stuff I can find refering to libraries
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10:50 mtj hmm, magnuse ->
10:55 magnuse nlegrand, mtj: lulz
11:08 mtj cait: i have been doing a bit of late nite upgrade/migration stuff recently
11:09 mtj .. so yeah, a bit night-owly over here.. :)
11:10 mtj things are pretty busy for everyone, i think
11:10 cait Joubu++
11:27 cait yeah it seems so!
11:41 Joubu putti: Did you see my note on bug 13775?
11:41 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=13775 critical, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , software error when choosing authority via plugin
11:41 putti Joubu, I guess not
11:42 putti Joubu, someone needs to do there a fix now...
11:43 Joubu putti: what is 148?
11:44 putti Joubu, not sure, need to check from the documentation
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11:48 cait hm should be the main heading for a chronological subject
11:48 putti Joubu, it is a time expressing term
11:49 cait in the authority
11:49 tcohen morning
11:50 tcohen eythian++ # plack-enabled packages ready!
11:51 Joubu cait: the script supposes it's mandatory
11:51 cait yeah
11:51 cait it is
11:51 cait every authority needs a main heading
11:51 cait morning tcohen :)
11:51 lari Is there some nice way to resend failed messages in message_queue? I can't think of anything else than resetting their status to 'pending'
11:52 cait lari: that will work
11:53 cait lari: but no way from the gui currently - i have a bug report somewhere in bugzilla proposing to have a resend link on the notices table...
11:53 cait because i think that woud be neat :)
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11:55 Joubu and very easy to implement
12:01 magnuse bug 12426
12:01 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=12426 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , Allow resending of emails from the notices tab in the patron account
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12:04 magnuse hiya matts and sophie_m
12:04 matts hi magnuse !
12:08 tcohen hi magnuse Joubu
12:09 Joubu tcohen: o/
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12:42 Joubu ashimema: around?
12:43 Joubu Does someone use the NewItemsDefaultLocation pref?
12:43 Joubu (No I don't want to drop it)
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12:49 putti Joubu, bug 12525.. Is the latest comment just me..
12:49 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=12525 major, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Needs Signoff , Patron Lists aren't added to list pulldown when created from Patron search
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13:05 * fridolin is on holiday tomorow for 10 days
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13:07 cait enjoy fridolin :)
13:09 fridolin I've juste send to mailling the news that I end the 3.14.x maintainance
13:10 fridolin since 3.22 is comming, I'd like to candidate as RM for this version
13:10 fridolin Release Maintainer I mean
13:10 fridolin tcohen: ^
13:10 tcohen fridolin++
13:11 tcohen volunteers++
13:12 nengard :)
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13:29 talljoy cronjob question - Who is familiar with the subject/author clouds cron (  Is this for anysite or Unimarc sites only?
13:31 nengard Hi all oh - talljoy asked :) hehe
13:31 nengard I have to admit this cron is new to me so once we have an answer i'll update the manual
13:34 nengard tcohen cait any ideas?
13:35 tcohen talljoy, nengard: I think it will run for any flavour, but some labels were in french
13:35 talljoy oui!
13:35 talljoy luckily this site is just wanting to try it out.  so we can try and see!!
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13:36 pastebot "tcohen" at pasted "Joubu: look" (70 lines) at
13:36 tcohen Joubu: i rewrote your tests like that
13:36 tcohen and it fails for UNIMARC
13:38 cait talljoy: we tried it ages ago for subjects... seemed to kinda wrk
13:38 cait but probably could use some tweaking :)
13:39 talljoy thanks cait!  this site has 'lean' data as well.  so i question its usefulness at all here!
13:39 cait maybe try with something like author fields?
13:39 talljoy if you only have two terms in your cloud, that's not much of cloud.  heh
13:40 nengard true
13:41 Joubu tcohen: bug#?
13:41 tcohen 11247
13:41 tcohen the problem with my revamp of the tests was that I forgot to build a valid UNIMARC record :-D
13:42 tcohen but I think that bug needs to test UNIMARC too, let me attach a followup for you to take a look
13:45 fridolin see u
13:45 alex_a Joubu: a bug with 21 patches is a tiny change ... :p
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13:48 tcohen Joubu: I'm sorry, meeting
13:48 Joubu alex_a: it's trivial :)
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13:48 tcohen could you please take a look at bug 11247 and make sure the tests are not db dependent (t::lib::Mocks::mock_preference('marcflavour', $marc_flavour);) and that they cover at least UNIMARC too?
13:48 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=11247 minor, P5 - low, ---, srdjan, Passed QA , Fix calls of TransformHtmlToXml
13:49 Joubu tcohen: it's not my tests :)
13:50 tcohen oh, i'm really sorry!
13:50 Joubu I will have a look
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13:58 tcohen the error we show when the DB is down is terrible, I hope we push the exception handling patches soon and handle this things more gracefuly
13:59 pastebot "Joubu" at pasted "tcohen: this one passes" (80 lines) at
14:00 tcohen ok, thanks
14:00 tcohen will you post a followup?
14:05 Joubu tcohen: yep
14:05 tcohen Joubu++
14:07 Joubu tcohen: done
14:08 tcohen :-D
14:17 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 14584: Encoding broken with system preferences <[…]c3dde38f19844b962> / Bug 14696: useless use of String::Random in catalogue/ <[…]10a64c252a180fdf6> / Bug 14709: Do not access to C4::Context->userenv from the commandline <http://git.koha-communi
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15:21 reiveune bye
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16:10 drojf evening
16:25 gaetan_B bye
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16:34 Joubu bye #koha
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17:54 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 13972: Follow-up - Add unit tests for changed parts of SendAlerts <[…]758a49a8b567c40a9> / Bug 13972: Include fields from subscription and serial table in serial notification... <[…]9a6fd280e8ce430b5> / Bug 12965: Prevent to erase an existing item type <h
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19:32 indradg kia ora! #koha
19:33 cait khall_away++
19:33 cait khall++
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20:05 cait 3.8.24 is fairly recent...
20:05 cait ok?
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20:24 rangi cait: i laughed at that too
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21:25 cait eythian: ?
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21:27 rangi hmm
21:27 rangi cait: he wont be here for another hour or so
21:27 cait oh getting late then
21:27 rangi what do people think about bug 14375
21:27 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=14375 critical, P5 - low, ---, fridolin.somers, Needs Signoff , DBIx::Connector should be stored in C4::Context instead of dbh
21:27 cait could someoen nudge him to add the elasticsearch demo to the gbsd page?
21:28 rangi do a later
21:28 cait tried that yesterday
21:28 cait didn't work :)
21:28 rangi he always says hi, so he will see it
21:28 cait @later tell eythian gbsd is now... add elastic search to wiki! (plz!)
21:28 huginn cait: The operation succeeded.
21:28 rangi he might ignore it, i cant stop that ;)
21:28 cait well you have way more options than me to make him
21:28 cait being in the same room...
21:29 tcohen rangi: about bug 14375, i belive ribasushi mentioned that we shuoldn't be using DBIx::Connector at all
21:30 rangi that was my understanding
21:31 pianohacker tcohen: ... out of curiosity. Why not?
21:31 rangi even if it was what we should using, it hasnt had a 1.x release yet .. im always a bit wary of alpha/beta code
21:31 rangi specially if it underpins everything we do :)
21:32 pianohacker we have a bizarre spurious SIP 'MySQL server has gone away' error that may be related to that module
21:32 tcohen pianohacker: it seems that DBIx::Connector implements a subset of DBIx's own connexion handling code
21:32 pianohacker *reimplements?
21:32 rangi pianohacker: highly likely
21:32 rangi pianohacker: we've noticed that too, from servers running the code with connector in it
21:32 pianohacker well isn't that interesting
21:32 tcohen i think ribasushi said the code was *extracted from FBIx* actually
21:33 pianohacker oh, joy.
21:33 rangi right, definitely not gonna bother testing this
21:33 tcohen rangi:  i think the way we use it breaks some situations, and the patch is worth a try and eventually push
21:34 rangi but rip dbix::connector out and put in a proper not dangerous dbi connector
21:34 rangi ?
21:35 tcohen i don't think it is dangerous heh, I think we should reuse DBIx's instead of passing the dbh from Context to DBIx
21:35 rangi i do
21:35 rangi we've had maria db block connections from a koha
21:35 rangi because of those weird dropping out
21:36 rangi it was all, you are connecting too much, you're blocked
21:36 tcohen hm, but we introduced DBIx::Conector to fix that!
21:36 rangi that kinda sucked in production
21:36 rangi yeah, im not sold on using pre stable release code in production
21:36 rangi not for a db handler
21:36 * tcohen nods
21:37 pianohacker rangi: have you had any other issues running Maria w/ Koha?
21:37 rangi nope
21:37 pianohacker we'll have to give it a shot, then
21:37 rangi i think everything in production is running MariaDB now
21:37 tcohen rangi: btw, I'm deleting the ubuntu12.04+Maria node, will try to have Debian8+Maria instead
21:38 pianohacker any notable improvements in performance/reliability?
21:38 rangi was just this spurious losing connection that seems to have come in with dbix::connector
21:38 rangi but im not 100% sure on that, it only does it on newer koha
21:38 rangi so thats why i suspect it
21:38 rangi pianohacker: not that ive noticed
21:39 pianohacker just freedom from the mysql mess, kk
21:39 rangi and changelogs
21:39 rangi and release notes
21:39 wahanui release notes are in misc/release_notes
21:39 rangi like when theres a security release, they actually tell you what they fixed ;)
21:39 rangi which is handy
21:40 rangi ok there are 2 sec bugs, ill work on testing signing off those instead, someone with more brains can figure out the dbh patch ;)
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21:47 tcohen i need testers for kohadevbox
21:47 pianohacker rangi: that's excellent. larryb is curious if you had to do anything but a drop-in replacement
21:48 rangi from our end nada, but the sysadmins look after the db servers, afaik they just switched to mariadb at some point
21:48 pianohacker kk
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21:51 rangi from our end, we didn't even notice
21:57 rangi ok we started the day (its gbsd in nz already) with 221 bugs needing sign off
21:57 rangi 219 now
21:59 tcohen bye...
22:00 cait woohoo :)
22:00 cait keep going plz - i need to get some sleep first :(
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22:17 wizzyrea what is the best way to add a bunch of orders quickly
22:25 eythian hi
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22:28 eythian @later tell cait done
22:28 huginn eythian: The operation succeeded.
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23:07 eythian <-- this looks like a good book.
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23:18 tcohen @seen cjh
23:18 huginn tcohen: cjh was last seen in #koha 36 weeks, 5 days, 22 hours, 32 minutes, and 17 seconds ago: <cjh> hahha
23:19 tcohen is anyone in contact with chris hall?
23:19 rangi he sits down stairs
23:19 rangi what do you need?
23:20 pianohacker eythian: excellent book
23:20 eythian pianohacker: yeah, it's in my queue for when I finish Seveneves, which given the density of that may be some time this decade, if I'm lucky.
23:21 pianohacker how is that so far? I'm a stephenson fan, but haven't gotten to that one yet
23:21 * wizzyrea suspects plack related things
23:21 pianohacker and honestly, The Martian is short and funny enough that it might be a good break :)
23:22 tcohen rangi: a minor tweak to koha-gitify, so it configures correctly for Apache 2.4
23:23 pianohacker does anyone know if there's a standard way to grey-out/disable a row in a fieldset.rows in the staff client?
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23:31 wizzyrea trying to think if there are other places in Koha we do that
23:32 wizzyrea I'm not sure we have any
23:32 wizzyrea what's the use case?
23:33 eythian pianohacker: liking it so far. I'm only about 150 pages out of 800 or so in though, and it still feels like the introduction before the real stuff happens.
23:33 pianohacker eythian: sounds like Neal Stephenson :)
23:34 wizzyrea ^
23:34 pianohacker wizzyrea:[…]_bug.cgi?id=13757 and a screenshot I'm about to post
23:34 huginn Bug 13757: enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jweaver, ASSIGNED , Make patron attributes editable in the opac if set to be visible
23:34 eythian pianohacker: very much so :)
23:35 pianohacker wizzyrea:
23:36 wizzyrea oh
23:36 wizzyrea we do that in some places... trying to think
23:36 pianohacker wizzyrea: I decided to add aria-disabled="true" to the li and add css that sets such fieldset.row li's to #999
23:36 pianohacker I thought the same, but couldn't find anything in staff-global.css :)
23:37 Francesca hi pianohacker!
23:37 pianohacker hola Francesca
23:37 wizzyrea yeah, that's as good as anything I reckon... i still feel like we do that somewhere...
23:37 Francesca good cas you need to work on the presentation
23:38 Francesca and I don't want to be working until we present
23:38 Francesca argh
23:38 Francesca wrong window
23:38 Francesca again
23:38 pianohacker hi Francesca
23:38 Francesca hey
23:38 Francesca whatsup
23:40 Francesca @wunder wl
23:40 huginn Francesca: Error: No such location could be found.
23:40 Francesca @wunder wlg
23:40 huginn Francesca: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 11.0°C (11:30 AM NZST on September 03, 2015). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 76%. Dew Point: 7.0°C. Pressure: 29.62 in 1003 hPa (Rising).
23:40 pianohacker wizzyrea: Ah! The tags review, maybe?
23:42 wizzyrea I'd have to add some tags lol
23:42 pianohacker same, trying to test
23:42 pianohacker lines 102/103 and 111/112 of koha-tmpl/intranet-tmpl/prog/e​n/modules/tags/review.ttimply that it does it, but w
23:43 pianohacker *with custom CSS, which is ugly :/
23:49 wizzyrea I'd say, pick a good way, and then we can use yours :)
23:50 pianohacker fantashtic :)
23:51 pianohacker thanks wiz
23:52 tcohen rangi: go bribe the other chris to accept my pull request heh
23:57 pianohacker good night
23:57 wahanui I'll be waiting for you to come back, pianohacker.

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